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is 82 years old. the first female faa inspector and the first female investigator for the national transportation and safety board, well, she will be the oldest person to have flown in space when all is said and done. no word from bazos yet about branson's news but this is all very cool. ac 360 begins now. the man once described as the most senior member of the trump organization not named trump is now facing criminal charges. so the company. and the question is where does that leave the man whose name is on the door? john berman here in for anderson. few people have worked longer or more closely with donald trump than chief financial officer allen weisselberg. he was charged today in manhattan along with the company and trump payroll corporation in a 15 count indictment alleging tax fraud, conspiracy, falsifying business records and scheming to defraud the state of
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new york. this is a big deal even if you agree with his lawyers that this shouldn't be a criminal matter. it's a big deal even if you agree with the former president who called the case, quote, the political witch hunt by the radical left democrats with new york now taking over the assignment. why is this a big deal? simple, the investigation is not over. the pressure just grew enormously today on allen weisselberg, and no one disputes how closely connected he has been to the man whose books he has kept for decades. >> every single thing whether it was the acquisition of paper clips, light bulbs, furniture, mattresses, you name it allen weisselberg's kids payments, rents, everything would have a donald signature on it or his initial. >> in a moment we'll dig deeper into where all this could be going. first the facts of the case from cnn's paula reave. >> reporter: the namesake company of former president trump now charged with tax crimes along with one of its top
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executives. allen weisselberg, the chief financial officer for the trump organization led into court in handcuffs. to the judge prosecutors described a 15-year tax scheme charging weisselberg, trump payroll corporation, and the trump organization. 15 counts against the cfo and 10 against the former president's namesake company. prosecutors allege weisselberg evaded taxes on $1.7 million in compensation. all three defendants pleaded not guilty. weisselberg's attorney announcing in a statement he will fight the charges. his indictment and charges against the trump organization come after more than 2-year probe by the manhattan d.a. cy vance. an investigation that ultimately led to uba taining trump's tax records in a court battle. free apartments, cars and even school tuition, benefits that would amount to tens of
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thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars and were allegedly not properly reported for tax purposes. allen, how are you feeling? the trump organization fired back today claiming prosecutors are using weisselberg, quote, as a pawn in a scorched earth attempt to harm the president. saying in a statement, the district attorney is bringing a criminal prosecution involving employee benefits that neither the irs nor any district attorney would ever think of bringing. this is not justice. this is politics. lawyers for the trump organization spoke after court. >> if the name of the company was something else i don't think these charges would have been brought. >> and cnn's paula reed joins us now from the courthouse. paula, i understand there's some new reporting on the unindictmented coconspirator number one listed in the indictment who many thought for a moment could be the former president, but what are you learning? >> that's right. a lot of people thought it could
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be the former president, bebut if you look closely at the charges it was clear this person could be someone really involved in the financial side of things, someone who helped weisselberg conseal the financial compensation and avoid taxes. cnn has learned the unindicted coconspirator is the long time trump controller jeff mccony. >> thank you for clearing that up. paula reid, stick around. i want to bring in bloomberg opinion senior columnist tim o'brien. he's faced off against the former president in court against the factuallity of his reporting and tim won the case. also bring in jeffrey toobin. this indictment, how big of a deal is this? >> it's certainly a very big deal for allen weisselberg. the evidence outlined in the indictment, and we'll see if the government can prove it, looks really devastating. maybe you can argue that a company car and a company
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apartment were legitimately paid for by the trump organization, but how in the world is he going to explain why the trump organization paid for the private school tuition of his grandchildren and he didn't pay taxes on that money? that's a very devastating fact. plus a spreadsheet is described in the indictment where basically his compensation is listed, and the money paid to him is reduced by each payment that was made for the car, for the apartment, for the private school. suggesting that everyone involved knew that this was compensation that he should have been paying taxes on. now, it is less clear what donald trump's involvement of all of this is. and i think it's important to point out that, you know, he is not mentioned in the indictment. he is obviously the big boss as michael cohen pointed out in that piece. but actual evidence against donald trump in the indictment is basically nonexistent.
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>> well, first, let's get smoking spreadsheet into the vernacular if we can. second to the point of how closely the former president might be tied to this, tim, i want to ask you about that. because you have this piece in bloomberg today really interesting and references the 2005 deposition stemming from an unsuccessful libel suit the president filed against you. what did trump say under oath about how closely he worked with weisselberg on the company finances? >> that they worked hand in glove, john. and that it wasn't trump merely signing off on documents that weisselberg prepared for him without any input from trump. these were documents they presented to banks and other entities they were seeking loans from that purported or presented an accurate snapshot of the company's valuations and finances. we deposed trump for two days in 2007, eight hours a day.
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it is 16 hours of sworn testimony, and it's very clear in that testimony that he and allen worked very, very closely and tightly with a lot of communication and joint coordination around those documents. and that's always been the case with the trump organization. no significant financial decision is made without trump signing off on it. i think the evdenchiary hurdle prosecutors have is proving anything illegal trump knew of it and intending to break the law when it occurred. that's the hurdle vance's prosecutors have to overcome. one little thing i would mention off jeff said no evidence of trump in the indictment, there is a line in there that trump signed or it was setup so that trump would sign some of the checks that were used to compensate weisselberg off the books. but i also don't think this document overall is there to bring donald trump down.
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this document i think is more sweeping than people anticipated it to be. and it's a pretty heavy blow landing on weisselberg's shoulders. he's going to face possibly at the most a 15-year reprison senseitance. i doubt it will go that far but he's a 74-year-old man. a two-year prison sentence is going to scare him. i think that at the end of the day is the function of this indictment. it's to encourage allen weisselberg to flip. i think the other thing in the indictment it references other individuals in the trump organization who had knowledge of these events. i think that that also indicates there might be other shoes to drop among witnesses. >> paula, what's your reporting on whether or not allen weisselberg might flip or cooperate with this investigation? >> well, we know from our sources weisselberg's team has made it clear to prosecutors he did not intend to cooperate, he would not flip. but today's case was much more substantial than we expected.
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based on these allegations it is likely weisselberg would face prison time. and even though he said he wouldn't cooperate, a little time in handcuffs this morning looking at the weight of this evidence could be quite sobering. also important to note that the charges allege these benefits were extended not just to mr. weisselberg but also to other members of his family. while many people note his loyalty to the former president and certainly he'd want to protect him, he may want to protect his family even more. so at this point only he knows if he's sort of experiencing a change of heart at this point. but this is all by design. prosecutors have been pressuring him, and these charges certainly increase that pressure. >> berman, this is also an appropriate time to point out that and as we all know donald trump does not use e-mail. he does not send texts. anything about his involvement in these schemes will have to come from the testimony of others. and it is a questionable thing whether you could build an actual believable criminal case
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on the words of michael cohen who is, you know, convicted of lying. allen weisselberg, who's fighting for his life. weisselberg's estranged daughter-in-law. in the absence of text and e-mails, it's going to be very tough to make a case against donald trump. >> you know, tim, very quickly. cooperate to what end, though? weisselberg could give them what, bring what additional charges? we keep hearing the investigation is not over. into what? >> well, i think the meat of this is possible, very robust bank fraud if they get it. more robust tax fraud if they get it. i think money laundering is in play, falseication of business records, and allen weisselberg is an eyewitness to trump's thinking and behavior on this. but as jeff points out, that only goes so far. the e-mail thing is an interesting issue because while trump didn't personally use e-mail, he directed his administrative assistant to send
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e-mails on his behalf. and she would also say in those e-mails mr. trump has directed me to do x, y, and z. if prosecutors have gotten their hands on her hard drives, they're going to have more evidence in print of trump's thinking at different points in time. with the tax returns they would have gotten the work product. there would be evidence in the work product of directives they received from trump and weisselberg to handle the tax returns in a certain way. but they do need more than just people like michael cohn and allen weisselberg to make their case. >> thank you all very much. just ahead, more on the man at the center of the 15-count indictment and his deep ties to the family, chief financial officer allen weisselberg. and later the latest from surfside, florida. why search and rescue efforts were temporarily paused, and what president biden told the families' missing loved ones. advil targets pain. acetaminophen blocks it.
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indictment against the former president's namesake company. also a man who may be a mystery to some. so just who is allen weisselberg. simply calling the trump organization chief financial officer doesn't really convey how close weisselberg is to the family and how far back those ties go. randy kaye has the details on the man who may know all. >> replacing george this week is my chief financial officer, allen weisselberg. and you think george is tough wait until you see allen. >> reporter: donald trump's long time chief financial officer, alweisselberg, enjoying his 15 minutes of fame on "the apprentice" years ago. but these days in real life weisselberg would much rather avoid the spotlight. >> can you say how many times have you met with investigators? >> absolutely, it's still ongoing. >> reporter: jennifer weisselberg is allen weisselberg's ex-daughter-in-law. >> there's a forensic accountant that was originally appointed by the state and is now working with my new criminal attorney to
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dive deep into the tax returns, statements of net worth, bank accounts, credit cards. >> reporter: she and weisselberg's son barry divorced in 2018. with trump and his company, the trump organization, now indicted and others under investigation for possible tax fraud, insurance fraud, grand larceny and other alleged schemes to defraud, jennifer weisselberg is a go-to witness from investigators because of her knowledge of her former father-in-law allen weisselberg and his role in the trump organization. she says conversations with investigators have focused on the compensation and gifts received from the trump organization. doesn't it surprise you that investigators are zeroing in on allen weisselberg? >> absolutely not. he is the money person. >> reporter: weisselberg has been the company's money man for more than two decades. he first started working with the trump family in the 1970s when trump's father, fred trump, was in charge.
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these days he's not just the cfo of the trump organization he also handles the trump family's personal expenses. he knows things. and manhattan district attorney cy vance and new york's attorney general want details. there are hush money payments which were allegedly used to silence women who came forward in 2016 alleging they had affairs with donald trump, affairs the former president denies. michael cohen, trump's former fixer and attorney, says he secretly recorded a conversation with trump talking about payments to one of the women. the recordings were released in 2018 and on them cohen mentions allen weisselberg, which would mean weisselberg was in the know about the shell company allegedly setup to make the payment. >> i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with funding. >> reporter: cohen has said both trump and weisselberg had knowledge of the hush money
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payments. he testified about this before the house oversight committee in 2019. >> other checks to reimburse me for the hush money payments were signed by donald trump, jr. and allen weisselberg. >> reporter: throughout his testimony he mentions weisselberg many, many times. >> the bottom signature i believe is allen weisselberg's. i was asked again with allen weisselberg. i was instructed by allen. in the office with me was allen weisselberg. >> reporter: cohen pleaded guilty to tax evasion and violating federal campaign finance law among other things and was sentenced to three years in prison. in 2018 weisselberg was granted limited immunity in the cohen investigation so that he could share information with federal prosecutors in new york. trump once shared his views on immunity at a rally. >> and if you're not guilty of a crime why do you need immunity for? >> when it comes to those hush
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money payments would allen weisselberg know if trump had knowledge of them? >> absolutely, yes. he wouldn't do anything without him. he wouldn't ever do anything without his approval. >> reporter: at first trump said he had no knowledge of the payments. then his attorneys admitted that trump reimbursed cohen for the $130,000 hush money payment he made to porn star stormy daniels. if trump did make hush money payments, then he may have violated election law. the question surrounding all of it, of course, is will allen weisselberg cooperate and share what he knows about his boss? did donald trump sign-off on everything that allen weisselberg touched? or did he have the ability to go rogue? >> allen weisselberg doesn't go rogue. allen weisselberg and him have a conversation about everything they do together, yes. donald trump knows everything he's doing. >> reporter: weisselberg has pleaded not guilty to 15 felony charges in connection with an
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alleged tax fraud scheme dating back to 2005. the trump organization was also charged with ten counts and pleaded not guilty. but weisselberg's boss, donald trump, has not been charged with a crime. given what you know about allen weisselberg's relationship with donald trump, do you think that mr. weisselberg would ever flip on him and cooperate with investigators in this case? >> absolutely, he would. he will protect himself. >> and joining us now is randy kaye in dural, florida, outside the trump national golf course, which of course is owned by the trump organization. so, randy, were you able to get any sense of jennifer weisselberg's reaction to the charges today given her many meetings with investigators? >> reporter: john, i spoke with a representative who was answering questions on her behalf, and he told me she says she's pleased the truth is finally out. those are her words. but if you look at the range of charges it's everything jennifer weisselberg has been talking about. she said she and her ex-husband receive from the trump
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organization an apartment in new york city, a car, tuition. and in that indictment is that $200,000 tuition payment paid by the trump organization to a private school in new york city. i'm told that is for allen weisselberg's grandchildren, jennifer weisselberg's children. here he's 74 years old. now he has to decide he's not just facing an investigation, but he's been indicted. certainly his loyalty is at play here, john, as he decides his next move. next, why republicans are still allergic to investigating the january insurrection, even threatening the careers of house lawmakers who join the probe. you've been taking mental health meds, and your mind is finally in a better place. except now you have uncontrollable body movements called tardive dyskinesia - td.
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♪ me and you singing in the park ♪ ♪ me and you, we're waiting for the dark ♪ keeping them honest tonight a question of priorities directed to the lawmakers who seem to have forgotten or choose to ignore that not so long ago they were fleeing a violent mob bent on overturning the election and maybe hanging the vice president and house speaker while they were at it. tonight house republicans are once again fleeing their responsibility to get to the bottom of what happened that day. they're refusing to serve on democratic controlled select investigative committees. one big incentive not to serve, well, it's coming from their boss, minority leader kevin mccarthy. who according to sources yesterday threatened to strip any republican member of their committee assignments if they served on the select committee. today he said he was not
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threatening anyone but declined to name members to the committee, only liz cheney chose to serve. >> i think it's clear to all the people on this committee that our oath to the constitution, our duty, our dedication to the rule of law and to peaceful transfer of power has to come above any concern of bipartship or politics. >> she say just one of two republicans to vote in favor of the select committee and one of a few republicans to support the bipartisan commission that die in the senate. she was one of a small number who voted to impeach the former president, was stripped of her leadership post basically because of it. it's become something of a habit, a priority worth enforcing and punishing decenters for. on the other hand, a republican congressman having ties with a white nationalist holocaust
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denier as paul gosar asked to nic fuetes, no problem. what about andrew cly? he's still serving on the house oversight, and get this homeland security committees. what about congressman matt gaetz? has being investigated in connection with the alleged sex traffic of a-mile-per-hour gotten him bounced from his positions? don't be silly. he's still on the judiciary committee. marjorie taylor greene, she had the conspiracy theories and jewish space lasers. now, she was strip of committee assignments but by democrats after kevin mccarthy refused to take any action to hold her accountable. because whether haters, crazies target federal sex crime investigations are offensive to him, disciplining them isn't a priority. defending the former president is. seems to be his first priority. oh, and just as a cherry on top
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of this hypocrisy sunday it's not like kevin mccarthy hates all select committees either. >> everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? but we put together a benghazi special committee, a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping. >> with that, let's bring in california democratic congressman adam schiff. he's chairman of the house intelligence committee and a member now of this select committee that most republicans want nothing to do with. chairman, what do you think it says that kevin mccarthy is willing to punish republican lawmakers for serving on a select committee to investigate january 6th but he won't strip people of committees for anti-semitism, jewish space laser conspiracies, alliances with white supremacists. what does that say? >> well, that kevin mccarthy only has one priority and that is to do whatever donald trump tells him to do. donald trump doesn't want the events around january 6th
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investigated and didn't want the commission, so mccarthy opposed the commission as did mcconnell and now the select committee is meeting the same opposition from mccarthy. but we're determined to do our job nonetheless and to develop a comprehensive objective report of what happened prior to the sixth, what happened on the sixth, why we were so ill-prepared and most importantly make recommendation on why we're protecting our capitol and in the future. >> what happens even if no other republicans besides liz cheney join the committee, what happens then? >> we'll go forward. the fact they rejected a commission that was even five democrats, five republicans with, you know, combined subpoena power, that is neither party could subpoena witnesses on their own. the fact they would reject that, demonstrators clearly they're just not willing to do their duty. and we can't force them to do their duty and uphold their
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oath. we can only uphold ours. but we're certainly not going to leave the events of january 6th uninvestigate asked the country unprotected because they won't do their jobs. >> on the subject of subpoena power, congressman benny thompson has said he would, quote, not resist calling former president trump to testify. do you want to see the former president trump testify, subpoenaed as part of this probe? >> we're, i think, postponing any of those kind of decisions until we're fully staffed up and not just with our staff but our members and we have a chance to discuss the scope of the investigation and our priorities. there'll be plenty of time later to decide on which witnesses are most important and what evidence we need to gather. but at this point we're still just getting squared away. >> kevin mccarthy, also a name i think some people are wondering whether or not he'd be called to testify because of the phone call he had with the president on january 6th. of course you're no stranger to people ignoring subpoenas or not
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responding subpoenas. what happens then? >> well, we'll cross that bridge, i guess, when we get to it. there are mechanisms that we have to enforce our subpoenas including holding people in contempt and going to court. but as we saw in the mcgahn litigation which took us a couple years, that's not a very viable remedy. in fact, i have a bill protect our democracy act, which would accelerate court enforcement of congressional subpoenas so that we don't have anyone run out the clock on us like this again. those reforms are going to be very important. but in the near term we're going to do everything we can to make sure we get the evidence we need to develop that report. >> how important is it to you to find out exactly what was happening in the white house, ask people who were there, maybe subpoena them, to find out what the president was doing, what he was saying, what he was asking for during the insurrection? >> well, i think it's going to be very important that we get a
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full body of evidence and follow the facts wherever they lead. and i don't want to prejudge what direction that will take us. we really need to discuss that as a committee. but at the end of the day there should be no sacred cows. we should investigate and find out all the factors that went into that tragedy, why there wasn't a more robust response in protecting the capitol when it happened, what role anyone played in that whether they're in the white house, in the congress, in the police, you name it. so we want this to be comprehensive. we want it to be objective. we're going to do our best to do it in a nonpartisan way, and we'll just follow the evidence wherever it leads us. >> congressman adam schiff, i appreciate you being with us tonight. >> thank you. next, president biden in florida today as counselor in chief, consoler in chief. meeting with the families of those holding out hope for those still unaccounted for in the
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breaking news this evening in the deadly collapse of the condo in surfside, florida. just a short time ago authorities say they were able to resume the search and rescue efforts. they had been paused for almost
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15 hours after three devices monitoring cracks in the structure, the structure that has remained standing went off. engineers have secured the area, however miami-dade's mayor now says they are proceeding with plans for the likely demolition of the building. the number of dead remains at 18. 17 have now been identified. the latest include the two children we told you about last night as well as their mother. they as well as the father were killed. the children were 10-year-old lucia and 4-year-old ema. their mother 42-year-old rodriguez, and the father had been previously identified. all of this occurring the same day president biden and the first lady visited surfside. about 200 in all for almost three hours. he said he told them to never give up hope and later told reporters the families understood the odds this far-out from the disaster. once again drawing from the family tragedies in his own
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life. >> realistic. it just brought back so many -- so many memories. it's bad enough -- it's bad enough to lose somebody, but the hard part, the really hard part is to not know whether they're surviving or not, to not have any idea. when the accident took my wife and my family the hardest part was were my boys going to get out, were they going to make it and not knowing. not knowing. when you're flying home from washington you get the news. you just don't know. >> that's president biden and the first lady were flying in air force one the president was wearing a hat given to him by the recovery crew earlier. the hat has their names on them. i'm joined now by the mayor of surfside. mayor, thank you so much for being with us once again.
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i want to ask you about the search efforts once again resuming. what can you tell us about how it was determined it was safe to start again? >> that's a really good question. and the mayor expressed in the press conference we were going to get some answers regarding that. and i'm curious to understand exactly why, you know, we couldn't get started sooner. but there were probably good reasons. it was disappointing. it was a long 15 hours especially when minutes and hours matter desperately. >> i know everyone is eager for this search and rescue effort to continue, and 15 hours feels like an eternity. i know today was also a very emotional day with president biden and the first lady there. just talk to us about what was going on behind the scenes and the visit today? >> it was great. the president arrived and we were taken into a room with about 20 officials, elected
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officials and high level support personnel. everybody talked to the president and gave their perspective of, you know, what was going on, what needed to happen. the president was very, very attentive. he basically in so many words said, listen, i'm here to tell you you're going to get whatever you need. towards the end of that meeting i reached out to the president because the little girl who i had come across praying for her father in the rubble late one night had called me and asked me if she could meet the president. and i gave the president her picture and told the president the story, and it was a very emotional moment for all of us at the meeting. and the president looked at me and he said i absolutely want to meet her, please have her come right away. so i called and had the police department bring her up. the president met her, gave her a hug, reassured her, and i think really boosted the morale
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of not only that little girl but everyone around her. so my hats off to the president. he did what he said he was going to do the day after his office called me. they followed through beautifully. he's done his job, and he can be very proud of that. >> that little girl still waiting for word on her father. we learned today from the miami-dade mayor that authorities are proceeding with plans for the likely demolition of the part of the building that is still standing. and that's a tough ward i know for the families still waiting and still holding out some kind of hope. what kind of sense can you give us of the time line there? >> well, i don't think it's a tough word. i think that's when there's a choice between knocking that building down or, you know, pulling people out of the rubble, i think it's an easy choice. i met with the governor early this morning to talk about just that subject while we were
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stopped, and he and i both agreed if the building's the problem, we need to get rid of the problem. and to that end we agreed that we would take preparatory steps in that his emergency operations director started to get some information on demolition companies, and i directed my building official to do the same thing so that at the point where mayor cava made a decision, she would at least have some of the homework that are already been done so we wouldn't lose any time. >> i understand the search efforts have resumed in three of their nine grids. and they're able to safely search in three of the grids. the remaining six not being searched. is that because of concerns still about the building? >> well, you know, i was out there again around 5:00 to do a check because i had been told by the fire chief that the work might start in an hour or two.
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so i just wanted to go out there and see what was going on for myself, and i did go out. and everybody was -- was very excited because the work was ongoing. and it was going full speed. i will note that there was a barrier that was built some days back that sort of kept the men off of the building, the structure that still remains because there had been some reports of debris that was loose or falling. and that barrier has been moved back further now. so that the teams are working on the pile, but they're not working it in those areas that have been cordoned off, unfortunately. and i hope that they'll find a way to stabilize that area so they can work in that area, too. because like i said earlier, you know, minutes count. >> they sure do. mayor, we appreciate your time tonight. thank you for being with us as always. please let us know if there's anything more we can do.
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according to the anti-defamation league anti-semitic incidents here in the u.s. are near historic levels. tonight examining the worldwide rise of scent semitism, we look at europe where numbers are showing the jewish community are also under increasing attack there. here's cnn's melissa bell. >> reporter: he knows all about where hate can lead. his grandparents survived the holocaust. they always warned imto keep his head down because there might be more to come. last august they were proved right. rosen was targeted along with his synagogue. its walls made from the bricks
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of the synagogue destroyed in 1938 defaced. >> after this attack, those warnings of my grandparents have kind of flashed back, and this made me very, very sorry and brought tears into my heart and my face. >> a few days later just outside the synagogue rosen was chased by just in time. >> certainly i was scared of being physically attacked. different than being verbal attacked, which i'm used to because anti-semitism has risen within the last year. >> reporter: in 2020, anti-semitic incidents? austria reached their highest levels since the country began keeping records 19 years ago. and in german, incidents rose as much as 30%, according to a german watchdog. much of the rise in both countries is being blamed on
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harsh covid-19 lockdown restrictions. protesters demonstrating against the restrictions held signs depicting forced vaccination by jews and two people in berlin were shouted at by a man who blamed jews for the pandemic. >> anti-semitic conspiracy theories have been there for centuries. when there's a pandemic, they have come to the fore again. >> reporter: across europe, anti-semitic attacks will be rising for years. from a deadly standoff in 2015 at a supermarket in paris, to vienna when four people were killed outside of a nothsynagog last year. in brussels, this rabbi wears a baseball cap when he goes out to hide his very identity.
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outside, i prefer to cover my head less conspicuously. it's not healthy, he explains, to live in an atmosphere of fear and where you feel hunted. i think that as well as being vigilant, we must tackle the evil at the root of the problem and that is about being different. the holocaust killed an estimated 6 million jews in europe. but denial grows and hate speech returns. as well as the tension around covid lockdowns, the violence between israel and hamas in the middle east in may also drove hate towards jews across europe, like here in berlin, or in brussels where they spoke of ancient battles between jews and muslims. >> you do see a cyclical increase in expressions of
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anti-semitism linked to events in the middle east. if we look more broadly at the phenomenon of anti-semitism in europe, we see it's much older and wider. and it's really a european issue. >> reporter: the hate is also spreading online, according to human rights watch. horrific cartoons like this one depicting jews with a big hook nose, or this one in france of a conspiracy theory blaming jews for the pandemic and shared, he says, mistakenly, by a candidate in recent regional elections. the european commission has a deal with tech companies to remove offensive content within 24 hours, but only once it's been alerted. this is the memorial in vienna to the 65,000 jews who were deported during world war ii. it's a reminder of europe's own
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very violent homegrown history of anti-semitism, an anti-semitism that has never quite disappeared. prayers continue to be heard all over europe. from the center of paris to the temple synagogue. he says that his grandparents' approach of keeping a low profile after the holocaust was understandable but also misguided. european jews keeping their heads down has not prevented anti-semitism from rearing its head once again. >> contrary to my grandparents, i will tell my son or i will tell young jewish people to be proud of being jewish. >> you mentioned the deal with tech companies to take down hate speech within 24 hours. what else is being done to fight
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anti-semitism there? >> this new idea that they're trying to push through a new piece of legislation that would try to make tech companies more responsible for their content. what the european commission coordinator explained to us is that it would be giving regulator better access to algorithms and how they're dealing with their content. what he said, they're not like postmen delivering letters, the contents of which they know nothing about. in the meantime, the pandemic has only worsened this and, you know, this is something that i've heard from people whenever we've covered anti-semitic attacks. a rabbi said, look, the world needs to be sitting up and paying attention. what starts with jews never ends there, john. >> such an important reminder and report. a moment today in florida that set an example we can all hope to follow.
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