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the fact is i'd probably take angie's word before i'd take the word of what the article said. the point is, as conductor will tell you, amtrak became my family. i literally, literally every single day that i was in the united states senate, got the -- either the 728, which became the 732 and/or -- if i got lucky, i got the metro that left at 6:00 or the 6:30 coming home. you get to know the folks. i used to have a christmas party for amtrak employees at my home. it got so big, we ended up having a summer party because family retirees kept coming back. i want to tell you, these guys work like the devil. they really, really do. and amtrak wasn't just a way of getting home. it provided me, and i'm not joking, an entire other family.
a community dedicated -- professional and who shared milestones of my life. and i have been allowed to share milestones in theirs. i've been to an awful lot of weddings and christening, and unfortunately some burials as well. we're family. you know, i remember one night, my daughter was only 6 years old and it was my birthday. and we were voting. i went to bob dole and i said, bob, when's the next vote going to take place? he said, joe, why? i said, well, my daughter's really upset i'm not going to be able to be home for the birthday cake she made for me. he said, what do you need? i said, i need time to catch the 5:00 metro and i can get the 6:28 coming back because on the platform in delaware, you walk from one side to the other. got off the train, my wife was standing there, my daughter had the cake, candle lit, i blew them out, gave me a kiss, walked
across and got on the southbound. it's been part of my life. i've been riding amtrak almost as long as there's been amtrak. i've come to see amtrak doesn't just carry us from one place to another. it opens up enormous possibility. especially now, it makes it possible to build an economy and future and one we need. last week i announced the target of cutting greenhouse gases and gas emissions in half by 2030. and most of that are those emissions in this county -- in this country coming from transportation. but if just 10% of the freight shipped and largest trucks went by rail instead, we would be removing 3,300,000 cars from the road and doing 260 million trees in america. as i said from the girning, when i think about climate, i think about jobs and rail, and hopefully the expansion of rail
provides good union jobs, and connects people to jobs and economic opportunities that can be reached from wherever you live. let's put this in perspective. for years i fought efforts to cut funding for amtrak because cutting funding for amtrak would be a disaster for our environment and our economy. amtrak carries four times as many riders between washington and new york city as every single airline does within 15 miles of the shore from florida all the way up the coast. imagine what we would have to do, a single day without the northeast corridor, amtrak in the northeast corridor would cost the economy $100 million. if you shut down all passenger service on amtrak's northeast corridor, the projects that compensate for the loss, you would have to add seven new lanes of highway on i-95.
and consider that cost. average of $30 million for a linear mile on i-95. this is a bargain. a bargain's a bargain. it's economical and environmentally a lifesaver. that's why, in my rescue plan, american rescue plan, we've worked hard to keep amtrak running at the height of the pandemic because we weren't traveling amtrak, furloughed 1,200 employees. we were able to provide emergency relief to keep rail service running and we have brought back 1,200 union workers who had been furloughed. by the way, you get a union wage. not 15 bucks an average. a prevailing wage. but we have to do more than just build back. we have to build back better. and today we have a once in a generation opportunity to position amtrak and rail and inner city rail as well in general to play a central role in our transformation and
transportation economic future. to make investments that can help america get back on track, no pun intended. before the pandemic hit, amtrak's requiredship and revenues were on the upswing. the northeast corridor has been making money for a long while now, but last year the whole amtrak system was projected to break even for the first time in history, but then we had the pandemic. but there is still a huge backlog in deferred maintenance, huge need to modernize our trains, our stations, our bridges, our tunnels. we're talking about critical jobs, like the hudson river tunnel, the baltimore, potomac tunnels and sesnd. of this two-thirds would support existing amtrak routes, including the northeast corridor, but nationwide. we're talking about union jobs, i said. we're taking care of the riders,
lane, track, wiring, switches, fixing bridges, tunnels, modernizing stations and repairing and rebuilding this vital infrastructure. this would allow for the potential to expand passenger rail service. imagine a two-hour train ride between atlanta and charlotte going at speeds of 220 miles an hour. and 2 1/2-hour trip between chicago and detroit. or faster and more regular trips between los angeles and las vegas. a route i imagine could be pretty popular on fridays. bill, as you've said, your vision for amtrak calls for a new inner city rail service. up to 160 previously unserved communities being connected. think of what it will mean for opportunities if we can connect milwaukee to green bay to madison. scranton and allentown to new york. indianapolis to louisville. and much, much more. it's going to provide jobs and also accommodate jobs.
what this means is that towns and cities that have been in danger of being left out and left behind will be back in the game. it means families don't have to sacrifice the cost of living or quality of access to opportunity to sometimes only occurs if they live in a big city. we have a huge opportunity provide fast, safe, reliable, clean transportation in this country. and transit is part of the infrastructure. and like the rest of our infras infrastructure, we're way behind the rest of the world right now. we need to remember, we're in competition with the rest of the world. people come here and set up businesses, people stay here, people grow because of the ability to access transportation, access all the infrastructure. it's what allows us to compete. and with the rest of the world to win the 21st century, we have to move. china already has 23,000 miles of high-speed rail.
220 miles per hour. two-thirds of all the high speed rail in the world. 220 miles an hour. and they're working on transit on trains that can go as high as 400 miles an hour. we're behind the curve. folks, as i said the other night, america is on the move again. we need to remember that. we're in the united states of america. there's nothing beyond our capacity. nothing we can't do if we do it together. and we celebrate amtrak's birthday. i was thinking about amtrak's role, as i said on my birthday, when they allowed me to come home and blow out that candle. there's a lot of things amtrak does. you know, the fact of the matter is, if we're able, which is now beyond the ability to pay for it, but if we're able to straighten out three curves from washington to new york, you could make it from washington to new york in an hour and 32
minutes. an hour and 32 minutes. folks, there's so much we can do. and it has such an incredibly positive impact on the environment. incredibly positive impact on work. on opportunities. again, all the things we have to do to put amtrak in place and be one of the great, great contributors to our country is we have to invest. so, you know, if you think about it, when i was vice president with barack, he allowed me to put together a budget for amtrak. and it had money for high-speed rail at 200 miles an hour from char charlotte, another line going from -- in florida down to tampa. another line, if we had moved, we would have that tunnel fixed in new york now. the money was there to get it
done. there's so much we can do. and it's the biggest bang for the buck we can expend. so, on this momentous birthday of amtrak, i want to thank you for making so many birthdays possible. i believe the best days for amtrak for rail and america are ahead. i really believe that. i'm just confident, i'm confident we can get this done. and i'm anxious to see the new train. thank you so much. god bless america. may god protect our troops. thank you, thank you, thank you. >> we have been listening to president biden there help celebrate the anniversary of amtrak. 50 years old. he really speaks with some genuine passion about amtrak because it was such a part of his life as he would commute from washington, d.c., home every night, or most nights, he was saying, back to delaware. he told that sort of poignant story about his birthday and getting on the train and only having time to go out to the
train platform, blow out the candles of his cake that jill, now the first lady, had brought for him, kiss his young daughter and get back on the train to go back to work. >> yeah. we've known for a while just how much a part of his family is. he said today, amtrak has become a part of my family. the people on those trains have been. now it's at the center, at least a significant part of the pitch he's making for a multitrillion dollar infrastructure improvements across the country as part of the getting america back on track tour. he's there in philadelphia. the vice president is in cincinnati. they'll be trying to take this to the people for support. let's go to jeff zeleny at the 30th street station in philadelphia. the president started with a lot of thanks, a lot of stories and then got down to business. >> reporter: it was more a walk down memory lane than a sales pitch about the details of this infrastructure plan. clearly, as you said, you can
tell president biden's strong affinity for amtrak and a slice in time. he was right when he said, he's been riding amtrak almost as long as it's been in existence. this is the central part of the argument why he believes all of these plans are needed. the infrastructure plan is needed. it's to keep the united states competitive with china, a globally competitive world relies on reliable infrastructure. we have seen time and time again, bridges are crumbling, airports are not up to speed like other countries. that's a central part of his argument. what he didn't get into are the details. how will these plans be paid for? this is the america jobs plan. it's the first part of his two-part economic agenda. there is broad support, at least in theory, of needing to improve infrastructure. the question will be, is the white house going too big by
adding onto this bill? how will this look at the end of the summer? the white house and folks folks on capitol hill believe they'll come to an agreement mid to late summer. for the president's part at least, a bit of nostalgia as he stood in front of a new acela car telling all of those old stories. >> yes, indeed. jeff zeleny, thank you very much. we are also following breaking news out of the white house at this hour. on the advice of the cdc, the biden administration will now restrict travel from india because of that country's skyrocketing covid cases. >> india is reporting more than 300,000 new covid infections for the ninth day in a row. chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins is with us as well as vedica in new delhi. kaitlan, when does this restriction on travel to and from india start? any indication on how long it
will last? >> no indication of how long this is going to go for. of course, you have to think it's going to depend on just how the situation progresses in india and what has happened. right now the cases are not letting up. they are continuing to see these record-breaking numbers. that's what led to the decision the biden administration will restrict travel to india starting on tuesday. this doesn't start right now. that certainly was a consideration given the panic those travel bans last year caused for americans who are overseas. this doesn't actually start until tuesday admit night. it doesn't even apply to american citizens. it is not for permanent u.s. citizens or humanitarian workers, we should note. this policy does not apply to them but it's for non-u.s. citizens who have been in india for the last two weeks. this is a concern the cdc had with not just those rising case numbers but also the variants. that's something you've seen multiple health experts talk
about over the last several weeks as people are getting vaccinated and that is getting ramped up, is a concern about people who aren't getting vaccinated and the countries who aren't ramping up vaccinations as you see these variants mutate. that really played a key factor into this decision by the administration to make this decision. so, the question of how long it's going to last still an unanswered one. it remains to be seen what's going to happen there. i assume we'll get an update from the white house on this. they have confirmed, yes, this is their plan starting on tuesday to restrict travel from india to the u.s. >>. >> thank you. any reaction there yet to these travel restrictions? >> alisyn, it's late at night here so i'm not expecting a reaction in the coming hours. perhaps local time tomorrow morning we will be getting a reaction from the indian government. like kaitlan said, this was
expected as well given the u.s. travel advisory for americans to leave india if they k especially the families of employees, government employees of the u.s. here in india. they had asked them to use the availability of commercial flights. now, what's interesting is domestic carrier air india was operating at pre-covid levels. they had about 29 flights taking off every week and planned to expand to 31 in the coming days. now those operations have to be put on hold. a lot of people were leaving india, especially u.s. citizens because of the case load going up. it's much closer to 400,000 currently, which is a staggering number, along with the deaths, which are the high hest ever ina has seen. we spoke to some people traveling recently, and they said the price of tickets were skyrocketing and very few seats were available. this was anticipated because there was a rush on these flights back to the u.s. at this point this time, alisyn.
>> vedika, the reports that you and other colleagues there have been bringing us have been absolutely heartbreaking. there's some anger with the government for disorganization. how are people faring now, trying to get something as crucial as oxygen for their family members? >> victor, they're only hearing bad news. that's the sad part of this situation. being an indian and being a journalist, it's been very difficult for me to keep the emotions aside when it comes to the developments in india. i can just about imagine how others are faring at this point in time. it's too close to home this time. oxygen supply has been the biggest issue along with the shortage of beds. whoever we have spoken to, either they're running around to get remdesivir, medicine tore covid patients, beds or oxygen. in fact, i was just speaking to my husband, and i'm going to make this a bit of a personal
account because he just called me saying a colleague needs oxygen and they're running in the middle of the night right now trying to get oxygen for him. so, this is the story in every household possibly. every one is being affected at this point this time. you've seen the visuals from crematoriums. you have heard people talk and break down. some people are just exhausted at this point in time. others are numb and some haven't been able to digest the tragedy within their own households. at this point in time, yes, there is a shortage. people are coming in, countries are coming in to help. there are donation drives happening overseas to help bring these oxygen concentrators and other emergency aids into india, but i don't really see a huge change on the ground. there is frustration, there is anger building. especially in social media where people are wanting someone to be held accountable for this, be it state authorities or the central government. the anger is. . alpable at this point this time. >> certainly understandable.
it is impossible to be there and see in person what we have seen on television and not be impacted, not feel something. vedika, to you and your team, stay safe. thank you. president biden weighs in on whether america is a racist country, as a group of bipartisan lawmakers work on policing reform. congresswoman sheila jackson lee joins us to talk about that. that's why at america's beverage companies, our bottles are made to be re-made. not all plastic is the same. we're carefully designing our bottles to be one hundred percent recyclable, including the caps.
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after a columbus police officer shot her after she lunged at another girl with a knife. today family and friends gathering to say final farewell to the teenager who was living in a foster home at the time of her death. the shooting was captured on police body cam video and the case is under investigation by the ohio bureau of criminal investigation. >> a group of bipartisan lawmakers is working to push forward legislation on police reform. president biden has called on congress to pass a bill by the end of next month. my next guest is part of the effort to make that happen. democratic texas congresswoman sheila jackson lee
with with us now. you were part of the talks with
relatives of victims of police violence, the negotiations with republicans to get something done. how close are the two sides to coming to an agreement on what can get to the president's desk? >> first of all, thank you for having me. what a powerful meeting and meetings that were held there's nothing more potent, more powerful than the story of a loved one about the loss of their family member. all of these family members were eloquent, they were profound and pointed. and i really think they were convincing. again, i think they made it very clear that the george floyd justice in policing act is not against policing in america, but it is and does stand for good policing in america and the ending of police misconduct that day after day finds officers who are doing the
wrong thing and they are bringing about the death, the death, the heinous
death of a loved one who could have been alive, just like george floyd, but for the actions of a police officer who is designated and destined to protect and serve. >> well, to the question of how close you are to getting something done, one of the sticking points for senator tim scott, senator lindsey graham is the house version's limits on qualified immunity, which essentially protects law enforcement officers from most civil litigation. you have called the qualified immunity protections an injustice. could you support a bill that does not lift those protections? well, i think as the negotiations are going forward, i may not have to do that. frankly i believe, as i said, the meetings yesterday were powerful, but i think there's a greater understanding of really what qualified immunity is. let me just say very simply. it only allows both the victim, the harmed family of the victim to go into the courthouse just as the police have been able to
go in the courthouse. also, if it is described as going after those officers like an officer chauvin that exhibited absolutely clear bad kublgt, it's not going after officers who every day of the week do their work. i think it is the wrong analysis that our friends on the other side of the aisle may be using by suggesting this is going against all police officers and changing the way policing is done. that's not the case. qualified immunity only rises when there is that kind of action that we have seen in the actions of breonna taylor and daunte wright and the list goes on. we're going to continue to lead with the negotiators. we're going to continue to hear from the families. and i, frankly, think we're going to get to a good place. >> congresswoman, you say as negotiations go on, you may not have to. do you have some indication, you
were in the meetings with senator scott and with senator graham, that they will back off that requirement to keep those protections for individual officers? >> well, they met with the families. all i can say to you is i see a light at the end of the tunnel. we are still talking, everyone is talking and they're trying to talk in the right direction. i'm going to reserve how i would vote or whether or not that would be the final vote, but, yes, i'm committed to qualified immunity because i think it only goes after those officers exhibiting bad conduct and, again, know believes in people having their right to a day in court. >> let's get this -- >> that's what this is. >> let's get to the broader question. i apologize for the interruption there. >> that's all right. >> president biden was asked to respond to senator scott's assertion that america is not a racist country. i want you to listen to what the
president said. >> no, i don't think the american people are racist. i don't think america's racist, but i think the overhang from all of the jim crow and before that, slavery, have had a cost and we have to deal with it. >> congresswoman, you have talked about institutional and systemic racism, but the question that was posed to the president, i'm going to put to you. is america a racist country? >> well, i'm going to hold to the point of my earlier comments. institutional racism and systemic racism taints and spoils the way that america treats in one instance, african-americans, and in other instances, minorities. there are aspects of america's laws, america's structure as relates to the black community in particular and other communities. that is racist.
there are certainly what the president said is accurate about the american people. the american people, i think, have called to goodness, that's where they want to be. they want to be in a nation that respects all people, but our system is such that it then allows americans, people to act in instances in a racist manner. and i believe that it is important to call that out and to be able to find ways that we can learn more about each other and, as you well know, i'm carrying the bill h.r. 40, about reparation proposaproposals. that study, that commission will be open to all ideass for people to hear the history, understand the history, and i think we will get to a better place. but, yes, action by america and actions by people in america have been racist. >> congresswoman, let me get you on the record on one last thing here. you serve on house judiciary with congressman matt gaetz. after the reporting from the
daily beast that an associate of his wrote a letter in which he says the congressman paid for sex, also had sex with an underage girl -- or girl, underage not necessary there. ted lieu, who is also on the committee, said he should be removed from the judiciary committee. do you believe matt gaetz should be removed from that committee? >> i believe girls that now are in the limelight should be protected. and if these actions have tr truly -- i'm always a person that believes you must get the truth and the facts. and so i think it is imperative that the ranking member, mr. jordan, deal with his member and that kevin mccarthy deal with his member. that's -- >> what do you think the appropriate way to do that is? >> the protocol of the house is for them to act. if they act in a way that
removes him, that's appropriate what should happen. >> what do you think should happen? >> i think that if someone has had that kind of involvement, then it's very difficult to see how they continue to stay. >> all right. i should also say comingman gaetz has not been charged. he has denied any wrongdoing. congresswoman sheila jackson lee, thanks so much. >> thank you very much. next we have new cnn reporting about president relationship today between donald trump and mike pence, as mike pence considers a run for president. that's just ahead. when you earn a degree with university of phoenix, we support you with career coaching for life. including personal branding, resume building, and more. that's our promise to you. that's career services for life. learn more at phoenix.edu
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in his very first speech since leaving office, former vice president mike pence touted the successes of the trump administration. he later tweeted this, in 48 months of the trump/pence administration, it achieved the lowest unemployment, highest household incomes, most energy production, most pro-american trade deals, most secure border and strongest military in american history, although there might have to be a little fact-checking on some of those claims. >> the language has changed, if you'll notice. that's all despite reports that the trump/pence relationship has been strained since some, as you'll remember, of president trump's most ardent supporters wanted to hang mike pence. let's bring in cnn national
political reporter mev reston. >> i would say it's xlit but somewhat strained. the president, the former president called mike pence a couple of times after he had a p pacemaker inserted. he called him when he became a new grandfather. you'll notice in that language that you just quoted, it is no longer, we all stand on donald trump's broad shoulders, as he used to say over and over again. it is now the trump/pence administration. you're going to be hearing that more and more from mike pence. onl obviously, he wants to run for president. i'm sold by a source that the relationship is not quikly to be what it once was. >> polite is better than what it was when the former president called him a coward. >> well, that's right. >> and people had to chase him out of the capitol. >> i don't think mike pence has
forgotten that. he knows that the former president's going around telling friends how disappointed he is in mike pence for not breaking the law, as my source put it. >> maeve, let's turn to you and president biden during his joint address to congress. he said he was speaking to americans who he felt were left behind, forgotten in an economy that's so rapidly changing. your reporting is on who those voters, those americans are specifically. >> yeah. i think that's the big question that we are all going to be asking over the next two years, and really four years as we look ahead to 2022 and the midterm elections in 2024. and i think it will be really important to define that audience he was speaking to, but talking to some economists yesterday, they were pointing out that's what's been smart about biden's messaging, when he talks about americans who feel like they're left behind, it's
not just those reagan democrats who we tend to think of, who left the democratic party and were ultimately attracted to trump because of both his economic message and message on cultural issues, but that biden's message on infrastructure and these big economic plans he's trying to get through really appeal to a lot of the black and brown voters who turned out to vote for him in the cities across the country. and that's, in part, because so many of the economic gains that we have seen over the last couple of years since the great recession have really benefitted the folks on the coast. particularly the tech boom. so, it will be interesting to see whether these economic messages from biden can overpower trufr's cultural messages -- or the trump's gop cultural messages and actually persuade voters to switch over. >> yes t will. let's talk about what's going on with liz cheney and the rest of the gop leadership in the house. steve scalise, the minority whip, does not appreciate what
liz cheney has been saying. here he is today. >> i know the media likes making a lot out of some of the conversations when maybe liz cheney takes some direct swipes at president trump. president trump is still a very active part of our party and a vocal leader in our party. >> yeah, i mean, he's team trump. >> oh, he is. and there are lots of grumbling on the republican side about liz cheney, who is quick to criticize donald trump whenever she can. she believes he should not run for president again, for example. and their point is that either you're in the leadership and we're with donald trump or you're not in the leadership if you're against donald trump. and there is a sense, and i was just talking to one republican today about it, there is a sense, they like kevin mccarthy, and there's a sense that she is putting kevin mccarthy in a tough spot, where he has to
choose between cheney, whom he has defended in the past, and donald trump, whom he has also defended in the past, as you know. so, it brings the party's disagreements to the forefront. of course, they don't want to do this. they have one goal and that's to win back the house. >> gore yeah borger, maeve reston, thank you both very much. moments ago vice president harris weighed in on the new restrictions set to take place next week on travel from india. next, the cdc marks a milestone with 100 million americans fully vaccinated. we have details on reopenings around the country. you need a financial plan that can help grow and protect your money. an annuity can help cover essential expenses in retirement. have the right financial professional show you how... this is what an annuity can do.
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on the issue much india, we have announced that there's going to be a travel restriction starting on tuesday on the advice of the centers and disease control. our covid-19 experts, medical experts, our national security adv advisers. it is important to note, as i said earlier, that we have a responsibility as the united states, in particular as it relates to the people that we have partnered with over the
years, to step up when people are in a time of need. as it relates to the people of india, we have a longstanding, decades old relationship with india, with the indian people. in particular, around public health issues. tonight, in fact, we're going to be sending a plane with supplies that will include oxygen with an expectation that will provide some level of relief. >> that was vice president kamala harris moments ago on those new restrictions on travel from india. this comes as americans are seeing signs they may be getting close to the light at the end of the pandemic tunnel. roughly 30% of the country is fully vaccinated as of today. a cnn analysis finds a giant drop in coronavirus deaths since the peak in january. one health policy leader is saying, quote, the worst is behind us. alex field is following all of the developments for us. >> reporter: a major milestone
in america's fight against covid. >> with 100 million americans fully vaccinated as of today, we continue to move ahead in our progress to end this pandemic. >> as more people get vaccinated, the average number much deaths falling, down by 80% since the peak in january when 3,000 americans were dying daily. the spread of infection also slowing nationwide. the average number of daily new cases dropping to its lowest level since october. >> what we've seen in the last week has been stunning progress in terms of reducing the levels of covid, greatly increasing the numbers of vaccinations. >> reporter: new york city mayor bill de blasio says he's hopeful that one of the country's first covid epicenters could reopen by july 1st. >> chicago is safely open for business and play. >> kentucky preparing to welcome 50,000 people to the stands for
this weekend's derby. delta air lines putting passengers back in middle seats and the return of cruising is back on the horizon, asooz as soon as this summer, according to the cdc. joe biden press expressing confidence that all schools should probably be able to open. >> there's not overwhelming evidence that there's much of a transmission among young people. >> reporter: moderna is preparing to have their vaccine authorized by children, while the authorization for the same age group could come soon. the hope of expanding vaccine eligibility intensifies as vaccination rates slumps to its lowest level in weeks. a new cnn poll shows 26% of american adults still don't plan to try to get a shot at all. >> we are now increasingly focused on other groups that will take time to reach. and we expect the number of shots administered each day to moderate and fluctuate.
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of a lot of ideas that were way ahead of its time. >> several critics through the years called my father the most imitated man in television because many of the early experiments he made were often used and developed by other comedians to a greet effect. >> and here he is now, the question man. >> like the question man where he would provide the question to an answer. >> buffalo bill. the question -- >> when you buy a buffalo, what do you get at the first of the month? >> johnny did a later version called kanak the magnificent. >> sis, boom, ba. >> sis, boom, ba. >> describe the noise a sheep makes when it explodes. >> joining us now is liz winstead, the co-creator of "the daily show" on comedy central. liz, great to see you. >> hey, good to see you. liz, let's place t"the daily
show" somewhere along the evolution of late night tv. it's my impression, tell me if i'm right, that's that's what you are eared in the kind of biting political satire that we have now and before that it was more celebrity driven and interview driven and more benign jokes, and "the daily show" was the tipping point. where do you see it flitting? >> yeah, i think, that you know, i never looked at it as a traditional late night show in the sense of cultivating guests and being silly. it really to me was a reflection of the media and of the news-makers, right, so we did sort of two things, right? we launched in 1996, and i think a lot of people forgot. we launched in july of 1996. cnn was the only game in town. at the end of the show msnbc launched and then fox launched in october so we were kind of focusing on the explosion of news magazines and sat rising that and local news, and then all of a sudden there were three
cable news channels with time to fill and "the daily show" wanted to be as satirical around media presentation as those in the media. that was kind of the difference. >> where are we going now in late night because so many things have changed because of social media. a lot of people are seeing these clips and sketches from shows the next morning on their phones, and covid certainly has changed it. where do you think we're headed next? >> i mean, it's really interesting because with people being able to get commentary so quickly, how do the late-night shows keep up, you know, it's something that used to live in a 24-hour news cycle, it can die in an hour and a half, and so i think where we're going is -- i'm curious to see will late night be late-night viewing or
will i bank a bunch of them and watch them at the end of week and watch at noon? people set their own rules especially with the way that the initial broadcasts clip and repost. you have the opportunity to have your late night show at 8:00 in the morning if you want, and i think that's the way we consume information nourishing and i don't know that that's going to change. >> how about with covid. stephen colbert is doing it from his attic, what do you think of that now? >> i don't know. it's really interesting to see just how it's all going to play out. i think that there has been a real hunger for people to have an audience again and to have people back in the space. >> yeah. >> and i think that how people consume it might be different than how people initially if and see it because even when i watch all the shows that i love, i really want to hear laughter and audience cutaways. >> yeah. >> it ups the stakes for the host, right?
>> i certainly miss even the laughing, even watching. i know the hosts certainly do. liz winstead, thank you so much, and, again, "the story of late night" premiers sunday at 9:00 right here on cnn. certainly we'll be looking forward to that. >> great to talk to liz. >> thanks for watching. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. >> a new covid catastrophe now having a ripple effect in the united states. "the lead" starts right now. breaking today. the white house will start restricting travel from india as bodies are burned in mass cremations during a crippling outbreak there. the investigation into rudy giuliani ramping up in a big way. now we're learning it might all be about one specific official whom president trump fired. plus, another state in the united states on the verge of passing a law adding new limits to mail-in voting, and it's