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hello everyone. i'm kate bolduan. thank you for joining us. at this hour we're about ten hours from president biden's first address to a joint session of congress marking the end of his first 100 days in office. it is an important moment for every president. setting aside the grand pomp and circumstance that usually comes with this event, it is the moment the president is expected to clearly lay out his priorities for his presidency. what all he's accomplished in the 100 days he's been in office. that is no different for joe biden tonight. what is different, though, is the impact of the pandemic on all of this.
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tonight's address will look very different from previous presidential addresses in the house chamber. usually some 1600 people will be filling the room. you know the video i'm talking about. tonight only 200 will attend in person. chief justice john roberts will be present to represent the high court. only two cabinet members will attend. no need for the morbid assignment of one cabinet member, there will be no designated survivor this time. also no first lady's box and no other guests in the house chamber, no unmasked faces except for the president. one historic and long overdue change, two women seated behind the president of the united states for the first time, house speaker nancy pelosi and vice president kamala harris. also important, remember that president biden will be speaking tonight at the site of the violent attack on american democracy, the site of the
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january 6th insurrection. a lot is going on tonight, but we're learning more already about what the president will say in his speech. let's get over to cnn's jeremy diamond at the white house. what is going to say tonight? >> reporter: listen, kate, president biden will be delivering a wide-ranging speech looking back at his first 100 days in office, what he's been able to accomplish and deliver for the american people in his view and also looking forward, especially on the coronavirus pandemic. now that he's reached his goal of 200 million shots, what the future of the coronavirus response looks like and how americans can be more optimistic about the future. the centerpiece of this address will be, aids have told us, the unveiling of this american families plan. this is that $1.8 trillion proposal to expand child care, education. there's a whole lot of things in this, including no family paying more than 7% of their income on child care, paid family and
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medical leave, two years of free community college, paid family leave as well. all of this is going to be paid for in biden's proposal by increasing taxes on the wealthiest of americans, that top 1% sliver and sometimes an even slimmer sliver of the wealthiest americans in the country including, for example, in terms of the president's proposal to increase some of the capital gains taxes. so you will hear this ambitious proposal from the president which has already faced major, major pushback from republicans. it is altogether a component of this overall jobs and infrastructure proposal which totals nearly $4 trillion altogether if you factor in that $2.3 trillion infrastructure proposal that the president laid out last month. the president will also be talking, of course, about some of his other priorities including passing the george floyd justice in policing reform act, which he and other
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democrats have talked about passing by may 25th, the anniversary of of george floyd's death. we know there are discussions on capitol hill there. again, the optics of this speech will certainly look very, very different. as you mentioned, kate, there will be only 200 members in the audience, lawmakers attending compared to the normal thousand that you see. that will make for far less raucous applause than you typically see. of course, the optics behind the president, the vice president and the speaker of the house both women for the first time in history. >> jeremy, thank you so much. 100 days into the biden presidency, what are americans saying about the job he's doing right now? cnn has new polling numbers just calling in. political director david chalian joins me with a look at that. david, what numbers jump out? >> this is our brand new poll. let's look at his overall approval rating as he nears the 100-day mark. 54% of americans approve of the
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job that joe biden is doing, 43% disapprove. his immediate predecessor trump never received above 50% in approval. i want you to look at this broken out by party. 93% of democrats approve of the job joe biden is doing compared to only 7% of republicans. this is massive polarization. when we talk about our poll rised politics, this is what we're talking about. that's why it's so important to win over the middle, as he's doing with 51% of independents. we tested a whole bunch of issues, kate. two-thirds of the country, 66% approve of how he's handling the battle against coronavirus. he's got majority support on environmental policy, racial injustice, his handling of the commander-in-chief role, the economy, which is important, taxes, foreign affairs he's just
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below a majority there. weak spots are clear, immigration, 41% approval, well below overall approval. gun policy at 40%. some key attributes that we tested at this 100-day point. look at what is the top attribute we tested for joe biden. cares about people like me. 57% of americans in this poll says that fits joe biden, that he cares about people by me. that empathy factor, kate, we know is so huge. he's at majority support across all these attributes. >> we always talk about how a president is doing at this point compared to presidents before him. it's always a measure that we watch really closely. biden on that front, david, is down near the bottom. he's just above donald trump compared to his predecessors. when you look at that, consider how hyper polarized the country is. can you put context around this?
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should we be comparing presidents today to presidents past? >> listen, i think it's a valid comparison to look where it falls. you're right to note we live in different political times. this is what i was referring to with that polarization. here you can see it was just a different kind of honeymoon that previous presidents had received at this 100-day mark than today. joe biden is down here in the bill clinton territory, significantly above where donald trump was. case, i will note, this goes back to this notion. this is why, and this is different than what we saw in the trump administration, trying to win over the middle, to your argument, helps you get majority support across the whole country. if you're going to see near total opposition from the opposition party, it's all that more important, that not only do you juice up your base, but you also reach out to the middle. that was donald trump's concern. he always juiced up the base but
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not good at getting support from the middle. >> what are the lessons in terms of governing? great to see you, david. thank you so much. >> sure. so you wonder what joe biden can say tonight, what priorities he can lay out to change more minds among the american public, the middle as david chalian is highlighting. cnn's john harwood is joining me for more on that. john, what is at stake for president biden tonight? >> the stakes are enormous. you talk about opportunities to move minds among the american people. the first speech to congress in the first few months of a president's term is a much'sier opportunity to climate change minds because views are somewhat softer, even though we're in a highly polarized environment, harder in a president's second, third or fourth year. the stakes are enormous in multiple ways for the president. it's critical for his economic strategy to get the jobs and families plan through.
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all the problems that we've been talking about, the middle class wait stagnation, widening income inequality, special problems for people of color in the united states. all those have been growing throughout joe biden's four decades, five decades of service within washington. it's critical for his climate strategy. he's got major investments in the electric grid and r&d, advanced batteries, retrofitting buildings, things to keep the united states and the world on pace to hold the rising temperatures down and a way to avoid catastrophic effects. that's one of the reasons he needs this plan. it's critical to his political strategy. we know the democrats have very narrow majority in the house and senate. history tells us they have good chance of losing those majority. one, he has a narrow window to get things done. secondly, he thinks getting big things done like this jobs and families plan is going to be critical to persuading the american people to keep the
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congress in democratic hands. finally, it's critical to his strategy for preserving america's place in the world. joe biden's consistently made the case that this is a moment when dem octobocracies like thed states, competing with ought to being rah sees like china, that the united states needs to show that democracy can still work. this is the closing argument he's going to make in this speech and for his plan. that's why he thinks it is so important. >> good to see you, john. thank you so much. a reminder you can watch president biden's address to congress right here on kn. live coverage begins at 8:00 p.m. eastern. still ahead for us, we'll show you live pictures of a courtroom in north carolina where a judge is considering whether to release the body camera footage of the police shooting death of andrew brown in elizabeth city, north carolina. his family is in the courtroom right now. we'll have much more on that in
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right now we're monitoring a hearing outside elizabeth city, north carolina, where a judge is deciding whether or not to release body camera footage in the deadly shooting of andrew brown jr. in court, the district attorney is arguing against its release saying more time is needed for the investigation before they put it out to the public.
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cnn's joe johns is in elizabeth city for us. joe, you spoke to the sheriff as he was heading into this hearing. what did he say? >> reporter: i sure did. he made it clear that he would like to see the video released, all of the videos released. we did learn in that hearing that apparently there are at least four body cameras that recorded video. so there's that. let's listen to what the sheriff said to me in that conversation and then we'll talk more about the hearing. >> you want it out, right, sheriff? >> absolutely. >> what's been holding it up? >> the north carolina law. that's why i filed the petition, to get this ball rolling because it's best for the community, the office and the brown family. that's what we're going to do. we're kind of late. i need to get in here. >> how many cameras actually shot video? >> everything. >> were there five different angles, was there one? >> i'm not sure right now. i know we have more than one.
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we're waiting for the investigation to unfold and we're really close. >> is the d.a. on board? >> the d.a. wanted to -- he didn't want to hinder the investigation. he didn't want to release it so he could do his full investigation. i'm past that point. i want to put it out. >> thank you, sheriff. >> we'll be back. >> sheriff, was it an execution like the family says? >> the word execution is -- i would say that kind of inflames everybody. no, i don't agree with the word execution. >> reporter: so there you go. during this hearing, the county district attorney said he would not like to see this video released at least for 30 days until the state bureau of investigation concludes an investigation or at the time of trial if there is a trial, for any of the individuals who are on the video. he said that's because he's concerned about maintaining the possibility of a fair trial.
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also, there are some concerns for the individual officers about the possibility of threats if people are able to make out who it is that appears on the video and what they do. back to you, kate. >> joe, thank you very much for bringing that to us. we're continuing to monitor this hearing. reverend greg drumright is the organizer for the justice coalition. you were actually just in court with the family. what did you hear? how are they doing? >> well, the family is taking this matter day by day. there are days where they're lament and their grief has left them overwhelmed and numb. something that i call, what they're dealing with is black insanity right now. considering all things and
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considering the trauma that they are facing every day, the family is incredibly strong right now. >> reverend, we just heard from joe johns that the d.a. is arguing in court. we know the family wants the body camera video released, and they want to see more of it because they did not see all of it from all of the angles when they were able the preview it. the d.a. in court is arguing it not be released for 30 days or maybe even longer. what's your reaction to that? >> my reaction is that is preposterous. i think it's inexcusable of this d.a. to argue against the family's wishes because they have legal standing and legal grounds, legal rights to see that video. it is important to the family to know what happened to their relative. imagine if it was your family, if it was your father, if it was
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your son. wouldn't you want to know now versus later? so the family and the community here, activists and organizers, are all up in arms as to why our criminal justice system is even allowing so much time to transpire. now seven days later, the family is still arguing for full transparency and accountability. >> you and many others have gotten to the point of, one, being frustrated with the sheriff and the different attorney and county officials and how they've handled this, but two, gotten to the point where you think the state's attorney general needs to take over this case. why? >> because, what we're up against here in north carolina as in other parts of the country is a very broken criminal justice system. there's two courtrooms for black america, for brown america right
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now. the courtroom of inequality and the courtroom, as some would say, of equality. what myself and other people that have been fighting this fight here on the ground for nearly a decade now have experienced and what the brown family is going through, what the fred cox family is going through in high point, north carolina, fighting for justice for him is the other side, the other fight, the fight where we have to constantly put pressure on our public officials, now attorney general josh stein, to step up and take control of this c case. we feel, the clergy community, activist and organizer families feel, this court, this d.a. is inept, incapable and unable to deal with these matters fairly,
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equitably and justly. so we want to see criminal justice reform here in north carolina. this is happening all across our st state. what happened in the andrew brown case is nothing different than the pattern and practice. >> the sheriff said he wants the video released, he disagrees with the d.a. at this point. that's why he went to court this morning. state law makes release of this type of video in north carolina than other states. does what the sheriff is saying today change your view of what has played out in the last six, seven days? >> actually, it doesn't. we know all of these players on the sheriff's side, on the d.a.'s side, are sitting back in a room discussing this. we know they are aligned in some
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ways that may not be known to the public. we've been fighting this fight not just here in eastern north carolina, but we've been fighting this fight all through out our state. it doesn't make sense to us that the district attorney is arguing against the sheriff knowing they have had full disclosure about this video and what it contains, and, therefore, we have lost trust. we have lost trust. i was with the floyd family throughout their fight for george floyd's justice, that case in the derek chauvin trial. we've lost so much trust across america as relates to receiving fair, due and equitable process through our court systems. that's why right here in north carolina we're arguing for criminal justice reform. i sit on the state's court commission who advises the governor.
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we're putting a full-court press on our public officials to come in and oversee this case so we can get some justice, some full transparency for andrew brown's family. >> let's see what happens in court today. we could be getting a decision this morning. i'll be leaning on you to get your reaction after that. reverend, thank you for your time. coming up for us, a cnn exclusive. newly obtained emails reveal missed warning signs the day before the capitol riot. just order in the app! ditch the burgers! choose better, be better. subway®. eat fresh.
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cnn has learned capitol security officials ignored warnings about threatening social media posts just one day before the capitol insurrection. online chatter calling for people to storm the capitol and even kill federal workers. cnn's whitney wild has this great reporting. whitney, what was missed? >> reporter: my colleague zach cohen and i found there was a private company that reached out to capitol security and said we've identified this list of troubling posts. here is just one.
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we will storm government buildings, kill cops, kill security guards, kill federal employees and kill agents. that was a post someone put on social media. another member of the capitol security staff reached out to a colleague and said, there's now charter on parlor about storming the capitol. please let me know if there are any updates to credible threats. the information she received, there is no talk about any credible threats or storming the capitol. kate, what this shows is this piece of information was pinging around the capitol security staff and yet this was dismissed. the question for senate investigators as they look through what happened and try to piece together these systemic failures is why intelligence officials seemed so reluctant not to believe the information which was right in front of them. we asked the investigators, people deeply involved in this report that will come out probably in coming weeks in a series of volumes why intelligence officials seemed to not believe, again, what was
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right in front of them. they told us, kate, they have not yet heard a good answer for that, even after weeks and months of interviews and document research and questions. they still don't have a good answer. >> that is a good question. so there was something like 850 d.c. police officers defending the capitol that day. one of the officers, whitney, who suffered one of the most brutal attacks that we know of spoke to our colleague don lemon last night. what did he say? >> reporter: he said that in that crush, in that riot, he thought it was a distinct possibility that he might lose his life. he also spoke about how he feels when he hears people try to whitewash the violence of the day. kate, no one can say it better than he can. here is metropolitan police officer michael fanone. >> it's been very difficult seeing elected officials and other individuals kind of whitewash the events of that day
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or downplay the events. some of the terminology, hugs and kisses, very fine people, is very different from what i experienced and my co-workers experienced. i experienced a group of individuals that were trying to kill me to accomplish their goal. i experienced the most brutal, savage hand-to-hand combat of my entire life, let alone my policing career which spans almost two decades. >> kate, it was a very compelling interview. we have ten minutes on the cnn.com website. i would encourage everyone to watch it. it is a poignant reminder at the very center there were human beings who were willing and really thought they might have to give their life to save the capitol. >> perfectly put, whitney. officer fanone's words at this
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moment should be the beginning and end of how people judge or how they even describe what played out that day, full stop. words matter. very clearly. he knows that so brutdly. thank you so much. coming up for us, horrifying. that's how the cdc director describes the covid crisis unfolding in india, just as we're also learning there is a debate going on inside the administration of how much of the u.s. vaccine supply should they share with countries like india. my garden brings us together. my garden is my therapy. find more ways to grow at miracle-gro.com.
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while the u.s. appears to have turned a corner in its fight against the coronavirus, the cdc director says she's cautiously optimistic. while that is happening, india is in the midst of a devastating surge. the country is in desperate need of medical supplies, protective equipment, oxygen and vaccines. cnn has learned that there is not consensus right now within the biden team about how much the u.s. should help other countries in terms of its vaccine stockpile. cnn's kiley at wood has this fresh reporting. what are you hearing about this debate within the biden team?
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>> what i'm hearing is the internal debate over whether and when to share excess doses here is growing more intense. that's because there are people, folks in the administration, at the state department who think these vaccines should be shared with countries who are facing more dire circumstances due to this pandemic sooner rather than later. you have folks at the white house on the wealth team, particularly the coronavirus task force team who think we need to pay attention to the science here. the u.s. needs to make sure that all the folks, the whole situation in the united states is dealt with properly before sharing. we know the biden administration is headed in the direction of sharing. they said earlier this week they're preparing to share about 60 million doses of astrazeneca with other countries soon. but what i'm learning is the folks who are frustrated about this sharing not happening yet have gone to outside groups, business groups and interest groups quietly advocating for
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them to publicly say that the administration should start sharing sooner rather than later, essentially putting external pressure on the government to do so. this, of course, is happening as the biden administration behind closed doors is looking at all these requests that are coming in from other countries. it is no surprise to anyone the countries around the world want access to these excess doses of vaccines that the yaunited stat has. secretary of state tony blinken says there will be a plan in the coming days for the vaccine sharing. i'm told that plan will probably focus on the situation in india, and in the coming weeks we can expect them to divulge a fuller plan with regards to sharing with other countries. it's interesting that this pressure is mounting so much that internally folks have gone to outside groups to try and advocate. that's something that some administration officials think is not productive. others think it's necessary at
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this time. kate. >> great reporting, kylie. joining me for more is dr. craig spencer, director of global health and er medicine at columbia university medical center. dr. spencer, first i want to get your reaction to what kylie was reporting about this debate in the biden administration over how much and when to share some of the u.s. vaccine stockpile with countries like india and other countries. what do you think of that? >> the reality is, unfortunately, we're not going to be able to vaccinate india out of its surge. vaccines are for preventing them. although we should and absolutely are sending supplies, oxygen, personal protective equipment and ventilators to india, we need to get these doses to india and around the world who globally was the worst week of this pandemic to date, 5.7 million cases. even as the pandemic ebbs in the
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u.s. largely because we're stepping up vaccines, that's not the situation globally. the u.s. can and i'm sure this administration will do more to get the rest of the world vaccinated. >> this juxtaposition is really important and something we've talked about quite a bit. the cdc cautiously optimistic about the direction the u.s. is headed compared to india and other countries. you often have talked about how this is not a country-by-country problem. should we be feeling optimism if other parts of the world are spiraling? >> recently dr. tedros, the director general of the world health organization compared to a house on fire. if you have an inferno in fire in one place and you're hosing it down, but the inferno is raging somewhere else, you're still at risk of being caught in the flames. that's what's happening. the u.s. is vaks naelting a big chunk of the population.
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>> from the biggest and broadest to i guess maybe the most specific and small in the united states, this latest change in updating mask guidelines that came out from the cdc. if you're vaccinated, you don't need to wear a mask outside, don't need a mask with small groups inside. can you explain why the cdc is still recommending vaccinated people need to wear masks at all in any set? >> that's a really good question. i know by this point we have from many studies and real life experience shown that the vaccine helps prevent us from getting sick, from severe illness. we know that transmission of the vaccine is very significantly slowed if you're vaccinated. i still think they're waiting for that critical last piece to make sure, once you're with many people, the risk is so low. right now we know in the u.s., even though the pandemic is ebbing here as we get more people vaks naetded, we still have 50,000, 60,000 cases a day which is still a lot of virus.
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i think there are three quick takeaways from this recent guidance. one, being vaccinated is the safest. you can do everything and feel a lot safer. i urge everyone to get vaccinated. two, i think it's really important that many people are saying you can take your mask off outdoors may not feel comfortable yet. here in new york city where we were pounded by covid a year ago, i know many people feel safe and protected. even if the risk is slowing, people's risk mitigation, their ability to adapt is going to take a bit longer. third and the most important is these are individual guidelines. we need to think about this as a community risk. it's not just what we can do to protect ourselves, but to protect our communities. wearing masks in places, especially if you're unvaccinated or waiting for a vaccine, is critical. >> always great to have you. thank you, dr. spencer. >> thank you. coming up, a fight over free speech and snapchat. the case that started with a high school cheerleader and is now a major fight over free
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this morning the supreme court is hearing oral arguments over a huge free speech case. it started with a high school cheerleader, and after not making the varsity team she put out an angry post on snapchat, middle finger and all, and she was not on school property when she did it but she was suspended from the squad for it. now the united states supreme court is deciding whether or not the school had the right to do that. joining me now, cnn senior
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analyst. >> it sounds to me like the justices are leaning in favor of the student. the justices made clear students have some free speech rights in school. we have known that for 50 some years. at one point justice sotomayor said, one of the things students talk about is how much they don't like their classes or teachers. >> what do you see as the outcome here? the impact of the outcome is most important. >> sure, this impacts the free speech rights of millions of students and more of more of what students say is happening off the physical campus, and you think back to when we were students most speech happened in school, and if you wanted to say something, you would say it in
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school. now students are on social media and it's complicated further by covid and the supreme court showed a recognition of that and that we need to adjust standards and allow students more room to express themselves outside of school. >> with the supreme court, and this gets at how much authority you are pointing out do public school officials have over students when they are outside of school, and it's always important to consider with the supreme court justices how they could thread the needle, rule very narrowly. >> if we want to give you a narrow ruling to the student, and how do we do that? they could say, look, you don't have unlimited free speech rights, they are broad, but they gave hints that where they would draw the line would be threats and harassment, and what this student was do something venting
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we're now hearing for the first time from one of the jurors who convicted former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin of murder for the killing of george floyd. cnn's adrian broadious joins me. you spoke with brandon mitchell and the whole world was waiting on his decision along with the other jurors. what did he tell you about that experience? >> well, it was an experience that weighed heavy on brandon as well as the other jurors. he said every day was tense. he said it was extremely stressful and took an emotional toll on him. he also mentioned he didn't think he and the other jurors would deliberate for as long as they did. he thought it would take about
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20 or 30 minutes but he was wrong. i asked him to take me inside the courtroom and tell us about things that we could not see from the outside watching at home. one thing he pointed out was derek chauvin's demeanor. he said at the beginning of the trial derek chauvin was confident, but as the prosecution began calling more expert witnesses, that confidence began to erode according to brandon mitchell. he's a 31-year-old and he's a basketball coach at a high school in minneapolis, and he also hosts his own podcast. i asked him if there were any moments or any testimony that moved him to tears, and listen in to what he said. >> so when george floyd's brother was up on the stand and he was going over with how they grew up and they would play basketball, it reminded me of me and my brothers and it just 100% brought tears to my eyes and i
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had to pull my mask up high enough so the media and everybody could not see me crying because it reminded me of how i grew up with my brothers and we would just do things together. >> he also told us when the jury went back to deliberate they reviewed body cam footage from derek chauvin and the other officers involved. they also looked at footage taken by bystanders, and also reviewed the training documents from the minneapolis police department despite the guilty verdict, this decision, according to mitchell, was not easy for him and other members of the jury, because he said at the end of the day our decision will impact the life of someone else. he said if he could speak with derek chauvin he only has one question, he wants to know what was he thinking during those nine minutes and 29 seconds?
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kate. >> they did not know because he did not testify. fascinating, an important conversation. thank you for bringing that to us. thank you all for joining us at this hour. i am kate bolduan. john king picks up our coverage right now with "inside politics." hello and welcome to "inside politics." i am john king in washington. thank you for sharing an important day with us, a busy hour ahead, any moment a north carolina judge will rule on whether or not to release the cam footage, and an autopsy says sheriff deputies shot brown five times including once in the head. we will bring you that ruling as soon as it happens. first, the president addresses a joint session of congress for the first time. it's both a challenge and an

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