tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN April 27, 2021 4:00pm-5:00pm PDT
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curfew. let's go out front. >> good evening, i am erin burnett. the grand party of conspiracies. at the same time president biden had this to say about the new mask guidance for vaccinated americans. >> starting today, if you are fully vaccinated and you are outdoors, you need and not in a big crowd, you no longer need to wear a mask. >> well, the usual suspect were already on the attack, trashing the cdc's new guidelines. >> at some point we are going to have to stand up and say this makes no sense anymore, this is not health and science and safety anymore, this is just control. >> no, and on fox it kept going to new level after new level. we were told that having a child wear a mask is equivalent to physical child abuse. >> your response when you see children wearing masks should be
no difference to your response from someone beating a kid at walmart. call the kids immediately, keep calling until someone arrives. >> i mean this is not just nonsense, we can not only hope, i am being serious here, a call regarding a child who's being beaten and whose life is at risk is somehow on hold? because people are doing what carlson so flipingly suggests. republicans are throwing anything they can on president biden and not just on masks. take a listen to this. >> say good-bye to your burgers if you want to sign up for the biden's climate agenda. >> the green target with to cut our red meat and cut out 90% of the red meat that you all eat, that's four pounds a year. >> no burgers on 4th of july and no steaks on the bbq.
>> it came from this. a daily mail article speculates how the u.s. could cut greenhouse gases in 2030. they quote an academic paper from the university of michigan and tulane. animal products by 50% would cut emissions by 21% and 2030. it is not biden's plan, it is a study. the secretary of agriculture calling this out as a flat out lie. there is no effort to design to limit people's in take of beef. coming out of the white house or the usda. listen to this, this lie taken on a life of its own. the congressman tweeting, they want to limit us about four pounds a year, why does joe stay out of my kitchen? >> well, that's not the only red
meat that republicans are serving up to their supporters. we have gone through this whole mess and now the burger then there was this headline today. got a lot of talk. it was based on the picture you see of one copy of harris' book propped up at the migrant center. senator tom cotton tweeting now they're forcing taxpayers to buy kamala harris' book to give to those immigrants. harris refused to visit the border but the vice president can still make a profit from her book deal. congressman jim jordan, not to be left out. ronald mcdaniels, it is worth asking was harris paid for thesis books, is she profiting from biden border's crisis? maybe they just should have
maybe checked the facts before they did the whole blaming act. if you did that like "the washington post" did, you would have found out this. where the picture was taken, it was a single cougpy of harris' book that was donated in one facility and put out. no hand outs to migrants or taxpayers funds. no profits for harris. no nothing. the whole thing is fabricated. tonight the reporter behind the debunk story resigned. she claims she quit after having been quote, "ordered to write the inaccurate articles." they are a waste of our time because there are serious stuff that republicans should be focused on now. president biden's plan for this country. he passed $2 trillion in covid relief and he wants another
$4 million in infrastructure. i will give you this math. that's roughly a third of this country's gdp. the richest nation in the world. a third of our entire economy, they want to spend in a couple of months, this is transformational stuff. it will impact this country's for generations. but, instead there are certainly not looking into all the details there if they can't check a fact on whether kamala harris is handing out her books because of taxpayers money on the border. they're not checking a single fact and never mind equating masks of physical child abuse. kaitlan collins is live in front of the white house. these attacks that may seem petty but far from it. >> reporter: i think they have been a little confused by it and una unaware of some of these false
reports and of the vice president's books being given to migrant children. jen psaki was asked at the briefing and she didn't know what the reporter was talking about, and now has been debunked and false. even though it does not have a real correction on the story. the white house seemed confused by it but maybe not surprised. you have seen this pattern since president biden took office where republicans are not latching onto some kind of extra cred crit criticisms. these other criticisms that don't have merit are the ones that are rising to the top when you are looking at what republicans are saying about what this president is doing. tomorrow night he'll be addressing members of both parties when he's in that house chambers making the first address to congress. we should note some of the
republicans, he had not been spoken to. he had not spoken to biden since that day. in this speech tomorrow night when he's rolling out these big policy plans you were talking about, once the republicans that could be debating at the white house over. he's going to reference the riot that happened on capitol hill. it is a backdrop that you can't ignore while president biden is there and trying to get in that very building because they were trying to disrupt the process that cresemented his win. >> i want to go to bill crystal. for a party that says cares about debt and spending, they have been outed because of a complete lies.
we are taking 30% of the economy. they're not talking about that at all. they're taubing about burgers and kamala harris's book and massachusetts abuse and kids and all of this is false. this is how they're choosing to spend their time, why? >> i mean they think it works and are uninterested in policy decisions and debate. if you look at the polling. president biden and the biden administration staying above the fray a little bit. where is the democratic party? they should be going af after -- members of congress are just lying and they're called out and maybe they said something stupid because they believed something they saw on fox then they should apologized. if you are a senator and you say something and it is just 100% wrong, you should say i was wrong. the new york post, the reporter
quit saying she had been ordered to write this story. i agree with you that the mask thing is a whole different degree of sickness. that's sick. urging people to call child protective services. they wear mask sometimes on the playground depending on who they are playing with. tucker carlson is saying the cops should be called and these kids should be interrogated or something? it is really repulsive. well, that's fox and they're kind of weird, what can you do about it. there are cable system and there are advertisers and i see some of them did something. >> they obviously believed the burger story, larry kudlow told them it was the case so he goes out and says that. some of these knowingly peddal
lie. >> jim jordan and ronald mcdaniels, they're all doing it. they don't care and there is no apology. are they right? their voters don't care and it resonates. >> it may be the best that they got frankly to appeal to their voters. it is probably not going to work but it may be the best strategy that they have available to them. remember what they are trying to do is recapture this sort of trumpian magic that was not at all about policy. the four year republican administration which really policies took a back burner. all of the voters who have been caught up in that political movement if you will are not that interested in taxes. they're not interested in infrastructure and not interested in government spending. they're interested in cultural
wars. they're interested in twitter fight and frankly in accepting these false bad faith claims that are being made in conservative media. it is a tough situation they are in. it is a result of the fact that for four years and the current leaders of the republican party is someone who completely divorced from republican id ideological orthodoxy years past. >> when you hear tucker carlson saying something like this like making a child wearing a mask is so different than seeing someone quote "beat a kid at walmart." what goes through your head? >> i mean -- my last word to tucker, progress is not the right word i guess to down to where he is now.
he always had a slightly mean streak. reporters have to have some of that, right? tucker is a talented guy but this is just beyond the normal being a little outrageous and trolling. i find this one, my colleagues -- plenty of moms who have kids and their kids are fine but they are friends and they put on a mask out of decency and safety or access caution, does not hurt anyone. i find it repulsive. tucker, i already knew him. he's part of the club, oh, he's at a first name basis with him. he's carlson, he's as propaganda now. really a low -- i think we need to think in a creative way about
the ways to put pressure on fox and the way to put pressure on him. guess who goes on the show. it is really terrible. >> liz cheney has and she just told the new york post today about colleen and cruz. she came out and said this. i think some of the senators who led the unconstitutional charge not to certify the election, you know in my view that's disqualifying. she's talking about their clear presidential as separations for both of holly and cruz. holly responded telling ma manu raju that she's out of step with gop voters. she hung her own members out to dry over and over. >> both things could be true of
what she's saying and he's saying. >> i think that's exactly where the republican party is. it is true. she's right. it is disqualifying if you didn't speak up about the january 6th riot. if you were in fact egging it on. it is also true that she is in the minority within her political party right now and that the people who have power are the hawleys of the world or the cruzs of the world and the marjorie taylor greene and so on and so forth. they are calling the shots. even kevin mccarthy is not willing to stand up for his own member of leadership. it is an extraordinary circumstance but kudos to her for sticking to the principle on this one. she may be lonely with few exceptions. >> abby and bill, thank you. protesters gathering in
elizabeth city in north carolina tonight as we have new surveillance video. it is deputy heading to andrew brown's home, it is moments before he is shot and killed. crucial new context is just coming now. we'll take you to the high training that some police officers are receiving in order to prevent shootings. >> we would like to talk to you for a quick second. one private school in florida, officials say they are banning teachers who got vaccinated. ♪ ♪ ♪ among my patients i often see them ♪ have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. sensodyne sensitivity and gum gives us a dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues.
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only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ . breaking news, a curfew is going into effect in an hour. the fatal shooting of andrew brown jr. new surveillance video showing deputies pulling up to brown's home moments before the shooting. jason carol is outfront. >> they're shooting him in the back of the head, that's not right at all. >> reporter: andrew brown jr. son and the attorney representing the family saying the results of the autopsy commission confirmed what they had suspected. >> it was a kill shot to the back of the head. >> reporter: the report shows
brown was struck by five bullets. the first four hit his arm and the fatal shots came next. >> a fatal wound to the back of mr. brown's head as he was leaving the site trying to evade being shot at by these particular law enforcement officers who we believe did nothing but a straight out execution. >> reporter: the results causing more pain for brown's son who told us the deputies need to be held accountable. >> it is not right, you know? don't no nobody deserves this and it is still happening. nothing is changing. >> do you believe when all is said and done that you will get the justice you are looking for. >> i hope so. >> we pray for it. >> reporter: late tuesday, cnn obtained video that a source
says show sheriff department ar deputy arriving in a pickup truck. they were executing a warrant for alleged drug activity. the family called for the release of all the body cam footage and they say they only show 20 seconds of footage on monday after intense pressure. >> if they're being transparent, why won't they show the world if they have noing tthing to hide f they did everything legally. why won't they show this video? >> reporter: north carolina's law requires for body cam footage to be released to the public. the department will comply with any court orders. >> this tragic incident was quick and over and less than 30 seconds and body cameras are shaky and sometimes hard to d
dicipher. outside of this, police are gathering witnesses. >> reporter: protesters have been marching out the city demanding on more transparency. the governor has weighed in asking a special prosecutor he appointed overseeing everything going on and going forward. that way there are more assurances to the community and the brown's family. it is really not up to the governor. it is not his call. it is up to the local district attorney to make that decision. the district attorney has not weighed in on this particular issue. the pressure is on for the governor. the pressure is on for protesters who are out here tonight. >> erin. >> jason, thank you very much. i want to go straight to charles
ramsey, and professor, i want to start with you first. you can see them wearing helmets and approaching the back of the truck. they pulled up to brown b's dri way. they were serving a warrant for alleged drug activities related to crack cocaine. >> every department is a little different. some department use s.w.a.t. teams in order to make force entries into home. i don't know the policy. it is not unusual to have a s.w.a.t. team to execute a warrant. when is in chicago pd, we did our own search warrant.
philly squad often executed warrants. it depends on the jurisdiction. >> i think it is important that you say that. some people watching looks so military so you are saying in many big cities that would be normal. i think the context is important here. professor, let me ask you of the independent autopsy, that shows brown's fatal shot was in the back of his head. there were other shots to his arms. what can you tell us based on the information that we have in this autopsy that's been put out? >> well, four shots were to the right arm. two of them were grazing shots, just penetrating and the other two shots to the right arm were not lethal, they were both upward shots. one of them to the right mid-arm actually dr. hall was able to recover a small metallic
fragment. this was the second autopsy. the first retrieved all whatever the bullet was internal and whatever they could obtain. the fifth shot was the head shot. that was a lethal shot. it penetrated the skull and fractured the skull. when the bullet hit something hard like that, it is going to deform in fragments. once it hits the brain, it wobbles and turns. i think he died probably a few minutes after that last shot. >> i mean look, it is tragic, we are talking about human being here no matter what the circumstances is suffering the last few minutes. that's horrible and you were saying it was not instantanous.
the impact has been looks like they are hiding something. all of that being said, is it possible, is there any situation in which you would see this many shots, up to ten shots or being shot in the back of the head would be legitimately executed situation by police. >> that's why we have to see the video to find out exactly what was going on. there are strict rules in place for using deadly force against a suspect. from what i heard so far, this does not seem to fit that particular portion of the policy. i need to see the video. what they managed to do in north carolina is fumble the ball beyond anything i have seen in recent times. they need to come up with the
video. go before the judge. if they were able to show 20 seconds and i imagine waiting for the judge to get that, show the whole dog gone thing. this is a hot potato. the only way they'll be able to deal with it, they'll show the video. if it is bad, it is bad. they're making matters worse. >> thank you very much, i appreciate your time. next, we'll take you inside the intensive police training that's designed to prevent police shootings. plus, 25% of women say they are now worse off financially than before the pandemic. why? should the government do anything about it.
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shooting in 2018. look at this story from ryan young. >> reporter: these four officers are working their way through intensive training. >> what we are going to see is a team of officers who are dispatched to a distraught male on a bridge. >> reporter: it is part of realistic high-pressure moment they'll go over in the days to come. >> i am fine, i didn't call the police. >> reporter: role play and work on simulators. >> sir, it is okay. we just like to talk to you. >> reporter: all this in hopes of not having another tragedy like 2018. when police say officer believed he had a gun but none was found.
>> our community would not be safe. >> reporter: situations officers faced on a day-to-day basis across the country, like the fatal shooting of daunte wright and ma'kiah bryant. >> reporter: the sacramento pd takes that literally and into teachable moments. >> it can teach the brain in that environment. >> some of these incidents you see on tv, almost immediately after a major police incident were able to take that and analyze it and incorporate any lessons learned into our training. rotating all their officers through the training that reflects the diversity of challenges they face.
while videos of police encounters like george floyd's feeds calls for police reform. >> after protests then what? we got to talk solutions. i don't want anybody in our community to be shot. >> reporter: solutions from chief daniel haun starts with a reckoning the problematic history of law enforcement in america. >> when people say defund police department because we have racism in our path. we have to acknowledge that. absolutely we have racism in our path but so as our entire country. >> reporter: from situations like this one where officers are trained not to engage physically. but intervene to deescalate and keep the community and officers safe. >> deescalation is the expectation of the community. the community wants us to respond to these to these
problems and help solve the problem. if we are escalating the situation, we are not helping solve the problem. >> so right now, erin, you are seeing the traffic stop that's going on right now. all these officers right here are in training. they're learning how to be the officers of the future. they're learning each step as they know this is the flash point for so many concerns across the country. the officers learn how to get out of the car and how to approach somebody in a car and how to keep their voice down and have a conversation. one of the things they are doing is announcing charges to make sure the reasons why they are being pulled over are announced. they are hoping it is a step by step process so they can avoid some of the issues we see across the country. once again looking at the future and learning as we speak. >> it is amazing because it is actually there as you are reporting. thank you very much. next, one and four women say they are worse off financially than before the pandemic.
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tonight one and four women say their financial situation is worse now than before the pandemic. many of them are working mothers considering down shifting their career or leaving the work force entirely. it is not just the covid pause but it becomes permanently. if you look at prepandemic levels, the last time the labor force for women was this low was 1988. that's more than a generation lost. out front now congresswoman katy porter of california, she's got three kids in school. she's a minivan-driving single mom. you have made this a big focus and you have been living it yourself. are you surprised that it is only one and four considering to down shifting their career or leaving the work force. >> we say one and four, we have to remember that's all women. if we were to narrow down to
look at women who are responsible for young children, the number would be much higher. and so we really see a sort of one segment of a generation of women who are being pushed out. i think the 25-years-old and kids going off to college, they need to be continue to work. we know they're leaving jobs or taking lower paying jobs with flexible schedule because they can't manage to be at two places at one time. >> she said i had to quit my job to home school my kids. my husband lost his job so i had to go back to work but the job i ended up getting has lower pay. congresswoman, the crucial question, will this situation change or can the government do something to change it? >> we definitely have to change our policies to help make this
equal and put them back to not where they were before but create a level plain field for people of color and our employment opportunities. absolutely it would make a difference if we had things like paid family leave. it would make a huge difference if we had universal pre-k and making child care affordable. they help employers and businesses and they create better workplaces and bigger and stronger and stable and globally compe competitive. these are pro-work and economic policies. >> all of it makes sense. all the solutions which are important do center around getting more care for children, right? so that parents are supported in working. what about mothers though who want to work and spend quality time with their children. are we sort of giving up on that
balance as a society? >> i think that every parent man or woman, ought to be able to ch charge their own path with regarding to working and being a c caregiver, we see a lot of families are squeezed financially, it take full-time workers particularly at lower wage jobs to be able to put food on the table. we see people rather than choosing what's best for them and their career and their family, economic necessities is driving people both to stay in the work force when they be better off leaving or to leave the work force when they want to stay. >> so, saw the census data, of course, democratic strongholds are losing house seats and trump states are gaining. these changes mean the house majority are in place. >> the reason why it is
different. the majority is in place because i believe it is. the democrats believe it too that's why they are going so far left knowing they are going to lose it. is he right? >> what we are trying to do is make sure the american people have what they need to get through this pandemic and put our economy on the footing to be able to grow. we are worried about what's happening to minimum wage workers. we are worried of what's happening to teachers and healthcare workers. we are not just thinking about big corporations or wealthy donors. we are thinking of the large swap of the americans and they need us to go big. this is the pandemic. it is created until we are rekof ever recovered. we need to make big investments. we are going big because the problem of our economy are seen big. >> congresswoman, i appreciate your time. thank you.
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tonight the cdc director making a big announcement on mask wearing outdoors. >> have mask requirements out outdoors if people are vaccinated, we no longer feel vaccinated people require masks outdoors. >> okay. outdoors. fully vaccinated can exercise, dine outdoor, small gatherings without a mask but they're making it clear it's not the same indoors and you should avoid indoor gatherings all together and outdoor events that are large. dr. jonathan reiner, cardiologist that advised under george w. bush. it affects the reality they had to do it. does it go far enough? >> no, it doesn't go far enough, erin. it doesn't really under score for americans is what the cdc
knows, which is that these vaccines induce immunity. the cdc published data last week on 87 million fully vaccinated americans and out of that giant number, there are about 5,000 symptomatic infections. that's .005% and of that 87 million fully vaccinated americans, there was 75 deaths. that's .0009%. so if you are vaccinated in this country, you are effectively immune but these guidelines tell you to avoid crowded malls and restaurants. they haven't really gone far enough. they really need to tell americans that if you are vaccinated, you are immune. >> so let me ask you about this. they're balancing a risk here. you're making the argument you got to give people more freedom because those are the facts and people know that and if you don't tell them that, it will erode public trust in the cdc and government and that's bad and on the other hand, you give people more freedoms, we're not
anywhere close to herd immunity. all these people that don't get vaccinated. they're not going to wear a mask because they're not vaccinated. a lot will take masks off and act like they are vaccinated and that's a risk. where do you balance those two things? >> right. so the problem that the cdc has is that we have two countries. we have vaccinated country and vaccinated countries immune and we have unvaccinated country and those folks are still very susceptible to this very bad infection and it's about 50/50 now. but if you tell people that you can do just about anything if you are vaccinated, that is telling people that you have confidence in the vaccines. what's the message to the country when you tell people who are fully vaccinated be wary of crowded locations? you're casting doubt on the efficacy of the vaccine and i don't think there is any doubt on the efficacy on these vaccines. >> does this put you more on the camp of vaccine passports?
there is forgery issues, et cetera. if i fake it, someone could call me out. i could be humiliated and shamed that that may be a way to prevent this free loading issue. >> right. i am totally for vaccine passports. that's how you fill up a broadway theater. theaters, you know, theater companies will not make money unless all the seats are filled and the only way to do that is to have fully vaccinated houses the only way to ensure that those folks are really vaccinated is to have some sort of, you know, legitimate evidence of that. look, the gop should be all for this. this is a probusiness initiative. this is how you fill restaurants and movie theaters and a broadway theaters. it's totally probusiness. this is how we get our economy back on track. >> dr. ryaner, thank you. >> my pleasure. next, the story a private school telling teachers if they get the vaccine, they will not be allowed in school. what?
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get the covid vaccines and banning the teachers from school if they do get vaccinated. the school debunked conspiracies as a justification. >> let's get more information and learn more about this. >> reporter: the ceo and co-founder of the school, a private school in miami is standing by her decision to try to stop faculty and staff from getting potentially life saving covid vaccinations. in a letter to faculty and staff, she tells teachers wanting vaccination to quote please wait until the school year ends and you will not be able to return to school until clinical trials are complete if a position is still available at that time. clinical trials in adults have been completed for all three vaccines to satisfy the fda's emergency requirements. she doesn't want students near anyone vaccinated against the coronavirus but her decision is based partly on unfounded claims about the shots.
>> we want more information. >> that's all we want. more information. >> reporter: have you looked at the fda and cdc and world health organization because they say this isfective. >> it's an experiment right now. >> reporter: the academy has some 300 students, 70 staff members and the school's website promotes medical freedom from mandated vaccines. >> a school like this in a community that seems to be very close knit, that could easily turn into an outbreak in a heart beat, just overnight and then all of these children would be at risk and everyone in the local community would also be at risk. >> reporter: during our interview and this letter she cited false claims including quote non-vaccinated people being negatively impacted by interacting with people who have been vaccinated. and falsely linking such interactions with a spike in miscarriages. the cdc has been watching for an increase in miscarriages among vaccinated people and has not
reported one. leyla santiago, cnn, miami. >> that is unbelievable. affecting menstrual cycles, wow. i can't even -- don't know where to start with this. thank you for joining us. don't forget. you can watch the show any time at cnn go. time to hand it off to anderson. simmering pot meet lid. john berman in for anderson. after days of failing to deliver transparency in the killing of brown, local officials decided the best course of action is a curfew as we speak is being broken by the looks of it. last night our senior law enforcement analyst and top fbi official said this about some of the frankly baffling responses he has seen so far from certain officials most notably the county sheriff. it really defies logic, he