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extremism. the kremlin was asked about this, the spokesman for vladimir putin said at this point they would not comment on this matter. however, as you can imagine, this trial is one that's very important here in russia. and certainly the organization believes it could be destroyed if it is indeed declared extremist. >> john. thank you, fred plight again in moscow for us. cnn's coverage continues right now. a very good monday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm poppy harlow. we begin this morning with a major turnaround and big signs of progress in the fight against the pandemic more than a year after the european union closed its borders shutting down non-essential the head of the commission now tells the "new york times" it will begin allowing fully vaccinated americans to visit europe this summer. this comes as sources tell cnn that tomorrow, the day before his first address to congress,
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president biden will also announce new cdc guidance on weather vaccinated people actually need to wear those masks outdoors. >> hints from dr. fauci that might be changing. these hopeful steps towards normalcy are coming at a pivotal time. the administration is warning that the pace of vaccinations could begin slowing down as more americans have already gotten vaccinated. the major ongoing challenge. millions of americans still hesitant to get their shots. more on the white house's plans to battle that. and johnson & johnson's one-shot vaccine is back on the table after a brief pause by the fda. but new data shows that a growing number of americans are now simply unwilling to take it. and that's where we begin. cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins us. this was the worry, a very small number of people having a bad reaction led to the pause. now a very large number of folks are too scared to take it. what do the numbers show us?
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>> jim, while we talk about why these numbers might not be as scary as they look. but first let's look at the numbers. this new poll showing 73% of respondents are not willing to take the johnson & johnson vaccine. these are unvaccinated people. they said i am not willing to get johnson & johnson. only 22% said they are willing. if these people have a choice, if there's enough moderna and pfizer out there, it is not necessarily such a big deal that people are unwilling to get johnson & johnson if there is enough moderna and pfizer out there. the issue is going to be, will there be areas of the united states where you can only get johnson & johnson? that becomes a problem. johnson & johnson is easier to transport. you don't have to keep it at these very low frozen temperatures. it's, you know, one and done. there are obvious advantages to it. if there are areas where that's all they have and those advantages don't help, people still tone want it, that's going to be a problem. >> it is, for sure. there is, show, it appears good
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news in the numbers in terms of people either vaccinated or willing to get vaccinated in the new poll? >> that's right. there's always been this big concern about vaccine hesitancy, that people aren't going to be willing to get it. let's look at this new poll and how these numbers are going in the right direction. this poll found that 74% of people were already vaccinated or were inclined to get vaccinated. that same number or metric back in january, it was 65%. that is good. some of the biggest jumps they are seeing are among republicans and latinos. those are two groups that have had quite a bit of vaccine hesitancy. over time, programs as they have seen friends getting vaccinated and they are fine and they are protected against covid maybe it has led them to believe they should also get vaccinated. . y, jim. >> thank you elizabeth. >> it is a good change. we were talking about as many as
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a third of americans didn't want to get vaccinated. it is down to about one in in four. just days after the cdc and the fda lefted the pause on johnson & johnson's one shot coronavirus vaccine cnn has learned that the u.s. has more than 9 million doses ready to be administered now across the country. >> paula sandoval joins us here in new york where they are restarting the administering of the j&j vaccine. really in new york at all of the state-run sites. is it clear when the sites will actually start giving out the doses? >> poppy, the state using the word immediately to describe how soon we can expect the see that johnson & johnson vaccine made available to people at least here in new york. just because some of the numbers suggest there might be a lack of interest doesn't necessarily mean that the state isn't going to go all out to try to make that vaccine available at var
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various places throughout new york including here at the javits center, where i got my johnson & johnson vaccine about three weeks ago. they are going to ramp up supplies to get millions of doses the j&j vaccine to the places where they are going to be administered. the state is hoping to address some vaccine hesitancy and concern by also telling new yorkers they are yet another layer of approval here in new york with the state's clinic cancal advisory task force considering the cdc and the fda's recommendation, considering that, and taking a look at this vaccine and concluding that it is safe for the majority of population to actually get that vaccine. they are definitely interested in getting that message out to people who may opt for that, who may consider getting the johnson & johnson vaccine. the message that the benefits will clearly outweigh the risks. the message hasn't changed here poppy and jim. get any vaccine that you can. in many case it may potentially have to be the j&j that's back and green lit yet again.
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>> thank you very much. for more on the news that fully vaccinated americans will be allowed to travel to europe starting this summer. >> that's a big change. cnn's pete muntean joins us now. this works in both directions, americans who want to go there, and also for european countries who want to welcome tourists back. >> it is great for the travel industry. the eu saying our vaccines are good enough, pfizer, j&j, and moderna all approved here for emergency use authorization also approved in the eu's 27 member nations. this is big because travel to the eu has been banned for non-essential travelers for more than a year. now the eu is saying pulling the vaccinated americans can start traveling to european nations by this summer. we still need to work out details. no exact timeline was offered by the eu. also, the use of vaccine passports needs to be ironed out. and the eu is clarifying saying
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each of its 27 individual member nations will be allowed to wave these rules individually. this will not be opening up travel to the eu all at once. but it is a huge development, one being acknowledged and celebrated by the white house. here's what they had to say. >> what the world is saying is they are looking a the u.s., at the success of our vaccination program, looking at the reduction in disease, and although while we are not done yet they are saying those americans are safe to come to our country without risk of spreading covid-19. think about that. that's incredible. just a few months ago we were the nation in the world that was one of the most cut off from travel. >> struggling airlines cannot wait for this. domestic, leisure travel is what has been up. the tsa says 1.57 million people passed through security at america's airports just yesterday. the normal number, around 2.5 million. what is missing is international travel, so lucrative for
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airlines they have already had their eyes on restrictions being relaxed to some nations for vaccinated travelers. united just added routes to croatia, greece, and iceland because of it. somes like we will see more of that coming soon now that the eu is relaxing restrictions. >> airports are crowded with the boom in domestic. tre. it will be interesting to see how they look with international travel coming back. >> li it's bring in dr. goldberg from the university of nebraska medical center. there was good news on covid which we just went over. and there is bad news in india, we will get to that in a moment. the cdc now says 8% of voeks who have received one shot of a vaccine have not gotten a second shot. they point to people not getting there on their own. but they also point to a problem
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with suppliers. what do people need to know this morning if they are among that group? >> we shouldn't be surprised because with any two-dose vaccine sequence there is always going to be logistical issues. what i mean by that, people miss appointments. they forget, their work or their travel gets in the way. and they need to reschedule. i think that's one important thing, that if you miss your day, it's not too late. there are certain parts of the world, such as canada, and parts of europe, that is that are waiting as long as ten and 12 weeks between these dose he is. people should show up and get their second dose. secondly, right now the cdc recommendations are to mirror your first dose. that is if you got a moderna shot you should get a moderna shot again. but there is research going on looking at what happens when you do mix and match. there actually may be some advantages to that. fortunately, most of this is logistics and a small amount of it is actually medical. that is to say people that have
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had a pretty severe reaction to their first dose, hopefully talked to their health care professional, got some advice and said well maybe i will wait a little bit longer for think second dose or wait until the booster shot comes out, which probably going to be in the summer or the fall. look at that figure and i see that 92% of people came back to get their second shot. it is not the worse thing, given the millions who have gotten their second shot. i want to talk about the importance of what happens outside the u.s. in terms of controlling or getting to the ends of this pandemic. you have many countries that don't have the same semias the u.s., europe included. india is going through a massive spike. the u.s. is spending supplies, vaccine, raw materials, to help them out. is that something the u.s. should be doing now? how important is getting to world herd immunity as opposed
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to just national herd immunity. >> it is critical to get the world herd immunity. our headlines have been filled with virus variants from the uk, from south africa. the mutations that are occurring creating potential resistance to the vaccines and the opportunity for americans citizens to be reinfected. given how global our world is, given the fact we are reopening international travel with american citizens going to all parts of europe for either tourism or business getting this global pandemic behind success going to be key, clearly focusing first on those that we know and love and work with here in the states. but once we have a reasonable amount of that behind us we need to look at the evident are of the world very carefully and do as much as we can scientifically and also trying to provide materials if we can. >> to jim's point, i mean, this is global. what is reasonable? because 6,000 plus people died
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from covid in independent why over the weekend. yesterday, 353,000 people in india contracted it. and it is a sad irony that that are -- that country is the biggest maker of vaccines in the world. they want the u.s. to send them actual produced vaccine. astrazeneca, that is sitting in warehouses now because it is not approved here yet. should the u.s. be doing that now? today? >> i think depending on what our supplies look like -- and we can look at that three, four, six weeks ahead and our projections for getting to the so-called herd immunity which we all talk about which is interest between 70 and 80% of our population. if we have excess vaccine i think it is a humanitarian and reasonable thing to do. no different frankly than what we did when we were treating ebola in western africa. when we were treating zika in the southern hemisphere. it is the humanitarian thing to
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do. and when we have the technology and accurate amount of supply to do so, we should certainly try. >> viruses know no borders. before we go, we know the president will announce new mask guidelines forrious doors in particular. hinting from dr. fauci over the weekend that the president will relax these. what do you expect? is now the right time to do that? >> well, you know, it all depends upon weather people are really going to be responsible. that is to say, if they follow the new guidelines. if they don't require masking or certain distances. you know, people follow the rule of three to six. that is to say, if you are outside, more than six feet apart from somebody else, you don't need to wear a mask. it is sort of a two out of three rule as we like to refer to it. but it does sem to be reasonable. we know there is less viral transmission that occurs outside. as the weather is getting warmer i think we want to encourage people to be outside and bet
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this part of their life back. i am optimistic and hopeful that he does announce that. ? we will be watching. dr. jeffrey gold, thanks very much. >> my pleasure. still to come this hour president biden closing in on his first 100 days in office. as he prepares to address a joint session of congress this week, how do his accomplishments stack up with his predecessors. also the family of a black man shot and killed by police could have the chance the finally see the body camera footage of that shooting today. we will have a live report on andrew brown jr., that shooting, from north carolina, ahead. goin. yes someday i'm going to marry you. someday we'll buy that little place on ellsworth. some days, will be rougher than others. ♪ someday, 50 years will have gone by, and i'll ask you to marry me, all over again.
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president biden as he nears 100 days in office. on weed night he will give his first presidential address to a joint session of congress. it is a speech that he has attended eight times as president obama's vice president and six times as a lawmaker. now it is his turn. >> with us now, dana bash and drug lass bri-- douglas brinkle. thanks to both of you. doug, there is a narrative out there as we come to the ends of 100 days but also look ahead to other priorities that biden is reversing reaganism, in effect, going back to the '80s, the idea that government is the problem. and now that actually a lot of these things are popular across parties that he's doing, covid relief, prince, infrastructure, even some tax hikes that he talks about. and i wonder if you believe it's
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too early to say that? do you think this is substance behind it? does the polling back it up. >> the polling shows that joe biden is doing well, at 53% overall. that's remarkable compared to where donald trump was. normally, though, during the first hundred days we give presidents big honey moons. they rack up approval ratings in the 60s and seven percents. we are not seeing that with joe biden, which reminds us what a deeply divided countries we are. but i think history is going to look well on what joe biden has done. he has evened the temperature of our country. he calmed things down. he responded with dignity after the horror of the january 6 insurrection. he works daily with kamala harris, historic first person of color as vice president. he's pulling us out of afghanistan. was able to start really getting shots in arms. i mean, the covid rollout, all
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things considered, are going very well under joe biden. failures with immigration, but overall, it has been a remarkable 00 days with joe biden, and they should be proud of where they are. they have got their cabinet by and large confirmed, which is also a good thing. >> now, arguably, the even harder, politically harder work begins, right, dana. on $4 trillion in money that he would like to spend to diminish some of they big goals go. i know somebody that the a great interview with vice president kamala harris. that's you. watching it on state of the union yesterday, this struck me, what she said about biden and his presidency. here it is. >> this is a president who has an extraordinary amount of courage. he is someone who i have seen over and over again make
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decisions based on what he truly believesed, based on his years of doing this work and studying these issues, what he truly believes is the right thing to do. and i am going to tell you something about him. he is acutely aware that it may not be politically popular or advantageous for him personally. it's really something to see. >> so that would indicate that maybe this is going to be the high point, dana of his approval rating and he's going to push through stuff anyways that might bring that down, but he thinks it's right to do. >> perhaps. you know, that's an interesting way to look at it, poppy. you know, what specifically the vice president was talking about there was the president's decision to pull all u.s. military forces out of afghanistan by september 11th, 2021, 20 years after 9/11. what she was talking about was a response to my question about
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whether she was the last person in the room before he made that decision. because that was one of the really important criterion for joe biden when he was deciding to pick as his running mate. and she said she was. and then she went on to describe how he approached the decision. because it wasn't -- certainly wasn't popular with members of the military. i think that's what she was trying to say there. maybe more popular with the large swath of the american people who are and continue to be a bit war weary. but i thought that was really telling as to what their relationship is like as it has built on itself over the past 100 days. >> dana, if we were on a different network now or on different facebook pages, the number one issue that folks would associate with biden is the situation at the border. right? it is described repeatedly as a crisis by those. we are talking about 40, 50% of
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the country right there. and of course kamala harris with a central role in responding to that. how much is that surge at the border affecting biden's standing 100 days in? and does he have a way out? >> it is affecting him. that is certainly one of the things -- one of the issues that at least public polling -- i am guessing that's true for their private polling shows is hurting him the most when you look at the kind of, you know, the table of crises that he is dealing with or the challenges he is dealing with. the vice president has been tasked with dealing with not so much the children at the border and some of the horrible images that we have seen or at least we hope to see and we know about going on at the border, but trying to deal with the root cause of that going to the
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northern triangle countries which she told me she is going to try to do as soon as she can and trying to deal in a diplomatic way. i thought it was interesting as part of our conversation, jim, that she was very, very intentional about saying that this is a long term problem, that this is a long term strategy to try to deal with the problem, and it's not going to happen overnight. really lowering expectations for how she defines success. >> you, douglas, have really compared what we are going the hear frommed bien on wednesday to president kennedy, and his accuracy calling for a man on the moon. really? are we going to get a big surprise from biden? yl do you think the two are really in tandem here? >> well, they are not really in tandem. a point i made to a journali was that on may 25th, 1961 kennedy came a little bit later into the beginning of his administration and went to the joint session of congress and said we are going to put a man on the moon by the
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end of the decade and nobody believed it because it is just a big government idea. except kennedy went and found the money. and the point i was making is i think that it is great that joe biden is talking about all of these big projects. there are going to be jobs, and infrastructure, and climate, but hasn't -- he has to get congress aboard. so when he speaks to the nation this week, he's got to the try to be making sure that people like murkowski and sass and collins and romney and others are -- he's drawing them in and at the very least keeping the more moderates in the democratic party in line. big projects cost a lot of money and you would like to do it in a bipartisan way. the moon shot was that. let's see if biden can do something that gets even a little bit of republican support. >> if he is sending someone to mars, i am going on that trip. let's make that clear. let's make that clear to the
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the family of andrew brown jr. a black man shot and killed by deputies in north carolina last week, will meet with the pasquotank county. >> the county sheriff says he does expect to get confirmation today to file a court motion to have the footage made public. we go to elizabeth city. the family has been waiting a long time, the better part of a week to be able to see it.
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there the d.a. says they need a court order to release to it the public. does it look like that will help publicly. >> reporter: that's a great question, poppy. that's what everyone is waiting to finds out. first, it's more likely that the family may get to view this video privately today during their meeting at 11:30. so there are a number of people outside the building right now, outside the public safety here gathered to support the family. and they have been walking around, marching peacefully, saying no justice, no peace. and they have actually brought out their folding chairs. they are prepared that this could take a while. as far as the court filings to have the video released publicly. you are going to see that coming from probably several entities. you mentioned the sheriff. the city council also is filing a motion. and a coalition of news organizations including cnn are also formally filing to petition for the release of that video. you mentioned here in north carolina it does require a court order and the mayor of elizabeth
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city was discussing that on "new day" this morning. >> permansonal personally, i th after 24, 48 hours the investigation should be at a point that they can share more with the public. because the longer that there is no transparency or accountability, the public gets i think a shusz. >> she and some others have talked about wanting to change this law. right now, there is a senate bill in the state legislature addressing this. unclear how far that will go. right now seven sheriff's deputies are an administrative leave. they were the ones involved in wednesday's event. and two more sheriff's deputies resigned. a third retired at this point. so a lot of tension here in the community. and we are also hearing from the chairman of the county commission calling for patience in the community, saying that
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ignoring north carolina law is irresponsible. poppy and jim. >> natasha, thank you very much for that reporting. well, in virginia, a man is fighting for his life this morning after being shot ten times by a sheriff deputy just an hour after that same deputy gave him a ride home. >> shot ten times. attorneys for a isaiah brown say a communication failure led to the shooting after the deputy returned to respond to a 911 call placed by brown. state officials say the deputy mistook the cell broen brown was holding for a gun. and then fired ten times. here is part of the deputy's body cam video. like all of these videos, it's disturbing. >> drop the gun! >> he's got a gun to his head. >> drop the gun now. 1207 walking towards me. stop walking towards me. stop, some [ gunfire ] >> it wasn't a gun.
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it was a cell phone. cnn has been following the story. do officials have an explanation for why he made this decision? and what is the status this officer now. >> not quite yet, jim. of course this is being investigated by a special state prosecutor there in virginia x. the deputy that fired all those shots at brown he's on administrative leave right now. you just showed you viewers the body cam video. there was also a 911 call with dispatchers that was released to the public. i want to go through that with you because it gives more insight into possibly what happened and gives a little bit more answers, maybe. essentially, the deputy was arriving for a domestic disturbance call n. that 911 call with dispatchers, brown threaten tosz kill his brother when talking with the dispatcher. and the dispatcher asks, do you have a gun? and brown answers yes. the dispatcher asking, well is the gun on you and brown
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essentially says no. so he's unarmed at this point according to this 911 call. then brown walks out into the street and you can actually hear the dispatcher tell brown put your hands up, put your hands up as you hear the sirens of the deputy arriving. that's where this picks up. >> isaiah, are you holding your hands up? put your hands up. >> show me your hands now. show me your hands. group the gun! drop the gun now. stop walking towards me. stop walking towards me. stop, stop. [ gunfire ] . >> just shot him. >> show me your hands. show me your hands! drop the gun! drop the gun! >> just as disturbing to hear as it is to see. now, according to the brown family attorney, as you guys said, the medical report shows
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that he was shot ten times. the deputy did perform cpr after firing those shots. but we now know that isaiah brown is in the hospital in serious condition fighting for his life though with non-life threatening injuries according to the latest report. but the brown family attorney essentially says guys that this could have been completely avoided that there was really this breakdown of communication between the dispatcher and the deputy arriving on the scene. at what point did they have to go so far to fire the shots? in a statement the lawyer says the deputy in question made multiple basic policing errors and violated established proelt calls. the deputy was situated nearly 50 feet from isaiah, was never threatened and should have never discharged his weapon. of course these are the questions that they want answers to. amid this huge conversation across the country as to why police sake the actions they are taking particularly in neighborhoods of color against
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unarmed black men. >> it was more than miscommunication. he flat out mistook one of these for a gun. second time we have seen that on police video in recent times. thanks very much. thank you. hospitals across india are in the middle of a devastating situation. severe oxygen shortages, as this country breaks the daily global covid record for the fifth straight day. up next, how the biden administration says it is going to help the country with the surge, and what they are not doing right now.
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right now, india is fighting another vicious wave of
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coronavirus. it is killing thousands of people in that country every day. the second wave, which began in march, has escalated now rapidly. look at jump there on the graph. the south asian nation recorded more than a million new cases in the span of just three days. >> for the past two weeks, medical facilities across india have been running oults of oxygen, running outs of icu beds. patients have been left to die at home or outside of hospitals just waiting to get in. now international efforts to tackle this crisis are ramping up. but is it too late? our senior international correspondent ivan watson joins us now. it is dech stating. it is so -- you sit in a country like the united states, where anyone can get a vaccine who wants one this morning. and look what's happening in india. >> that's right. i mean, the vaccine -- the vaccination process had begun there. health care workers for example, getting first priority. but that hasn't been enough to help a country that is really
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stricken by the ferocity of the pandemic in this second wave, where everybody i have spoken to in india is dealing with loved ones who are sick and struggling to find supplies like oxygen or an icu bed for their loved ones, including a producer working for cnn who lost an uncle in the last 48 hours and was trying to find a hospital bed for that relative. i just got off the phone with a princeton university epidemiologist in new delhi who told me he had lost cousins and couldn't find oxygen for a 42-year-old colleague of his there. and also telling us that the numbers of the mortality right now where you are having close to 3,000 deaths a day, that he estimates that they are much lower, what is being reported than in actuality. we are hearing anecdotally about
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crematoriums working around the clock. with the traditional burning of body ceremony in india, they can't keep up with the sheer number of people succumbing to disease. people dying gasping for breath outside of hospitals because there is no oxygen to provide them, and no beds for them either. listen to what one individual in new delhi had to say. >> announcer: my father is 70 years old. last night i purchased an oxygen cylinder on the black market. it is already empty. oxygen cylinders around even available on the black market right now. >> the government announced plans to create moore than 500 oxygen-generating plants around the country. we will see how fast they can ramp that up. the defense -- top defense official has announced that they are calling up retired medical personnel from the military who retired within the last two years to deploy them to help with the crisis.
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one of the bottle necks seems to be the transporting of oxygen with health officials insisting there is enough there, but we are hearing hospitals as they issue their desperate tweets on line saying that their deliveries of oxygen tanks are being held up at points -- checkpoints and so on. it is a really desperate situation right now. the biden administration is promising and pledging assistance to help them through this crisis. >> they could send the astrazeneca vaccine that we have in this country to india as well. that's a key decision the administration is going to need to make. that could save a lot of lives. ivan, thank you very much. let's turn now to the white house. jeremy diamond is there. the biden administration are vowing to send additional support including raw materials of the vaccine so india can make it. by the way, india gave the u.s. a lot of ppe supplies and so on early on in the pandemic. how far is the biden administration willing to go? >> that's right, jim. the national security adviser to
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the president, jake sullivan spoke with his counterpart over the weekend in india and pledged several means of support. let me read you the statement. the united states has identified supplies of therapeutics, rapid diagnostic kits, ventilators and personal protective equipment that will be immediately made available for india. the united states is also pursuing oxygen generation and supplies on an urgent basis just as india sent assistance to the united states as our hospitals were strained early in the pandemic the u.s. is determined to help india in its time of need. the u.s. and india are the two countries with the highest numbers of total confirmed coronavirus cases. you are going to see also raw materials being provided to indian manufacturers of its covid vaccine. u.s. investment as well in the main manufacturer of vaccines in india in terms of financial
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investments. as well as cdc, public health teams, that will be headed to india to advise the indian government on its response to the coronavirus. in all of this what you are seeing not, which is something poppy just mentioned. you are not seeing the u.s. sending doses of the astrazeneca coronavirus vaccine over to india. the u.s. is currently sitting on a stockpile of tens of millions of those doses. we have only lent so far about 4 million dose to our neighbors, mexico and canada. but none of the other doses have been sent to any other countries. officials tell us that that is something that is indeed being discussed at the white house. but as of yet, they are not sending those doses abroad. we will have to wait and see whether they go that extra step in providing critical assistance to india. >> it is a global pandemic. you don't end it until you get global herd immunity.
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where gun rights in our country are questioned. this is a case out of new york. it's a law that governs licenses to carry concealed handguns in public. so this law in new york, it requires residents to show what they call an actual and articular need to carry the concealed guns. it's a very high bar. two of the men denied licenses, they fought this. the lower court said that new york could put this restriction in place but now it will go all the way up to the supreme court. so this is interesting. we have seen several justices in recent years speaking out about how the supreme court should be taking up a second amendment case. we heard from justice clarence thomas. he wrote that he believes the second amendment has become a disfavored right. and supporters of gun rights in addition to the conservative justices here, of course, the newest justice, also a conservative, amy coney barrett, she wrote a majority opinion when on the seventh circuit that talked about the historical
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right to bear arms. so many are viewing that as amy coney barrett having this broad view of the second amendment. but crucially, guys, the lower court did uphold this new york state law that made it difficult to get this license to carry concealed weapons in public. we'll see when it comes down to the supreme court how they view the second amendment now since, poppy, as you mentioned, it has been just about a decade since they ruled on the second amendment. we won't hear this case until the start of next term in october. so we'll see. >> by the way, these justices were vetted and picked by republican president and his supporters to be liberal on the second amendment issue. the courts, you know, the makeup of the court makes a difference here. >> it does. 6-3 conservative, guys. >> jessica, thank you. we'll be right back. if these beautiful idaho potato recipes are just side dishes, then i'm not a real idaho potato farmer. genuine idaho potatoes not just a side dish anymore. always look for the grown in idaho seal.
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