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>> reporter: your view is the key to get back to the fun is being vaccinated. drop the gun now. stop, stop! >> calls for an accountability after an unarmed black man is shot by deputy. >> we got to put an end to these moments where the public questions where there is going to be accountability. >> there is no question that the american people in a bipartisan way realize and want that there will be some reform of the system. millions of americans who got the first shot of the vaccine are missing their second dose. >> we are still having 60,000 of infections per day. that's a precarious level, we don't want that to go up.
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i am pamela brown in washington, welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." we begin with a candid confession, the lead prosecutor in the trial against disgraced ex-cop derek chauvin says he was never convinced he was going to win the case until the verdict was finally read. live with the details, arienne. >> reporter: like many minnesotans and black americans across the country. keith ellison experienced disappointments multiple times. ellison led the prosecution in the derek chauvin's trial. in the 60-minute interview tonight he revealed publicly that he had doubts about the case. >> was there ever a time that you thought you could lose this
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case? >> i was never convinced that we are going to win this case until we heard the verdict of guilty. >> i remember what happened in the rodney king's case when i was a young man. i remember how devastated i felt when i heard the jury acquitted with those officers. particularly when the victim is a person of color. it is just rare that there is any accountability. there was every moment of this case, i thought what are we missing? what have we not done? >> reporter: ellison and the team he assembled worked over an 11-month period. their job showcasing that video and explaining what happened in that video where we see and hear george floyd pleading for his life on that video, we hear according to ellison, floyd say at least 27 times he could not
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breathe. ellison said in the interview that he and his team had to pull acts as if they did not have any video. >> when you first heard the word guilty, you thought what? >> gratitude. humility followed by a certain sense of satisfaction. it is what we were aiming for the whole time. i spent 16 years as a criminal lawyer, i felt a little bad for the defendant, he deserved to be convicted but he's a human being. >> somehow i did not expect to hear from you a note of compassion for derek chauvin. >> i am not in any way for my responsibility but i hope we never forget that people who are definitive in the justice system
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that they're human beings. they're people. george floyd was a human being. t i am not going to forget everybody in this process is a person. >> reporter: i was not surprised by attorney ellison's compassion, it speaks to his character and also a corner stone of his faith. meanwhile tonight derek chauvin is behind bars. he's scheduled for sentencing in june. pamela. >> all right, adrienne broudus, thank you so much. happening now, days after officers found guilty murdering george floyd. protesters are marching in los angeles and demanding for justice for all victims. paul, what are people telling you and what message do they want to send tonight? >> reporter: the message they're sending and they're marching
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right now in los angeles, the message they are sending is yes, this was a verdict they wanted very much. they were thrilled to hear about it. they say this is just the start. as we look ahead, you can see they have taken up the entire side of third street, this is near the grove shopping center in los angeles. they want to watch what's going to happen with the george floyd's sentencing. they want to make sure he gets a severe sentence. they say they are watching all these other officers involved shootings around the yateunited states and they're calling for reform. >> go ahead, we would like to ask you about that. >> you can hear he was chanting abolition. >> they shout abolition and you say reform. we do not need police.
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>> reporter: they want the complete defunding of police and that's again one of the opinions. we heard a lot of the george floyd's sentencing as i told you and in fact one of the protesters said they were wishing he was not in a protective custody situation that he was among the general population so that he would get what's coming to him. pam, we are going down third street here in los angeles and started in pacific park. this is where very late last may we saw a riot of break out and a sta standoff. reported from los angeles, i am paul. >> the family of a black man shot and killed by deputies in north carolina may have a chance to watch body cam footage
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tomorrow. few details have been released of the shooting of andrew brown. seven deputies have been placed on leave. the sheriff says he plans to file a court notion to get the footage released to the public. the trial for the former police officer charged for the connection of breonna taylor's shooting has been postponed until next year. she was shot and killed in her own home during a raid march of 2020. no charges have been brought in her death. former officer brett hankinson is charged endangering other people. his trial day has to be pushed back because of backlog of trials during the pandemic.
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a police officer shooting claims the officer mistook the phone he was holding for a gun and coming up, i am going to ask arkansas republican governor, what meaningful police and gun law reforms looked like. new in japan tonight. the faith of the olympics are uncertain. >> president biden's big moment as he prepares to plant his flag and lay out his agenda at an historic speech in congress. chris illiza is up next.
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plan. he hopes to pass the slimmest of majority in the senate. chris icillizza is joining us. thanks for being with us this sunday instead of watching the oscars right now. >> we have actually seen a lot of action the first 100 days. joe biden is setting a mark on covid-19 vaccines and meeting i. the rest of his presidency, the first 100 days we have focused on. the rest of his presidency candidly is going to be more challenging at least legislatively speaking. you mentioned been the majority. joe manchin can kill one way or another and decide how legislation goes. he's got to do more convincing.
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he would love to have a few things bipartisan, the $2 trillion that's going to be proposed. what you saw the first 100 days was things he could do and they can pass this stimulus bill because they had 50 votes for it. he could rescind a lot of things donald trump did and rejoin the paris climate accord, for example, and the world health organization. the next rest of his presidency, at least first term is going to be can he convince people, democrats and republicans in the senate and the house to get on board with an agenda that he can sign and make happen. >> how does he do that with republicans in particular when he has this plan for one, calling for higher taxes on the wealthiest americans to combat child care and taxes. >> it is going to be high. the corporate tax rate is going
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to be down, too. business world is going to fight in the infrastructure planning. joe biden came into office, pam, and ran and spent most of his senate career sort of a pragmatic deal maker. he was the guy in the administration when he was vp who would cut deals with mitch mcconnell to keep the government open. can he play that role as president after this 100 days and with a republican party that is still absolutely loyal to donald trump who by the way continues to fight election results and places like arizona. we are talking about joe biden's first 100 days in office. i think the issue here is joe biden, the incentive for republicans to cooperate with joe biden is very low. the disenincentive is very high because donald trump can attack them. that's something joe biden can't
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control. he can't control how republicans think working with them. that's why the next 200 or 300 days are going to be a lot more challenging for him. the first 100 days dealing with covid was hugely challenging, but challengeing in a different way. >> and democrats view as the white house knows that things could change in 2022. they don't have a lot of time to try to get these -- go ahead. >> well, look, if history is a guide and i always say because donald trump gotten elected may have broken history, at least we think of it in terms of politics. >> that's a good point. >> political history is a guide, the first midterm election of a president, 2022 for joe biden almost sees significant house seat losses. democrats don't have a lot of
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seats they can lose in the house to lose the majority. if they lose any seats in the senate, they lose the majority. liberals really want to get everything possible done between now and november 2022. they know history is a guide, they'll have split control of republicans and democrats. 2023 will complicate anything getting done between then and the 2024 election. you have to think ahead nz politics. if you are planning it out -- it absolutely does. >> thank you for breaking it down for us, chris sycillizza. thank you for coming on. well, tonight, a virginia family demanded more answers
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an unarmed black man in virginia was shot and seriously wounded. isaiah brown remains in serious condition after he was shot ten times by a deputy. the same deputy given brown a
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ride home an hour earlier and returned to respond to a domestic incident. you can hear dispatcher instructing brown to hold his hands up and that's where this audio picks up. >> are you holding your hands up? put your hands up. >> show me your hands now. >> drop the gun! drop the gun now! show me your hands. drop the gun, drop the gun. >> a family's attorney claims the deputy mistook brown holding
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a hand phone. >> drop d the gun. >> he's got a gun to his head. stop walking towards me. stop! family attorneys are calling on the county sheriff's office to release audio between their dispatcher and the department. the deputy's identity has not been released. tonight congress hayes is joining us. first, congresswoman, thank you for coming on the show and sharing your time with us. i want to ask you about this latest event of an unarmed black man in virginia. the deputy mistook brown's phone for a gun before shooting him ten times. we need more information and evidence to back this up.
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i want to get your reaction to what we have seen and the 9 11 call. >> thank you for having me, i was not aware of this shooting. the frequency that we are seeing on our black men killed by police is jarring. but, on a case by case basis, ii was not aware of the last incident that you just showed. >> i know you were aware of the george floyd's case and what happened with derek chauvin who was convicted in the murder of george floyd. you released a statement following the verdict. "justice was articulated through accountability and a moment of reflection for our entire country. tomorrow we resume the work and recommend ourselves biluilding more just nation."
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. what's the next step? >> i didn't even realized i was internalizing that i was preparing for a not guilty verdict. i didn't realize it but leading up to it, a range of emotions. so when the guilty verdict came out, there was just a moment of reflection. i realized that so many people in this country just expect for eve even though we are waiting for the verdict to be had, none of that will matter. moving forward, that's why the work that we do is so important. we have to pass the justice policing act for reform and training and accountability to make sure that there is an amicable relationship and a working relationship between law enforcement and our communities. i say that from an intimate perspective. i have three black sons and my husband is 25 years on the police force.
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i don't take any of this work lightly. i know how difficult his work is but as a mother, i can't imagine the pain of losing a child to this kind of violence. >> so if you would to ask more personal questions on that, what is it like for you? what has it been like for you watching these videos, unarmed black men being shot by police as a mother of three sons. what is it like for you and feel like? >> it is difficult to articulate. this is a conversation that i had with my staff. i am a mother. i am a mother of black sons. it is impossible for me to explain to you what this feels like. one of the things i worry about in the time that it takes for my children to identify themselves or even my husband to identify he's law enforcement or holding firearm or carrying a gun, in
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the second that it takes in this culture that we are in, there could be an incident of violence. those are the types o f things that are deeply disturbing to me. the frequency of what we are seeing these incidents happening. it is on a daily basis. we could not get through to george floyd's trial. we were waiting for r the verdict when the daunte wright's case came out. the residual trauma that's coming as a result of this is unbearable. we have to pass justice and policing to reform our law enforcement departments and to give them the support they need and to rebuild the trust that we have within our communities. >> i want to ask you about guns before we let you go. the u.s. has seen more than 45 mass shootings since the middle of march. . so far though, no gun reform laws passed in congress. when will this country see bipartisan gun reform legislation become law?
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>> we have to do it now. it is long past time that this needs to happen. any conversation about common sense gun reform is seen as a second amendment rights. i support the second amendment, i think that legal gun owners should be able to do that respons responsibly. if ifyou are going to own a gun you have to store it s responsibly. there is a mandate right now. we have to be able to pass legislation in a bipartisan way. people should not have to choose between supporting the second amendment or keeping the community safe. we can't do both. we have to have a comprehensive approach. in 2021, we already had 1559
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mass shootings. anybody who sees this as politics is not looking at and not'i not seeing what i am seeing. we currently don't event collect data on school shootings because people say that's an attack on second amendment rights. it is not. these are what responsible gun owners want, 90% of the people in this country agree with background checks. this should be bipartisan and it has to happen now. >> all right, congresswoman jahana hayes, thank you for the discussion. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. coronavirus surges are hitting country like india so hard right now. will the u.s. send vaccines to those places. i ask the covid respond team for that. his answer is next. buy a car-- get this-- from their couch.
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we are learning the defense department will provide support for india for covid response. i spoke to andy slavic and i pressed him on why one critical item is not on the list of supplies. >> i want to ask you about the world event with india dealing with a spike in covid. they were all apart of the release plan. what about vaccines in india. only 1.59 of their population is vaccinated. will the administration will release some to india and other countries struggling right now. >> the u.s. is back in the global stage.
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we are back leading. we are in a position increasingly where we are more confident that americans are going to have the vaccines they need. once that's the case, we always said we are going to make sure that we turn our attention to make sure we help the world. we are not going to be only to fund the vaccines, we unilaterally given the vaccines to two countries. we'll be manufacturing and exporting vaccines and creating jobs here in the u.s. india that are hot spots, our national security team, usad, we are in constant communication ws them, figuring out their needs. i think you will continue to see the announcement you saw today as a major step forward and some of the things we are doing to help india in short term and long-term. >> i want to circle back on vaccines, is there a plan right now to send those astrazeneca vaccines, some of them to india? >> when we made the decisions on what we are going to do with additional vaccines of exporting them, we'll announce them.
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we are not going to announce anything here. we are in constant communications and evaluating all these options. understand that we got teams of people working on it. >> it sounds like it is under discussion is what i am hearing from you. >> everything is under the table, absolutely. >> today india confirmed nearly 350,000 new coronavirus cases. that's a world record since the start of the pandemic and the results is india's healthcare system is collapsing. hospitals are over loaded and experiencing widespread shortages of basic medical supplies. the country is running short on oxygen and some hospitals are rationing oxygen for patients while others have simply run out of it all together. just horrible. and, coronavirus variants are also putting japan in a tight spot, the olympics were to begin in july but four new areas are
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under a new state of emergency and few citizens have been evacuated. >> reporter: the tokyo olympics is three months away. the country is struggling to contain the fourth wave. the prime minister declared another state of emergency in tokyo and other prefectures. japan may be one of the most technologically advanced country on the planet but it has struggled to roll out the vaccines. japan vaccinated less than 1% of their people. only 17% of healthcare workers viaed two shots. just 0.1% has had a single dose. >> do you this ink the olympics should be cancelled? >> if you had to predict when japan's population will be fully
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vaccinated, how long is it going to be? >> given the time past, it would take ten years or something? >> officials have blamed european exports for the delay. red tape and poor planning and vaccine hesitancy have held the country back. >> reporter: a key reason is japan's slow approval process. the country requires additional trials of the vaccines. so far it only approved pfizer. japan has one of the lowest rate of vaccine confidence in the world drirven by a vacseries of vaccine scandals. >> reporter: japanese olympic hopefuls, the slow roll-out is leading to mounting anxiety.
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73-years-old is about to be in her olympic games. a competition she's risking her life for. >> i prepare to die under these circumstances but i don't want to die of covid. >> reporter: the qualifiers for paralympics table tennis are weeks away. she called her local health center many times and still have no plan to provide vaccines. officials projected unwaiving confidence. >> president biden expressed support. >> reporter: the question is what kind of symbol of the olympics will be if japan is unable to protect their citizens. cnn, tokyo. arkansas's governor
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to the republican governor's desk but he vetoed it. nice to see you, thank you for being on the show. >> it is great to be with you. >> explain your veto decision knowing your state is going toover ride it and they're going to do it tomorrow. walk us through it. >> first of all, i identify completely with the concerns expressed by the legislature that they're worried the biden administration and washington is going to come along and pass more restrictions on gun ownership that they believe and i believe would violate the second amendment. that's the reason whether it is arizona orm montana or other states considering these laws ch the reason i vetoed it because the bill before me went too far. it would criminalize a law enforcement officer, a state and
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local officer who rcooperated with federal authorities and it would remove their immunity as well. so that would destroy our task forces and our cooperation and partnership that's so essential. that element was not in the bill. i think it is important to note that the reason to veto was this bill went too far and would hurt law enforcement and penalize them unnecessarily and would really hurt public safety. the other thing is that this illustrates the worry that's out there and real americans, states like arkansas about the effort to further restricts second amendment rights. i hope we can reach a compromise and expresses the frustration and does some good on protection but does not go too far. >> let's talk more about that. i want to get you're views on the background check bill that's in front of the senate right
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now, passed in the house. do you think it should be passed or no? >> no. i don't. i don't believe that's the answer to the violent crime that we see across america. we always should ask the funld question when you are considering an idea, will it make a difference? we do believe an effective back background check. and so to modify that, i don't believe will be helpful. when luke at the other proposals on there, limitations on magazine capacity, these are things gun owners utilized. we don't need to burden them with further restrictions and that's where i don't see them going anywhere. >> i want to talk more of the background checks specifically, you were saying it won't make a
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difference. >> if it could make a difference to cut down mass shooting, if it could prevent a gun ending up in criminal's hands, would it be worth it? >> as you note that's what this bill is trying to close, that loophole where they would have to be a background check. the public widely supports this. so why would you support something that the public supports and could keep guns out of hands of criminals. >> you can look for better ways to do it. when you are looking at real estate and you want to transfer owner shoich a firearm to a neighbor, should you have to go 30 miles down the road to define a license firearm dealer to check the transaction. that's a burden on gun ownership and it is a burden on
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responsible citizen. criminals are always going to get the firearms they want. they can steal them and get them off the black market and they can get those and so you are putting a burden on average citizens and and not keeping out of the hahns of criminals. what we got to do is make sure data is in and checks are in and make sure we concentrate on health issues. >> i want to talk about this. criminals are going to find a gun in any which way. it has one of the highest rates of gun deaths per 100,000 people. so for your argument protecting the second amendment, what do you say to those who would come back to you and argue oh, did we
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the oscars are underway and winners are being announced. chloe melas is joining me. >> hey there pamela, listen, we have been anticipating this since the oscars was pushed back two months because of covid-19 pan pandemic. it is a much more intimate scale down ooevening. i want to talk first about regina king. she spoke about the derek chauvin's trial. listen, people don't like it when celebrities got political but i am not sorry. >> i have to be honest if things have gone differently this past week in minneapolis, i may have to trade in my heels for marching boots. now, i know that a lot of you people at home want to reach for your remote when you feel hollywood is preaching to you, as a mother of a black son, i
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know the fear that so many live with and no amount of fame or fortune changes that. >> her movie is actually nominated this year, pamela, "one night in miami," there is no host this year. i talked to billy crystal who said it is a mistake to not have a host. regina did a great job carrying us through the first part of the show. there has been some big wins tonight. i want to tell you about best supporting actor for "judas and the black messiah, daniel kaluuya. he paid tribute to hamilton in his speech. his mother was crying. a special touching moment. >> this year is different because of the pandemic. did the award ceremony live up to the hype this different ceremony? >> i hate to be critical but i
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have been waiting for this as an entertainment reporter and i was told this is going to be like a movie and so far they have not played any clips of movies. they're just talking about the movies and award shows past we watched clips of the movies who have been nominated. ratings have been down the past few years. there is a big push to get people back to theaters. that's their big message tonight that hopefully it will be safe for people to go back to theaters when they open near you. >> all right, chloe, we all hope that. thanks so much. appreciate you coming on tonight. st >> thank you. >> we want to leave you with this on this sunday. nasa's dynamic duo, hardest work on mars.
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the rover beaming back images. nasa is testing their helicopter and trying to determine how feasible the flying is. and don't forget that you can tweet me at pamela brown @cnn and be sure to follow me on ins de instagram. i am pamela brown and i will see you again next weekend. " "united shades of america is up next."
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this is jared, he's high on mushrooms. he starts fighting with cops and he grabs the gun and he shoots it. he makes it out alive. this is white privilege. if that idea bothers you, let's just call it benefit s of the doubt. those cops gave jared the benefit of the doubt that his life matters even if he takes his gun. cops killed tami rice within two seconds. in this episode, we are talking
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