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welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." we just witnessed a very powerful funeral service for daunte wright, the young man man killed by a police officer
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during a traffic stop in brooklyn center, minnesota. family and friends remembered wright as a caring man with a contagious laugh. his mother said her son had a smile that was worth a million dollars that would be missed by so many. growing questions tonight about the deadly police shootings of two other african-americans this week. authorities in columbus, ohio, have just released additional body camera footage of the shooting that killed a black teenage girl who appeared to be holding a knife during a fight with another young female. there are also growing calls for transparency for authorities in north carolina, where police shot and killed a black man while serving a warrant. the development ths this week a clearly raising questions about race and policing in the united states. let's begin our coverage with miguel marquez in brooklyn center, minnesota. daunte wright's funeral was both a celebration of his life, but also a call to action.
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>> reporter: it really was. this is a young man whose life was just beginning and now he is the latest symbol of racial inequality in the justice system in america. ♪ oh freedom, oh freedom ♪ ♪ oh freedom ♪ >> reporter: daunte wright, 20 years old, his parents barely able to say good-bye. >> i never imagined that i'd be standing here. the roles should completely be reversed. my son should be burying me. >> words can't even explain how i feel right now. you know, that was my son. >> reporter: wright, father of one, was shot and killed by former brooklyn center police officer kim potter, who has u. since resigned and be charged with manslaughter.
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his death, a call for equal justice. >> how did officer potter see daunte wright? but more importantly, how does america see our children? because if she saw your child, katie, like she saw her child, then i do not think she would have even reached for a taser, much less a gun, because when they see their children, they see their future. >> reporter: two of daunte wright's six siblings spoke about the brother whose life was only beginning. >> i didn't really get enough time with him. i wish i got enough. i didn't get to tell him i loved him before he left. >> i was so proud of the man
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that he was becoming. he was going to make an amazing father to junior. >> reporter: the service, part funeral, part rally for other african-americans dead at the hands of law enforcement. >> george floyd's family, breonna taylor's boyfriend kenny walker is present here with us philando castile's mother is here. >> reporter: a call for policing and justice reform everywhere. minnesota's governor and both senators attended. >> we must be steadfast in our accountability to change from the top to the bottom and not rest until we create a different future for daunte wright's son and every other child like him. >> it is time for washington, d.c. to move forward on police reform and pass the george floyd justice in policing act. we must make policing more accountable. we have to change police training and standards,
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including banning chokeholds. >> reporter: a final good-bye to daunte wright, a window of hope that real change may finally be possible. ♪ >> reporter: so that very, very graphic video of daunte wright being shot with a single shot from a glock nine millimeter from then-officer kim potter, that caused such a shock to this community as it was dealing with the trial of derek chauvin and the murder of george floyd. there has been protests, angry protests many nights in brooklyn center. a protest is scheduled for tonight as well. it is not clear if it will be angry since those guilty verdicts of the derek chauvin trial, it has been more muted. we'll see what tonight brings, but certainly there is a sense of some progress but a lot more way to go.
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>> miguel marquez in brooklyn center for us. i want to bring in the mayor of brooklyn center, michke elliot. we saw you. you attended daunte wright's funeral today. his family's attorney ben crump says the service sought to define wright's legacy. what do you hope his legacy will be? >> wolf, i was very fortunate to be in the numbers today at daunte's funeral. for me, it reenforced what we all heard about him. all of his family members talked about how much he was loved and how much he exuded love. everybody shared just how much he was the life of the party, how much his smile was just contagious and how bright his future was. i think his legacy is going to be that. i think his legacy is also going to be systemic change, because
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one thing we know for sure is that justice isn't just done in the courtroom. justice is systemic change, justice is passing the legislation that needs to be passed in the senate and signed by the president. justice also is local municipalities passing meaningful reform, changing how we do public safety and state governments once and for all passing meaningful reform. i think that's going to be daunte's legacy. >> were you able to speak with wright's family? what's your message to them and indeed to everyone in your community who are in pain tonight? >> at the funeral i wasn't able to talk directly with daunte's mom and dad, but i did get to speak with some of his other family members, including also george floyd's family members
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who are present. my message to daunte's family is you're part of our family now, you're part of the brooklyn center family and we want justice for you, we want justice for daunte and we're not going to rest. we're going to do everything that we can in our power to make sure that justice is done and meaningful reform is done, and if there's anything you need, please don't hesitate to ask us. >> that's a very good message. when you joined me here in "the situation room" on monday, mayor, you told me it's not safe to drive in minnesota while black. does the guilty verdict in the george floyd murder allow you to feel any safer right now as a black man in minnesota? >> well, wolf, that's something that i've been reflecting on. for me, the question has been, does that guilty verdict mean
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that mothers like daunte's feel any better about their kids going out driving since that verdict has come down. as i've talked to other people in my community, the answer is a resounding no. as far as folks in my community are concerned, the verdict is one milestone toward progress, but it does not represent the kind of change that's needed. in fact, the very fact that this verdict is so widely celebrated and it is historic and it is a very important verdict, but the very fact that it is so celebrated highlights the fact that we also exist in a very shameful state. we exist in current conditions
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where one guilty verdict is so widely celebrated when there have been so many others that have come before george floyd who did not see justice. so this verdict is important, but it by no means represents where we need to go ultimately we have a lot more work to do. here in my own city, we've got a lot of reform work to do. we want to be an example to the rest of the country in terms of reforms, in terms of systemic change that's actually going to make a meaningful difference. we want to enact changes that would have prevented daunte's death and that of the likes of george floyd or philando castile. we want to make real meaningful change. >> when we last spoke, you also opened up. this was very moving to me. you opened up about how personal
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this is to you. how do your personal experiences with law enforcement both as the mayor, the democratically elected mayor of brooklyn center. how do your personal experiences as mayor and before you were mayor guide you and tell you how to govern at this moment? >> thank you, wolf. i think there's a wide gap between law enforcement and the comm community, many times in the communities that they serve. because i have this personal experience of having been affected by law enforcement in very traumatic ways, in ways that are unforgettable that no citizens of the united states should have to experience, because i bring that experience with me, it guides me in wanting to make sure that those voices that have been impacted by law
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enforcement are at the table when we're making decisions about leadership, decisions around how we address protesters and how protesters are treated. it has from my own personal experience informed me in some of the key steps that we took in my city. our city council obviously, you remember, passed a resolution that protects the right for people to protest, to gather and protest peacefully, protecting them from tear gas and rubber bullets and other less lethal forms of enforcement or tactics that law enforcement use. so i bring that personal experience with me. it also guides me when we're having policy discussions around these set of meaningful reforms that we need to enact.
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i think when you have policy makers that are coming from lived experience, it makes a big difference in the outcomes of the policies that are actual ly put in place. >> it certainly does and we're grateful to you, mayor elliot, for all you're doing. thanks so much for joining us. you're always welcome to continue this conversation "the situation room." >> thank you, wolf. just ahead, the family of a black teenage girl killed by police while holding a knife is speaking out for the first time. in the romo household we take things to the max oh yeah! honey, you still in bed? yep! bye! that's why we love skechers max cushioning footwear. they've maxed out the cushion for extreme comfort. it's like walking on clouds! big, comfy ones! oh yeah! as carla wonders if she can retire sooner, she'll revisit her plan with fidelity. and with a scenario that makes it a possibility, she'll enjoy her dream right now. that's the planning effect, from fidelity.
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from a different officer's point of view. you can see the officer in question, officer nicholas riordan on the videotape from the body cam. you can see another officer walked up at a certain point. you can see the altercation taking place, the shooting and then what happens after the altercation when an officer moved forward then to render aid to ma'khia bryant. all this will be part of the independent investigation going forward, also the investigation being conducted by the state attorney general's office. as you can imagine, wolf, every time this video comes out and it hits the local news and the national news, it provides very little comfort to the bryant family. >> you had a chance to meet with the bryant family. you sat down with ma'khia bryant's family. what did they tell you? >> well, her mother is, as you can imagine, dealing with an unimaginable amount of pain at this point. she didn't want the narrative
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going forward just to be about this altercation, just to be about what's happening with police. so she took time just late this afternoon to speak with us, to talk about her daughter and to talk about the reality of having t to live without her. >> she was taken from me. she was taken from me. >> reporter: what would you like people to know about your daughter? >> i want the world to know that ma'khia was beautiful. she was humble. she loved to look after people. she loved her brothers and sisters. she wanted everybody to get along. she was a christian. shd e lord.
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i'm just hurting. i wish ma'khia was still here with me. i wish she was still here. i wish i could have hugged and kissed her again, and i can't. i can't hug my baby. i'm hurting. i loved her. >> reporter: her mother clearly in a lot of pain, wolf. she did not want to talk about details of the altercation. she did not want to talk about police as well. i did ask her about accountability, if she was looking for that from police, from the city, from anyone in particular. she said simply she would leave
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it in god's hands. >> ma'khia was only 16 years old. we're also following very disturbing developments in north carolina right now. officials there are facing growing pressure to release body camera video of the fatal shooting of andrew brown jr., who was killed by deputies who were serving a warrant. cnn's brian todd is in elizabeth city, north carolina, where it happened. with so many unanswered questions surrounding this shooting, why haven't the deputies released body camera footage? why hasn't that yet been released? >> reporter: we got a partial answer on that question a few minutes ago from the local district attorney and the local county attorney as to why this has not been released. i'm going to tell you about that in one second. let me set the scene for you here though. protesters are marching through the intersection where andrew brown was shot and killed by
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deputies yesterday morning. community leaders leading the crowd over there in prayer and in some reflective thoughts about what happened. they're calling for justice and answers. as you mentioned, they're not going to get answers any time soon. we learned from the local district attorney and the county attorney, they've just released a statement saying that under north carolina law, these police body cam videos are not public record and they have to follow the law and the law prohibits them from releasing the body cam footage. that's not saying that they're definitely never going to release it. they're saying right now without a court order they cannot release it. we're pressing them for answers as to wh tether they're going t release it. we did hear from harry daniels, the lead counsel for the brown family. >> a lot of speculation is going on. we're asking for answers, accountability and transparency. this is something that we are
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demanding immediate release. what we do know is that mr. brown was shot and killed. he was unarmed at the time. we do know he was shot by multiple officers yesterday morning around 8:00. we believe that he was deceased on the scene. >> reporter: the representatives for the brown family have also told us after their conference call with the district attorney, their words with him, they have learned there are three deputies in the sheriff's department on administrative leave. there were multiple deputies firing multiple shots at mr. brown. that's according to witnesses who spoke to us and members of the family. >> let's get some analysis from laura coates, cheryl dorsey and joey jackson.
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laura, this is just the latest wave of very disturbing videos. the circumstances may change each time, but do you believe when officers face an armed white suspect they find a way for the situation to end differently? >> i think the data shows that de-escalation tactics that are normally used and strategies are used when you're talking about the different racial disparities, the data speaks for itself. you have the continuous thread through all of these cases which is the use of force continuum that america learned a great deal about during the derek chauvin trial, about the assessment, the re-evaluation and assessment the officer must look at to determine what type of force to use. the common thread in all of this is up until now we have seen this presumptive benefit of the doubt given to police officers in the use of force that has not really been checked in the same way it's been over the last month. the question really becomes when
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an officer is involved in a shooting like we've seen over the past several days, is the use of force continuum being applied? or are they trained in some way to have a carte blanche dynamic at play? that's not how it's supposed to be. the supreme court has given that benefit of the doubt for split second decisions, but it's also supposed to be based on reasonable behavior. it's either going untested by prosecutors or when it is tested, not being able to overcome that benefit of the doubt until two days ago. and that wasn't even a shooting case. >> sergeant dorsey, you spent a long time as a police officer. you're retired right now. how do you get police officers from your vantage point to see not only the potential threat of a situation but the humanity, let's say, of black people involved? >> that's not something you can teach.
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you can't unlearn racism either. we know everything about the way black people are engaging with police right now is problematic. even just the way they say hello and may i see your driver's license to a black person is very different than what they stop a white person on a traffic stop. so we've got to admit that everybody who wants to be the police should not be. there are so many officers on these police departments who are out there fearful, so they say, of black folks and are using deadly force as a first resort rather than a last resort. they understand they have people who will coddle and shelter them. the gop is saying qualified immunity and desertification of officers is a nonstarter. if you're not using excessive force, what are the gop afraid
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of? >> we did watch the very moving funeral of daunte wright today. police say the officer accidentally used a gun, not a taser. but black people can't afford to make a mistake in these interactions with police at all, can they? >> no, i don't think they can, wolf. here's the bottom line. i know there are legislative efforts underway. i know president biden is pushing for them and seizing this opportunity. i think it's important to legislate issues of no-knock warrants and chokeholds and demilitarizing police forces et cetera. it goes deeper. the fact is daunte wright is not coming back. the bottom line is you cannot legislate morality, you cannot legislate good judgment, you cannot legislate using your discretion in a way that favors life. those are things that you really need. the other thing is in the
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absence of legislation, you have to look at the dynamic of the culture of the people who were working on police forces. where are we recruiting them from? do they come from the communities they are serving? do they have an understanding of those communities? why are you so scared? you've got to get to the root causes of these issues and i think that becomes a big deal. i think the meaning, the whole issue of this guilty verdict is so significant because it speaks to accountability. amen. we've gotten to the point where officers who engage in transgressions are not arrested. if they're arrested, they're not indicted. if they're indicted, they're not convicted. my dad was a law enforcement officer, bless his heart and may he rest in peace forever. he always used to tell me of all the tools and equipment he had with him, the biggest thing he had was his mouth. talk to people, be courteous,
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respectful, be kind, be decent. but to be pointing guns and be using pe ing profanities and evg else is a problem. we have police officers out there every day who are doing their job, who are protecting our communities. i applaud their efforts. may they do so and remain safe, of course. but for those who transagtrans aggr gress the law may that by accountable. mr. wright is not coming back. he should be here. call it what you will. it's not excusable. >> thank you very, very much. coming up, president biden takes a very dramatic turn away from the climate policies of the trump administration, pledging to slash carbon emissions by half in less than a decade. i can tell that they used your milk, matilda.
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there is new momentum in congress on legislation to overall policing in the united states, but some key differences between republicans and democrats are beginning to emerge. let's get some reaction from the president and ceo of the national urban league mark borreal. i know you were at daunte wright's funeral. how emotional was it to honor his life, cut so short just days after the guilty verdict in the derek chauvin trial? >> to see the family, a black
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father, a white mother and all of their children present, to understand that this was a very young man, a 19-year-old man who was a father and has a little baby, was really emotional. you get the sense when you're in the church as you watch the family how painful it is. it's jarred the nation. it's jarred every one of us. but for the family, it is so painful. he will never be returned. they will ask why, as i do, why does it continue to happen to our children, to our young black children? it's unnecessary. it's unneeded. it's criminal. it's hateful, wolf, and we have to stop it. reverend sharpton, i think, captured the moment in a great fashion that daunte wright is a prince and that daunte wright
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now sits with many of the martyrs of police violence. and we have got to pass a meaningful, substantial, substantive george floyd justice in policing act, which as you know, i've been a part of from the very beginning when karen bass and others, cory booker on the senate side, introduced the bill last summer. there has to be from this movement, from this pain, from this opportunity, meaningful policy change at the national level. the attorney general, i think, has begun that step with executive actions at the department of justice. states like maryland have taken action. the minnesota house of representatives just yesterday took a step to, if you will, make the kind of launching just the policy changes that allow for police to be held accountable and also that proactively change policing in
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america. >> beyond federal legislation, where are you most hopeful there will be change in our country? >> i think there has to be change in an understanding that to talk about accountability for bad policing does not make you anti-police. i think that the country has to understand that police officers are human beings, yes, but they're also public servants. we hold a corrupt politician accountable. we hold a corrupt building inspector accountable. we should hold a corrupt, violent, if you will, police officer who violates people's constitutional rights accountable as well. this is about understanding, i think, in this world that police officers are there to protect and serve. they take a very important oath. they owe that responsibility to us. the standard should be strong and tough. and that when they run afoul of
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it, they need to be held accountable. more than that, wolf, the reimagination, the reenvisioning, the rethinking about policing, i heard the last panel, i think joey jackson is absolutely right, there's got to be more de-escalation, there's got to be more conversation. everything can't be grab the gun, grab the taser, use a foul command language when you're trying to deal with the community. we all understand the difference between a dispute that can be deescalated and something where maybe there is a true, true, true threat to life. but in these instances, whether it's the no-knock warrant situation with breonna taylor or george floyd or daunte wright or eric garner or tamir rice or trayvon martin or michael brown, all of these, these were unnecessary deaths. these were heinous acts of violence against black citizens
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with covid vaccines widely available throughout much of the united states, some parts of the country, though, actually have more supply than demand. for more on that, i want to discuss with a key member of the fda vaccine advisory committee dr. paul offitt.
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cdc data shows for the first time in more than two weeks the seven-day average of coronavirus vaccines administered actually dropped below 3 million shots per day. does that concern you? >> i'd like to see what happens over the next week or two to see whether that is a blip or a trend. certainly the things that you worry about are that we've gotten to a point where now that everybody who needs a vaccine can for the most part get it, that there is a critical percentage of people kwwho are saying this vaccine isn't for them. i hope dhthat doesn't happen because we need 80% of the population to be vaccinated. >> the cdc advisory board's refusal to make a decision about the johnson & johnson vaccine. the group is meeting again tomorrow. what will it take to undo the damage from their previous indecision? >> if the johnson & johnson were the first vaccine to come on the
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market or to become available, we would have had a very different conversation. we would have said here's a vaccine that has an extraordinarily rare side effect that's serious. it happens in one in a million people. if you take people who are infected with covid, 5,000 will die and many more will be left with permanent harm. the benefits outweigh the risk. we have two other vaccines that don't cause this. so let's put a pause on this vaccine, during which time we didn't give the american people a chance to understand relative risk. what worries me is this vaccine, which has a number of add vantages, that there will be people now who won't get a vaccine because of what's happened over the last week and a half. >> i totally agree. as usual, thanks for everything you're doing. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. just ahead, can the u.s. beat president biden's new goal
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the fight against climate change. >> this is a moral imperative, an economic imperative. but also a moment of extraordinary possibilities. time is short, but i believe we can do this. >> reporter: the president, with an ambitious goal cutting emissions in half by the end of the decade. >> because scientists tell us that this is the decisive decade. this is the decade we must make decisions that will avoid the worst consequences to have climate crisis. >> reporter: at the white house, the president convening 40 leaders from across the globe at a summit on earth day. it was biden's latest way of showing the world the trump era is over. as russian president vladamir putin, chinese president xi jinping and even pope francis looked on. >> we have no choice. we have to get this done. >> reporter: he pledged the u.s. would cut emissions in half by 2030 based on 2005 levels.
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he said by 2024, the v administration would double the amount of money to countries to ease their emissions. the goals are part of the paris climate agreement. the white house rejoined on his first day in office. the prime minister of britain among the leaders praising biden for rejoining the global fight. >> it's vital for all of us to show that this is not all about some expensive politically correct green act of body hugging. this is about growth and jobs. >> reporter: johnson's words were striking, given his close association with former president trump, who spent the last four years belittling attempts to fight climate change. >> the united states will cease
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all implementation of the non-binding paris accord and the draconian financial and economic burdens the agreement imposes on our country. >> reporter: but it is that trump-to-biden whiplash that makes people question america's credibility. >> how can we trust you? what will happen in the next four years? >> reporter: john kerry said the united states could not fall back. >> there is a very powerful answer, which is no politician, i think, could change what is now happening globally in the marketplace. and that is part of the message of what's happened here today. >> reporter: from the cars we drive to the houses we live in, this will dramatically touch every piece of american life and indeed the economy.
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joe biden was just offering a way forward, but many difficulties ahead reaching that goal. but one thing is clear, the u.s. is back at the center of the climate debate. >> indeed. jeff zeleny, thank you. stay with us tomorrow night for a town hall on the climate crisis. cnn's dana bash will moderate this tomorrow night 10:00 p.m. eastern only here on cnn. more news right after this.
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and tackle four things at once. so when her car got hit, she didn't worry. she simply filed a claim on her usaa app and said... i got this. usaa insurance is made the way kate needs it - easy. she can even pick her payment plan so it's easy on her budget and her life. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa. we're carvana, the company usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand-new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. what happens when we welcome change? we can make emergency medicine possible at 40,000 feet. instead of burning our past for power,
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we can harness the energy of the tiny electron. we can create new ways to connect. rethinking how we communicate to be more inclusive than ever. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change. faster. vmware. welcome change. finally tonight, we're honoring the former vice president, walter mondale. the minnesota democrat who also was his party's 1984 presidential nominee and a u.s. veteran senator died monday at the age of 93.
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i interviewed him less than two years ago for a dock men try on his former boss, president jimmy carter. he was clear that he saw his working relationship with president carter as central to his legacy. watch this. how do you want to be remembered? >> an honest and decent guy that did his best to serve the public. >> you did. >> uh-huh. >> and what do you think your legacy will be? >> i hope it's that. i think that the relationship with carter is seen as a unique step forward, and i believe sense it's been copied by later vice presidents and presidents of both political parties, it will be seen as a big contribution. >> i knew walter mondale.
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covered him over many years. and i can tell you he was an honest, very, very decent man. may he rest in peace and may his memory be a blessing. thank you very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, a family mourns a young black man killed by police, new questions surrounding more police involved fatal shootings across the country, including the death of a 16-year-old girl in columbus, ohio. plus, an anti-asian hate crimes bill passes the senate 94-1. so who was the only senator? republican josh holly. why? and doctors say alexei navalny say end the hunger strike now. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin


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