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both families say this is the fight of their lives for a better, more just america. >> thank you for your strength. >> reporter: sara sidner, cnn, minneapolis. >> generations of struggle. >> the remarkable partnership there. it's amazing to see. cnn's coverage continues right now. very good tuesday morning. lots of news this morning. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm poppy harlow. the prosecution made its case. the defense has made its. now the fate of the derek chauvin murder trial rests in the hands of 12 jurors in minneapolis. we're waiting on those jurors to begin day two of their deliberations. in its closing arguments yesterday, chauvin's defense highlighted other factors they argue may have contributed to george floyd's death, including heart problems. but listen to this. this is the prosecution on
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rebuttal flipping that narrative. >> you were told, for example, that mr. floyd died -- that mr. floyd died because his heart was too big. you heard that testimony. the reason george floyd is dead is because mr. chauvin's heart was too small. >> as jury deliberations play out, the nation is bracing for the possibility of unrest. law enforcement agencies in minneapolis and in other cities around the country are preparing for any violence that could be sparked by the outcome of the trial. this as lawmakers are facing renewed pressure to act finally on police reform in some sort of bipartisan compromise. cnn's josh campbell is in minneapolis and will be in the courtroom today. josh, we don't know how many days the jury will deliberate. they'll start later this morning. tell us how things will play out. >> i think it's important first for those who may not have
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served on a jury to understand just how personality driven this process is. think about it. you have 12 members of the public who presumably didn't know each other before this trial. they do build relationships during the course of the trial but they are then put in a room and told to deliberate, go through the evidence. try to come up with some verdict on the three counts that this former officer is facing. i can tell you having been on a jury and in the criminal justice system this process is often involved with people who are more outspoken. maybe some less so. but every one of those jurors in that room has an equal voice. of course, a very large responsibility. now as far as this specific jury today, we know that they will remain fully sequestered throughout this process of the deliberation. the daily start and ending times have not yet been established. the court said they could go as late as 9:30 p.m. eastern time. the judge said they can have contact wct ith their family. he's admonished them not to study this case with anyone
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other than their fellow jurors. of course, they've been provided with that mountain of evidence, all the exhibits, all the images, all the video to go through. but it's basically going to come down to this. the two competing arguments in this case, best summarized by the prosecution and defense yesterday during their closing arguments. take a listen. >> you can believe your eyes. it's exactly what you believed. it's exactly what you saw with your eyes. it's exactly what you knew. it's what you felt in your gut. it's what you now know in your he heart. this wasn't policing. this was murder. >> all of the evidence shows that mr. chauvin thought he was following his training. he was, in fact, following his training. he was following minneapolis police department policies. he was trained this way. it all demonstrates a lack of intent. >> now as jim said, we don't
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know how long dlibration will go. could be hours, days, weeks. i'm headed into court in a few minutes. we'll see what the day brings. >> josh, thank you. for more on what may be going on in that jury room, let's bring in friend and former prosecutor laura coates. so many things to ask you. i want to begin with what i was so struck by yesterday and that was steve schleicher, the prosecutor who gave the first closing argument, not the rebuttal. what he said about this being a pro-police prosecution. here he was. >> make no mistake. this is not a prosecution of the police. it is a prosecution of the defendant. and there's nothing worse for a good police than a bad police. this was not policing. he betrayed the badge and everything it stood for. it's not how they're trained. it's not following the rules. this is not an anti-police
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prosecution. it's a pro-police prosecution. >> over and over again, did it work? was it impactful and important? >> this is very impactful. there's a psychological hurder that people have in the united states of america and beyond. nobody wants to believe a police officer wakes up in the morning, puts on his or her uniform, adorns the badge and then goes out to kill somebody in the united states america. a civilian in an unjustified way, of course. so this is a way of getting to the idea of, look, this is the ten-foot pole distancing. this is not an attack on all police. this person was not acting in the nobility of the profession. this person was not trained to do this. you heard law enforcement official after law enforcement official, including his own chief, talk about who sets the policy. training experts say this is not at all what we have instructed. so it allows the jurors that distance that some people may need to say, look, this is somebody who was using the badge to commit a crime under essentially the color of the
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law. and using the badge because he could, not because he was trained to do so or because in any way the amount of force used was reasonable. >> we should note, laura, the jury has begun now its second day of deliberations. it's only 8:00 central time right now. they are beginning early. getting right to work. laura, a question for you. the judge's instructions at the end, just before they began their deliberations, i want to draw your attention to one line from those written instructions. they go, the fact that other causes contributed to death does not relieve the defendant of criminal liability. this gets to a point you've made that while the defense argument here was there could have been other factors at play, size of his heart, drug use, carbon monoxide, et cetera, from a legal perspective, i don't want to say that doesn't matter but that you don't have to prove that the knee on the neck was the only cause, but just a substantial cause. tell us the impact of judges'
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instructions like that to the jury. >> that's an important reminder for the jury. you need not have the sole cause. that may seem odd. how can you not have one sole cause of death? they are saying, it's not whether the underlying conditions that this particular person had could have some dayd. it was why he died on that day. remember the defense tried to plant a case that said it wasn't george floyd in the wrong place at the wrong time who found himself under the knee of derek chauvin. it was derek chauvin essentially who happened to coincidentally be there the day that the sand left the jar for george floyd. and so this idea to try to make sure the jury understands, it's not the judge trying to put his thumb on the scale. it's a reminder of what the minnesota law is that it need only be a substantial causal factor. one other point, jim, it's as important for prosecutors to show jurors what they had to prove to meet their burden of proof as it is to show what they
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did not have to prove. and the idea of when you have no intent as being one of the components, and unintentional murder, the idea of not having to prove it was the sole cause, that's important for a jury to know to contextualize and hone in on what the burden of proof was and how they met it. >> just from my own understanding there, do you not need to prove intent for any of those three charges? >> for the murder charges -- especially the third-degree murder and second-degree murder cases you have the idea of this nuance. it's the idea of they need not intend murder to kill this person. you need to intend to commit the act that caused the death. that's not the same as actual intent. you have second-degree, third-degree and manslaughter. the range is not intent. it's the different levels of negligence and the idea of committing an underlying felony. that being the assault. >> so much nuance here. difficult things for jurors to consider and to come to
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unanimous agreement on. laura coates, thank you. law enforcement official are bracing for the potential of unrest, possibly violence as well, if the derek chauvin jury delivers a verdict that some find unfavorable. >> minnesota's governor tim walz just declared an emergency in seven counties in the region allowing him to bring in law enforcement help from ohio and nebraska. our colleague adrienne broaddus joins us in minneapolis. obviously, they are bringing in more folks because they saw what happened in the wake of george floyd's killing. but can you talk about the other steps being taken in minneapolis, what it's like on the ground there ahead of the verdict? >> absolutely. and part of the reason the governor said they are bringing in those additional members of the national guard is because cities across the twin cities are exhausted. they don't have the resources to provide adequate public safety, according to governor walz.
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obviously, minneapolis was already preparing for what could potentially happen following the verdict in the chauvin trial. if you drive around downtown minneapolis, you'll notice much of what you see behind me, barricades and barbed wires. we're outside of the police station in the downtown area. it's about a half mile from the hennepin county courthouse. this is a step to protect some valuable infrastructure that the city sees. keep in mind they don't want to happen what happened here 11 months ago following the killing of george floyd. hundreds of buildings were destroyed. some people are still dealing with that devastation and some business owners haven't been able to reopen because that happened right during the height of the pandemic. they were closed. and then the damage from the protesters came along and just amplified that situation. aside from what you see around the twin cities, schools are returning to distance learning tomorrow in minneapolis.
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so parents once again struggling to juggle their schedules because the kids will be at home. poppy, these are many children who are asking what's happened? and what happens now will impact those students. >> adrienne, thank you, on the ground in minneapolis. joining us to discuss the police response, charles ramsey, former philadelphia police commissioner, former d.c. police chief. charles, good to have you on. >> thank you. >> it's a delicate balance, right, that law enforcement and the national guard, by the way, has to strike here. you have protests, peaceful ones like the ones we showed there with adrienne's report marching through the street. others have become more violent. and you see police ratchet things up and down and you have some commanders now promising, vowing to de-escalate. and i just wonder, as you've watched the response and the preparations for this verdict, do you see them striking a balance there of allowing peaceful protests, but
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responding in such a way to control violence if it were to happen. >> yeah, i think so. you have to have that balance. even when you have a situation where a few people start to break windows, let's say, or cause other types of destruction. you have to take action. it is very important that as soon as you resolve that you de-escalate once again. the majority of people that are there, are there to peacefully protest. they are upset. they have an issue. they have a constitutional right to petition their government. that's what they're there for. but there's not unusual to have a group of folks that are there who have something different in mind and that's where you wind up with a problem. often that occurs at night and why you see a dramatic shift usually between the protests during the day and sometimes what you see at night. not everyone at night is violent or causing problems, but there are some. police have to be prepared for both. >> i want to show you the editorial board piece in the "minneapolis star tribune."
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here's the headline. it says stop the attacks on journalists. and it details -- maybe we don't have it, but -- there you go. it details what happened over the last week, charles, even after a judge issued this order on friday to ban law enforcement from using physical force on journalists. within hours of that, journalists were rounded up by officers, told to lie on the ground on their stomachs. reporters and photographers gas ed with chemical spray at close range, shot with rubber bullets. it just happened to our fantastic producer. i bring this up because i wonder if it concerns you and is indicative of what's to come against journalists ahead but also against others protesting in the streets. >> it definitely concerns me. there's another balance there. reporters are there to do their job. and, you know, if there's going
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to be something that puts them in danger and you let them know so that you can move and not be hurt, that's one thing. but to actually go through what i saw earlier with some of the journalists, no, that should not occur. i remember when i was in philadelphia, we had an issue, it wasn't around demonstrations. it was around crime scene protection and access to crime scenes. some reporters like to get too close to a crime scene. i actually called in directors of the various news organizations, print and visual media, and we sat down and went through the directive and i took their suggestions and they helped create the new directive that we use in order -- on how to deal with the media. and so there are ways in which you can have those kinds of discussions and avoid those problems that come up because they have a first amendment right to be there to cover it. i mean, that's not to say a mistake can't be made but if they're showing i.d. and so forth, there's no excuse for that. >> the largest police union in the country, washington,
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d.c.-based fraternal order of the police issued a statement in their words welcoming loud but peaceful protests ahead of the chauvin verdict. i wonder how important that statement is. acknowledging that there is a right here to protest but, obviously, keep to peaceful. >> it's incredibly important for them to speak up. rarely do you hear a union say anything like that. so i'm very pleased when i saw that, when i heard that. believe me, more unions should step up and deal with those kinds of situations. that's our constitution, too, as a police officer. the same constitution that people have that are out there demonstrating in the streets. they have a right to do it. our job is to protect that right but at the same time, protect property, protect individuals that could be harmed or what have you. that's where the balance comes in. it's give and take, but the bottom line is, we're there to support their right to protest, not to take that right away. >> commissioner ramsey, thank you so much this morning especially. still to come -- wait until
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you hear what the mayor of brooklyn center, minnesota, says he has been victim of. racial profiling, violence by police in his city and more than once. his story ahead. and more trouble for johnson & johnson. a manufacturing facility has paused production of their covid vaccine at the request of the fda. more on that ahead. and the d.c. medical examiner says that capitol police officer brian sicknick did not die due to injuries sustained during the capitol insurrection. the details of that finding and what it means, coming up.
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well, more trouble in the rollout of the johnson & johnson covid vaccine. the fda has ordered a plant in baltimore to halt production. >> last month 15 million doses were ruined when workers at that plant mixed up ingredients for the j&j and astrazeneca vaccines. we should note the j&j shots used to date in the u.s. were manufactured overseas. last week the fda and cdc paused use of the j&j vaccine after six reported cases of a rare but dangerous blood clot among women who had recently been vaccinated. >> let's discuss all of this with dr. richard besser, former acting director of the cdc. current. because we're talking about j&j, i want to put this out there for a disclaimer. your foundation funded through a charitable donation from the creator of johnson & johnson.
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so now what with j&j? you have this plant issue? you have no decision yet by the governing bodies, and you've got a list of symptoms that people need to look out for after getting vaccinated that includes sudden severe headache, backache, new neurological symptoms, severe abdominal pain, shortness of breath, leg swelling, tiny red spots on the skin or new or easy bruising. how long do we have to watch and see if we get those? >> yeah, you know, i think it was a very smart decision by the cdc, the fda to put a pause on the administration of the j&j vaccine. for a number of reasons. you know, when the vaccine trials are done, they are done in tens of thousands of people and that will pick up more common side effects. but it's not until you administer a vaccine in millions of people that you see something that could be extremely hair.
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and the signals here, these six individuals, are that there could be a connection between the j&j vaccine and this very rare type of clot. and the reason it's important to take a pause is that there are different ways to treat clots in people. and the routine way to treat a clot that someone may get in their leg is with a drug called heparin. for this special type of clot that's been seen in these six individuals, giving that drug heparin is actually dangerous. so taking a pause, they can let doctors know what to look for, how to approach that and hopefully maintain confidence in the whole vaccine system that we are looking for, for anywhere possible complication and when that happens, there's going to be transparency and people will know what's going on. >> it's remarkable that the main drug used to address clots actually make this worse in this case. i wonder, though, given dr. fauci's comments earlier this week saying that perhaps by this
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friday the fda will reauthorize this use with recommendations. that assessment, plus putting out this more detailed guidance on what symptoms to look for after taking this. i wonder if you see the makings of a path back for the j&j vaccine. is that something of a hopeful sign amidst this? >> yeah, i hope so. dr. walensky yesterday said there may be a few additional cases that have been identified during this period. but what i'll be looking for is what kind of a recommendation do they make? when you look at the cases so far, they were all seen in women younger than 50. so do they have a different recommendation for women than they do for men? or is there just information that is shared so people can make an informed decision? the occurrence is very, very rare. they talk about six cases in 7 million doses. but you have to think about
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whether 7 million is the right number. if all of the cases were in women and there's some reason that women are at a risk and men are not, then that number of 7 million may be six cases in 3 million or 4 million. we'll be looking to see what they say on friday. i hope it comes back because a one-dose vaccine is really valuable. and a vaccine that doesn't require ultra cold temperatures. especially in countries where refrigeration, freezing is not something that's relatively accessible. you want to have more vaccines out there. >> you wrote such a powerful piece in "usa today" about our kids and as we reopen and lift mask mandates. americans face a challenge of our own making on the path to herd immunity. our failure to properly consider the needs of children. what are we doing wrong? >> i think there's a lot we're doing wrong. i'm a pediatrician and a parent.
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and we're talking now about this pandemic being over. but there are no license vaccines, approved vaccines for children. and although the severity of covid, thankfully, is less in kids, until we have those vaccines out there, we need to wear masks. we need to wash our hands. we need to do these things to protect children. and we need to make sure that the resources are getting to schools so that children can learn in person and in particular, if you look at schools that serve lower income communities, schools that serve black and brown children, there's a real disparity between what's available for those schools and what's available for schools that serve primarily white children in wealthier neighborhoods. we have to fix that. >> education disparity like there's a wealth disparity, exposed even more by this pandemic. ahead this hour, we're going
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his advisers say president biden is closely watching the events unfolding in minneapolis as we await a verdict in the derek chauvin trial. and the possibility of protests in cities around the country depending on the outcome. >> white house aides say the president is likely to address the nation whenever that verdict does come, calling the situation a tinderbox. it becomes more volatile by the day. let's go to the white house. jeremy diamond is there. interesting development we just learned about and that is who the president spoke with yesterday. >> yeah, that's right, poppy. we know president biden has been in touch with the family of george floyd since his tragic killing. he not only spoke with the family in the immediate aftermath of george floyd being killed but he also then traveled to houston ahead of george floyd's funeral and met with the family in private for more than an hour. we're now learning that the
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president, president biden, also spoke yesterday with the family of george floyd as those closing arguments were taking place. listen to george floyd's brother philonise recounting that conversation. >> he knows how it is to lose a family member. and he knows the process of what we're going through. so he was just letting us know that he was praying for us and hoping that everything will come out to be okay. >> president biden has been keeping a close eye on this trial as it has been unfolding. of course, it's been appointment television for so many americans across the country and dominating daytime tv. so the white house and president biden have their tvs tuned to the news coverage over the last week or so. they know this is a tinderbox situation according to one senior white house official. and president biden has voiced concerns, including last week in a meeting with the congressional black caucus w what the fallout
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from this trial may be if it's a not guilty verdict. he and vice president kamala harris have been having conversations about what the outcome may be. of course, white house officials are in touch with governors and local officials as well in minnesota bracing for what that fallout may be. >> jeremy, we'll be watching. thank you very much, at the white house. and as the jury deliberates, the city of minneapolis clearly on edge. but this goes beyond the trial. listen to the mayor of brooklyn center, minnesota, right next to minneapolis, and, of course, that's where daunte wright was killed by a police officer last week. this is the mayor speaking with our wolf blitzer. >> it's not safe to drive in minnesota while you're black. i mean, the fact of the matter is there's so many of us who drive, you know, and if we see
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police behind us, we're afreafraid. we're trembling. that's a kind of terror that no citizens of the united states -- no citizen of the united states should ever have to face. it's constant. it's ever present. >> and it's happened to him. listen to what he said when wolf asked him about his personal experience with racism in minnesota. >> i've had officer almost throw me off my bike just coming back from biking down the parkway. you know, saying that, you know, someone called and said they saw their neighbor's back door open and saw me riding down the sidewalk, down the street and thought maybe for some reason i had burglarized their neighbor's home. >> let me bring in sandra samuels. she runs the northside achievement zone, a nonprofit working with thousands of families in the most underserved communities in minneapolis.
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and her office is just a few miles away from where daunte wright was shot by police. thank you for being with us, especially on a week like this. >> oh, you're welcome, poppy. great to be here. >> what is the power in hearing a mayor say that, following the words of the lieutenant governor who is a white woman, peggy flanagan, saying over the weekend, minnesota is a place where it is not safe to be black. how important is it to hear it from them? >> so, you know, truth crushed to earth will rise again. it's so important that we tell the truth right now around the real reality in minnesota and minneapolis and brooklyn center, in gary, indiana, in new york, you know, we are a microcosm so to speak of what's going on all over our country. so it's powerful to have an elected official share his experience and our lieutenant governor. >> and i think, of course, the obvious question is, what are you going to do about it? and i don't mean you.
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you're already doing so much about it, but i mean action by those elected officials. you've talked about feeling helpless as an adult. feeling like you can't protect your -- the children of your community. and you've said this last year that it struck me. you said thank you, george floyd. thank you for giving us the opportunity to see ourselves and to wake up. >> yeah. yeah, poppy, if the question is what should be done, i am hoping that we use this moment to not scapegoat police. and what i mean by that, poppy, is police have got to stop killing black people. my husband and i were at a peaceful protest last night and all you saw were, you know, people from indigenous community, white, black, just from all over, saying the same thing. this has got to stop. the cycle of the murders and
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then the protests and then the -- letting the police officers go. the exoneration of the police. that has got to stop. so i'm saying that strongly. at the same time what i keep saying, poppy is that our sensibilities are pricked because we saw the murder. because we keep seeing the murder. we see the results. and what we don't see, poppy, are -- is all of the racism that's underneath the waterline of this big iceberg. if the killing of george floyd was the tip, there's a bunch underneath him. we've got to get to the system. and the system of racism. >> the work you do for anyone who is not familiar with the northside achievement zone, it's a remarkable thing that you've built, close to where i grew up in spent all of my childhood. you helped the most vulnerable. you help the most underserved kids. what are they saying to you,
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sandra. what are those black and brown children saying to you as they watch this play out in their city? >> you know, poppy, we used to have a youth group called north side youth stand up and they had a whole -- we had a whole movement called "don't shoot, i want to live." both in terms of the police as well as the community violence that happens in addition. and that is something, again, and poppy, it has all -- there's all kind of social, structural, racist reasons for it happening. but the main thing is that our children are the ones who are suffering the most. so either they are killed by a police officer or they are killed by -- especially if you are in a low-income community, someone from the community. and, in fact, this year, poppy, we have -- it's so -- what i'm trying to say is they are dealing with trauma all the way around, and they are looking to the adults to protect them. and it's something we've all failed to do. >> we failed and we owe it to
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every single one of them. i want to be very clear for our viewers about your view of police. we heard in the closing arguments yesterday from the prosecutor. this is not an anti-police prosecution. this is a pro-police prosecution. interestingly, you are part of a group actually suing the minneapolis police department because you want more police in your community. so what is your message to some really high-profile democrats that are calling now to abolish the police? >> yeah. so it's a naive approach, poppy. i mean, we have got to change the system of policing. and poppy, we've got to also change the system of education. and we've got to change the system of housing and banking and lending and jobs. i mean, the disparities in this state and around the country are ginormous. and what we're saying is i live in a community that is disproportionately african-american. on thursday, right before daunte
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was murdered, a 16-year-old got shot in front of my office. yesterday, one of our partners in early childhood, because we on do wrap-around support for families, said a 15-year-old got shot in front of her business. i live in this community of north minneapolis. i have neighbors who are moving, who can move because they can't take it anymore. a woman was murdered, and her five -- her babies, she was pregnant at george floyd square last year. her baby survived about five weeks. i mean, businesses, black businesses, poppy, are begging for more protection because they are losing their livelihoods. i mean, this is part of the thing that we're demonstrating for. for racial justice. so that we can live and so that we can live well. and to just simply say, let's dismantle the police without dismantling the structures that hold up the chauvins of the
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world is disingenuous, at best, and evil at worst. we've lost about 200 to 250 police officers across the city. and you know where everyone is dying? we've had 21 homicides this year. 85% of those homicides are african-american men, and 83% of them have happened right here in my neighborhood. and so we need the system to change. cops have to be held accountable to change our arbitration rules, to make sure that we put systems in place so that it doesn't happen again. and so that we have good cops who can work alongside mental health workers and social workers when that's called for. but, poppy, we have to do both and. we have to be able to chew gum and walk and simply saying to them it doesn't work.
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a significant development into the investigation of capitol police officer brian sicknick. you'll remember him because he died one day after the january 6th riot at the capitol. >> an extremely significant development. there had been allegations that protesters led to his death. cnn justice correspondent jessica schneider joins us now. explain why prosecutors based on this finding by the medical examiner may not be able to pursue homicide charges here. and is this finding definitive? >> it's what the medical examiner is saying now. after three months, jim and
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poppy, the d.c. medical examiner announcing the cause of death here saying that officer sicknick died of natural causes, specifically the report saying that he suffered two strokes. that's the conclusion here. it's significant because as you guys mentioned over the past 100-plus days since january 66th, there's been a lot of speculation about how officer sicknick died. capitol police announced he died due to injuries on duty that day. officials were pursuing a federal murder investigation. but then in february, the investigation actually stalled because the exact cause of sicknick's death was undetermined. and in the meantime, two men have been charged with assaulting officer sicknick and two other officers with chemical spray. and there was that question whether the chemical spray could have been the cause of sicknick's death. but, of course, now the medical examiner saying there is no evidence that sicknick had an allergic reaction to the chemical spray? that's according to "the washington post." so because of that, it is likely that no one will be charged in
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connection to sicknick's death. in addition, however, the medical examiner, though, did tell "the washington post," quote, all that transpired played a role here. that's a looming question. but other looming questions here, whether or not officer sicknick had any previous conditions. that's something the medical examiner couldn't answer here. as to the timeline of events, he was sprayed around 2:20 on january 6th and hours later he collapsed at the u.s. capitol. he -- it was an office that he collapsed and he was brought to the hospital where he died one day later. so a lot of questions here still looming. whether or not there were any pre-existing conditions that officer sicknick had but the definitive conclusion coming from the medical examiner now that it was natural causes that officer sicknick died of two strokes. guys? >> jessica, they are still pursuing possible charges for an attack on sicknick, but no longer that that attack caused his death.
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is that the -- >> the existing charges right now are assaulting sicknick. we heard there was a federal murder investigation. we have not heard definitively if that's gone away, but it likely has with this report. >>jessica, thank you. we'll be right back. you got your new customers — they get our best deals. you got your existing customers — they also get our best deals. everyone. gets. the deals. questions? got it. but, why did you use a permanent marker? because i want to make sure you remember. i am going to get a new whiteboard. it's not complicated. only at&t gives new & existing customers the same great deals on all smartphones. get up to $800 off our latest 5g smartphones.
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against russia. the country continues to emass troops, there is this. the big question is what is next? >> that's right. i think, you know, there has been a tremendous amount of things that happened in u.s.-russia relations since the russian ambassador here in washington was recalled to moscow. and now we're seeing this morning that ambassador sullivan, the u.s. ambassador in moscow is going to be returning here to washington later this week. this comes after the russian foreign minister suggested that the biden administration bring back ambassador sullivan for detailed conversations about u.s.-russia relations. as you said, that was after the biden administration imposed a tremendous amount of costs on russia for interference in the 2020 election. and the solarwind hack. i want to read you a statement from amounts sullivan about his return to washington. he said, "i believe it's important for me to speak directly with my new colleagues in the biden administration in washington about the current
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