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all right. it is time for the big show, "cnn tonight," with its big star, d lemon. people are in the streets. they were just taking a knee. but, you know what i don't like? first of all, i tell you what i do like. let's be positive. i like seeing black and white, together. i like seeing old and young. i like seeing constituencies of a community coming together, even if they don't share a common experience. and when they get loud and they yell about the police, and how angry they are. nobody ever said that everything you're supposed to say is supposed to be polite and pleasant. and anybody, who felt that way, lost that leverage, after january 6th when they didn't speak up about what happened there. so, they are taking the knee. they're polite. when they start yelling about
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how this was a 13-year-old kid, and he turned and there was no gun in his hand. how is that right? they have every right to yell and be angry about it. and i would argue, if you are not angry, if you're not outraged, it doesn't have the energy that catches the ear of those in power. >> you know what'd be great? i like to see diversity, too, and people together. black and white, whatever it is. wouldn't it be great, if it was, like, all, middle-aged, white guys out there saying this has to stop? can you imagine? >> my phone is hot. i'm sure it's from how i am getting killed on social media. >> for what? >> but i know -- i know i'm right. if it were people b, like me, whose kid were getting shot by cops, this would have ended a long time ago. >> or never started. so -- or never started because people -- look. i know people say, oh, well, white people get killed by cops. yeah. well, if it's wrong, it's wrong. it doesn't matter what color they are. >> uh-huh. >> but if you look at what -- what happens in the country. and it's not that -- you know,
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people take videos. you have seen the videos of white people getting stopped by cops, dragging them down the street and still living. >> yesterday, in minnesota, they wound up taking him into custody. he dragged a guy by his arm and beat him with his own safety hammer. >> and it's not -- it's not a perfect world. so not every single time, you know, it's going to be a black guy or whatever. >> right. >> but when you look at most of the time, and you look at the treatment between the way -- the way police officers can, and do, treat people of color, especially black men, it's different. i have been with white people in the car and have gotten pulled over, and they will tell me, well, the police, they never talk to me that way. and i say, well, that's because you're white. and they never even thought about it. has never happened to them, until they are with me and they see the way a police officer treats me. not all of them. but there have been a number of them who do it. and all -- what does it take?
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what does it take, for you to treat anyone, and i am talking to police officers here, anyone, of any ethnicity, with respect? you are a public servant. i know it's a tough job, but you are a public servant. listen. after our talk last night, i had someone on from chicago, who is a former member of the chicago police department, former detective. and the way we talked about what happened in chicago. he feels completely opposite. the way we talked about, at the top of the show. he thinks it was not justified, at all. he thinks the kid was complying. he thinks, if you can't stand the heat, basically, you should get out of the kitchen and that chicago police have some of the best training in the world. and there was no justification for what happened. so, those -- that's the world we are living in right now. so i wwouldn't worry about soci media because some people are going to agree with you and then the haters are going to hate. and so, i wouldn't even bother with it. >> i am not bothering with it. look. here is the problem. chicago. they don't really need the
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training. they get it on the job. it's one of the most violent places in the world, in terms of being a police officer. they call chiraq for a reason. >> that is an old thing. they don't do that now. that's old. >> not because the numbers have improved. you know, i mean, look. they have real and -- i don't have to tell you, you lived there. but you know, you have an invested-gang culture. the states around it make it very easy, as a state of opportunity, to deliver guns even though the laws within that state are tough. and there are real problems but at the end of the day, it all goes back to the same thing. if you don't identify with the person on the other side of the situation -- >> yeah. >> -- there is always going to be trouble. >> twell, two things that you said. yeah, they have some of the strictest-gun laws. but the places around them -- >> yeah, don't. >> -- don't. and so, they are a major-metropolitan city. so, look, crime is going -- you are going to have more crime because there's more people. just like you'd have more crime in new york city than you would have in one of the suburbs.
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that's just -- that's just how it is for sheer numbers. but listen. the -- the gun laws are lax. a lot -- a lot of -- a lot of -- there are a lot of things and systems that failed chicago. and so, it's easy to -- you know, i think, for people. i'm not saying that you are. to blame it on one thing. it's the gang. it's guns. society failed chicago a long time ago. putting people into housing projects. just kind of storing them and then treating them like crap. not treating them as human. so, there is a -- there is a -- there is a history of -- of impropriety, if you will. or of wrongdoing in chicago. as there are, in many other cities. but chicago, i ever have to tel, i was surprised when i moved to chicago. i thought chicago, midwest, it would be, you know, hunky dory, the heartland. probably the most racist and i have lived in birmingham, alabama. baton rouge, louisiana. philadelphia, pennsylvania. sa st. louis, missouri. new york city. and by far, the most-racist city
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i have ever lived in is chicago, illinois. >> how so? >> because it's -- it is one of the most segregated cities. i lived on the north side. pretty much -- again, this is a generalization. and polarized cities in the country. and listen. i think dr. king said something very similar. civil-rights folks said something very familiar about chicago because they house people, number one, in housing projects and in certain neighborhoods. i lived on the north side of chicago. i had no idea i was moving from new york city. you know, which is new york city. i loived in chelsea, and it's like everybody is everybody. and so, i moved into the north side. this fun, little building or whatever, high rise, twin towers, it was great. i was the only black person in my building beside the doorman. i had no idea because i never lived in chicago. flight there was an issue. the civil rights movement never hit there, as it did in the south and people came up the -- the -- the northern corridor.
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it is -- chicago is not what you think. now, is it a beautiful city? absolutely. are there amazing people there? absolutely. architecturally, one of the most beautiful places -- cities in the country. and a lot of that's because of the fire and it's new and it's all mid-century, you know, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. and the lake. it's stunning to look at. and to live in, in the milddle f winter. i wouldn't want to do it again. >> lake-effect snow. >> but it is -- it is one of the most racist cities i ever lived in. one of the first nights i was there, i got pulled over by a police officer. threw me up against the car. for what? i said i just moved here. you have an out-of-state license. i said i just moved here. he said, welcome to chicago. the first night. >> that experience isn't going to help your perception. the only thing that is simple, all the problems are complicated, which is a big reason they have lasted so long. but another reason they have lasted so long, and they will
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endure, is because there is one, simple aspect to this. >> yep. >> if the majority comes to a point, where they say this has to change. if that becomes the demand, by the majority, then things change. >> yeah. it's got to be white folks. >> that's the majority. >> that's it. and it's got to be white folks. and it can't be the people -- we cannot have, what happened during george floyd, continue to happen. we have a lot of people saying, oh, my god, there is no excuse for that. look. he killed that guy. and then, almost a year later, half of them have gone away, have said, no, something must have happened. and this -- in the same piece of video. the same information. it does -- does -- none of that matters. that is a justification, in your head, to try to -- to try to explain away what happened. >> you know, van was on and he says there are many-more awesome people than there are bad people in this country. agreed. but, you know, the old expression, it only takes, for
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evil to flourish, is for good men to stand by and do nothing. and you look at what's happening on the right side of the aisle. and you tell me that we are moving toward the majority starting to recognize the needs of the minority. i don't see it. they have the worst kind of people gaining power, in that side of the aisle. their new, america-first caucus. it's getting scary, over there. >> well, let's just put it this way. in order for it to take root in the party, there has to be something about the party, and the people who ever in it, and even the people who are running it and the people who are part of it to allow that. because i don't think, again, as you and your social media. don't give me this democrat-liberal thing because i'm not. neither, am i conservative. but that doesn't happen on -- with democrats. it happens with republicans. you don't see racists and insurrectionists and white supremacists, and jews will not replace us, and blood and soil. you don't see that flourng,
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in the democratic party. >> yes, because you guys are trying to replace the white people. that's what they are selling. >> well, i am going to replace you right now. good-bye. >> don't talk to me. talk to the fop over on fox. i am going to pay the price for it. i love you, d lemon. >> thank you. i will see ya. i will see you this weekend, matter of fact. have a good one. this is "cnn tonight." i am don lemon. so you heard all that? i spoke the truth and everything. i love this country. love this country. but, what the hell is wrong with america? what is wrong with america? is this really the land of the free? seriously, is it -- you, tell me. are you free from fear of gun violence, tonight? i went for a walk, the other day, and i kept thinking about it. if i was in a mall, if i was -- how do i escape this if someone comes in?
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i mean, what's my escape route? why would we have to think about that in america? are you free to live your life? drive your car, without ending up dead, before the day is through? let me give you some numbers. if you -- if you think i am exaggerating here. there have been 147-mass shootings in this country, this year. and that is counting last night. another-eight people dead at a fedex facility in indianapolis. shot to death by a 19-year-old ex-employee, whose mother warned authorities a year ago that she'd feared he'd attempt suicide by cop. >> we heard three more shots. and then, my buddy levi saw someone running out of the building. and then, more shots went off. >> more numbers for you. 45-mass shootings in america, in just the past month. we can't even fit them all on
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this map. we can't fit all of them on this map, either. right? we don't even have a map that can fit all-45 shootings in the past month. that's how bad this, all, is. flags lowered, again. the country mourning, again. how many times is this going to happen? what -- what are we doing? america. land of the free, home of the brave. okay. what are we doing? one tragedy, after another. mass shootings, across the country. deadly-police encounters. the graphic videos, playing on a loop, in our heads. and all of it, coming after a year of covid. it seems like, no sooner do we raise the flags, and we just have to lower them, again, for another-national tragedy. think about what we've all seen.
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america has been under assault, for the past-100 days. the flags lowered at the capitol after the intersection. insurrection. when pro-trump rioters battled police, and stormed the halls of congress, hunting for lawmakers. hunting, yes, that's what i said, for lawmakers. that's -- that's what happened. the flag lowered to mark the deaths of americans lost to covid. more than 566,000 of them, as of tonight. the president and the vice president, paying tribute to them, the night before their inauguration. again, and again and again, and again and again. over the gun violence, that is taking the lives of americans, all across this country. three times, in just the past month. eight people dead. six of them, asian women in the atlanta area spa shooting. ten people, including a police officer, killed at a supermarket in boulder. and now, eight people dead, at
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that fedex facility in indianapolis. >> we have an active shooter, currently, at fedex. they're reporting at least five people shot. >> multiple people shot at fedex. information only at this time only one shooter, gunshot wound to the head. he is down. >> eight people, dead, in atlanta. ten in boulder. eight more in indianapolis. 26 people dead. 26 american families, mourning loved ones who went to work, to the supermarket, never came back. president joe biden frustrated. angry. calling gun violence in america, a national embarrassment. >> this has to end. it's a national embarrassment. it is a national embarrassment, what's going on. and it's not only these mass shootings that are occurring,
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every single day. every single day, there's a mass shooting in this -- in the united states, if you count all those who were killed out in the streets of our cities and our rural areas. it's a national embarrassment, and must come to an end. and one, last thing. the folks who own weapons, the folks who own guns. they support universal-background chebs. checks. ma majority of them think we should not be selling assault weapons. who, in god' name, needs a weapon that can hold 40 rounds or 20 rounds? it's just wrong and i am not going to give up till it's done. well, that is happening, as tensions are rising over deadly-police encounters, one after another. one after another, caught on camera. protestors out in the streets of brooklyn center, tonight, for the sixth-straight night. after the fate-police shooting of 20-year-old daunte wright. another video, i have to warn you, is disturbing.
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>> i'll tase you! taser, tase, taser! [ bleep ]. i just shot him. >> how many times do we see videos like that? how many times will we hear a mother, who got the phone call that she dreaded? the phone call, that would change her life forever. mourning her son. demanding justice. >> second-degree manslaughter is not okay. i'm not okay with that. that's not right. she murdered my son. my son is never going to come home. >> and as the wright family mourns, as protests continue. the case that shocked america's cons conscience is about to go to the jury, the murder trial of derek chauvin who kneeled on george floyd's neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds while he cried out, i can't breathe, and called for his mother.
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closing arguments, set for monday. that, as chicago is bracing for protests tonight over the police shooting of a 13-year-old, last month. now, there is a lot we don't know about what happened. but the police body-cam video is disturbing. it shows the officer, who fired the shot, repeatedly, shouting at adam toledo to stop. and shows him with something in his right hand, as the officer yells, again, for him to stop. before less-than-a-second later, firing his weapon once, and hitting adam toledo in the chest. police say what was in his hand is a gun, that was later recovered from behind the fence. >> stop! stop right [ bleep ] now! hey, show me your hands! drop it, drop it! >> 1001. >> an attorney for his family
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brooklyn center, minnesota, now. live pictures. protestors taking to the streets for the sixth night in a row after the deadly shooting of 20-year-old daunte wright by a police officer. and they're demanding answers now. meanwhile, these are pictures of chicago. live pictures of chicago right now. you see, people are marching in the streets. hundreds really turning out to protest the deadly-police shooting of 13-year-old adam toledo. the boy's family insisting there was no gun in his hand. and tonight, indianapolis is the latest-american city to experience the horror of a mass shooting. a gunman killing eight people at a fedex facility. police identifying the shooter as a 19-year-old employee. now, they are trying to determine why he opened fire. miguel marquez is in indianapolis right now for us. miguel, good evening to you. look. you were just covering, you know, brooklyn center. and now, you're here at -- at this thing, in a matter of a minute or two, eight people killed. others wounded. now, we have the identity of the gunman. what do you know?
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>> yeah, look. we know a few things about him. brandon holm, 19 years old, as you said. we know he worked at this facility, sometime, until last year. may have not have left there on the best of terms. we also know he was on police radar. in march of 2020, just last year, his mother called police here, in indianapolis, because they -- she was afraid he was trying to commit suicide by cop. the police went over. they checked it all out. they took a shotgun from him. and then, something they saw in the house or in his bedroom led them to call the fbi to come check it out. and see if there was any, sort of, extremist behavior. fbi interviewed him, the next month, april of 2020. said that there was no indication of extremist behavior, religious, or -- or any sort of terrorism so they closed the case. but it does -- they did not give that shotgun back, though. it does raise the question of how this individual got the gun. rifle, as far as we know. that killed the eight people
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here in very, very quick order. and how all this happened. why? why did he do it? so, those big questions, we're still waiting for. don. >> what do we know about the victims, miguel? >> i mean, you know, these are people who -- who -- who worked here for many years. some of them, not so long. eight people, so far, altogether dead. the oldest was 74. there were two 19-year-olds, among the victims. so, sons, daughters, fathers, mothers. it -- it is so much wiped away. so much promise, so much life wiped away, in one moment. and it just seems to keep happening, over and over. and it's frustrating to cover, it's frustrating to see. and it's sad that here we are, again. >> right on. miguel marquez. thank you very much. i am going to check on the protests in chicago, now. i want to bring in cnn's martin savidge. martin, i see, you are there
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marching along with some of the folks there. what are we learning? >> well, we are learning that people are very emotionally upset over the video that's been released of adam toledo's death. this was released, of course, yesterday. there was more protests that took place then. this one, today, is huge. it began, initially, people thought maybe, a couple hundred would show up. instead, it has been thousands of people that have shown up. this has been going on, don, for hours. it is continuing to go through the streets. we are on fullerton right now. and we're headed back to where a this all began. the reason this crowd is said to be dispersing is because it grew to be so large, they felt they didn't have enough of their own marshals to control and keep everybody safe. it's been completely peaceful. everyone's been loud. they have made their message clear. the anger against the police is obvious. but they want to keep it
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orderly, and now the crowd has grown so large, they said we have to disperse for your own safety. this is not a request by authorities but by those who organized this event. so, we are now heading back to where it all started. back to you. >> all right. martin savidge, in chicago. martin, we'll get back to you. thank you very much. we will continue to follow all of these stories. america is struggling to get through one tragedy after another. president biden says gun violence is a national embarrassment. and what point -- at what point, do we say, enough is enough?
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tonight, the nation experiencing the horror of another, mass shooting. eight killed in indianapolis. and in just this past month, alone, cnn is reporting, it shows that at least 45 deadly-mass shootings. president biden calling gun violence in america an epidemic but are we numb to it? we are still in the grip of a deadly pandemic. there is a lot to discuss with matthew doud. former chief strategist for president george w. bush.
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thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. something you tweeted. you said one of the greatest threats to our democracy and humanity is willful ignorance, its history, good and bad. about health concerns and data. about gun violence, systemic racism and sexism about voting and the myth of widespread-voter fraud. so the common denominator and you know, i talk about this. i actually just wrote about this in my book, about the ignorance that we don't know our history and we don't know facts. the common denominator is willful ignorance. talk to us about what it's doing to us. >> well, thanks, don. i mean, it -- the right combination is willful ignorance because there is ignorance of people that may not be aware of stuff. but where we're at today, especially among many of our gop leadership, is they are willfully ignorant. which means is they know the truth is they know the access to
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the truth, whether it's your whole lead-in about guns, which i don't think the american public is numb to but i think there is an element of leadership that's numb to it. but about the pandemic and whether or not we should wear masks and the need for vaccines. and about, which goes to police actions, about our history of racism and sexism and police brutality. and there's all the facts and all the data, and all the knowledge is there to point us in the right direction on policy decisions, on where we ought to go as a country. on all of that. but in order to preserve a certain attachment, there is a willful ignorance to that data. and there is a search out for bias, confirmation bias, to confirm a prejudice or -- or, otherwise, an inclination that you have. and to me, at the basis of all of it is that willful ignorance. >> yeah. it's weird, watching these pictures happen in brooklyn center tonight. it's happening there. it's happening in chicago, there are protests. and -- and i am sure there'll be
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some in minneapolis. you know, depending on the outcome of -- of the trial. but, listen. i was watching, chris, and michael smerconish was on and he made a point that i thought was pretty -- was -- was pretty profound. he said eight people died today from the fedex shooting. six people got blood clots from the j&j vaccine and we -- we shut it down, in the middle of a p pandemic. i mean, it's crazy, when you think about it. when you think about it that way. you know, we have eight people die, no one wants to do anything about gun violence. we have eight people die, 10 people die, 12 people die. we have six people die from a vaccine and they're like, got to halt it. what gives here? >> well, you know, speaking of being aware of history, don, today is the 58th anniversary of martin luther king's letter from birmingham jail. it's the anniversary today of that letter he penned and one of the things he said was injustice anywhere -- injustice anyplace is a justice -- injustice everyplace. and one of the things that is not often quoted that he said which goes, i think, to this
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point of why we are not getting anything done. which he said, using immoral means to attain moral ends is wrong. but as wrong, or even more wrong, is using moral means to preserve immoral ends. he said that, in that letter, he wrote 58 years ago today. and what's happening today, the use of -- and i would have to say, again, it's the gop. i'm not going to cast any blame on all. it's the gop, who continues to use a tradition of the filibuster. or tradition of the way things have acted, in order to preserve an immoral end. and the immoral end is the allowance of continued gun violence. the vast majority of the country supports gun reform. 70, 80%. the vast majority, the majority of gun owners, and i am a gun owner, as i have told you before, i have five rifles. the majority of gun owners support common sense gun reform. and why isn't it happening?
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because the republican party is a small minority of the republican party, which dominates them, continues to press forward on pushing forward this fiction that the second amendment, somehow, preserves all rights to own all weapons, at any time, any manner that you want. and i think that's the problem and it's -- it's frustrating because we have a vast majority that wants this and it's not happening. so in my view, this is a primary example of a broken democracy. and the only way out of it, don, as martin luther king wrote, is for all of us to understand that we share this. we're in a single garment of destiny. you know, an interconnection, a mutuality, that he wrote about. that is what he people have to realize. and until we do that and push our leaders to do what the country wants, we are going to be stuck here. so all of the fights over democracy. the fights over voter suppression. the fights over all that are, directly, linked to our ability to get done, what the country wants. >> yeah.
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i misspoke. i said six people died. six people got blood clots, didn't even die. but listen. i want to know, what is the impact of careening, from crisis to crisis, the way that we have -- have been doing? what is -- what's -- what's the damage here? because it -- we -- we careen from crisis, to crisis. and i feel, matthew, that we are living in a post-truth, post-reality society. where one side can't even agree on what reality is and what facts are. so, what is the impact from careening from crisis to crisis, like this? >> well, you know, to have a democracy, we have to, all, agree to the idea that we're supposed to pursue policies that affect the common good and in order to get the common good, we have to have a common set of facts. and as you say, when we don't have a common set of facts, we can't get to the common good and we can't preserve democracy. but, to me, what is the -- what's the biggest problem with this as we don't do anything about this, as gun violence
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happens day to day, week to week, i actually suggested today that i thought the president ought to leave the flag at half mast over the white house until the senate passes some gun bill. because all he is going to be doing is just raising it up and down. but fundamentally, i think the problem when we don't deal with these crises, and move from one to one. is that people lose complete faith and trust of the government's ability to get done what they want to get done. and so, in all of these people, rural, urban, suburban, black, white, hispanic, asian. every one of these groups wants it to happen and it affects all of us. whether you are going to a nightclub, a bar, a church, a synagogue, a temple, a convenience store, it happens in every one of these locations. when that doesn't happen, people begin to get very cynical and very distrustful and they lose faith in our democracy. and that, to me, is the most shattering of things that can happen, because we need people to participate, and be active. in order for this to happen. and when they don't see it
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happen, they become less likely to participate, over time. >> matthew, thank you. always appreciate your perspective. thank you so much. >> my -- my pleasure, don. so other families who have lost loved ones in police-involved shootings joining daunte wright's family in calling for justice, including the mother of philando castile. she joins me, next. ♪ (ac/dc: back in black) ♪ ♪ ♪ the bowls are back.
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streets of brooklyn center, again, tonight. for the sixth night, in a row. and -- okay. let's see. it looks like they are pepper spraying someone in the crowd. okay. hang on. let's listen to -- to what's happening here. so, apparently, they threw some bottles over the fence and we're told that some of the protestors got pepper sprayed. you can see, to the right of your screen, a woman there.
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and someone else is trying to help her with some water to help get the pepper spray out of her eyes. there is a curfew that takes effect, at the top of the hour, in brooklyn center. i think there is a -- there's one, again, tonight. last night, they didn't enforce it, as much as they had the nights before. but tonight may be different. again, it is a friday night. so, it's not a school night. so to speak. so, we are going to work to get our sara sidner up, who is on the scene. sara sidner joins me, now, live. sara, it's don lemon. what's going on? >> hey, don. i will jump in front of the camera, real quick. it has been one of the -- the most heart-wrenching. we saw many, many, many mothers who lost children to police violence. that was earlier in the day. and for hours, it's been a peaceful protest, until about-five minutes ago. five minutes ago, there was someone that threw a bottle of
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water. and someone that threw something else over the fence, and breached the second. there is a couple of different places that you can get closer to the officers. and so, once people breach that, sort of, second barrier, then, pretty much, all hell broke loose. i will let you get a look. there are officers, who have come up to the fence. you'll see, every time you see a large bit of smoke -- what looks like smoke coming over the fence, it's actually pepper spray. and then, you will hear flash bangs. and that happened just a few moments ago, where two flash bangs. one, that went over our head. and one, that was right in front of the gate there, that is sort of cordoning off the protestors and the police. separating them. but, it is -- you know, there is a lot of protestors here, who have been saying, do not throw things. there are a number of protestors, even those who are on the microphones. they are saying, do not cause a
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problem for us. we are out here to say all of the victims' names, and not to get into it with police. and yet, it happens. that, you know, you can't always control a crowd. and even if the folks that are here, that want things to be peaceful. it can be, you know -- it can be difficult. i'm seeing more pepper spray being sprayed. you can see it there. but that's the situation here. it was peaceful, literally, up until about-five minutes ago. >> okay, sara, thank you very much. sara, we are going to get back to you. we'll keep one eye on that. and if you hear anything, you need to jump back in front of the camera, we will get you. so thank you so much. so listen, we have been talking about all the families who have been dealing with this. the wright family sharing their grief with other black families who have lost loved ones in police-involved shootings and that includes valerie castile, the mother of philando castile, who was fatally shot by a police officer, during a traffic stop outside minneapolis, excuse me, in 2016. >> how do you keep having murder, after murder?
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we don't have time to recover. i'm mad as hell, again and again and again and again. >> valerie castile joins me, now. valerie, thank you so much. i appreciate you joining. >> thank you for having me, don. it's always a pleasure. >> we have -- we have -- absolutely. we have seen it, in the protests, this week. people are feeling their anger. they are feeling your frustration. why does this keep happening, in your community? >> i don't -- i don't know why it keeps happening. but, it's a simple solution, if their officers weren't as trigger happy as they are. and if they are trained to engage with the community, with respect and dignity, instead of
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teaching these cadets how to get away with murder. maybe, we wouldn't have to be out protesting. it's so simple, if you stop giving us things to protest for. we wouldn't be out there. we wouldn't have these problems, if you would correct some of the problems, within your training. or the way that you do your hiring process. or the lack of cultural sensitivity towards peoples, other than being a white police officer. >> uh-huh. i want to hear from another mother, now. daunte wright's mother, today. here it is. >> everybody asks what we want. and justice. yes, justice is definitely what we want. but i'm never gonna get justice. justice would be bringing my son home to me. justice would have been my son driving to the car wash and coming home, after that. i'm not going to get that. >> let's talk about justice
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because the officer who shot daunte wright has been charged with second-degree manslaughter. but wright's mother is demanding a murder charge. the officer that shot philando was found not guilty of -- of the same charge. so, what does justice mean to you? >> like she said, there is -- there is no-real justice. but i -- i feel like, if the police had something to lose, as well as i lost, i would be satisfied. you know, these guys keep doing what they are doing because they're not losing anything. they -- they lose absolutely nothing, because the bottom line is taxpayers pay those -- the settlement. you know, the police are not paying those settlements. the -- the community, the public, is paying those settlements. and they get their pension? you know what i'm saying? they're -- they're not losing anything. and up until they get their own
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insurance, and be liable for their own behavior. and what comes out of shooting someone, with intent to kill. then, maybe, we may see a shift in the way that they communicate and the aggressiveness that they show when they approach people of color. but i would like to see them have their own insurance because, if i knew that man was penniless and his children didn't have a future. his wife divorced him. i would be a happy camper. just knowing that he lost something, just as well as i lost something. but mine is -- is -- is more. i adored my son. nothing can bring him back. but if i knew that man was -- was -- was penniless, and out there, homeless, i would be okay with that. >> hmm. >> but there is -- >> valerie castile. thank you very much.
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document promises that they will, quote, work towards an infrastructure that reflects the architectural engineering and aesthetic value that befits the progeny of european architecture. this is so dumb. i can't believe i'm reading it, but it's dangerous. i guess i have to. they aren't saying the quiet part out loud. this is -- this is no quiet part anymore. this is what it is. the nativism and bigotry is -- that's the message. a spokesperson for greene complained about the initial draft of the flier being leaked but confirmed to someone that plans were in the works to form the group. and of course moments after the new caucus was confirmed, none other than embattled congressman matt gaetz tweeting, i'm proud to join m.t. greene in the america first caucus. other republicans speaking out tonight. congressman adam kinzinger, the lone one usually tweeting, just when i was hoping to take a long weekend away from crazy, i see
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the top of the hourment i want to get straight to chicago and brooklyn center where there are protests in the street. let's start with sara sidner in brooklyn center for us. hello. what is it like out there right now?
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>> reporter: hey. so everyone just started sprinting because a police line came out. there is no curfew that has been announced tonight, but there has been some bottles thrown, water bottles over the police line and some rocks and a few other things. and so they've been returning with -- the police have been returning the objects and pepper spray, a little gas. but then there was movement from police, and everyone just scattered, us as well. they have been saying there's an unlawful assembly. they have been telling people that they have to go home now because of the back-and-forth between protesters and police. and let me show you. i think -- yeah. let me just see if i can see whether that is the police. yeah, it is. let's try to get a little bit closer. >> be careful, y'all. >> reporter: thank you

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