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the big star d-lemon. people are on the streets taking a knee. i like seeing black and white together. i like seeing old and young. i like seeing constituencies coming together even if they don't share the same experience. when they get loud and yell at the police, nobody says everything you are supposed to say is polite. everybody lost that privilege after january 6th when they did not speak about what happened there. when they start yelling how this is a 13-years-old kid and he turned and had no gun in his hands, how is that right? they have every right. if you are not angry and outraged? >> you know what would be great? i like to see diversity, too. would it be great if it is all
middle-age white guys out there to say this to stop. >> my phone is hot. i know i am right. if it were people like me whose kids were getting shot by cops. this would have ended a long time ago or never started. >> or never started. i know people say, oh, white people get killed by cops. if it is wrong, it is wrong, it does not matter what color they are. people take videos, you see the videos of white people getting stopped by cops and running over them and dragging them around and still living. >> yesterday, a 60-years-old white guy in minnesota, taken him into custody, he looked fine. >> it is not a perfect world. not every single time it is going to be a black guy or
whatever. when you look at most of the time and you look at the treatment between the way police officers can and do treat people of color especially black men is different. i have been with white people in the car and gotten pulled over and they tell me, well, the police never talked to me that way. well, because you are white. they never even thought about it and has never happened to them until they are with me and they see the way police officers treat me. not all of them but a number of them. what does it take? what does it take for you to treat anyone and i am talking to police officers, anyone or any ethnicity with some repubspect. i know it is a tough job but you are a public servant.
>> the way we talk about what happened in chicago, they think it was not justified at all. if you can't stand the heat, you should get out of the kitchen and chicago police had some of the best training in the world and there was no justification for what happened. that's the world we are living in right now. i would not worried about social media because some people are going to agree with you and the haters are going to hate. i would not bother. >> i am not bothered with it, i am using as one as of many metr. >> chicago, they don't need the training. they are one of the most violent places of the world. and people are right to point it out. >> that's an old thing. they do it because they're looking for something new and not because the numbers have been improved. i don't have to tell you. you live here.
the states around it makes very easy. and there are real problems. at the end of the day, it goes back to the same thing, if you don't identify with the person on the other side of the situation, there is always going to be trouble. >> well, two things of what you said, yeah, they have some of the strictest gun laws but places around them. >> there are major metropolitan city, you are going to have more crimes just like there is more people. that's how it is for shared numbers. listen, the gun laws are laxed. there are a lot of things and systems that failed chicago. it is easy and i am not saying you are to blame it on one thing, society failed chicago a long time ago, putting people to housing projects and storing
them and treating them like crap and not treating them like humans. there is a history of wrong doing in chicago as there are in my cities. i have to tell you, i was surprised when i moved at the chicago. i thought it would be honky-dorie, it is one of the most racist city that i have lived in. st. louis, missouri and new york city and by far the most racist city i have lived in is chicago, illinois. >> how so? >> it is one of the most segregated cities. i lived on the north side. this is a generalization and polarized city in the country. i think dr. king said something similar about chicago. they house people in housing
projects and in certain neighborhoods. i live on the north side of chicago, i had no idea i was moving from new york city and in chelsea and everybody is everybody. i moved to the north side, kind of this fun little high-rise, twin towers, it is great. i was the only black person besides the doorman, i had no idea because i never lived in chicago. the police there is an issue and the flights there is an issue and the civil rights movement never hit there as they did in the south. chicago is not what you think it is now. is it a beautiful city? absolutely. are there amazing people there? absolutely. architecture rally one of the most beautiful places in the city and a lot of that because of the fire and it is new and it is all mid-century and blah, blah, blah and the lake. it is stunning to look at and to live in in the middle of winter,
i would not want to do it again. >> one of the most racist cities, i got pulled over by a police officer threw me against a car for what? i said i just moved here. you have an out of state of license, and he said "welcome to chicago." first night. there you go. >> the only thing i think is simple and all the problems are complicated which is a big reason they lasted so long. another reason they lasted so long and they'll endure is there is one aspect, if the majority comes to a point where they say this has to change, if that becomes the demand by the majority then things change. >> its got to be white folks, that's the majority. >> that's it. >> and its got to be white folks
and the people, we can't haves what happened during george floyd continues to happen. we have a lot of people saying oh my god, that's no sexcuse an he killed that guy. well, something must have happened, no, he was in the same piece of video. >> he's not who you told us. >> none of that matters. that's a justification in your head to try to explain away. >> van was on and he said there are more awesome people than bad people in this country. agreed. the old expression, it only takes for evil to flourish for good men to standby and do nothing. you tell me we are moving towards the majority starting to recognize the needs of the minority. i don't see. they have the worse kind of people gaining power on that side of the isle. it is getting scary over there. >> well, let's put it this way.
in order for it to take root in the party, there has to be some thing about the party and people who are in it or people who are running it and part of it to allow that because i don't think and again as you and your social media, don't give me this democrats or liberal thing a because i am not. that does not happen with democrats. it happens with republicans. you don't see racist and insurrectionists and white sup supremacists and jews will not replace us. >> because you guys are trying to replace the white people. >> that's what they are selling. >> i am going to replace you right now. good-bye. >> don't talk to me, talk to four names on fox. >> i love you, d. lemon. >> thank you, i will see you this weekend as a matter of fact. i love you as well.
this is "cnn tonight," i am don lemon. i spoke the truth and everything. i love this country, love this country. but, what the hell is wrong with america? thinks is this really the land of the free? you tell me. are you free from fear of gun violence tonight? went for a walk the other day and i kept thinking about it, if i was in a mall, how do i escape this if someone comes in? what's my escape route? why would we have to think about that? america? are you free to drive your car without ending up dead before the day is through. let me give you some numbers if you think i am exaggerating here. there has been 147 mass shootings in this country this
year. that's counting last night. another eight people dead in fedex facility in indianapolis by a 19-years-old ex-employee whose mother warned authorities that she feared who attempted suicide by cops. >> we heard three more shots and then my buddy levi saw someone running out of the building and more shots went off. >> 45 mass shootings in america in just the past month. we can't even fit them all on this map. we can't fit all of them on this map either. right? we don't even have a map that can fit all 45 shootings in the past month. that's how bad this all is. flags lower again. the country is mourning. again.
how many times is this going to happen? what are we doing? land of the free, home of the brave, okay, what are we doing? one tragedy after another. mass shootings across the country. deadly police encounters and graphic videos playing on a loop in our head and all of it coming after a year of covid, seems like no sooner do we raise the flags and we just have to lower them again for another national tragedy. # think about what is we have all seen. america has been under assault the past 100 days. the flags lowered at the capitol after the insurrection. when protrump rioters battled police and stormed the halls of congress hunting for lawmakers, yes, that's what i said, "hu
"hunting" because that's what happened. more than 566,000 of them. the president and vice president paying tribute to them the night before their inauguration. the flags lowered again and again and again and again over the gun violence that's taken the lives of americans all across the country just the past month. eight people dead. six of them asian women in the atlanta area spa shooting. ten people including a police officer killed at a super market in boulder and now eight people dead at that fedex facility in indianapolis. >> we have an active shooter at fedex. five people shot. >> they have an active shooter currently at fedex. >> multiple people shot at fedex
at 8951. >> eight more in indianapolis, 26 people dead. 26 american families mourning loved ones who went to work to the super market and never came back. president joe biden frustrated and angry, calling gun violence in america a national embarrassment. >> this has to end. it is a national embarrassment. it is a national embarrassment is what's going on. it is not only these mass shootings that are occurring every single day. every single day there is a mass shooting in the united states, if you count all those who are killed out of the states of our cities in rural areas. it is a national embarrassment and must come to an end. the folks who own weapons and guns, they support universal background checks.
majority of them thinks we should not be selling it. who in god's name need as weapon that can hold 100 rounds or 40 rounds or 20 rounds. i am not going to give up until it is done. st >> that's happening after tension is rising of police protest one after another. another video i have to warn you is disturbing. >> i will tase you. >> taser, taser, taser. >> oh [ bleep ], i just shot him. >> how many times do we see videos like that? how many times do we hear a mother who got the phone call that she dreaded? the phone call that would change her life forever. mourning her son, demanding
justice. >> second-degree man slaughter is not okay. i am not okay with that. she murdered my son. my son is never going to come home. >> and ass the wright family mourns as protests continued. the the murder trial of derek chauvin who kneeled on george floyd's neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds while he cried out "i can't breathe" and called for his mother. that as chicago is bracing protests over police shooting of a 13-years-old last month. the police body cam video is disturbing. it shows the officer who fired the shot repeatedly shouting at adam toledo to stop. and shows him something in his
right hand as the officer yells again for him to stop before firing his weapon and hitting adam toledo in the chest. police say what was in his hand is as gun that was later re recovered from behind the fence. >> stop, stop! >> show me your hands. an attorney for his family insists the boy did not have a gun in his hands at the time he was shot. we'll have much more live from chicago in just a moment .
holding a gun. the boy's family insisting there was no gun in his hand. indianapolis is the latest city to experienced the mass shooting. the shooter is a 19-years-old employee. now they're trying to determine why he opened fire. miguel marquez is here with us. you were just covering at the brooklyn center and now you are here and eight people killed and now we have the identity of the gunman. what do you know? >> reporter: brandon hole, 19-years-old, we he worked at t facility and we know he was on police radar, his mother called police here in indianapolis, she was afraid he was trying to
commit suicide by cop. police went over and checked it all out and they took a shotgun from him. something they saw in the bedroom that led him to call the fbi to check it out to see if there is any sort of extremist behavior. the fbi interviewed him april of 2020 and said there is no indication of extremist behavior or religious or terrorism so they closed the case. they did not give that shotgun back. it raised a quthe question of h this individual got the shotgun and killing people here and why? why did he do it? >> what do we know of the victims? >> some people who worked here.
the oldest was 74. there were two 19-years-old among the victims. sons and daughters and fathers and mothers. it is so much wiped away in one moment. i it seems to happen over and over and it is frustrating to see and here we are again. >> miguel marquez. thank you so much. i want to check in the protests in chicago and bring in cnn's martin savidge. more protests tonight. what are we learning? >> reporter: we are learning people are emotionally upset of the video that's released of adam toledo's death. this one is huge and people thought a couple would show up,
it has been thousands of people that have showed up. this has been going on for hours. it is continuing to go through this and we are headed to where this all began. the reason it started and said to be dispersing because it grew so large. they did not have enough of their own marshals to control and keeping everybody safe. it is completely peaceful and everyone has been loud and making their message clear. the anger against the police is obvious. they want to keep order and now the crowds have grown so large, they have to disperse for our own safety, we are now heading back to where it all started. >> back to you. >> we'll continue to follow all
tonight the nation is experiencing the horror of another mass shooting. eight killed in indianapolis. cnn reporting that shows at least 45 deadly mass shooting. president biden calling gun violence in america an epidemic. are we numb to it? we are still in the grip of the pandemic? a lot to discuss with matthew dowd. thank you so much for joining us. something you treated. one of the greatest threats of our humanity is willful
igno ignorance about health concerns and gun violence and voting and the myth of widespread voter fraud. so, the common denominator and you know i talked about this and wrote about it in my book that we don't know our history and facts. the common denominator is willful ignorant. talk to us about what it is doing to us. there is ignorance of people. where we are among especially among many of our gop leadership. they know the truth and ak cces to the truth. i don't think the american public know but there is an element of leadership that's numb to it.
it is about the pandemic and whether or not should we wear masks or the need of vaccines and police action about our history of racism and sexism and police brutality. and there is all the facts and all the data and knowledge there to point us in the right direction on policy decisions of where we ought to go as a country on all of that. there is a willful ignorance for that data and information bias to confirm a prejudice or inclination that you have. the bases of all of this is that willful anger. >> yeah. it is weird watching these pictures happening. it is happening in chicago and i am sure there will be some minneapolis depending on the outcome of the trial. listen, i was watching, chris,
and michael smerconish was on and he made a point that i thought was pretty profound. eight people died from the fedex shooting. six people got blood clot from the johnson & johnson vaccine in the middle of the pandemic. it is crazy when you think about it that way. you have eight people died and no one wants to do anything. when six people died from the vaccine and they're like oh, got halted. what gives here? >> today is the 58th anniversary of martin luther king's letter from birmingham jail. that's the anniversary of the letter he penned and one of the things he said injustice anywhere, injustice every place. one of the other things that's is not quoted which goes to the point of why we are not getting anything done. using immoral means to obtain
moral ends is wrong. using moral means to preserve immoral, what's happening today, the use of and i have to say again, the gop i am not going to cast on any blame on all. it is the gop who continues to use a tradition of the filibuster or the tradition of the way things enacted in order to preserve. it is the allowance to continue gun violence of the country. the vast majority of democrats and the majority of gun owner, i have five rifles. the majority of gun owners support common sense gun reform, why is it not happening? the republican party, a small minority party dominates them continue to press forward on
this fiction that the second amendment that all rights to own all weapons and any manner that you want. it is frustrating because we have a majority of the country, the vast majority that wants it and it is not happening. this is a primary example of a broken democracy. the only way out of it, don, as martin luther king wrote is for all of us to understand that we share this, we are in a single garment of destiny, mutuality that he wrote about. that's what people have to realize. until we do that and push our leaders to do what the country wants, we'll be stuck here. the fights overall that are linked to get done what the country wants. >> listen, i want to know what
is the impact of careening from crisis to crisis the way we have been doing. what's the damage here? we careen from crisis to crisis and i feel we live in a post reality society where one side can't agree in reality and what facts are. what's the impact? >> well, you know, to have a democracy we have to all agree to the idea that we are supposed -- in order to get the common good, we have to have a common set of facts. when we don't have a common set of facts, we can't preserve democracy. to me what is the biggest problem with this as we don't do anything is gun violence happens day-to-day and week to week, i thought the president ought to leave the flags at half mass
until the senate passes the bill. fundamentally the problem when we don't deal these crisis is that people lose faith of the government's ability to get done what they want to get done. when all of these people, black, white, asians and hispanics, everyone one of these groups want to happen and it affects all of us whether you go to a club or a bar or church or convenience store or a synagogue, it happens in every one of these locations, people begin to get cynical and disstrus full and they lose faith in our democracy and that to me is the most shattering of things that can happen because we need people to participate and be active in order for this to happen. when they don't see it happen, they become less likely to participate overtime. >> matthew, thank you, i always appreciate your perspective. >> my pleasure, don.
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effect at the top of the hour at brooklyn center, there is one again tonight. last night they did not enforce it as much as they had the night before but tonight is different. it is a friday night so it is not a school night so to speak. we'll go to work to get our sara sidner on the scene. sara, it is don lemon, what's going on? >> reporter: i will jump in front of the camera real quick. it is one of the most heart wrenching -- we saw many, many mothers who lost children to police violence. that was earlier in the day and for hours it has been a peaceful protest until about five minutes ago. someone threw abb bottle of wat and a couple of different places
that you can get closer to the officers and so once people breach that second barrier then pretty much all hell broke loose. there are officers coming up to the fence and you will see every time you see a large bit of smoke coming over the defense is actually pepper spray and you will here flash bangs. one went over our head and one right in front of the gate there that's some sort of cording off the protesters and police separating them. there is a lot of protesters here who have been saying do not throw things, there are a number of protesters and even those who are on the microphones. they're saying do not cause a problem for us. we are out here to say all of
the victims' names and not to get into it with the police and yet it happens. it can be difficult. i am seeing more pepper spray being sprayed. it was peaceful literally up to about 5 minutes ago. >> thank you, sara, if you hear anything we'll get you. thank you very much. listen, we have been talking about al the families who have been dealing with this, the wright family sharing their grieve with other black families who have lost loved ones. that includes valerie castillio. >> how do you keep having murder after murder? we don't have time to recover. i am mad as hell again and again
out there and we would not have these problems if we would correct some of the problems with them or the way that you do your hiring process. >> i want to hear from another mother, daunte wright's mother today. here it is. >> everybody asked what we want and justice is definitely what we want but i am never going to get justice. justice would be bringing my son home for me. justice would be my son driving to the car wash and coming home after that. i am not going to get that. the officer who shot daunte wright has been charged
second-degree murder. wright's mother is demanding for a murder charge. what does justice mean to you? >> there is no real justice. >> i feel like if the police had something to lose as well as i lost, i will be satisfied. these guys keep on doing what they are doing because they are not losing anything. they lose absolutely nothing because the bottom line is taxpayers pay those settlements. the police are not paying those settlements. the community, the public is paying those settlements and they get their pension, you know what i am saying? they're not losing anything up until they get their own insurance and what comes out of
shooting someone with intent to kill maybe we see a shift in the way they communicated in the aggressiveness they show when they approach people of color. >> just know that he lost something just as close as i lost something. i adore my son. nothing can bring him back. if i knew that man was penniless and out there homeless, i would be okay with that. >> valley castile, thank you very much, we'll be right back.
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so here we go. congresswoman marjorie taylor green's office announced they are bringing together a grm far right lawmakers meant to promote the new caucus and it reads like a manifesto of conspiracy and white supremacy. here are some of the low lights and i quote. america is a nation with a border and a culture of strengthened by a common respect for uniquely anglo saxon political traditions. i guess she forgot about the native americans. history has shown that societal trust and unity are threatened when they are imported en masse into a country. is she talking about europeans
being imported into the country of native americans? no. she doesn't really know history. while many attacks on immigrants, the document promises they will work toward an infrastructure that reflect the architectural engineering and aesthetic value that befits the progeny of european architecture. i can't believe i'm reading this but it's dangerous so i guess i have to. they are not saying the quiet part out loud. there is no quiet part anymore. this is what it is. the nativism and bigotry is, that's the message. a spokesperson for greene complained about the initial draft of the flier being leaked but confirmed to cnn that plans were in the works to form the group. of course, moments after the new caucus was confirmed, none other than embattled congressman matt gaetz tweeting, i'm glad to join mt green in the america first caucus. adam kindsinger usually tweeting, just when i was hoping
to take a long weekend away from crazy i see the completely disgusting. i see this completely disgusted. minority leader kevin mccarthy saying it is the party of lincoln and the party for more americans. not native dog whistles. suppression votes. the party of lincoln -- really. more like the party of trump. or the party of racists. one and the same. at least 45 mass shootings in a month. anger over police killings of people of color. manager is hurting right now. what it will take to get change?
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