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for 3.5 to 4.5 years. incredible. the department of justice is herolding this plea that comes 100 days after the capitol attack. thank you for joining us. you can watch "outfront" any time on cnn go. thanks for watching. "ac 360" starts now. there is no way in good conscience to use the word good evening tonight but there are many words to choose from, mournful, tearful and as a country, shameful. good is simply not one of them. not after what happened overnight. when we began this program last night, we noted that between the police killing of doaunte wrigh, the trial of derrek chauvin and the police shooting of a seventh grader, it was a lot and late last night a gunman opened fire at a fedex facility in india indianapolis. eight people were killed by a 19-year-old former employee and several wounded or hurt. countless more tonight are living the nightmare of losing someone close and the toll
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extends beyond the victims and next of kin. this we know from experience. the shock waves they ripple out over time and distance. 14 years ago tonight the country was reeling from the loss of 32 lives at virginia tech university. do you remember that shooting? a month ago we watched the horrible images from two mass shootings in and around atlanta. seems along time ago, doesn't it? mass shootings are so common it may be soon hard for one not to fall on the anniversary of another. this is a map of mass shootings in just the last month, which were defining as four or more people shot, wounded or killed excludeing the gunman. one other thing to note, there is only room on the map to show a little less than half. the full count, again, over just a single month since the atlanta shootings is 45 and the map is profound as it might be doesn't do justice to the story. doesn't capture the horror. doesn't capture the wounds and
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the deaths of so many americans. the map doesn't tell the story of the five people who were shot and wounded on march 17th in stockton, california, or the four shot in gresham oregon a day later. in houston on the 20th five shot at a nightclub in dallas, eight shot and one killed in philadelphia that night someone opened fire at a party killing one and wounding five, at least 150 others fled for their lives and on march 22nd in could aera a gunman opened fire at a supermarket killing ten including a local police officer. >> the consequences of all this are deeper than i suspect we know. by that, i mean the mental consequences. the feeling of -- anyway, just through too many of these. >> just three nights later, two gunmen opened fire outside a bar in milephiladelphia wounding se. that same night five were shot and three killed in memphis. three shootings in virginia beach left eight wounded and two
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dead four wounded that night in norfolk, two gunmen, killed one and wounded seven in chicago all on the 26th of march. the next day in river george, illinois a mass shooting on a party bus killed one, wounded three. at a night club in mississippi a shooter wounded six and that afternoon four people were shot in chicago. in essex maryland on march 28th a man fatally shot his parents killing two of them and another four shot and wounded on a highway and in cleveland seven people shot at a nightclub. one time, one night in america. except it wasn't. five shot, two killed in d.c. on the 31st. four killed at an office complex in orange, california. one of the victims a 9-year-old boy. on april 3rd, seven wounded near a nightclub in quincy, florida. five wounded in talabama andfour
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shot the next day in beaumont, texas and in alabama an argument spiralled out of control, 30 shots fired at a local park. one killed and five wounded including four children. in monroe, louisiana, that same night, six shot and wounded at a local bar. april 5th, five shot and wounded in baltimore, one killed, three wounded on the 6th in detroit. two shot, two killed on the 7th in milwaukee. also that day in rockhill, south carolina, former nfl player killed five people. you probably remember that one including a prominent doctor, his wife and their two young grandchildren. >> i've lived in rockhill my entire life and dr. leslie was my doctor growing up, so that's how this is kind of a little hard on me. so -- dr. leslie has been one of those people everybody knows. >> everybody knows him. now he's dead. sheriff's office spokesman speaking there. his boss, the sheriff said, there is nothing about this right now that makes sense to any of us. april 7th, rockhill, south
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carolina on the 8th in brian, texas a gunman killed one and wounded five others at a cabinet manufacturer said one worker who walked towards the popping noises that thought it was machin machinery malfunctioning, i started walking and someone grabbed me and said no, we need to run. on the 9th in fort worth, one killed, five injured during a shootout on the freeway. four shot, wounded on the 10th in michigan, four shot and wounded in water berry, connecticut, one killed three others wounded at a convenience store in missouri and one killed and three wounded in memphis on in seattle a toddler and three others hit by gunfire in a parking lot and in the following four days ten more people would be killed and 25 wounded. six more mass shootings including the latest one overnight. barring drastic changes or am mir miracle, it will not be the last and in as little as a few days it won't be the latest but where
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we begin with cnn's miguel marquez. >> reporter: in less than a couple of minutes. >> he just appeared to randomly start shooting. >> reporter: eight more lives lost in america's latest mass shooting. >> he was firing in the open, and i immediately ducked down and got scared and my friend's mother, she came in and told us to get inside the car. >> we heard three more shots and then my buddy levi saw someone running out of the building and then more shots went off. >> reporter: the suspect, officers say, has been identified as a 19-year-old man who was a former employee at this fedex. they say he entered the sprawling facility near the indianapolis airport just after 11:0 o0 p.m. last night after opening fire in the parking lot killing four, he killed another four inside. seven more injured in the rampage. >> he got out of his car and pretty quickly started some random shooting outside the
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facility. there was no confrontation with anyone that was there. there was no disturbance. there was no argument. >> reporter: police say he used at least one rifle. they responded within minutes to what they described as a chaotic crime scene. the gunman had already killed himself inside the building. >> i'm a little overwhelmed. >> reporter: the fbi is assisting local police in searching the gunman's home and car. cnn learned he was known to federal and local officials after a family member reached out to them warning of a potential for violence. >> we've recently identified him so now the work really begins trying to establish some of that and see if we can figure out some sort of motive in this but we don't have that right now. >> reporter: family members of victims and those who worked at the facility gathered at a nearby hotel as police work to identify the victims. the facility, the second largest hub in fedex's global network with more than 4500 employees. in a statement, fedex said the company is deeply shocked and
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saddened by the loss of our team members. >> nothing we learn can heal the wounds of those who escaped with their lives but who will now bear the scares and endure the memories of this horrific crime. >> miguel marquez joins us not far from the scene. what more do we know about the interactions the shooter had with federal law enforcement in the past? >> reporter: yeah, we know in march of 2020 the shooter's mother called police here in indianapolis and said he had the to term, he wanted to commit suicide by cop essentially. police came around and checked everything out. they confiscated a shotgun at the time. it also prompted something they saw in the house or in his room prompted them to contact fbi. they interviewed him a month later. they found no evidence of extremism, religious or violence of any sort so they dropped the case, but he kept the gun. they did not give the gun back
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but now the question will be where did this gun come from? how did he get it and could all of this have been prevented? anderson? >> miguel marquez, thank you. ally brown is a member of the indianapolis city county counsel and joins us now. counselor brown, thank you for joining us. when you woke up this morning and heard another mass shooting had taken place, what did you think? >> i was shocked. i was shocked and i was saddened. this is the third mass shooting that we've had in indianapolis this year. i was heart broken and then i was angry because this is the third mass shooting we've had in indianapolis this year and it seems that we can't stop it. >> would you be surprised if this happened again in indianapolis three months from now? >> i don't want to say that i would be surprised. i'm just saddened and shocked and it's -- we live in a culture where there is too many people
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who have too many needs and have the ability to access guns instead of accessing mental health care or other assistance they need so i'm afraid that it might. >> what are you hearing from people in your community tonight? >> you know, people here in indianapolis are frightened. they are scared. they're sad. saddened is definitely a big thing. you can feel it everywhere today. we always say, you know, you always feel like this can't happen here. this is now happened here three times this year. we had a school shooting here coming up on the third anniversary north of us in noblesville. we should acre knowledge this does happen here and we have to do better in trying to stop it but people are hurt. this is -- inl nadianapolis is g city but feels like a small town and everybody knows somebody that works at a fedex plant. it a hard day. >> and again, these are early reports but from what miguel was
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saying, it sounds like some member of the family of this particular shooter, you know, reached out to law enforcement and did the right thing and raised their concerns to law enforcement and this person was on the radar of federal, local officials and yet, still this happened. what needs to be fixed? >> well, indiana has some of the most lax gun laws in the country but we have the red flag law. that's what went into effect when his family member called, the police investigated and able to take away his weapon a year ago. the problem is that in indiana you only have to do background checks when purchasing a weapon at a gun store. there is a loophole, we call it the gun show loophole where you can buy a gun at a gun show without a background check and buy a gun person to person and you can go on facebook and find a gun and not have to show an i.d. it harder to get a vaccine than a gun because at least you have to show i.d. for that.
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no matter how proactive the police can be without being able to close the loopholes, we're 70% of indiana gun owners support closing the gun show loophole. we can't do anything to do someone that gets a gun another way. >> do you think this shooting will change anything? >> i hope so. i hope so. it's -- you know, this is something that a lot of us lived with the majority of our life. i was in eighth grade when columbine happened and in college when virginia tech happened and a teacher when new town happened and surely when a bunch of kind er gartners were massacred in their class, you thought something would happen. the hundreds and hundreds of people that died, i don't know what it's going to take. i called on the state legislature as an indianapolis counselor, they took rayaway ou ability to do gun laws. we can't protect our own people.
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we need state leg slayislators something about this. we need the senators to back up on the universal background checks. we need this. the police are asking for it. until we do something, until we step up and say enough is enough, we're not going to be able to do anything here. >> counselor brown, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. next, more on the politics of trying to, if not end then at least limit gun violence and what the president plans to do about it. later, a live report from chicago protesters gathered in the wake of a police shooting of a 13-year-old and marjorie taylor greene, the qanon congre congresswoman's latest effort revivaling an old movement to push for what she is calling the quote anglo saxen political tradition.
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what a familiar place to a familiar subject so is president biden dating back to the 1980s and dealing with a phenomenon of
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americans targeting other americans in large numbers. >> this has to end. it's a national embarrassment, it is a national embarrassment what's going on and not only these mass shootings that are occurring, every single day, every single day doctor is a mass shooting in the united states if you couldn't all those who are killed out in the streets of our cities and our rural areas. it's a national embarrassment and must come to an end. >> joining us on the politics of what to do about it, cnn poll lit tic bo g gloria borger. in terms of political capital, often times it's got to be focused. >>borger. in terms of political capital, often times it's got to be focused. >> it does have been to be foep
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k focused and you can hear the frustration in the president's voice. david remembers this as well as i do, after new town joe biden was put in charge of getting some form of gun regulation put under president obama and i heard the same frustration from him then and he did not succeed. he tried to get universal background checks. he tried to do even more than that and he could not do it and here we are all these years later and he is saying exactly the same thing. now he's president, yes. now he has an agenda, yes. but i think he's right. i think you can do more than one thing at a time, and we don't know yet whether the ground has shifted a bit. the nra has been having its own problems. the democrats control both the house and the senate. will they be able to get some kind of a compromise? yes, maybe a little less than
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what democrats want but will they finally be able to do something and will the president of the united states say enough is enough and maybe we have to end the filibuster so not everything takes 60 votes to get through the congress. >> david, you've seen this from the inside. what did you learn? >> i learned to be very deeply skeptical about whether things can get done and i've talked to democrats and republicans in the senate today, anderson, and neither side at this juncture can count to ten republicans to support a bill. joe mansion tried after new town to make all commercial sales of guns subject to background checks. he did it in a bipartisan buy s basis with senator too mmey. it got 54 votes. even though the polls are overwhelming on thisasis with senator toomey. it got 54 votes.
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even though the polls are overwhelming on this , the politics haven't changed. this is a cultural issue for the right. it's a bit like masks. it freedom versus public health and they haven't really shifted much on this so it is numbing to be sitting here with you again talking about these stories. they come so fast that you can barely remember last week's mass shooting, but the politics is not shifting, and i am not optimistic a compromised will be reached. chris murphy the senator from connecticut is working hard to find a compromise. i do think that the white house is spending most of its political capital on the infrastructure plan, that is the biggest thing in front of them right now and i think joe biden has a sense, a realistic sense of what is doable here. >> yeah, gloria, david talked about chris murphy, the lead sponsor of the background bill in the senate. he's open to compromise on this.
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he says he's been talking to republicans for several weeks but swaying enough republicans to get a version of his bill passed is, you know, not easy. >> it's difficult. it's difficult. and, you know, the problem is that republicans over these years have become more and more dug in. as david points out, guns have become a cultural issue. if you say you want to do universal background checks and 90% of the public says yeah, we think that's a great idea, you have a large group of republicans who see that as somehow taking away their second amendment rights, taking away their freedom, which is the keyword here. we hear it used with masks as david points out and somehow this becomes an issue that republicans can run on. i mean, remember after parkland, donald trump was saying oh, yeah, yeah, we're going to get something done on gun reform, right? he had all the parents in. they met with him in the white house, and what did he do?
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you know, some regulatory ban on bump stocks after he met with the nra. >> yeah. >> didn't do anything. >> anderson, anderson, we should point out that even in this week the house, the state house in texas voted to do away with permits to carry a gun. this was just passed verecentlyn tennessee and says you have to have a permit to carry a gun concealed or unconcealed and go through training and have your fingerprints taken. this law would do away with that. this is in the face of what we've seen. that tells you where the temperature is among the right on this issue. >> yeah. gloria borger, david axelrod, appreciate it. chicago grieving tonight. protesters angry over the shooting of 13-year-old adam tee l toledo. we'll is a live report from chicago when we come back. toled. we'll is a live report from
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>> protests in chicago after a video released showing the final moments of 13-year-old adam to toledo. what is the reaction in the community to the body cam footage released yesterday? >> reporter: let me show it to you, anderson.
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it playing out in the streets of chicago. this is milwaukee avenue. this began at logan square. there are thousands of people and the crowd has continued to grow. it is not just the death of adam toledo that brought them out on the streets. his is one death of many that they believe people who died at the hands of chicago police and died wrongfully, in many cases, this crowd believes they were murdered by police much in the way many of them see the death of adam toledo. this protest is just now getting started. the reactions, though, are still, very, very visceral. many people can't believe they watched the death of a 13-year-old. we warn you what you're about to see is hard to watch. this is the moment when police killed 13-year-old adam toledo. newly released body cam video showing the officer identified as eric stillman firing one shot as toledo raised his hands in the air. police say this image shows
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toledo was holding a gun before stillman shot him. and they say that gun was found nearby after the shooting. but look closer when toledo raised his hands, he did not appear to be holding anything. police say that toledo was holding the gun less than a second before he raised his hands. the family's attorney says they won't know if what toledo had in his hands was a gun until they have the video forensically analyzed but says it doesn't change what happened. >> that child compiled. adam compiled with the officer's request, drop the gun, turned around, the officer saw his hands up and pulled the trigger. >> reporter: officer stillman's lawyer says the officer was left with no other option and feels horrible about the outcome. but he was well within his justification of using deadly force. >> that officer had .8 of a second to determine if that weapon was still in his hand or not. the officer does not have to
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wait to be shot at or shot in order to respond and defend himself. >> reporter: police say that they were responding to alerts of shots fired in the early morning hours of march 29th. surveillance video appears to show someone shooting toward a car. the new body cam video shows the chase that ensueded moments after officers arrived on the scene. prosecutors are now charging a 21-year-old man with to ledo at the beginning of the video. the gun matched the shell casings found at the first location where the car was fired on. and that toledo's hands and gloves dropped by the older suspect tested positive for gunshot rest dee. the white house called the video chilling. >> too often law enforcement uses excessive force of black and brown people. >> we also learned new information about how long it took for adam toledo's family to hear what happened to him from
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authorities. >> reporter: right. according to authorities and the family, they say it was 2.five days before the family of adam toledo was notified of the boy's de death. the reason is toledo didn't have identification and apparently the man that was with him gave the wrong identification. it's one more tragedy compounding both the sadness and the anger felt on the streets of chicago tonight. >> martin sa salve vague, appreciate it, thank you. i want more from an associate professor at the department of psychiatry. when it comes to a police officer like you see in the video from chicago in a foot chase, what happens to a person's brain in a situation like that and how does training impact the decisions they might make? >> thank you for having me.
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you know, it's a great question. we have all brains, police officer's brains are like ours and i like to show people when i go to court and testify. this is our brain but this is not our brain under stress. when you're under stress and under threat, you no longer have the part of your brain where you do critical thinking. you're really left with this part of your brain and that part of your brain is really early and it's programmed to let you freeze, run or fight. fight, flight response. >> what is that part of the brain called? >> that part of the brain is a center of the brain that identifies the world only in black and white terms, something is a danger or not. in those split seconds, you run, freeze or fight and we train police officers not to run away if they freeze, they die. and so they move like military folks. so it's a terrible incident but it is both unreasonable from a biological front and unfair to
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expect a police officer in .8 of a second to stop when they initiated an activity to defend themselves. >> i've been in situations where my adrenaline was, you know, at the highest volume imaginable and very, you know, some dangerous situations, and i was not -- i knew i was not thinking -- i didn't know in the moment but i was not thinking clearly. i was not responding. i was hearing things differently than they were actually sounding. you're saying that's essentially what happens, that it's a very primitive part of your brain that's in play? >> absolutely. sometimes under stress sounds go away, you get tunnel vision. those are all side effects of a turnover, a chemical in our brain but it's a side effect having a high rush of adrenaline and cortisal in our brain. we don't get smarter under stress. i get stupid faster than other people under stress but we lose
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an ability to think calmly and think through things when we're under a high adrenaline. so it's part of our brain that doesn't function. >> the science is fascinating, but, you know, in reality, police officers are going to be under stress. this is an incredibly stressful job just as anybody, you know, this can be anybody under tremendous stress. so how does training come into play here? >> personally, i think training for police officers needs to take into account how we think and function under stress as humans. we resort to what we know and what we've done by habit. so most training really emphasizes, you know, moving at a threat, using a web, things like that and under stress that's what people resort to so perhaps training could begin with more activity based on deescalation and something not as threatening, not as lethal and adding the training later
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because the decisions that police departments make right now are in response to the threats they perceive and unfortunately, as you know, guns are available. right? so the police feel they have to respond to threat, but i think training should take some of what we know from neuro science into account, but we do have to ask ourselves in society what do we want from our police? because it unreasonable to expect them in those moments to suddenly stop and think and do monday morning second guessing, right? >> also, i mean, when you see that video, and it's horrific no matter how you view it, the amount of time we're talking about here, i mean, it's all happening so fast from them showing up on the scene to the chase to, you know, him yelling at the kid to freeze and then from the time, you know, he turns around, it's just -- they say it a second from the time they believe he had a weapon in his hand to being shot.
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>> and it's kind of unfair. it happened so fast but in today's technology, we freeze a frame and you see it, and one way we think is we call it a vividness bias. we see something and it's striking and vivid and we can see it in our mind and we've given it an enormous amount of weight and we stop thinking about it in connection. so this happens in the blink of an eye from the officer's perspective. he's running and chasing and says drop it and, you know, the child turns and in that split second, it's impossible to know whether he's dropped the gun. does he have a gun but he's turning and it's a threat? but with the technology, they slow it down and you see the image, we sit back and look at it and go oh, he could have stopped. but it just not true in real life. >> interesting. i would like to continue this discussion because it's fascinating what you do and fascinating learning about how
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our brains actually change what we would normally do or could possibly do. dr. charles morgan, appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. what republican congressman marjorie taylor greene is planning with like-minded members of congress and how there is immediate push back from her own party. details when we come back. renae runs with us on a john deere 1 series tractor. because out here, you can't fake a job well done. hear renae's story at
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the far right fundraising qanon raising congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is launching america first. a flier circulating on capitol hill promoting the group calls for quote common respect for uniquely anglo-saxon political traditions and push as series of conspiracy theories about election inthanksegrityintegrit. kevin mccarthy said america is built on the idea we're created equal and success is earned through honest hard work and isn't built on identity, race or religion and the party of more opportunity for republicans. i want to get perspective from former republican congresswoman nia love and cnn po nrknn polit analyst. there is language in there as we mentioned about quote uniquely
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an or anglo-saxon traditions, what does that mean to you? >> whether someone like me would be included. would i be able to join a caucus like that? you know, anderson, in 2018, i was concerned about -- i wrote an op ed about this and concerned about the republican party not reaching out to minorities enough and how that was going to hurt the nation, not just the party and i can't believe how far below the mark we've fallen not only are we not reaching out to black communities but it seems like we have not been able to even define our policies where people like marjorie taylor greene are taking over the party and condensing it instead of expanding the party that i actually signed up to belong to. >> kirsten, when you heard this stuff, it's not a surprise coming from this particular congressperson but what did you think? >> well, i mean, i think, you know, first you think of it's not even really you can call it a dog whistle but it's not
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really a dog whistle. it's an explicit prowhite statement and what she's referring to the anglo-saxon traditions, we usually think about white anglo-saxon and it's not talking about people like mia and not talking about people who built this country, the people who were brought here against their will, black people, the people who then came in in waves of immigrants, the types of -- the way -- the types of people she is now demonizing. they are the people that built this country. she's trying to harken back to this idea that's very european centric in the flier it talks about having more european style architecture and stuff like that and so our identity we're importing all of these people from another country and how
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dangerous it is. it's not even -- it's not even cloaked language. it very explicitly racist. >> yeah, and congresswoman lovett, marjorie taylor greene is basically a fundraiser. she's basically just, you know, a provoker to exist on twitter and raise money and empower herself and grow her name and brand. >> well, she should be a political activist. she shouldn't be a member of congress representing people, and look, listen -- >> that's so old fashioned, though. that's so boring and you actually have to be on committees and research and read and meet with people and think of ideas, not your own and consider and change your mind. no one wants to do that anymore. she certainly doesn't. >> that's exactly what we actually need right now in america. i mean, we need people to actually research and look up and actually know what policies like immigration is going to do
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to help our economy. what inclusive policies are going to do to bring people to come along with us. this is essentially, it's really frustrating because as a former member of congress, i respected everyone and understood they had a distriktdct to represent thaty be diverse thinking from my district but what we did is we actually respected one another and understood to get anything done, not only did we have to work with democrats but have a good amount of republican members in the house to debate ideas. and when you're condensing and pushing people out of even your own party, that does nothing for you, your policies or this country. >> yeah, i mean, kirsten building your brand and making money and she's making a ton of money and raking in money on these kind of stunts, building a brand is not getting anything done? >> she's caring for the idea.
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she really encapsulates trump, this is the same kind of argument tucker carlson is making at fox news, right? this idea that we're being replaced and americans are being replaced by people from another country, that immigration and undocumented immigration and illegal immigration is replacin republican party an audience for this so the question is how much of this does affect the rest of the republican party? they have come out and condemned her but they were not willing to punish her in any way. that was left to the democrats. so i think that she is carrying the pmantle of trump-ism but tht is also a critical part of what this is about, this caucus in
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particular. >> kirsten powers and mia lover, thank you. more on one of the gop congressmen that signed onto the america first caucus, matt gaetz and what he's saying about the federal investigation he's under, at least those congressmen willing to still talk to him. new reporting from "the washington post" how the probe began when we continue. ossible with a cfp® professional. a cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. visit to find your cfp® professional. ♪
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several republican congressmen have told cnn that congressman matt gaetz is privately telling his colleagues that he's being treated unfairly. that he's cooperating with the federal probe about whether he broke sex trafficking laws and had sex with a 17-year-old. a few of his republican colleagues are speaking with gaetz and several more moderate members are donating campaign contributions gaetz gave them. there's a fascinating story about how this investigation
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unfolded. matt, did i ruin your last name? >> zapatosky, pretty close. >> i appreciate your forbearance on that. in your article you speak with a local teacher who was running against jason greenberg for tax collector. was falsely accused by greenberg of having an inappropriate relationship with a student. how did this ending up leading to congressman gaetz. >> the federal authorities were investigating mr. greenberg predating this allegation. but mr. greenberg is running against this schoolteacher. authorities would learn he fabricates this allegation against a schoolteacher, fabricates evidence. the schoolteacher and his lawyer put it in front of federal authorities by way of the sheriff's office and federal investigators decide, hey, we have cause to arrest mr. greenberg. and in searching mr. greenberg's devices, his electronic devices, his records, they come across
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evidence that points at mr. gaetz and sex trafficking. at that point the investigation into mr. greenberg has nothing to do with sex trafficking. it's about some allegations of financial impropriety that predate the stalking allegation and then he's arrested on a stalking charge. but just in searching through this tax collector's devices, and he's a friend of mr. gaetz, they come across evidence that says, hey, maybe we should investigate mr. gaetz. >> that is just fascinating. you also wrote that jason greenberg was known in florida for strange behavior. he even wore some sort of a badge and used it to pull over a woman who was speeding, according to your reporting? >> yeah, that's right. joel greenberg even before the feds were onto him had developed a reputation. he rises to power very quickly in florida around the time matt gaetz becomes a congressman but his eccentricities become known around the tax collector's that he now leads.
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he wears a badge around the office. he institutes open carry, carrying firearms in the tax collector's office. in his neighborhood, according to a police report, he pulls over this woman in what appears to be a private vehicle with a light bar on it, shows a badge like a tax collector badge and yells at her. he alleges that she's speeding. she ends up calling the police saying i got pulled over in this weird way, i don't know what this is about. the police find it wasn't a law enforcement officer who pulled her over, it was joel greenberg. they investigate him but don't charge him for impersonating a police officer. so he was kind of known as an eccentric guy but he was very close and friendly with matt gaetz and then his woes kind of lead federal investigators to be interested in matt gaetz. >> how similar are they? you write they're kind of cut from the same cloth. >> yeah, they are. they're both of both young, brash politicians. they come from wealthy florida families.
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gaetz' family, his father don gaetz is florida republican royalty. joel greenberg's family is not politically connected that way but own a wealthy dental practice down there in florida. they're not afraid to speak their mind. most germane to this, people in florida tell us they have been known to party together. matt gaetz would, according to these people, brag about how joel greenberg would set him up with women. they were both kind of in the trump orbit. you know, matt gaetz talked about how joel greenberg would be a great elected representative of office beyond the tax collector. so these guys are similar, and now their legal woes are kind of enmeshed. we don't have any evidence that matt gaetz is connected to the various wrongdoing at the tax collector's office that joel greenberg is accused of, but joel greenberg is indicted on a sex traffic of a minor charge.
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matt gaetz is being involved in that same charge. >> there's a couple of points in your story my jaw is just dropping. it's so fascinating, i appreciate it. >> thank you. authorities have just released the names of victims from indianapolis. more on that ahead. help share the load. wealth is saving a little extra. worth is knowing it's never too late to start - or too early. ♪ ♪ wealth helps you retire. worth is knowing why. ♪ ♪ principal. for all it's worth. vo: calling all builders, all welders, and roofers. engineers and electricians. calling all brick masons and boiler makers. steel workers and steam fitters your country is calling you to rebuild america.
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moments ago indianapolis police released the names of eight victims killed last night in the mass shooting at a fedex
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facility. 32-year-old matthew r. alexander, 19-year-old somaria blackwell, 66-year-old amar, 64-year-old jaswinder kour, 68 years jaswinder singh, amarjit skhon, carly smith and john weisert. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "primetime." protests over the police killing of daunte wright have stretched into a sixth night in brooklyn center, minnesota. now there are also protests tonight in chicago, echoing the laments of those on the streets of minnesota about a life taken too soon. this time, it was a police shooting that happened last month involving 13-year-old adam toledo. body cam video of his killing was released yesterday, hence the protests now.