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apparently this all starting bat 11:00 last night. that's when the calls initially came in. the suspect started shooting the minute he got inside this parking lot. got into the parking lot. started shooting. got inside. continued to shoot as well. by the time police arrived at the scene of the fedex facility, they say he almost immediately took his own life. one of the eyewitnesses here at the scene said he heard the gunshots, briefly saw the shooter and took cover. >> and he was firing at any -- in the open. i immediately ducked down and got scared and my friend's mother, he -- she came in and told us to get inside the car. >> again, police say eight dead. we now have an update on the number transported to hospitals. it's now five transported to local hospitals.
initially four. now five. one in critical condition. but it's also clear that these numbers are going to change simply because there are a number of walking wounded. people who were injured inside or in the parking lot and took themselves to the hospital. investigators trying to get a handle on that. a family reunification center was set up at a holiday inn express not far from where we are right now. a number of fedex family members were there trying to be reunited with the employees. some of these employees aren't allowed to have cell phones on the floor of the facility and so when the shooting broke out, they ran out and were unable to reach their loved ones. so they are working on that. we've been in contact with one of the clerks at the hotel calling and texting, going back and forth. one of the clerks telling us that he is now hearing that the employees are going to be heading to the hotel within the next hour so they'll be able to
be reunited with their family members. we did get a statement from federal express. going to read that to you. it says we're deeply shocked and saddened by the loss of our team members following the tragic shooting at our fedex ground facility in indianapolis. our most heartfelt sympathies are with all those affected by this senseless act of violence. the safety of our team members is our top priority and we're fully cooperating with investigating authorities. the fbi has now joined this investigation to help with their efforts. they are working on a motive for this shooting. we are expecting to hear an update in terms of where this investigation stands. that's going to be at 10:30. john, poppy? >> jason carroll for us on the scene in indianapolis. we appreciate the hard work you're doing. thank you for your reporting. we're told president biden will be briefed on the mass shooting in indianapolis later this morning. cnn's jeremy diamond is live at the white house. jeremy, not quite i understand
what that means. does this mean he wasn't told overnight or wasn't woken up overnight on this? >> i think it's fair to assume the president is aware of this situation, but hasn't yet received the full briefing on everything that took place in indianapolis yesterday. the white house official telling us this morning the president will be briefed on the fedex shooting, but the white house chief of staff ron klain, who is an indiana native, he has already been in touch with the mayor of indianapolis to discuss the situation on the ground and the homeland security adviser to the president has also been in touch with authorities on the ground. look, it is remarkable to see the pace of the shootings in america that are happening now as this country is beginning to return to that prepandemic normal. and this is unfortunately a big part of that prepandemic normal. it was just a week ago yesterday that biden signed a half dozen executive actions to try and address gun violence in the wake of those shootings in boulder, colorado, and atlanta, georgia. another shooting in america. we will see how president biden
chooses to respond to this. he's already called on congress to take action to ban assault weapons, ban high capacity magazines and to close those background check loopholes. no actions so far from capitol hill as we know. the political dynamics there very much still firm with republicans refusing to get on board with many of those measures. we will see whether president biden chooses to address this with another slate of executive actions. that certainly is something the white house has been considering as they do anticipate more mass shootings would take place in america. >> jeremy diamond, i do appreciate your reporting on that. thanks for keeping us posted. president biden to be fully briefed later this morning on the shooting in indianapolis. want to bring in jul juliettekayem. do we have new audio? okay. listen, we just got some new sound in of a witness who was on the scene during the mass shooting, so i want to play that
and get your reaction. >> okay. >> i was outside of the building when this happened. and across from the building is the parking lot. and so i hear three shots after that and i assumed someone has an engine problem. this is when i hear six shots fired rapidly and then ten shots. this was when i stand up and i'm sitting on a bench. and so i stand up. i see a man. a hooded figure. i was unable to see his face in detail. however, the man did have an ar in his hand, and he started shouting and then started firing at random directions. but at first, it was at his right. and i thought he saw me and so i immediately ducked for cover. >> all right. a witness on the scene there
spraini explaining that the shooter got there in the car, began shooting in the parking lot before going inside. we're told he had a rifle. and we're told it didn't last very long, shooting outside in the parking lot, then inside some, but it ended fairly quickly after he got inside and he didn't get very far. >> so the information is clear that this was a one to two-minute episode with mass casualties and many injured. so we know the pace of the killings and the person speaking just before said it was two, then six, then ten. that is a very fast weapon that killed people very quickly with barely any time for anyone to respond in any meaningful way. so they were just sort of sitting there. so that's the first thing. what weapon is used and what was the access issue. you'll have the second issue around motivation. but did he know people?
did he work there? was he a former employee? but i want to talk about the victims for a second. we don't know who they are. these are people -- america functioned over covid because of people who work at places like the boulder supermarket, the fedex here in indiana. these are critical frontline workers whose exposure to covid also made them exposed to a different kind of pandemic, which is, of course, our gun violence here. their family members and the focus on family unification is so necessary now when we're hearing that that's happening right now. some people don't know whether their family members are victims so we need to respect a process that could take -- it's 8:00 a.m. now, could take a couple of hours until we hear who the victims are. these are people that made america function over the last year and are now dead. >> juliette, five mass shootings
in the last month. look at this map, and these are going to show you mass shootings across the country recently. >> right. >> what is it like for you, an expert on this, to get woken up -- i assume you get called in the middle of the night by our teams when this happened? >> i do. >> how can this be described as anything but an epidemic and a health crisis? a health crisis in america. >> it's an epidemic. so the mass shootings did not end -- did not go away during the pandemic. our focus, obviously, was on other issues. they tended not have the high profileness, the public nature of the ones we're seeing in atlanta, in boulder and now in indiana. those are newsworthy events for a variety of reasons but because the -- because they are public places. so let's -- so gun violence continued through the pandemic. and -- but we are coming out, there's a lot of mental health issues.
we've always had guns and weaponry that is accessible. i've been on with you many times. i get tired of the motivation question only because, you know, sometimes we don't know why someone does something. the numbers i'm looking at as a homeland security person, i think about risk reduction. we're not going to eliminate gun violence in this country tomorrow but what we can bebegin to look at is why are there weapons accessible to so many people that kill so many people quickly? that's the issue. i mean, this is uniquely american in this sense that you can walk into a facility, have 90 seconds and eight, nine, ten, we don't know how many are dead. that, to me, is why gun violence is our sort of primary homeland security issue right now. the motivations matter. but we know that the weaponry -- that the means do, too. it's not just motivation.
the means do, too. so that's why i get -- i have gotten a lot of 4:00 a.m. phone calls over the last month. >> we'd love to be calling you for something else. thanks for being with us. >> thank you, juliette. new video of a deadly police shooting of a 13-year-old in chicago. the attorney for his family is with us, next. - [narrator] at southern new hampshire university, we're committed to making college more accessible by making it more affordable, that's why we're keeping our tuition the same through the year 2021. - i knew snhu was the place for me when i saw how affordable it was. i ran to my husband with my computer and i said, "look, we can do this." - [narrator] take advantage of some of the lowest online tuition rates in the nation.
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body camera footage of an officer fatally shooting 13-year-old adam toledo. police say it shows that less than a second passed from the time that to laido, they say, was seen holding a handgun to when he was shot and killed by the officer. ryan young joins us live in chicago with more on this. what do we know this morning? >> yeah, poppy, such a tough story when you think about the circumstances here with a 13-year-old who was killed by an officer in this police-involved shooting. we should warn everyone the video is disturbing to watch. but what you see here and what's been released is an officer chasing behind the young man. that's apparently after a shot spotter recorded about eight gunshots in the area. that's what the officer was responding to. there's a foot chase and you hear the commands from the officer to stop running. at some point, the officer made a split-second decision to open fire. and you see him opening fire on the 13-year-old. hitting him once in the chest.
he did try to render aid. there's been so many questions about where the gun was at the time of the shooting. and that's been the big question so far throughout the community. we know there's a lack of trust in the community between community members and the police department. the police department for its part has released a video trying to show where the gun was at the officer was giving commands, but, obviously, it's been a tough situation. especially in this city. they were bracing themselves for large demonstrations last night. that did not happen, but i can tell you, there are plans for tonight for larger demonstrations because people are upset. they are hoping to call into question how the police department handles things but at this point, you have a 13-year-old who has been shot and killed. poppy? >> thank you, ryan young in chicago for us. and joining me now is the toledo family attorney. thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> we are talking about a 13-year-old, and the last time
that adam's mother elizabeth saw him was when she put him to bed that night. i don't think any mother can imagine what her pain is like. what does the family want the world to know about their son right now? >> well, she last saw her son sunday evening at 11:00 p.m. when she put him to bed in the room that he shared with his little 11-year-old brother. the next time she saw her son, he was dead. adam was a loved little boy. he was involved in sports. involved in his elementary school. he was known as a timid kid. he attended pumpkin patches and amusement parks. and over 200 individuals came to his funeral. when other community members said that this individual had nobody. who was a very much loved child. >> police say that adam toledo
was holding a handgun at the end of the foot chase with the police officer. and police say that gun was later recovered behind the fence feet from where he was killed. officer stillman is heard in the video yelling stop four times, and i want our viewers to watch this and listen and then i want your response on the other side. here it is. >> stop! stop! hey! [ bleep ]. shots fired. shots fired. get an ambulance over here now. look at me. look at me. you all right? >> my question to you is, did adam toledo have a gun in his hand at any point during that pursuit? >> you saw that video. the whole world has seen that video now. do you see a gun in his hands? i don't see a gun in his hands. but let's assume, for the
moment, the worst. that he had a gun in his hands. the officer gave him a directive. the officer told him show me your hands. the child complied. he surrendered. he lifted his hands. they were empty and the child was shot. >> four times is what we hear on the video. i watched it over and over again. the officer yelling stop before adam stopped. my question to you is, what the family believes, though, the officer should have done. remember, police do say that there was gun residue on his hand. they found the gun feet away. and they say that he had a gun in his hand as he was running and as the officer was chasing him and telling him to stop. what does the family believe the officer should have done then? >> the officer should have given him an opportunity to comply. the officer gave him a directive and the child complied. it's not to give the child a directive and not give him an opportunity to comply.
what is the point of that? >> let me get your response to this because this -- after yelling stop four times previously and asking him to comply, this is what the chicago police union president told cnn last night. >> we do not have to wait to be shot to respond. the officer had every reason to believe that that offender was turning and pointing the gun at him. >> the officer, he says, had every reason to believe that the gun that they say was in adam's hand was about to be turned on the officer. i want to give you a chance to respond to what he just said. >> i believe that individual also said that he had many years of experience. he has been in that same position with an offender who was armed or unarmed. and that he never shot at the alleged offender. so by virtue of his own statement yesterday, if he was in that same position, he wouldn't have shot at that child. >> can i ask what are the main
questions the family has this morning that are still unanswered? >> well, there's an ongoing investigation by three entities. us as counsel for the toledo family, chicago police department and the civilian office of police accountability. they want to know everything that transpired that night. we have bits and pieces of video footage. a lot of it is not clear. a lot of it is at a far distarngs way. but they want to know the whole picture of what happened that night and also a little bit about the officer and his background. >> adina weiss ortiz, the attorney for the family of adam toledo. thank you for joining us. eight people killed overnight at a shooting in a fexex facility in indianapolis. we have the latest on that ahead. sensodyne sensitivity and gum gives us a dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues.
indianapolis airport. four victims transported to the hospital. the gunman took his own life. this happens 14 years after the virginia tech mass shooting that left 32 people dead. joining us now is virginia democratic senator mark warner. this is the 14th anniversary of that awful day. honestly, the entire calendar is now filled with anniversaries of awful days when it comes to mass shootings in this country. >> you're right, john. >> your reaction this morning. >> well, unfortunately it appears that we have become immune to these tragedies. the whole notion of elected officials offering thoughts and prayers and doing nothing is actually fairly sickening. yesterday my fellow virginian, tim kaine and i introduced what we call the virginia plan. it was six bills. they may not have been everything gun rights groups wanted or gun control groups wanted, but we thought virginia was a fairly good microcosm of
the united states. we've passed legislation at our state level to do universal background checks to make sure that people who have got mental health issues may not have access to firearms to make sure we close the boyfriend loophole. to make sure you can only purchase one handgun a month. so we thought, it took us a long time in virginia to get this kind of legislation. we put that forward for national consideration. i know other members of the senate are still trying to at least revitalize universal background checks. but until and unless we act, these tragedies are going to continue. let me be clear. it's not that gun control legislation is going to stop every one of these tragedies, but if we can just stop one or two and prevent a whole series of families from the kind of havoc and pain that they're going through, it would be a step in the right direction. >> senator, you're the chair of the intelligence committee in the senate.
yesterday president biden announced a series of new sanctions against russia for maligned activities which include election interference, which includes the solarwinds huge hack. did these sanctions go far enough in your mind? there are those saying, look, could have sanctioned the pipeliner or entities surrounding that pipeline. that would have set russia back. did these do anything or what do these do to stop them from maligned activities in the future? >> well, what biden's actions were, they were clearly much more than trump. he was willing to call out putin, something donald trump never did. donald trump managed to criticize virtually everybody involved in political activity in the united states and abroad with the exception of vladimir putin. but i've got to think -- i think we need to realize that sanctions alone, we could have gotten even tighter, but sanctions alone are not going to stop this type of activity. we have to look at ourselves as
well. for example, on misinformation and disinformation. we still have not put any guard rails in place on companies like facebook, twitter and youtube where a lot of this misinformation and disinformation is being, fr frankly, put forward by russia or amplified by russia because some of the crazy theories are coming out of america. on the question of the solarwinds hack, perpetrated by the russian services. 18,000 companies were penetrated and thank goodness it was only an espionage attack and not an attack that could have actually shut down our whole economy. we still have no clear cyberpolicy. no red lines to our adversaries, russia, china and others, about where we won't go. and frankly, the fact that someone voluntarily came forward with this information about solarwinds, we might not still have known if fireeye had not come forward. we need some level with critical government infrastructure to have mandatory reporting.
so i applaud biden for taking steps forward but we also have to take these domestic actions as well. >> we heard from the treasury department the first administration verification that in the 2016 election that the polling data that was given by paul manafort and rick gates, the two guys in charge of the trump campaign at that time, they gave polling information to konstantin kilimnik. he gave that information to the russians. he gave that information to the russians. it's in writing now as part of the sanctions. you, obviously, were deeply involved with various senate investigations into this. what's the significance of that, that direct connection from the trump campaign to kilimnik to the russians? the significance of that? >> well, it shows what our bipartisan senate intelligence committee investigation showed. that the russians were intimately involved with the trump 2016 campaign, whether
trump knowingly or not but clearly was inviting in outside influence. and i think one of the things that -- i'm not sure all the viewing audience realizes, they said we suspected that. we knew that. we had found that. we've not found this level of direct connection that the biden administration, intel community has made. but konstantin kilimnik did not disappear in 2016. konstantin kilimnik was using other ukrainian-affiliated individuals who had ties as well to kilimnik and russian intelligence. members like rudy giuliani and members of congress in the 2016 election. the same cast of characters simply got fast forwarded into the 2020 election cycle. i think they were less destructive because quite frankly our intelligence community did a better job in 2020. but we ought to have, again, not
only better intel, but we ought to pass a common sense piece of legislation i put forward that says if a foreign government in a presidential campaign offers you assistance or their agents offer you assistance, the appropriate response ought to be, not thank you. it ought to be, call the fbi p. i've got to let you go, but is this collusion when you have it from trump campaign officials to russian officials. is that collusion? >> we put out five volumes, much more comprehensive than the mueller report. i would encourage any american who wants to get to the bottom of what happened in 2016 to read those bipartisan reports. >> senator mark warner, we appreciate your time. >> thank you. breaking news this morning. eight people killed by a gunman at a fedex warehouse in indianapolis. it just tells you the state of being right now in this country. a fedex warehouse in indianapolis. police believe the shooter then took his own life. we have new information, next.
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morning. at least eight people are dead after a gunman opened fire at a fedex facility in indianapolis overnight. jason carroll has been on the scene reporting all morning long. jason, what can you tell us? >> well, it's been a longer morning for the family members of some of these fedex employees. as you can imagine how difficult it's been for some of them. some of them have been waiting hours to hear from some of their family members to make sure they're okay. a lot of different moving parts with this investigation. the fbi has joined the investigation, john, to lend their efforts. a source within the indianapolis metropolitan police department described a horrific scene inside the facility behind me. this all happening at about 11:00 last night. that's when the initial calls came in that there was a shooter inside. apparently the shooter made his way into the parking lot. started shooting there. got inside but not too far inside but still kept on shooting once he was inside. apparently once police got here, and it wasn't too long after the
initial calls came in that police arrived at the scene. they say shortly after the suspect took his own life. eight people dead. five people injured. one critically injured. those numbers are sure to change because some of the people who were injured actually took themselves to local hospitals so local authorities trying to get a handle on the number of folks who were injured out here. a family reunification site has been set up at a hotel located not far from where we are. a number of the employees are not allowed to have cell phones on the floor of the facility so when they ran out when the gunfire rang out, a lot of them didn't have phones on them. they weren't able to get in touch with family members. they are being held at a different fedex facility. they'll be reunited within the next hour. so they are working on that. at this point, investigators are working on a motive for why yet another mass shooting has happened, this time in indianapolis. poppy?
>> jason, thank you very much. now to america's economic recovery. it's a really good sign this morning. unemployment claims just reached the lowest level of the whole pandemic. retail sales surged. i'm glad to bring in brian moynihan, the ceo of bank of america. it's good news that we're not on the precipice of another depression like last time i talked to you. so you took over bank of america in the middle of the great recession. when is the last time you were this bullish on the u.s. economy? >> well, first, poppy, our thoughts and prayers are with the families of the indianapolis shooting victims. and we have team out there, too. so let's start with that before we get the economy. but on the economy, we -- it is really -- the predictions for the 2021 growth by our great research team are 7% gdp growth in the united states for this year. and 5 plus percent for next year which is a much faster growth
rate than we've seen in the last couple of decades. that bodes well. the economy is going to cross over and be as big as it was before the pandemic. probably in the middle of this year, growing at a faster rate. unemployment is coming down and we're starting to open up the economies fully and people can now spend the checks they got by going out and eating and doing the things they'd like to do. >> the president likes to raise corporate taxes to 28% to pay for infrastructure. is it your assessment that if that were to become law that would substantially hamper that growth? >> i think it depends on what the shape of that law is and how the taxes work. but the key thing is, we -- to keep america competitive, we need to keep investing in infrastructure, not only physical but other types of infrastructure. we need to make the transition economy and a well-focused infrastructure plan would be a good thing. we need to be careful how much spending we can do to keep our debt ratings and preeminence as
the number one country in the world for people to invest in. >> a well-structured infrastructure plan would be a good thing discipline that mean bank of america supports a 28% corporate tax rate to pay for it? >> well, we'll have to see what the tax law provides. we paid the higher taxes before and -- >> that's what they want. what do you think about 28%? >> well, let's see what they come up with and we'll work it through. but i think the key is to focus the money on providing long-term growth for our country. >> i do want to point out, there are good economic headlines but you know this recovery is not equal. women, so many millions more women out of work now. and also, the bottom -- jerome powell pointed out that the bottom 20% of income earners still have about a 20% unemployment rate. i wonder what your biggest worry is about the economy right now. >> the number one worry about the economy is to get the health care crisis behind us and get the vaccines fully distributed,
get them in people's arms and get the case counts down and hospitalizations erraticated and that means you can fully reopen the economy. we have serious issues. there's a group of -- a big section of the economy is on the other side of the river. they crossed the ridge. there are certain industries and people working in those industries who want to come to work. it's not that they're working from home. we have to get those open. that was the purpose of the ppp program which we did about a half million loans for. the unemployment support. but the good news is that number has gone from 15 down to 6. and what you saw in yesterday's job number is that the american economy is turning and bringing those people back in. we need to focus on getting that last group of people through and getting those industries open. >> speaking about that, bank of america, for example, just increased, it's now $1.25 billion in terms of money that you're putting towards real equity and racial equity over the next five years. i heard your peer jamie dimon who heads jpmorgan say to my
colleague david axelrod this week, the american dream is fraying and income inequality is the fault line. do you believe too few americans, brian, right now, have access to the american dream? >> well, that's -- we, obviously, do because that's what we're trying to work on. starting about four, five years ago, we started work on the question of opportunity and whether opportunity was available to all on an equal basis. so we're working on that and then last year the killing of george floyd and the other awaaw awareness of racial and social justice. housing, jobs, business entrepreneurships and health. and we've been deploying that billion dollars. we invested in minority institutions. 5% of the equity, given them common equity growth. increased allocation to community developed institutions. we invested 61 private equity funds to give entrepreneurial wealth a possibility by creating
more investment dollars in the local communities. and then on top of that, we worked on skills. community colleges, grants to develop better skilled-based programs and hbcus to help with their 11 hbcus to help with college development career to get more companies to work with them. and morehouse and spelman and black executive alliance, a grant to help create more entrepreneurship among black americans. we increased that to $1.25 billion and made it clear it covers all ethnicities, including asian-americans. >> so brian, given your concern about inequity in this country, one of the reasons i really wanted to have you on is because you've not hesitated to speak out on social issues that concern you. speaking out against the north carolina transgender bathroom law. you guys are headquartered there. stopping funding manufacturers of military-style guns for civilian use after the parkland
shooting. now you've signed this pledge with other businesses and business leaders fundamentally saying we need to protect voting rights in america. does that mean that bank of america explicitly opposes the law on voting in the past in georgia, what's about to pass in arkansas and be signed into law there and in texas? >> so poppy, we are clear a few weeks ago about where we stood about the right to vote and the right to vote ought to be distributed in its widest sense. anything that goes against that shouldn't be tolerated. i think it's time to get to the bottom of this. as i've been thinking about it after the 2000, 2004 elections and controversy around them, there was a commission of president jimmy carter and james baker that came together and proposed reforms. i think it's time for a group of people to have a bipartisan commission like we did in policing in 2015 in the obama administration and in the election to decide what is the right standards that we as american society can agree to.
states rights. it's their decision but if we had a standard we could hold people to, it would be good p. i ask you this because the latest studies show the american people trust you guys more than congress, than lawmakers to actually get things done, right? to actually help enact change outside of your core business. there's a piece in "the wall street journal" that pointed out something so interesting. when civil rights legend andrew young needed help back in the '60s on voting rights, here is what he said. he said, believe it or not, i have more faith in business than i have in church or politics or anything else i do. and the reason is there is more freedom and more courage in our free enterprise system. so fast forward to today, what will you do about it? what will bank of america do to put action behind these words saying we have to protect the right for everyone to vote equally in this country?
>> well, again, we have spoken out. i think we're clear with our team. our decision to do things and make decisions really comes from two things. one, how we want the company to produce profits for shareholders and deliver what society needs. and secondly our teammates and their families and everybody have concerns. and as a major employer with 200,000-plus employees around the world, you know, we have to work to make their lives better. be the best place to work. those teammates want us to take a stand. that's why we do it. so it's how we operate the company. but importantly for things like diversity inclusion and opportunity, you know, it's who we hire, how we hire. how we promote and provide opportunity in our country and then things i talked about before. in terms of voting, we've made it clear where we stand. we have to move as businesses do to pragmatic solution to figure out an answer as opposed to a constantly churning thing. what is the standards the american society ought to live
under? that's why you're trying to do it. that's what andrew young talked about. businesses tend to try to execute and do things, that's what makes us different. so we're trying to resolve things and get things done and that's what we try to do in every case. >> let's sit down in a few months and have an in-depth conversation on this because there's a lot more to talk about. i appreciate your time this morning. brian, thank you. we'll be right back. allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! all good every veteran family deserves to fulfill their dream of owning a home
the ceo of pfizer now says people will probably need a coronavirus booster shot 6 to 12 months after their first round of vaccine doses. joining us now, dr. sanjay gupta, cnn chief medical correspondent. so what does this miean exactly and why is he saying this? >> i don't know that we know this yet. it's not that he isn't knowledgeable, obviously, about vaccines, but we just don't know how long the immunity lasts yet. it's not knowable yet. we'll determine that with the passage of time. pharma executives saying, hey, look, billions of people will need these shots every year possibly for the rest of their lives. not surprising necessarily to hear that. but how long does the immunity really last is the question? let me show you the types of boosters that we're talking about here. is it a shot that's the same existing shot? you just basically increase the
immunity? is it something that's going to be specific to one of these variants that we've been talking about? or perhaps a combined booster. one piece of data we'll share with you. going back to sars 2003, people who became naturally infected with sars, what they found was antibody levels did go down over time, but their overall immunity due to t-cells lasting up until last year still. 17 years later. so we'll see how long the immunity actually lasts from these vaccines. >> sanjay, for anyone in line to get a j&j vaccine this morning or maybe just recently got one, any updates? anything new we need to know this morning? >> i wish we did. but the committee had met and did not come away with some sort of specific recommendation. we know they'll meet again next friday. two things they're trying to determine. are there more people out there who may have had this problem? was this a needle of a haystack or tip of an iceberg. this is going to be rare, no
matter what, but how rare are we talking about? and is there anything that ties these people together that developed the blood clots in the brain. pre-existing history, medication, birth control pills even. that's what they are trying to figure out. but they have to move fast. these are tough decisions and tough investigations but the vaccine rollout so critically important. confidence in the vaccine critically important. we know they'll meet next friday. hopefully we'll hear more. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you for being with us. >> you got it. thank you. we want to end this show on something very personal and take this moment to remember a very special member of the cnn family. our colleague, our beloved colleague rene marsh's 2-year-old son blake passed away wednesday after battling cancer. in a touching message to her son -- we're going to read you the whole thing because it really matters. rene writes this. to my dear, sweet blake, aka
blakey, in your 25 months on earth, you taught me how much strength i had stored up in reserve that i did not know i had. >> you taught me endurance. you taught me a depth of love i have never experienced. you inspired me to keep going when i wanted to give up. you helped me prioritize what is truly important in this life. i'm forever changed because of you, my son. >> i feel blessed and honored to have been your mom. i wish we had more time together, but i'm grateful for the time we had. in just two years, you mastered the ability to bring laughter and happiness into whatever room you were in. >> your party tricks included telling me no, no matter what question i asked, hugging and kissing on demand and your dance moves were top notch. the good times we shared are forever in my heart. >> you loved being outside. you loved cruising the neighborhood in your drop-top electric car with the music on
as you tried so hard to snap your fingers. you loved humming classical music. your favorite was mozart's serenade number 13. i didn't just lose you, blakey. i lost all the dreams and hopes that a mom has for a son. i lost my motherhood, and i am mourning it all and i'm dedicated to fighting pediatric cancer for the rest of my life. >> i will do it not just to spare other parents from this unbearable pain, but i will do it to forever honor you, blake. your life was not in vain, my sweet angel. mommy loves you, and i look forward to holding you when we meet again. our thoughts, our love, are with rene and her family. please hug your children tonight. please help in the battle against pediatric cancer. >> cnn's coverage continues
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it is friday nomorning. i'd like to say good friday morning but we're following familiar breaking news this morning. in a week where the u.s. has been grapple with gun violence of many types across the country, stand by. take a breath and take notice. it's happened again in america. as you wake up this morning, we're learning more about another mass shooting. this is the scene. it shows all of the cities where there's been a mass shooting. in just the last 30 days. by cnn's count there have been at least 45 mass shootings since those spa shootings in atlanta on march 16th. it has been just eight days since the last