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as certain places, i couldn't eat there. those are the obstacles i tried to overcome, and i did. >> it was so inspiring to be in the room with him. he said in a message to us you have to look at where you came from to look at how far you've come. he'll be there with his daughter and he'll cherish the moment. >> good for the masters. there's a lot in the legacy that needs overturning. coy, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. "new day" continues right now. this is not good news for joe biden, and it puts manchin right where he wants to be, which is at the center of everything. >> i happen to agree with him on the filibuster. >> president biden taking executive action to try to address a small part of the gun issue. >> this should not be a partisan issue. >> trends are increasing in case
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numbers and hospitalizations. >> day care as well as school sports. i think that's what is explaining these surges in cases in young individuals. >> we are so close to the finish line. wouldn't you hate to be the guy who fumbles the ball? >> announcer: this is "new day." welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." i'm john berman with erica hill this morning. nice to see you. >> nice to see you. did you put the exclamation point after "this morning?" >> i did. erica hill. >> i'll take what i can get. >> all right. did president biden's plan hit a road block, frisch the metaphor. will joe manchin stand in the way of getting plan passed? is he more a political pothole or full street closure, met for continued. manchin indicated overnight he's opposed to passing key legislation on strict party line votes. he's alarmed, he says, by that
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process. how alarmed since we haven't heard a single republican say they support the white house plan yet. this puts infrastructure in serious peril. meantime overnight the united states recording over 70,000 new coronavirus cases and hospitalizations at their highest level in a month, the cdc confirming the highly contagious b.1.1.7. variant first identified in the uk is now the most common strain in the u.s. the cdc director says overnight she expects all kids will be back in classrooms by september. let's begin with jeremy diamond live at the white house. jeremy goorkd morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. there's no question that this op-ed will make president biden's job a lot more difficult going forward as the senator from west virginia, the democrat is saying he not only is farmly opposed to eliminating or
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reforming the filibuster but also saying that he doesn't want a budget reconciliation, that process where you can pass legislation along party lines to be the norm going forward. he writes this, quote, there's no circumstance in which i will vote to eliminate or weaken the filibuster. i simply do not believe budget reconciliation should replace regular order in the senate. president biden has been trying to advance his $2.2 trillion infrastructure proposal through bipartisan negotiations, but so far there's been very little if any areas of agreement in terms of the broad scope of this plan with republicans in congress. and so even as democrats have already been laying the ground work to advance that proposal through budget reconciliation, allowing 50 democratic senators and vice president kamala harris passing that legislation, senator manchin questioning whether he would go along with that. there's not a huge sense of alarm here yet. what is clear, though, is the president is going to be
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negotiating on this plan for a long time to come, and senator manchin will certainly be a part of that. later this morning president biden will also announce new actions on gun control measures. he's taking some executive actions to try to tighten restrictions on so-called ghost guns that don't have any serial numbers as well as tightening things such as the pistol stabilizer that was used in the shooting in colorado. john? >> jeremy diamond, thank you. joining us is a national politician for the "washington post" and mark palau toe is a senior reporter at the "washington post." when joe manchin says i simply do not believe budget reconciliation should replace regular order in the senate, it's a big deal. he's putting it in writing this morning as the infrastructure bill is all the talk in washington. how far is joe manchin willing
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to go here? is he willing, do you think, to stand in the way, to be the one who says no to the white house infrastructure plan? >> well, he's acting as if he is. it really raises the question whether the white house went through the proper process of the care and feeding of joe manchin. he says he's not doing this because he has a big ego. he says he's doing this because as you just reported he wanted to return to regular order. at the same time, these are people you're talking about, politicians. in the end, what does joe manchin concretely want? right now it doesn't look like he wants a $2 trillion infrastructure bill or live commentating for folks who have covered washington or politics for a long time, it seems liked a oddity. >> it does seem like an oddity.
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toluse, what are the ruchl blbl-- rumblingings in terms of it? this is not a secret in terms of how he feels. >> this senator has been asked more than any other senator what he feels about the filibuster, whether he would be willing to make changes toward the filibuster. he's considered a swing democrat. he is tired from this because he has given his answers over time. his answers have shifted slightly. a few weeks bag he said he would be open to make changes to the filibuster, he would maybe make senators have to speak. but now it seems like he's making a definitive statement to the filibuster. instead he wants to get democrats and republicans that work in the same room and
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bipartisan groups try to come up with legislation to get support from the senate in both parties. they haven't done quite as much as they would like for him to do, but this is a new push to say let's halt the brakes on reconciliation, let let's move forward with bipartisanship and move forward without making the senate move. >> i'm not telling any secrets, but i don't think there are ten republican votes, not now, not ever it doesn't look like. my question now is this really joe manchin's world and joe biden is living in it? >> well, at the moment, yes, but also understand, you know t biden white house does have the opportunity to break down bills in smaller chunks and remove the excuse that republicans have of saying, oh, it's too much spending too quickly, this stuff is not useful. and then that probably puts the pressure a little bit more on joe manchin, who would then be presented with the reality of course look, the white house has
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tried to work with these folks, they've refused to, we need to fix bridges and roads and take care of other things, and how do you vote. but at that stage of the process, it could be coming. >> toluse, do we know what would trigger that? to go to the very thought out skpaems, i think this is really a fines doubled work zone ahead moment. >> yeah. i think the senator from west virginia is going to eventually have to decide whether he wants the senate to do big things in his state and across the country when it comes to fixing the infrastructure or whether he'll allow gridlock he's seen in the senate just continue. as you said, there does not seem to be ten republican votes for anything joe biden wants to do that republicans have realized that by blocking a democratic president, they can find their way back into power. they did this back in 2009 and
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2 2010, and they were able to seize power in the midterms, and i think that's the plan that a lot of the republicans are operating under. so senator manchin is going to have to essentially decide whether or not he's going to vote for some kind of bill to fix things in west virginia and elsewhere or whether or not he's going to put all of his political capital in trying to get the two parties to work together. >> all right, florida man mark caputo. let's talk florida man matt gaetz and joe greenberg. what's going on? >> toluse was also a florida man. we used to work together at the "miami herald," by the way. that's a great question. it's one of the ultimate stories. tax collector joel greenberg is under indictment. one of the accounts is he had sex with a minor, sex trafficking. matt gaetz, his friend since
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2016, is now wrapped up in this in kind of a really bizarre tale. cbs is reporting federal prosecutors is as examining an overseas trip that matt gaetz made with friends and others in the bahamas. they claim there were escorts and there's a question whether there was any sex with minors that occurred there. matt gaetz has been kind of notably knocked on his heels by just a crush of allegations for the past week. i do also think it's notable, though, we haven't had any names that have come out so far, no other accusers have come forward, nor have we seen any, you know, old irrefutable evidence or data. we're all sitting around waiting for that to point that out. >> another thing you haven't heard is a lot of support for matt gaetz, quite honestly, other than the tepid statement
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from donald trump. there aren't a lot of democrats jump. ing up and down saying he's our friend. >> right. he's saying now that the republicans are a minority, he's a minority of the minority. he's keenly aware of how alone and isolated he is. that having been said, i don't think that president biden will act on that. you did see him go out of his way to issue a statement yesterday denying "the new york times" report. there were sources in the white house who told "the new york times" that was the case. one thing that doesn't make sense about those anonymous claims is the white house staff also didn't like matt gaetz. matt gaetz frequently went over the heads of the white house staff and, in fact, in one case of lobbying, the president was
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asked to pardon roger stone. and why matt gaetz would not go to president trump for this alleged white house pardon but go to the staff who hates him go for it, that doesn't make sense at all. you look at the white house where everyone is backstabbing the over and waiting to sandbag the over. >> thank you both for being with us this morning. appreciate it. >> thank you. so the cdc warning that the highly transmissible b.1.1.7. variant of coronavirus found first in the united kingdom, it's the most dominant strain in the u.s. now. what does that mean for hoping to contain this next. money. an annuity can help cover essential expenses in retirement. have the right financial professional show you how... this is what an annuity can do.
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hospitals are seeing more and more younger adults, those in their 30s and 40s admitted with severe disease. based on our most recent estimates from cdc surveillance, the b.1.1.7. variant is now the most common lineage circulating in the united states. >> the director of the cdc confirming the more transmissible variant first identified in the uk is now the dominant one here in the u.s. overnight the u.s. is reporting more than 70,000 new cases of coronavirus, and hospitalizations are now at the highest point we've seen in a month. joining us now, michael osterholm. he's the director of the center for research and policy in minnesota. look, you've been warning us for weeks at this point this is what we're moving into. you've said repeatedly look at what's happening in the northeast and midwest. we're going to start to see it spread. is that where we're at this morning?
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>> unfortunately that is the case, erica. we're going to continue to see these cases fan out. i think that the vaccine rollout has been a really important tool to try to reduce these cases. but as you've seen from michigan and minnesota, even though they have very high levels of vaccination relative to the rest of the country, you're still seeing how severe if problem is. we're probably not going to get enough people vaccinated quickly enough to keep the country experiencing what we're seeing in the upper midwest and northeast. >> you've been consistent about warning us this is going to happen. why do you think your view is so different than the view of other people in the field, people like scott gottlieb and others who say, you know, there's enough vaccinations now and people who have it, maybe there's enough herd immunity out there, but heal said yesterday this is going to keep it relatively contained, keep the bump from
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becoming a true giant surge. >> first of all, we can't say how large the surge is going to get in the united states, but i can tell you it's going to get larger than it has now. look at the evidence in michigan, minnesota, and places like it and you can see where that is already happening. i don't know how the gentlemen get their information or come upon those depopositions. you'll have to ask them. i can tell you this is going to happen next. i think the important menl here is we want all of the american public to understand we're not done with this virus yet and that all the opening that we're doing, all the social events, how we're getting together again as if this pandemic didn't exist is going to extract a real price. no one wants to be the person who dies three days before they're scheduled to get their covid vaccine, and that's what i fear is going to happen. it's going to happen over the next few months. >> is it possible, though, that deaths, even though if we see a rise in cases and maybe've a rise in hospitalizations that we
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don't see the corresponding rise in deaths that we've seen in the past because such a high percentage of the older population has been vaccinated? >> you know, john, i think that's a real possibility. the problem is we've got a virus here that's very different than the past. remember, this virus is now 50% to 100% more infectious and 50% to 60% more severe. as you heard from the lead-in by dr. walensky, you're seeing more severe cases in people in their 30s, 40s, 50 years of age. they're people who have not been vaccinated. because of that offset against what we've done to reduce the cases in the older population, it's really unclear what the final picture will look like. if you look at hospitalizations and icu care in places like minnesota and michigan, we're seeing big increases in icu care. that's truly a design of severe disease,'ve anybody the population we haven't seen before. >> and it's the younger population that is so
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concerning. you heard dr. walensky saying she's attributing to the fact that vaccinations are working. when you look at younger people and the rollout, moving up the deadline, all the states are going to be able to increase eligibility to those 16 and up. the white house is announcing new target areas also to try to get the vaccineinto more areas of the country. do you think those efforts are moving quickly enough to make sure that the distribution is becoming more equitable and accessible? >> yeah. and, first of all, let me comment on the number of hospitalizations and deaths right now. remember, these are lagging indicators. what we're seeing here is a relatively quick turnaround of cases dropping from the high in january until several weeks ago and all of a sudden we're starting to see activity in the upper midwest. once this rolls out throughout the rest of the country and people have a long enough time to be sick, we will see a change in the number of deaths. lit start to go back up.
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in terms of what the administration is doing, i've given them great credit it from the beginning to get the vaccine, working closely with the pharmaceutical industry to get this manufactured. i still think we can do much more to getting a single dose out to as many people as possible with the second dose to be followed up eight to ten weeks later, which we know surely provides a great deal of protection. the other thing is i think the media would do a better job, frankly, of how many people are getting vaccinated. when i hear three or four people getting vaccinated, remember, almost half overthose are getting a second dose. that's not new people. they're the ones getting previous dose. the numbers are not going up as quickly as some people think they are in terms of who's getting vaccinated and how many. we still have a lot of people out there not protected by vaccine, have not previously been infected, and are the wood that this coronavirus is going to burn in the next weeks and months ahead.
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youth break clusters in youth sports. it's happening in michigan and minnesota. it's, again, something you've been talking to us about. why are we seeing that now? i don't think we've seen it like this in the past year at all. why is it happening? what are the implications going forward? and what do we do to stop it? >> well, john, you know, we have talked about it in the past. as you know and as some people who watch the show know, i'm very supportive of getting kids back into school, particularly k through 8 because prior to this b.1.1.7. variant, we saw transmission by kids through kids and it turned out it wasn't a major part of the transmission concern in our communities unlike with influenza, where if you get influenza early in the school year, you can guarantee it will spread through the community in no time. that's changed with b.1.1.7. right now we're seeing a high
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transmission among kids, highly infectious. just as you pointed out, youth sports have been a major challenge for us in minnesota, schools and other social environments. it's a whole new part of the transmission. i believe the younger adults, 30-year-olds and 40-year-olds who are sick had contact with their kids. i know a person just like that, where the kid got it and spread it to everyone else in the family. this is another part of why the b.1.1.7. experience is different than what we saw before, and we have to take that into account as we plan how to control this virus. >> professor osterholm, always an education to have you on. thanks so very much for joining us. >> thank you. we want to remember some of the more than 559,000 lives lost in this country to coronavirus. anthony was a tattoo artist in vermont. friends say he was a comic book
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later this morning jurors will hear more testimony about the day george floyd was kill and the deadly encounter with police. in this skpakey exchange, an
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investigator struggled to make sense of what george floyd said as mr. chauvin kneeled on him. >> at this point, i would ask you to listen to mr. floyd's voice. did you hear that? >> yes, i did. >> does it appear that mr. floyd said, "i ate too many drugs?" ? >> yes, it did. >> having heard it in context, are you able to tell what mr. floyd is saying there? >> yes, i believe mr. floyd was saying "i ain't do no drugs." that. >> that's a little different than when you were asked to review a porktion of the video, right? >> yes, sir. joining us now -- profess e just kind of explain
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to people what they just saw there. they saw a defense attorney first with that witness saying he heard george floyd say, "i ate too many drugs," which you don't hear too often. and then you heard the prosecutor on redistrict replay more of the video and he heard, "i ain't do no drugs." who do you think got the better of? >> thank you for having me. a very good question. on the whole, i think it's difficult to make out what george floyd said. unfortunately james reyerson fell into a tried and true technique of agreeing with everything that nelson was saying, but with the totality of circumstances i think it was a sly move for the defense to play
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only that small portion. the defense's interpretation doesn't really make a lot of se sense. but he was caught flatfooted. it will be interesting to see what the jury takes away. again, i don't think the defense attorney's interpretation makes sense under the circumstances. >> this all plays into, right, what we all know is a portion of the defense's strategy, that it was the drugs that killed george floyd as a significant factor, not use of force. but the bottom line we know in minnesota, we have to talk about a substantial cause. don't have to have a sole cause. when we look at the case being laid out here, what are you taking away from this real focus on that moment and whatever mr. floyd may have said in terms of how it impacted the actions that
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were taken and the force that was used? >> well, first of all, i still don't understand exactly what it is he said personally, and i've listened to it a few times. let me say this. later we'll hear from the medical examiner. i've attended autopsies a number of times. they do review the stomach and we'll get an indication of. that but let's go for a while with the defense counsel that his words were "i ate too many drugs." as a police officer when you see someone induce drugs or swallow, they do that to avoid being arrested or they tell you they've ingested a large quantity of drugs, you have an obligation to get them to the hospital to get their stomach pumped because that could be
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lethal. if chauvin knew that, then, again, they had another obligation, duty of care, to get that person to the hospital to get their stomach pumped because that, again, could kill them. he's trying to solve one problem, but he could be creating another problem for himself in the process. >> professor chief ramsey, talk about the fact we're going to hear -- i don't know if it's today or tomorrow "from the medical examiner. it feels like the last few days have been a run-up in that moment to the testimony there. how do you expect the prosecution to go at this because they know going in that the defense on cross will try to score some points? >> for sure. >> go ahead, ayesha. >> no, no, no. please, chuck. you go. i thought it was for me. go ahead. >> professor. >> i am was going to say i think the medical examiner obviously
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has the report and has identified what they believe to be the cause of death to be around the actions of the police that induced a heart attack. with all the information we heard yesterday from the chemist and the forensic scientists around the quantity of the amount of fentanyl and methamphetamines and the pills that were found, i think that will play nicely into what the medical examiner and other medical experts for the state will have to say. obviously as you mentioned, the defense will do everything they can to undercut that. >> commissioner. >> i was going to say -- and this is going to revolve around that. obviously the most critical testimony is going to be be that of the medical examiner, again, the substantial cause of death. he did have drugs in his system apparently. the question is whether or not that would have been a lethal dose and would that have killed him at approximately the same
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time he expired when chauvin had him in his custody. that's going to be maybe not so easy to determine, but the other part, i think, that's important is that, you know, people develop tolerance over time, drug users, opioid users. what might be lethal for you would not be lethal for me if i'm a regular drug user. so we have to keep everything in context in terms of how much was in his system and would that have, in fact, killed him. and that's just very, very important to remember. the other thing, even the photograph they showed a couple of days ago when they showed what could be a lethal dose of fentanyl, again, drug dealers don't sell pure fentanyl. they step on it. they mix it with other types like milk, sugar, or something else. that's how they make a small profit. they take a small amount and
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sell it. there is the hot shot where they try to kill you. that does happen on occasion, but in the normal course of business, that's not what takes place. >> thank you for being with us this morning and being so polite. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you for having me. cnn has learned new details about one of the most significant attacks against u.s. forces in afghanistan. we have a live report from the pentagon next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ comfort in the extreme.
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developing this morning, cnn has learned the taliban has targeted a base with u.s. coming under fire. barbara starr is coming to us live from the pentagon. good morning. >> why is this important. we are three weeks away from may
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1st, the date on the calendar that the trump administration signed with the taliban to get troops out of afghanistan and end america's longest war. three weeks away, and instead what we're seeing is the taliban continue its attacks, its violence. the one you're mentioning, this is a base called chapman in eastern afghanistan, and at the end of march, not widely reported, there were two attacks against the base. nobody hurt, nobody injured, but it was widely believed that the taliban absolutely knew there were u.s. troops on that base. chapman has a long bitter memory, especially with the cia. it was attacked in 2009 and multiple, many cia officers were killed in that attack. just yesterday the taliban, according to u.s. officials, attacked the air base in kandahar, a base also where u.s. troops are located. so where are we right now? the biden administration is giving no indication it's going to meet that may 1st deadline,
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instead still talking to the taliban, still negotiating to try and get them to agree to give the u.s. more time. there are 2,500 u.s. troops openly serving in afghanistan, but here's what's so critical. there are about another thousand, 700, u.s. troops working for the cia, many in covert status also in afghanistan trying to deal with the counterterrorism situation there. so the real question is can the u.s. make a decision to finally pull out of afghanistan? will it leave troops for counterterrorism? is there still concern that if the u.s. leaves, the taliban is still strong enough to possibly move in and try and take control in that country. >> crucial days, crucial decisions. barbara starr, thank you so much for your reporting. so at least one of the capitol insurrection defendants
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has flipped against the proud boys, agreeing to provide information to allow the criminal justice system to bring more charges against the group's leadership. they're cooperating against the pro-trump extremist groups. the cases are still in the early stages. none of the defense has pleaded guilty. cannon's layer says she should not have been arrested in the first place and they're weighing legal action. this morning we want to take a moment to remember a colleague. midwin charles was a prominent attorney for cnn and other news outlets. the cause of her death is not known. her family released a statement saying she was known to many as a legal commentator on television, but to us she was a devoted daughter, sister, aunt,
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niece, and cousin. our lives are forever changed and we'll miss her for a lifetime. midwin charles was just 47 years old. maher memory be a blessing. we'll be right back. aliens are real, alright. there's just too much evidence. kill weeds not the lawn with roundup for lawns products.
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at rocco's tacos and tequila bar in del ray beenks customers are returning and with them talk of so-called vaccine passports. the owner rocco has been vaccinated and would like others to do the same but he's not in favor of requiring it at his restaurants for staff and customers. for him, boots freedom of choice. >> requiring people to have a vaccination card to come into the restaurant or vaccination app or passport infringes on their rights. >> reporter: that tracks with florida governor ron desantis' view. it's part yf he issued an executive order bang vaccine passports in the state of florida. desantis dismissed vaccine passports in the same way he did many other measures during the pandemic, like mask mandates and lockdowns. all in the name of protecting rights, and in this case, privacy. >> you think you get more business or see more business if a vaccine was required here? >> i think quite the opposite.
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if we required it, that would be a perception that we're trying to govern them. >> reporter: desantis argues that vaccine passports reduce individual freedom and would create two classes of citizens based on vaccination. according to the executive order, businesses here in florida are prohibited from requiring customers to provide documentation certifying a c covid-19 vaccination or post transition recovery in order to gain access to that business. desantis' order puts him at odds with those who believe they're included in the order and are planning for or at least considering requiring a vaccine passport. like this stras center for performing arts in tampa. >> it's really critical to our reopening and eventually to get us to 100% capacity. >> reporter: ceo judy leasy is surprised by and disappointed with the governor's decision. >> if you think about mass gathering places like theaters and stadiums and arenas, we're
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sitting right next to each other. so it becomes really important to have a vaccine program as an option for our guests and for our artists. >> at nova southeastern university in ft. lauderdale, proof of vaccine was going to be required for staff and students. but when i alerted the ceo to the governor's ban -- >> i will do whatever is necessary to comply with the law and the governor's executive order. >> reporter: the popular south beach wine and food festival may have to change its plans to require proof of a vaccine or negative covid test to enter next month's event. >> we'll be constantly re-evaluating up until the last second, but for now, this is the plan we have in place and the plan that i hope stays in place. >> reporter: back at rocco's tacos, he doesn't think a vaccine passport would make his
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restaurant any safer than it already is. >> people make a choice. and people need to make hopefully a choice that they're not going to put other people at risk. if. >> reporter: and now the biden administration is backing away from mandating any kind of federal vaccine passport, but no doubt republican governors will continue to make this a wedge issue with democrats. and there is some concern that that could have a real impact on vaccine hesitancy. just last month, the cnn polls showed that 57% of republicans, erica, would not get the vaccine. >> such a high number. randi, thank you. the cruise industry has been decimated by the pandemic. the cdc's no-sail order remains in effect until november. that prevents cruise lines from sailing from u.s. ports. norwegian cruise line is pitching a plan to the cdc with a hope it can resume sailing on july 4th. everyone on board must be fully
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vaccinated. frank del rio is the president and ceo of norwegian cruise line. good to have you with us. we just heard in randi's piece, a lot of hesitancy if you talk about a vaccine passport. requiring everyone be vaccinated, how will you plan to confirm that? is it at the time of booking or when they arrive? >> good morning, erica. nice to see you and thank you for having me this morning. look, our situation is a little different because we're under the thumb of the cdc. so the cdc has shut us down for over a year now. i don't know any of other industry that has suffered at the hands of any other federal agency like we have. there are many, if not all, travel, tourism and hospitality venues that are open throughout the country that never shut down or certainly open today. we want to be treated fairly and treated just like every other industry. and the cdc is not cooperating
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up until now. it's time that the cruise industry, that the people understand the plight that we're under. why should we be different? and so if it takes vaccines to break that logjam with the cdc, that's what we're prepared to do. >> i wonder if we can put this up on the screen. in addition to that, you're requiring a negative test before boarding, also masks on board. also limiting capacity to 60%. how did you come up with that number? what's the science behind that? >> there's a lot of science behind everything we have proposed. as you may know, back in may of 2020, together with royal caribbean group, we stood up the healthy sail panel led by scott gottlieb and former health and human services secretary mike levitt. they put together a blue ribbon panel that came forth with 74 protocols that were issued in late september, submitted to the cdc in the fall, which is cdc
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has completely ignored. so every one of those 74 protocols has been vetted by these blue ribbon panel members that i mentioned. but the cornerstone of our return to service proposal to the cdc, which as you said we submitted to them on monday, but we've not yet heard back anything from them is the vaccine. the vaccine is supposed to be the game changer, the silver bullet. when society is marching towards. there's a race going on in this world to vaccinate everyone. and so i challenge you to tell me another venue on earth where you can be guaranteed that everyone inside that venue, whether it's a grocery store, an office building, a school, a resort, a casino, a hotel, everyone is vaccinated, protected, and on top of that, you layer in this multi-prong, 74 protocols developed by the best scientific minds in america. what could possibly be safer than that? >> two quick points before i let
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you go because we're a little tight on time. based on the vaccines, correct me if my numbers are wrong, some 30,000 workers laid off. a lot of your workforce are foreign workers. many of them are in their home countries. how do you ensure they'll be able to get vaccinated? we can see the issues that are facing a lot of other countries versus the u.s. in terms of vaccinations. >> if people are not vaengted, they're not getting on board a norwegian vessel. so we'll source vaccines for our crew or else we won't sail. >> okay. and you're able to source them on your own independently? >> we believe we will. certainly by the time we propose to sail some time this summer, yes. >> okay. so i definitely want more details on that as soon as you have that ready. the other thing that cdc put out when they said there's no specific date in their most recent guidance for when you can resume operations. they said you must report cases every day instead of weekly. i know your plans to test when people arrive. based on what i saw on your
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website, there will be testing capacity on board. but do you plan to test daily and transmit that information back to the cdc on a daily basis? >> we've asked the cdc to lift the conditional sail order, not just us, but our entire industry. we think it's an unworkable proposal. as far as we're concerned, it is just not doable. and we have a better proposal. our proposal is everybody on board is vaccinated. everybody on board has to follow these science-based, very strict protocols so the need for all this nonsense, daily reporting. do hotels report daly? airlines report daily? no one does, why should the cruise industry be exposed to that kind of draconian requirements. it's just not fair. it's discriminatory, and we hope the cdc comes to the table soon to discuss all these issues because up until now, they haven't.
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>> frank del rio, we appreciate your time this morning. and please let us know when you do hear -- i'm going to think positively hear -- when you do hear from the cdc because there are a lot of folks wondering where and when this will begin to change. thanks again. "new day" continues right now. >> joe manchin stating yet again, we're not going to do anything with the filibuster. >> how does joe manchin ever support getting rid of the filibuster. >> the president going through these actions that they believe are going to stem some of the gun violence we've seen. >> i don't need to wait another minute to take common sense steps that will save lives in the future. >> that more contagious coronavirus variant first found in the uk now dominates here. >> all the more reason to get vaccinated as quickly as possible. >> hang in there a bit longer to get each day more and more people by the millions are getting vaccinated. >> this is "new day."
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>> good morning. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." i'm john berman. erica hill is here with me this morning. >> morning, my friend. >> nice to see you. >> has one man just thrown the president's infrastructure plan off the rails? you thought i was done. you thought i was done with infrastructure metaphors there. west virginia democratic senator joe manchin wrote a message opposing passing key legislation on strict party line votes. manchin says he's alarmed by that process. since no republicans at this point publicly support the biden plan, at least not yet, that puts it in serious peril. or, i guess, as much peril as joe manchin wants it to be. >> meantime, overnight, 70,000 new coronavirus reported in the united states. and hospitalizations just hit their highest level in a month. the cdc confirming the

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