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people by the millions getting vaccinated. >> announcer: this is "new day." welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day," thursday, april 8th, 6:00 in new york. i'm john berman along with erica hill. >> nice to see you. >> you know how dos equis has the most interesting man in the world, with the beard? >> i know all about it. >> how about the most powerful man in the world. this morning it might not be joe biden or zee others. how about joe manchin. he's putting himself in the middle of passing the $2 trillion bill. he indicated overnight he's opposed to passing key legislation on strict party votes, that he is alarmed by that process.
and since we haven't heard any republican saying they support the white house infrastructure plan just yet, that puts it in serious, serious peril. later this morning the president will announce his first executive actions on guns in response to the latest flurry of mass shootings. meanwhile the united states reporting more than 70,000 new coronavirus cases. hospitalizations climbing to their highest level in a month, and the cdc confirming that the highly contagious variant which was first identified in the united kingdom is now the most common strain of the coronavirus here in the united states. despite that, the cdc director says she believes all children will be back in classrooms by september. let's beginning with jeremy diamond who's live at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: senator joe manchin may not have mentioned president joe biden by name in his op-ed post, but there's no question
the senator from west virginia has just made the president's job that much harder, joe manchin not only reiterating his opinion regarding the filibuster but also he says it's dangerous to continue using this burngt reconciliation process and passing key legislation along party lines. let me read you just a small expert from this op-ed. senator manchin writes there is no circumstance in which i will vote to eliminate or weaken the filibuster. i simply do not believe budget reconciliation should replace regular order in the senate. he goes on to say it would set a new and dangerous precedent if democrats continue to move forward by using budget reconciliation as the norm instead of regular order in the senate which requires not a simple majority of the simple vote plus the vice president or senators but 60 votes in order to proceed on legislation. why is this key? that's because democrats have
been eyeing this budget reconciliation process to pass the $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill now as they look toward passing this massive $2.2 trillion infrastructure proposal that president joe biden just laid out over the last week. now, to be clear, senator manchin did not specifically say i will not vote for an infrastructure package if indeed it moves forward through the budget reconciliation process, but he's saejd clear marker here, a very clear signal not only to democrats and republicans in the senate but the white house. he wants to see this move forward in a bipartisan manner. how that gets accomplished is a whole other question given the fact the republicans have rejected not only the size and scope of president biden's plan here but also disagrees with the ways to pay for it. the president has said he wants to work with republicans on capitol hill, but those areas of agreement have yet to reveal themselves in any significant
way. now, today we will also see president biden talking about some steps that he's going to be taking today to act on gun violence in the united states. he's going to take measures to tighten restrictions on the so-called ghost guns and pistolizing braces, one used for the shooting in colorado. and also a gun control advocate worked closely with gabby giffords in the shooting years ago. john? >> jeremy diamond at the white house. please keep us posted. joining us now, alex burns, a national correspondent for "the new york times." congratulations to you and em jay, on your beautiful daughter
thank you. >> i want to play somewhat of a drinking game here without saying the words reconciliation or filibuster, please explain to us why this is now such a major problem for the infrastructure bill which the president has said he's going to focus on almost exclusively for the next several months? >> well, john, democrats throughout the senate and the party have looked for a certain legislative procedure that's used for spending and taxes only as a way of escaping the republicans' influence over the senate and sort of the required legislative super majority to proceed on major legislation. i think i did okay avoiding the buzz words there, but, look, there has been a sense among democrats particularly after the par liamentarian they can use te procedure more often than they previously believed that they could, that maybe they can ram through a whole bunch of trophy legislation, major, major
priorities, included but not limited to infrastructure on the pure party line basis the same way they did with the republicans. there are a lot who are excited about that because they slim i do not believe the republican party is interested in doing business and having serious negotiations around their priorities. and what joe manchin is very, very clearly saying now and i think it bears sort of a dwelling on it, john, he has said this many times before that his strong preference and perhaps his overwhelming preference is that they work with republicans, that they make concessions to the other side in order to get things done across the aisle. and there remains, needless to say, an enormous skepticism that that's a viable strategy. >> to point out, alex, this is not the first time we've heard this from joe manchin, right? what's behind this, do you know, the decision to put this out there in this op-ed? what is that changing in terms of the message from joe manchin, if anything?
>> there has clearly been, erica, accelerating momentum behind the idea, let's basically use reconciliation for everything. >> wink. >> everything we can conceivably call a budget adjacent, let's call it a reconciliation bill and ram it from there, whether it's d.c. statehood or certain immigration provisions, measures in the past that would not have been seen as natural fits for the budget process, and i think what manchin is indicating that's not an approach he's enthusiastic about taking right now. one of the big questions and i don't necessarily expect him to answer in a blunt way and might not be answerable right now, is it a red line for him that he doesn't want to use reconciliation on the broad democratic ada, or is this mostly an emphatic statement that he wants to try other avenues and exhaust those avenues first, that if he were to find himself in a couple of months in a position where it's
clear they're not interested in doing infrastructure legislation and he needs to pursue proceeding on a party line basis or not proceeding at all, i think it's an open question what he would do, but it's clear he's not prepared to proceed on a pure party line basis tomorrow. >> you've gotten to the big question, alex, is how far will joe manchin push this? will he be the person standing in the way of joe biden getting infrastructure bill? what's your hunch? >> look. as much as he's made so many emphatic statements about pursuing bipartisanship, he's also made statements about wanting bide on the be a successful president. when it comes to it, it's valuable to his home state of virginia. it's not a superdivisive or controversial policy propoedals,
b but on the wider set where it could maybe be shoehorned, i would be much more pessimistic. >> i want to get your take on the fact we're supposed to hear from president biden on executive action when it comes to guns, gun control. this is not the only thing we're going to hear today when it comes to guns. that, too, is another indication of just how difficult it is, i think, to get things done in washington right now. >> absolutely. you know, the image that the president is going to project today and the substance of what he's ordering is a clear indication that he wants to be seen as very active and aggressive on gun control, and the man he has chosen to head atf, certainly sends a very, very favorable signal to gun control groups, but it's very clear right now, there's not a great path in the house and senate, really the senate, for gun control legislation. the white house doesn't seem to want to spend a whole lot of
time on capital that's certain not to pass. >> thanks for playing the game with us. the infrastructure bill is so important to the administration and a lot of americans as well. thank you. >> thanks a lot. so the cdc says that the b.1.1.7. variant that we see in the united kingdom is now the most dominant strain of the coronavirus here in the united states. what does this mean between the race for the vaccines and the variants next. with fidelity. and with a scenario that makes it a possibility, she'll enjoy her dream right now. that's the planning effect, from fidelity. life... doesn't stop for diabetes. be ready for every moment, with glucerna. it's the number one doctor recommended brand that is scientifically designed to help manage your blood sugar. live every moment. glucerna. age-related macular degeneration may lead to severe vision loss.
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severe disease. based on our most recent estimates from cdc surveillance, the b.1.1.7. variant is now the most common lineage circulating in the united states. >> the director of the cdc confirming the more transmissible variant, the b.1.1.7. variant from the uk is now dominant in the united states. more than 70,000 cases added in this country and hospitalizations are now at the highest point in a month. doctor, always good to see you. i want to pick up on hospitalizations there because we just heard, too, from dr. walensky that younger adults are now seeing more hospitalizations. what should we take into account there because more people are vaccinated, right? >> yes, yes. this morning, erica, that is something we need to focus on.
what we know about these mutant strains, in particular, the b.1.1.7. strains, they're more transmissible, meaning they're more contagious. they can be up to 50% more contagious. if they're more contagious, it's going to spread among those who are more than likely not vaccinated or protected. you will see an increase in hospitalizations and typically an increase in death. this gives us fuel to ensure our vaccines are getting deep into the community. this is probably what drove the president to update or hasten when we wanted to have vaccines available to all 16-year-olds and older by april 19th instead of may 1st. >> between erica and me, we've got south korea, baseball, and la crosse covered. it's really concerning because it's something we haven't seen much in the last year. why is this happening now really
for the first time, and what are the longer-term implications of that? >> john, i think we should be concerned. i'm having these con very sanctions with friends. i'm having these conversations with family. again, the virus is looking for a way to survive. the virus cannot survive without having a host. as we get the more contagious strains -- and we know the b.1.1.7. variant is a predominant variant in the united states, the virus is going to look for a host so it can survive, and those hosts unfortunately are those who are unvaccinated, and our youths are unvaccinated. especially when you have states reopening, not just sports, you have people trying to resume what they consider to be their normal life. you give people an opportunity to get together, people are not going to practice safe distancing of at least six feet when they're together. unfortunately our youth and
young adults are susceptible. we can control that by following the data, following the science, slowing down the participation and putting in as much as safeguards as possible. that's what i'm telling my family and friends. >> our colleague kaitlan collins asked in the briefing, what's the marker we can look at where we know we're past this. he said, look, there's no number i can point to, we'll know when there's a drop in cases, which is the opposite of what we're seeing now. given the covid fatigue and saying that's the magic number, how do we keep people engaged the public health numbers? >> it's a challenge. i'm not going to underestimate that. i'm looking at the seven-day average for new cases. always flirting between 63,000 and 64,000. you just announced at the start of this segment we've added over 70,000 cases in this past day.
that as a baseline is too high. in order for us to get this pandemic under control or be in a safe position or get safe and stay safe, we need those baseline cases, baseline new infections to dramatically increase. in order for that to happen, we need more people vaccinated. and those not eligible, we need parents, schools, assistants, sports, we have to keep in mind we all have a role to play. i want us to have a very robust summer. when i say very rowbust summer, i'm look at june and july. there are hard decisions thwe he to make through the month of april and may. >> as a society, we know, places are opening up, people are going out. if you can put your
prognosticator hat on, what's going to happen? we know what people are doing. we know what the vaccination rate is. where will we be in a month if things continue at the current pace? >> look, john. we have evidence of what can happen. look at what's happening across five states in the united states, michigan, florida, pennsylvania, new york, and new jersey. more than 40% of the cases are coming from those five states that's likely due to the dominant b.1.1.7. strain, but yet they're only responsible for 22% of the american population. i think it's the stories, the stories about those kinds of encounter that can be driving the percentage of new cases. those states, looking at the families, households in those states, they need to look at it and say what can i do to set an example. i continue to see on my social
media, young adults, black and latino americans hospitalized. they should look at what's happening in those states where we're seeing rises and we can control this. we've proven that before. whenever the numbers uptick, we push down on the gas and say, whoa, let's vaccinate more and that we pull back on our activities. those are the two actions that need to happen in tandem. we can do this. i know we can do this. and this is what we must do so we can redefine some sort of normal in our country. >> dr. chris prenell, thank you for being with us this morning. >> george floyd and zeroing in on his drug use. what to expect today at the trial. we're going to break all of that down for you next.
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testimony resumes in just a few hours in the derek chauvin murder trial. in court wednesday lawyers pressed the lead investigator about what george floyd said about drugs as he was pinned to the ground with a knee to his neck minutes before he was killed. cnn's adrienne broaddus live. >> reporter: john, they continue to call police officers and expert witnesses to build its case. a key moment came when one of the witnesses changed his testimony over what he heard floyd say when a video clip was played. use-of-force expert sergeant jodie steiger testified wednesday that minnesota police
officers used deadly force on george floyd last may. >> my opinion is no force should have been used once he was in that position. >> reporter: also taking the stand singer specialist james reyerson who investigated floyd's death. >> i'm going to ask you to listen to mr. floyd's voice. did you hear that. >> yes, i did. >> did it appear that mr. floyd say i ate too many drugs? >> yes, i did. >> reporter: but when the prosecution introduced a longer version of the audio individual yoerks he heard mr. floyd say something different. >> in the context, did you hear what mr. floyd said? >> yes. i ain't do no drugs. >> reporter: he said the crowd at the scene was a per received threat and distracted chauvin
during floyd's arrest. >> when someone starts threatening you, it's a possible possibility that an officer can view that as a potential deadly assault is about to happen. that's what they're trained. >> yes, that's what they're trained. >> reporter: when questions about the crowds on chauvin's actions, he told prosecutors this. >> i did not perceive them as a threat. >> why is that? >> they were merely filming and most was their concern for floyd. >> reporter: the defense also argued chauvin's knee was sometimes on floyd's shoulder and not only his neck. prosecutors pushing back. >> is the risk related to the pressure on the neck or the pressure on the body? >> the pressure on the body. any additional pressure on the body complicated breathing more so than if there was no pressure at all. >> reporter: three forensic experts also testified
wednesday, discussing pills found in both floyd's vehicle and the police squad car. >> that the squad collected from the pill, i obtained a single dna source that matches george floyd. >> reporter:after an eighth day of testimony, the floyd family called it a distraction. >> we can't be distracted by these innuendos and allegations to try to distract us from what really happened. >> reporter: meanwhile chauvin is charged with second-and third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. next up, the medical examiner. the medical examiner is the person who conducted the autopsy, and the medical examiner will be able to tell us
mr. floyd's cause of death. joining us is a former federal prosecutor. so, jen, i ate too many drugs, i ain't do no drugs. why was that such an important moment, and who got the better of it? >> well, john, the defense lawyer's job is to create reasonable doubt. hard to tell what resonates with a jury. what they typically do is throw a bunch of arguments out there to true i to undermine the prosecution's case and hopes something sticks. that's the big thing here, causation. if george floyd took a bunch of drugs, that goes to what actually killed him. as to who got the better of it, obviously the prosecution cleaned it up and offered a long snippet without having words fed to him, and what he ultimately said, i ain't do no drugs. ultimately the prosecution got the better of it.
the jurors can listen to the recording. the fact that the witnesses said what they thought they heard is an aid to the jury. the jury may think, the defense attorneys tried to trick us. i think ultimately it probably was at least neutral or definitely didn't help the defense, but it was certainly one of those things that sometimes happens in court and as a prosecutor you have to clean it up afterward. a little bit embarrassing, but not harmful. >> i was struck by some of the pools in the courtroom because we obviously can't see the jury as we're watching the trial coverage on tv. some journalists noted they were taking more notes about discussions of possible distractions with the police officers, but they were having a harder time staying fully engaged. the fact that there may have been more note taking when
talking about was there a distraction and how did it impact the officers, was there anything to read into that? >> i think it demonstrates they're paying attention to what's important. we know it needs to be done, but it's not really the key of the issue here. if i'm the prosecutor, i'm always happy when my jurors are paying attention to the important stuff, so i think that again is a good sign for them. >> you brought up cause yag. what caused george floyd to die. we're inching closer to hearing from the medical examiner, the witness testimony about what exactly happened there. how do you think the prosecution -- based on what we've seen, because we already have clues on
this -- how are they going to approach it? >> they're going to approach it the way they have so far, to put it all out there so the jury didn't think anything, just lay it out. this was a homicide. there were a bunch of things going on over whether the actual cause of death or afsphyxiation was the cause of death but ultimately it's what were the actions of george floyd and derek chauvin. they'll get it all out there. and they'll argue that drugs are not an important enough factor to cut into what the law is. it has to be a substantial factor. >> give us your thoughts if you would as a former prosecutor the way we're seeing the prosecution lay out its case. more emotional in the first week. more technical in week two.
ultimately moving on to the medical examiner. how does that leave things in the mind of the juror when you're progressing this way? >> prosecutors always want to start strong and end strong. so you definitely want to start with a strong witness who you think the jury is going to remember. you'll recall the 911 supervisor. they'll likely try to end with a strong witness understanding jurors have a limited attention span. sometime in the middle they're going to flag and at the end of the day. prosecutors give thought to when the jurors are paying the most attention and when they'll 'll - is up mitt notes. that was one of the questions
i've been having right now is witnesses call by the prosecution. they must note there's some vulnerability, yet, they're still putting it out there. i thought it was interesting they say it's worth the risk and it helps to be transparent. >> you always want to do what we call draw the stain. if there's something bad that's likely to come out on the defense side because remember prosecution turns over the evidence to the prep so they can ask those questions and ee less it the information in a way that they think is there. you have to ske is it worth a call? worth the bad information coming out and doing it in the least harmful way. i think they've done a good job of that.
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waiting around for this infrastructure on research and development? i promise you they're not waiting, but they're counting on american democracy to be too slow, too limited, and fotoo divided to keep pace. >> president biden framing the infrastructure push as a national security issue, arguing that he's trying to keep the u.s. competitive with china. joining me now, the author of jt joe biden: the life, the run,
and what happens now." great to have you here. say joe biden is trying to play offense and defense when it comes to china. what do you mean by that? >> he's drawing a distinction between the focus. terrorists have held them up. that's not really the defense side of the case. they say, if we want to becompetitive in the long term, we have to play offense. look, china over the last generation has built more high-speed rail, more highway than the rest of the world combined, and in a lot of ways, it has taken advantage of the period in american politics when we have been divided, when we have had a hard time making choices. and what joe biden is saying is it's time for us to make those investments. if we want to be able to pli as a serious competitor not just
next year but ten years and 20 years down the road. >> that sounds so obvious, but it actually does signify a shift in china policy and a shift in joe biden's own thinking. one of the things i've been struck by, i keep on one doerring why he keeps mentioning how long he's known xi jinping. he keeps referring back to that. but the fact of the matter is, that's a period where he clearly thought differently about china. he just did. and his thinking has now evolved to where it is when he's talking about outcompeting them. explain that. >> yeah, it's really interesting, john. in many ways joe biden's thinking is a reflection of how washington has moved over the course of the last ten years. i remember i was in beijing when joe biden came over in 2011. they were official counterparts.
they were both vice presidents and joe biden was sent over to sus him out. he decided to go to a local restaurant, an earthy canteen, something right near my house where i used to live, and he did that partly as a way of saying to the chinese people, we know you're concerned about corruption in your own system. at that point the chinese communist party was really on its heels about looking secluded and out of touch. joe biden went out and did what he like do, shook hands, the whole thing. xi jinping showed his own thing by going to a restaurant and eating dumplings. they've been at this a long time. biden came back to washington, and in the months that followed, what he said to people privately was, this guy, xi jinping, is
serious business, meaning, as he put it, he is not a democrat, small league democrat. he's not somebody who's going to lead people down the path of reform. but joe biden believed there was still fundamentally a path for cooperation between the two countries, and what you see today is much tougher. his administration describes it as extreme competition, and there has been this real sort of basic revision in the way the people of washington conceive of the possibility of dealing with these two countries, and now we're on a much -- it's a very tense time because it's not clear how to maintain that line of intense competition without letting it explode into something more volatile, which would be destructive for both sides. >> it's a significant shift and notably important as it moves forward. also weighing in on this and
what's complicating things, there's a genocide in china with the uighurs. your friends at the new yorker have a phenomenal piece about oppression and what's going on there. how does the biden administration deal with this? it's something china is denying is happening. the world knows it. the world health organization knows it. china is hosting the olympics in a year. the united states has backed off boycotting, but how much pressure is the u.s. looking to put on china here? >> it's going to be a more sensitive issue as the months go by. as you say, there's been really powerful reporting in "the new yorker." you've seen a level of detail about understanding what it's like to be in these detention centers. china has obtained as many as a million people in xinjiang.
others call it genocide. they're imposing restrictions and sanctions. the olympics, of course, is a hugely sensitive priority for xi jinping. he wants to pull off a spectacle to show china's strong and consider deft. it's gotten longer in the past few weeks among corporations and governments. they say, how can we go there if the genocide is on its way. human rights is calling it genocide games. the china is determining to bring this bachlkt expect to hear more. this is not going away. >> this is the largest internment we've seen since world war ii. it's significant. the world knows what's going on. evan osnos, thank you for
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famous pimento sandwich. good morning. it's interesting. the 2021 masters being paid 25 months after last year's edition was push ed back due to covid. masks and social distancing still required, but with the fans comes a sense of normalcy, and the players can't wait to see them. a masters tradition with the honorary starters. joining jack nicklaus and gary player will be lee elder. back in 1975 elder became the first black man to play in the masters. he's now 86 years old, still breaking barriers. he'll be the first african-american to open the most prestigious game of black, mindful of a painful era. >> when i heard cer-- tried to y at certain places, you can't
play here, when i tried to eat as certain places, i couldn't eat there. those are the obstacles i tried to overcome, and i did. >> it was so inspiring to be in the room with him. he said in a message to us you have to look at where you came from to look at how far you've come. he'll be there with his daughter and he'll cherish the moment. >> good for the masters. there's a lot in the legacy that needs overturning. coy, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. "new day" continues right now. this is not good news for joe biden, and it puts manchin right where he wants to be, which is at the center of everything. >> i happen to agree with him on the filibuster. >> president biden taking executive action to try to address a small part of the gun issue. >> this should not be a partisan issue. >> trends are increasing in case