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vault in a recent competition and flashed a vaccination card that he pulled out of his jersey. he had it on him. of course, the vault and card went viral. he tweeted go get vaccinated, everyone. officials used verbal gymnastic to get the vaccination message across. evan took it to a new level. tank thanks for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening. republican lawmakers declare war on major league baseball after it moves to atlanta over georgia's voting restrictions. we begin with important testimony in the testimony of fired minneapolis police officer derek chauvin taking the stand today, the doctor who tried but could not save george floyd's lifer and the police chief who told jurors what chauvin did to floyd went against department policy, training, ethics and values. omar jimenez joins us for coverage. >> reporter: the start of week two of testimony and the current
minneapolis police chief takes the stand in the trial of derek chauvin, his former officer. >> do you have a belief as to when this restraint, restraint on the ground that you viewed should have stopped? >> once mr. floyd had stopped resisting and certainly, once he was in distress and trying to verbalize that to continue to apply that level of force to a person proned out, handcuffed behind their back, that in no way, shape or form is anything that is by policy and is not part of our training and it is certainly not part of our ethics or values. >> reporter: in late may, the chief fired chauvin and three other officers involved a day after the incident. he wrote a letter weeks later
saying chauvin knew what he was doing and what happened to mr. floyd was murder. >> is it your belief that this particular form of restraint, if that's what we'll call it in fact violates department policy? >> i absolutely agree it vie lates our policy. >> reporter: then the defense asked questions as part of examination. >> the issue you take with it is the length of time? >> counselor, couple of issues. is the person a threat to the officers or others? is the severity of the crime? are you reevaluating and assessing the person's medical condition. >> reporter: while the police background was a focus, so, too, was the medical background as a doctor that officially declared george floyd dead took the stand. >> any amount of time a patient spends in cardiac arrest without immediate cpr decreases the
chance of a good outcome. approximately ten to 15% decrease in survival for every minute that cpr is not administered. >> reporter: by that testimony, floyd survivaability decreased y 50%. the doctor told prosecutors his leading theory on floyd's cause of death was cardiac arrest by oxygen deficiency, asphyxia. the defense pointed to drugs as the primary cause of death. >> there are many things that cause apox ya that could be considered as fix yax, agreed? >> agreed. >> fentanyl? >> correct. >> meth? >> it can. >> reporter: marking a shift from the week one theme to making a case for what chauvin
pleaded not guilty to, second degree untingintentional murder third degree murder and manslaughter. >> so beyond what we saw in the report, there was another witness late in the day. >> reporter: that's right, anderson. the last witness to f testify to today was the commander of the training division of the minneapolis police department and she was shown a picture of derrick chauvin leaning on the neck of george floyd and simply said i don't know what imp viced restraint that is because we don't teach that and when you take her testimony in the context of everything we've seen, it is note worthy how many senior level current police officers within the minneapolis police department have testified in this trial. many of them saying that chauvin's actions do not line up with what they believe should have happened in this and it's a group that includes the current minneapolis police chief who if you remember, fired these four officers involved within 48 hours of this happening.
as we now in this week two of testimony shift from basically defining what happened on may 25th to now moving to what it all means. tomorrow morning we'll be hearing from a brand-new witness as again we continue into this week two of testimony. >> omar, thanks. joining us now are former federal prosecutor laura coats and criminal defense attorney mark omecmer ra. lauren, how damaging to the defense was the testimony by the police chief? >> extremely damaging. this comes after more officers, law enforcement officers setting a ten-foot pole showing to the jury look, an officer is entitled to use force but there is a clear line in the sand, anderson, when it goes from reasonable use of force to criminal assault and that line apparently seems to be where the training stops and of course, where there is no longer force being used to resist these
officers. this is the chief of police who is making the statement. he is somebody who has a lot of experience in law enforcement in minneapolis along with training. there is no way to undermine the fact that if he said it's not part of the training or the policies combine that with other testimony, it is extremely damaging to get to the defense. >> chief ramsey, how unusual is it for a sitting police chief to testify against somebody who was one of his officers? >> well, it is unusual as far as testifying in court. usually when you testify against one of your officers you fired or disciplined, it's in an arbitration hearing, which obviously is not televised. so this is a very high profile case. it's beinging televised. he's being called as a witness. i was a police chief for 17 years. i can recall three or four times i had to appear in court to
testify against an officer. >> mark, i'm wondering what you thought the impact of the police chief's testimony was and the defense, what it does to the defense's case. >> i really think it is devastating as laura said because you now have the chief of police coming in and saying that was not sanctioned. that's not the way it should have been done. that's not the way we would have done it and when you have that information, the jury is looking to find out an excuse or reason why chauvin did what he did and we have the cadence of this trial being the emotion of the moment with the video, the bystanders and now we have law enforcement coming in and telling these jurors that is not the way chauvin should have acted and has no justification for it and after all, that is the essence of the case and the defense is going to have to deal with that. >> laura, we heard today from the doctor who pronounced george floyd dead at the hospital. is there another name for death by oxygen deficiency. the doctor responded asphyxia. does that bolster how much i guess does that bolster the
prosecution's case. >> you were right to clarify the question because it honestly does betrust the prosecution's case for this reason. remember, the commonsense approach cannot be left behind. the idea of saying that somebody died because their heart stopped and then using that to try to excuse criminal liability of the person who may have been a causal factor to why the heart stopped, it's essentially setting up this idea how we expect to have this battle of the experts about what one autopsy said or a medical examiner report or the family's use of an autopsy, et cetera. it's about saying it goes to the same issue here, why did the heart stop. not whether it did. we know it did. that's how human beings die. their hearts no longer operate. they no longer function. what caused it? this idea of trying to figure out whether there is a special causal factor not only on the neck of george floyd, excuse me, but the pressure on his body
when he's in a prone position handcuffed unable to rest fully for the chest to be able to expand. it's setting up what we know to be the other part of this case, anderson, not just whether it was reasonable or excessive force. we know it was excessive from the law enforcement testimony but now whether that was the causal factor in the death, that's where they're going. that is where the prosecution is heading. >> mark, it's clear the defense is bringing in the narcotics or potential influence of narcotics on the cause of death. >> that's exactly what they have to do. if you think about it, the defense's job in this case is to try to create or to set the scene for a reasonable doubt in at least one of the jurors minds if not all 12. the way they do that is say there are alternative methods or possibilities for why he passed not just because of what chauvin did and that's why he mentioned things like asphyxia and we know we'll hear about the drugs and the combination of drugs and the
fluid in his lung because the defense has to come up and try to show the jury there is some other reason that he would have passed. that's this whole excited argument that we'll hear a lot more about that we heard just a touch of so far. we'll hear a lot of that because that's an alternative given by many police or given to many police for actions where people pass and it's going to be the essence of the defense in this case. >> yeah, mark, at this point, do you think, we're in week two of this trial and the defense obviously is going to have their opportunity to present their case. do you think they are already changing their potential defense or how does what they've heard so far impact what they themselves are going to try to present do you think? >> we have to presume they knew this was coming or most of this was coming. they had the opportunity for discovery and had all the information. i think the defense needs to be a bit careful. sewing seeds of reasonable doubt is what defense attorneys do but
going at many of the witnesses from the emt to the grandfather testified to system of those people, i think they need to be careful because if you turn off this jury, if you lose your credibility with this jury as the defense attorney, it works against you, of course, but more importantly, your client and needs to be real careful. they will focus on cause of death. focus on that and leave the rest alone. >> from the police inspector led the department's training, she testified chauvin's knee on floyd's neck was not consistent with training. combine that with the testimony from the police chief. it certainly is for the defense seems like a big hill to climb whether this was something that was appropriate. >> it's also insurmountable at this point. you have -- remember, we have three other officers that will stand trial and one of them is somebody on the scene, anderson, asked shouldn't we move this person on to their side?
this is somebody who is e essentially a rookie compared to the tenure of derek chauvin who tells you the training must have been such that even a rookie officer knew. cut back to the other officers including the most tenured law enforcement official in minneapolis lieutenant zimmerman testified last week who also said 1985 he was able to understand that you had a compromised respiratory system. you could not breathe in the prone position with handcuffs on. they have known this day in and out and year after year. the police chief talked about how you must have annual training to make sure that down have the muscle memory of logic, all of these things. so it comes down to one thing. derek chauvin, according to the testimony, he obviously knew better. he was trained better. so why didn't he follow that training? why didn't he do so? if that question is on the tip of my tongue, it is lingering in the minds of jurors which is
exactly where you want to be when you're the prosecution. >> and chief ramsey, just, what does it say to you that it was as laura said, a relative rookie who raised his voice and said, you know, shouldn't we put him on his side and referencing something that he had assumed learned recently at the academy about somebody in distress? >> well, i mean, not only the rookie but everyone in the minneapolis police department with the exception of derek chauvin know that that's not process or procedure to keep a person in prone position like that and have your knee in their neck. that is not in training anywhere in the united states. it is an uphill battle for him. i know they are trying to knit pick was his knee an inch here or there? i mean, you know, he's cherry picking the video right when the paramedics get there, he may probably have shifted his position slightly. what about the other nine minutes? i mean, we know what we're
looking at here and, you know, he had his knee on the neck. others had pressure on his back. he was in a prone position. i mean, that's just a recipe for disaster and that's exactly what happened. >> chief ramsey, laura coats, appreciate it. thank you. more on the cause of death forensic scientists joins us and the defense attempt's to cast doubt. the high heat of nation's past time baseball threw georgia in defense of the nation's life force voting and the political blow back ahead on "360." cal: our confident forever plan is possible with a cfp® professional. a cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪ renae is not an influencer, she's more of a groundbreaker. to find your cfp® professional.
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persuade jurors what they see on the video killed george floyd, nothing more that view as you saw was boll stered by the doct that treated floyd. >> doctor, was your leading theory for the cause of mr. dip floyd's cardiac arrest oxygen d. >> i thought based on the i information i had it was more likely than the other possibilities. >> doctor, is there another name for death by oxygen deficiency. >> asphyxia is a commonly understood term. >> thank you, doctor. >> there is more to be learned and struggling to breathe. we're joined by a professor, do you agree with the testimony
that cardiac arrest likely occurred because of asphyxia? >> yes, yes, absolutely. i think what the e.r. doctor found was a very elevated carbon dioxide level which is an indication of respiratory distress, insufficient oxygen getting to the brain and all other parts of the body, and that would lead to flat lining the electrical activity was nil and that's why defiblation was not even applied because you can't defib late someone in that position. after working on him for 30 minutes and ruling out various possibilities, he concluded that it was due to hypoxia which is a result of asphyxia. asphyxia can come about for many different reasons. and that really is the crux of
the matter. and so that's where we have to answer the question is what led to the hypoxia? it due to the asphyxia, compression asphyxia? the airway blocked and that is resolved in the autopsy report. >> you've, i believe, looked at the autopsy report. is that resolved? >> well, the autopsy report as you know goes through the body from head to toe and it's the various abrasions and bruises to the face to the shoulders to the arms are described. they also describe problems that were of natural cause, in other words mr. floyd had coronary artery disease, there was a narrowing of the vessels. he had hypertension. he had an enlarged heart. but, you know, remember that a medical examiner also brings
into the conclusion reports of the police and videotapes, as well before any conclusion is reached. so it does look like the medical examiner agrees that it is asphyxia although that was not the term used. the medical examiner used an expression about being subdued, restrained and net compression and pulmonary arrest can happen for various reasons. so it's important in explaining the medical examiner's autopsy report to understand what happened to mr. floyd at the scene when the police were there trying to restrain him using neck compression, the positioning that they put him in handcuffs to the back. that's as we said a recipe for death. not a good --
>> obviously, let me just say the defense obviously, you know, cross e-examined the e.r. docto that treated floyd asking if drug use can cause hypoxia and fentanyl and methamphetamine w would cause that? >> the defense is interested in that because mr. floyd had a lethal dose, 11 nanograms per millimeter of blood would be lethal for most people but of course, when you're a drug abuser and you're using fentanyl, which is a very potent drug you build up a tolerance and from the appearance of mr. floyd at cup foods, he appeared to be breathing normally. he may have been a little walking a little bit oddly, but he was certainly alive and breathing. so he was tolerant. of course, you can overdose to
an extent even with tolerance it can cause death but fentanyl causes respiratory dysfunction, decreases respiration and die lates blood vessels and can lead to hypoxia and that's exactly what the defense wants to hear. >> i appreciate your time. a lot to be learned. appreciate it. more fallout in the wake of major league's decision due to the legislation in georgia democrats say restricts voting rights. details on that when we continue. i just stuff everything in. you have to wash on cold, because it saves energy. the secret is, tide pods work no matter how you wash. so, everyone is right. it's got to be tide.
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find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com republican governor of texas was invited as elected officials are routinely invited to throw out the first pitch for the texas rangers but governor abbott declined for the major league baseball decision to move from atlanta saying baseball developed a false narrative about georgia's law that democrats claim restricts voting rights. this is mitch mcconnell also assailed baseball's decision linking it to corporate statements from delta airlines and dock cola. mcconnell calls the actions outrage industrial complex all of which puts a major american sport that usually avoids political controversy squarely in the middle of one. i want to get perspective from
cnn national correspondent john king and cnn political analyst, white house reporter for "the washington post." john, i know two things you're passionate about, sports and politics. you've been a political reporter and red sox fan, i imagine for longer than you've been a political reporter. what do you make of this confrontation between america's past time and this law in georgia? >> it's a continued evolution and escalation of sports getting involved in something for years, anderson avoided which is politics. you've seen this back in 2017 when the nba pulled the all-star game out of charlotte because of the quote unquote bathroom law said penalized people that made the choice they were transgender and we saw nascar getting involved about the confederate flag. more and more sports as a business, fan base, sports responds to political pressure and most are urban focused. baseball was late. the last major organization that issued a statement after the
george floyd killing and on the opening day in the covid season it put black lives matter on the field and players uniform. major league baseball made this choice that again is part of this evolution and escalation that you're seeing where sports for years decided we don't do politics more and more involved in social justice and political movements. >> it's an interesting time in corp corporate america where companies are being asked to take positions in things in past years they would have tried to stay out of focussing on profits or pleasing as many people as possible. >> yeah, that's exactly right. the activists pushing against some of the bills realize if you are going to make change, you have to hurt lawmakers in their pocketbook and community by having the tax revenue and the economic activity that would have come from a big event like an all-star game having that taken out of georgia and now some lawmakers are starting to respond. so a number of these corporations, sports leagues are feeling the pressure from their
constituents, from their fan bases and activists potentially telling them they have to take a stand especially when it comes to specific issues of civil rights, racial justice, economic rights for minorities and can't be silent anymore and the killing of george floyd sparked even more of these corporations to take a stand and really seems like there is no turning back at this boinltpoint because activi realized this is a way to make change because a lot of lawmakers haven't listened for several years to cries but realize if they're able to talk to corporations and get them to make change then you can see sports leagues and some of these lawmakers have to respond as a result. >> john, there are still a number of states considering new voting laws. how likely do you think it is that this action by major league baseball and others, coke, delta and others will lead to other states backing off what democrats consider restrictive measures? >> i think the democrats will
certainly use it. progressives will use it and be careful where you go. this is wrong but number two consider the consequences. look, timing is everything in politics. that's a cliche but true. we're having this conversation as the derek chauvin trial plays out, the killing of george floyd that brought a lot of this to the bubbling point if you will festering a long time but brought the water to a boiling point. there will be people who say think twice or three times. anderson, also the flip side of that. a lot of republicans ex- and conservatives are on this cancel culture. you mentioned abbott deciding forget it, i won't throw out the first pitch so some will take advantage of the controversy to raise the quote unquote kcancel culture issues. >> corporate america enjoyed a close relationship for a long time, you have someone lieke mitch mcconnell lashing out against corporations taking a stand against these voting laws. >> yeah, this is the out growth
of former president trump's presidency. he said this he was going to go against the elites in the corporations even though he ended up giving them one of the biggest tax cuts in history but he did campaign against them and said he was for the working person and he was going to fight for the working man and woman against the corporations and elites and now you see other republicans including mitch mcconnell and marco rubio take that form of populism and try to use it to attack some of these corporations which have been their political constituency for decades and decades. you're seeing a shift in the atmosphere and not clear where they go next if they align more with democrats to raise taxes or stick with conservatives who want to protect them from progressive policies when it comes to economics but when it comes to social issues, it seems like the corporations are much more aligned with the left wing and progressive causes when it comes to social justice, racial justice and equality. it really is sort of a political hot potato with some of these corporations trying to decide
where they will land. >> yeah, john, one of the other things that the minority leader mcconnell said in his broadside against corporations objectives to the georgia law, he said quote a host of powerful people and institutions think they stand to benefit from parroting this big lie. it interesting he is co-opting the phrase the big lie which is normally used for the really big lie, which is the president trump's big lie about the election. >> mitch mcconnell whether you like him or not is calculating. he does not just choose his words willy-nilly he uses that on purpose to say because democrats and the media used the term big lie because he did perpetrate a big lie and led to an insurrection in the capitol. look, mitch mcconnell has a point. republicans have a point some democrats have exaggerated the point of the georgia law and the president of the united states mr. biden got some details wrong but bill clinton said if you see a turtle on a fence post that didn't get there by accident, we're not having this
conversation by accident. most of these laws in the states do restrict voting rights and republicans are pushing them. there have been some exaggeration and hype about the georgia law but these conversations in more than 40 states are real. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. has the identity of q, the person behind the extremists ideology qanon attracted followers with the bizarre and false conspiracy theories has q actually been discovered? up next, i'll talk with the film maker behind a fascinating documentary examining qanon why he's convinced he solved the puzzle. vo: calling all builders, all welders, and roofers. engineers and electricians. calling all brick masons and boiler makers. steel workers and steam fitters your country is calling you
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over the weekend hbo finished airing a documentary series called into the storm looking into the origins and followers of qanon. the leader of the bizarre online group is called simply q, and his identity has long been a secret, but film maker colin, the man behind the documentary seems convinced he solved the mystery. his evidence is this clip that aired during the series finally last night this which he interviewed the long-time admini administrator. >> ron hadn't just been participating in q research. it sounded like he was leading it. >> yeah, so thinking back on it,
like, it's basically three years of intelligence training. teaching how to do intelligence work. i was basically what i was doing before but never as q. >> see, that smile? ron had slipped up. he knew it and i knew it and after three tireless years of cat and mouse, well. [ laughter ] >> never as cute, i promise. i am not cute. never was. >> colin hoback joins me now. so great to meet you. i was fascinated by your documentary. your access is incredible how much time and how deep you got into this.
for those who may be confused why that moment was so shocking, can you layout briefly who this guy ron watkins is and what his role in the qanon origin story is and why that revelation from him was important? >> sure, yeah, the person i'm talking to is ron watkins, aka code a monkey. he is somebody who has been named in the q, drops qanons, drops so there is a lot of lure around this character in the world of qanon. he is also the admin of the site where q posts. so, you know, i had spent years playing cat and mouse with this character. you know, i thought it was possible that he would know more about q than anyone else because q posts on his site. and i had always been waiting for that moment where ron slips up and the first time it happened was a few months ago,
and i think it happened as a result of the super optimism where he got away with it for so long, he wasn't really watching his words. you can see in the clip that you just played, he actually breaks into a smile before i do because he realized, i think, what had just happened and i think you can hear him muttering under his breath and i remember when ron said that, i looked over afterwards i looked over at my camera person like he just admitted he's q. for me, it was just a mind blowing moment. >> that's also a moment you pray that the camera person is actually rolling, that there is like record was on and that everything actually has been saved. you said in the clip you'd been talking to watkins and his dad jim for years. you both start laughing. what was going through your
mind? did he say more about it later? did he -- he clearly -- he continues to deny he was q, right? >> well, he'll always deny that he's q because i think he would be concerned about any potential ramifications that come with it but i also think that deep down he has -- he kind of wants the credit. >> yeah. >> and i saw this at various moments along the way or i think he would give me nudges and hint he's behind it but can't say he's behind it. >>ist it's remarkable when there are all these people out there for one reason or another or for whatever in their lives has brought them to go down this rabbit hole, you know, believe that q is early on that he was a member of the trump administration, that he was a high level intelligence official with a special magical q clearance that, you know, he had
access to and all the things that q predicted would happen just never happened and was continually proven wrong and yet, these people still continue to believe and just came up with new explanations for why everything he said was wrong. the fact that it might be this guy, you know, of course it's like somebody like this and not, you know, some intelligence official somewhere. >> well, i mean, ron watkins has all of it. he's interested in quote unquote red peeling the masses, getting his world view out to people and doesn't like the main stream media and trying to build an audience. to some extent he and his father are interested in taking over the world. so, you know, it checks out but i would say that -- you see this in the story that even though
ron is i believe the lynch pin in this, there is this broader threaten work and over time as q increased in power you see figures like general flynn and another general seeding intel with these people who sort of preach the word of q on youtube and make sense of it to followers and you see that this group of ex military actors are leveraging q and hijacking the narrative for their own ends. >> so many of them are profiting off of it selling merchandise and subscriptions and trying to gain viewers like every teen influencer, you know, on tiktok and everywhere else. it's extraordinary. fascinating documentary. i hope a lot of people watch it. it's really great. thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up next, what life is like when post covid normal life is inches and miles away. we'll take you where vaccinations are surging but so
nationwide. more than 3 million doses a day for four days now. however, in a number of states, case counts are spiking as well. infectious disease blame the spread of covid variants. one strain has been detected in all 50 states. some experts but not all believe there may be worse to come. >> just look at states like michigan and mun min. where you have high levels of vaccination relative to the rest of the country, and already, you're seeing the surge. while vaccination is important, it is obviously a critical part of our long-term game plan, we're not going to have enough vaccine at the way we're going into the arms of enough americans over the course of the next six to ten weeks with this surge that we're going to stop it. it's just simply not going to happen. >> miguel marquez has a closer look at michigan and what may be the front line in the battle against covid. >> how are you?
>> fred was on his way to get vaccinated. >> i was going there, and i didn't feel right. >> he got a covid-19 test instead. it was positive. >> you were right at the finish line. >> there was a lot of -- there was a lot of emotional baggage that went with that. >> he says he got it from his 19-year-old son, andy, his wife betsy was fully vaccinated with the moderna vaccine. she, too, got covid-19 with only minor symptoms. the virus hammered fred. 54 years old and no underlying conditions. >> i felt like i went ten rounds with mike tyson. i was absolutely physically exhausted. i mean, i felt like i had been beat up. i had felt like i had been in a car accident. i mean, it was crazy. >> tina thinks her son's soccer club brought the coronavirus
into her home. >> even though we're all masked up, we're on the sidelines, everyone is yelling. >> her boys levi and jesse got it with no symptoms. her husband jason got a bad case. hers was worse. >> they said, yeah, you have pneumonia. caused from covid, so we're going to admit you. and here i am. >> how supplied are you to be in this bed? >> very shocked. >> the 44-year-old mother of two with no underlying conditions. outdoorsy, active, never sick, adhered to coronavirus guidelines, never thought she would get covid or that it would hit her this hard. >> it's weird. it's almost like you feel like you're suffocating a little bit. i don't know. it's hard to explain because you get really light headed and you're like, woo, clammy. >> two cases of thousands in the wolverine state, now in its third coronavirus surge. >> we're not back to where we
were in november and december, but the rate of increase seems more drastic than it did back then. >> at lancing's sparrow health system, covid-19 admissions have risen 600% in a month. >> we're trying to see where we can pull extra staff from. >> the hospital had disbanded its covid incident command center with cases piling up, they have reestablished it. >> in december, we had a high of close to 150 patients. right now, we have 95. and at the rate it's going if it doesn't abate, we'll be at 150 patients in 15 days. >> 15 days? >> yes. you know where the top of the curve is? >> we don't know. >> the doctor specializes in caring with patients with covid at part of the largest health care system in michigan. covid tests of some patientsen sent for dna analysis indicate a worrying sign. sharp increase in the new more contagious, possibly more lethal b-117 variant. >> right now, the regular covid
test we do, that's still showing covid/no covid, but we sent a lot out to the state and we're seeing something like 40% of our patients b-117. >> as older michiganders and those with underlying conditions get vaccinated, hospitalizations for them have plummeted. now the hospitalized typically younger and healthier. >> each surge has brought different challenges. when we address them, we felt strong we had this disease under attack, but then we get thrown a curveball. >> for health care workers, an exhausting year getting longer. >> the first day i came in and saw that our unit was full of covid patients again, it was really difficult. i had tears in my eyes. >> 22 years a registered nurse. >> yes. >> how hard has the last year been? >> harder. >> why? >> because people are dying. i'm sorry. >> why is this so hard to talk
about? >> because i just saw it yesterday. >> what did you see? >> i had a patient pass away. >> the weight of so much sickness and death, that burden getting only heavier. >> it is so difficult to speak to those health care professionals who have been out there day after day for the last year. those two last nurses you heard from, they both got covid during the last year. so not only is the stress physical and mental, but it's to their health as well. many nurses we spoke to also got coronavirus. that last nurse you heard from, she said she wants a normal day. she wants to come in and work with somebody who is getting over gallbladder surgery. anderson. >> miguel marquez, appreciate it. >> up next, the latest attempt by matt gaetz to clear his name about the allegations involving sex trafficking.
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republican congressman matt gaetz is trying to put out more fires and save his career, this time with an editorial defending himself against allegations of sex trafficking and prostitution. he writes in the washington examiner, quote, first, i have never, ever paid for sex, and second, i as an adult man have not slept with a 17-year-old. he also writes, quote, and no, i am absolutely not resigning. later he writes this, my personal life is and always has
been conducted on my own time and my own dime. sources tell cnn investigators are pursuing allegations that gaetz may have used cash and drugs in his dealings with young women. also they have looked at whether any flederal campaign money was involved in paying for travel and expenses. this comes on the same day gaetz added a new attorney to his case who has sig isn't experience in white collar cases. >> good to see you. hope you had a good easter. we have a key player in the gaetz situation tonight so people are going to want to see that. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "primetime." whether you celebrated easter or not, may this season of renewal and rebirth fuel this seizeasonr all of us. i was supposed to be off, but we were able to bring you something and it was critical to a big story, in fact, both big stories in the news tonight, there george floyd murder trial and