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watch the defense put george floyd on trial instead of the former police officer. i'm pamela brown in washington. welcome to our viewers in the united states and pb add the world. you are live in the cnn "newsroom" on this easter sunday. as the race continues between lethal covid variants and life-saving vaccines, and the tsa screened more than 1.5 million people, and contrast those stats with what is going on in michigan right now. that state is now seeing its highest case count since december. some experts worry it's the leading edge of a fourth surge for the u.s. cnn's natasha chen is in atlanta where the holiday celebrations
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may prove to be a mixed blessing. >> reporter: there did seem to be a ring of more optimism compared to a year ago when a lot of churches were forced to go online for easter, and this church offering indoor socially distanced services with advanced reservations. people do feel like they are turning a corner with many people vaccinated, and they saw 40% of the people they would get during the prepandemic easter services. >> there are more signs of hope, and a rezer recollection of life compared to a year ago. >> we share the sentiments of pope francis that said getting vaccinated is a moral obligation, one that can save your life and the lives of others. >> the southwest now averaging
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more more than 3 million covid vaccines, even with the disguarding of the johnson & johnson doses. it can be made up in a few weeks. the federal government now directed johnson & johnson to takeover the manufacturing of its vaccine at the baltimore facility where the contamination occurred. some places, like mississippi are seeing what appears to be widespread vaccine hesitancy. >> we need to make sure that we educate our people and let them know that this vaccine is safe, that it's -- while it's under an emergency use authorization it has gone through clinical trials with literally tens of thousands of individuals who have done that, and it's been pieer reviewed. >> meanwhile on saturday ph
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michigan reported its highest -- >> we are in a category 5 hurric hurricane status. in terms of the united states, we're just at the beginning of the surge. we have not even really begun to see it yet. >> the cdc has not said if the b one one variant is the most dangerous strain. >> the vaccine is aeeliciting. >> 18% of the u.s. population is fully vaccinated. >> over a year -- >> including george, who travelled from buffalo, new york, to be with family in marietta for his first in-person
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church service since the pandemic began. >> we are headed in the right way. >> tim and joey are vaccinated, too. >> it's wonderful to be here and it's wonderful to see people we have not seen in almost a year, and we hope to keep connected to them. >> celebrating the spirit of renewal while acknowledging the challenges that are still here. >> in the coming back, we don't want to lesson the concern for the safety of our people. so we continue to keep our safety protocols. i still am concerned with the safety of the youngest ones through the most elderly. >> the father's sentiments were echoed by pope francis, and he also urged the international community to commit to overcoming the delay in vaccine distribution and to facilitate
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their distribution, especially to the poorest communities. >> natasha chen reporting for us, and thank you so much. with me is professor and dean of tropical medicine, and as always, doctor, thank you for joining us on this holiday sunday. the big question today, as people are gathering with loved ones to celebrate the holiday, what is the state of play in the pandemic, do the variants or vaccines have the upper hand right now in the u.s.? >> you just asked the most important question, and that's the big question and i think it will vary on which part of the country you are in. michigan looks off in terms of the number of new cases and almost to the same level we saw in january, and also a lot of young people now are going into the hospital since we vaccinated
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so many older individuals, and now we are seeing young adults in the hospital in minnesota and michigan, and the top part of the country looks really bad and it's extending across the border into ontario, and i think a lot of that is due to the b.1.1 variant. i know it causes higher severity of illnesses. florida, b.1.1.7 variants, it's dominant there and in texas and we could see a big fourth wave and we are seeing that in the upper midwest. >> that's not what any of us want to hear, that there could be another wave, but given where we are with the vaccinations and given how much of the population has been vaccinated, what will the fourth wave look like in
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comparison to the past waves we have been part of? >> it really depends on how -- if we can maintain the rate of vaccinations, and remember, only about one-third of the country still received a single dose. on the other side of this as we get into may and june, we will be close to a high percentage of the country vaccinated, and things will be better. the big unknown is how many lives will be lost in the month of april and in the beginning part of may, while we're still trying to get there. not only that, seeing a lot of young people acquiring covid, about 30% of people with covid-19, develop a degree of brain fog or depression, so there's lot of injury there as well, and we are working hard with the governors to try and keep those mask mandates in place and be cautious, and we
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are talking about for another four to six weeks and tphhen we will be on the other side of it. >> we made it this far, right? what is another four to six weeks? people are ready to get back to normal, and the weather is nicer and the vaccines are being distributed and when you talk about michigan and you look at what is happening there and you look at the past and what has happened with covid, are you concerned it's just going to spread to different states in the country? as you know, covid knows no bounds. >> yeah, and the other thing about this, pam, we have to think about the b.1.1.7 variant, it's not like anything we have seen in terms of affecting young people, and the good news, all the vaccines seem to work just as well against the variant as the original lineages, so that's really good news.
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i have a lot of confidence we will be in a really good place by the summer, but if you are not vaccinated you have to behave as though you are highly vulnerable to the virus. this is not a time to get sick. >> just for perspective, for people who have been vaccinated or plan to, what is the latest on those getting a booster shot or the vaccine, even though it's effective against the current variants, that does not guarantee it will be effective towards the other variants, right? >> i think all of the vaccines work well against the b.1.1.7 variant, but don't be surprised if next year you are asked to get a booster, and you might get a third dose if you have had the moderna or pfizer, and with that booster, one, it will increase
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your neutralizing antibodies in case some of the other variants from south africa and brazil come into the country in a big way, and they are here a little bit, and the other thing that will happen, the boosters will be reconfigured a bit, they will be made more specific for the other variants of concern we are expecting later on from south africa and brazil, and we are doing the same thing with our vaccine. then what happens? is this something we will have to do every year? the answer is, i don't know. i personally don't think so once you get the third dose, that could be it for a while, and the reason i think that is we're seeing convergence to similar types of variants. once you get that third dose from the pfizer, the second dose of ja&j, that could be it.
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we'll see. >> cornell is now saying it will require all fall semester students to be vaccinated, and the first college to do this was rutgers, and we know kindergarten classes are required to be vaccinated against tmeasles, and that's on thing, but can you expect college students to have vaccinations? >> yeah, there's a high risk for getting a deadly disease, mike a ma gin jaw cockle. i am guessing most universities will head in that direction assuming the vaccines are available, as we are expecting. >> doctor, thank you so much for coming on and sharing all of
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your wisdom with us. >> thanks so much, pam. a year ago a front line medical worker in new orleans was beginning the fight of his life as covid-19 relentlessly attacked his body. just days ago he took his first steps since then. coming up, peter willard joins me with his remarkable story of survival. but first to the united states capitol, colorful this weekend from not only a burst of spring flowers but flowers left as tributes to the u.s. capitol police officer that lost his life on friday. i will bring in our law enforcement analysts, charles ramsey, and he's philadelphia's former police commissioner. the officer that died on friday is the second capitol police officer to lose his life in the line of duty this year, and two others have died from suicide this year as well after the
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riots, so as a former police commissioner, how worried are you about morale on the force right now? >> i am very worried about it. they have had a tough time just this year. i was the police chief in d.c. in 1998 when gibson and chestnut were murdered inside the capitol, shot to death. they had not had a death, a line of duty death that i am aware of until sicknick, and so they have gone a long period of time without having to experience that kind of tragedy, and unfortunately, i have experience in that area when i took over philadelphia in 2008, we had five officers killed in the line of duty within a nine-month period of time. three of them shot to death and two responding to priority calls. it has a tremendous impact on the men and women of your department. but they still have to get out there and go to work every day. there's no time really to grieve.
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that's part of the problem. they will need professional help, real counseling in order to get through this period of time. >> yeah, i mean, they're going back to the capitol where they have seen their colleagues killed in the line of duty, and this is all happening as the capitol police force has seen a real problem, their numbers are down, retention is down. >> right. >> these are the exact words of the chairman of the capitol police union. he says we are struggling to meet existing mission requirements even with the officers working massive amounts of forced overtime. i have had many young officers confide in me they are actively looking in other agencies and departments right now. how can this police force get its numbers back up and keep them up without compromising security? >> i want to mention, too, working in large amounts of over time is stressful in and of itself, and that adds to the stress is that already there. my understand something there
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are 230 odd officers short, and it would take time to replace that number of people because you have to account for attrition at the same time you are hiring, so they will have to have a very aggressive hiring program in order to be able to make up that deficit. it could take a year, year and a half, two years for them to utilize the increase in numbers. i was listening to cnn yesterday, juliette said something that i thought made sense, and that is other federal law enforcement agencies, like the park police, border patrol and the like, could actually detail people to the capitol police to make up for some of the deficit temporarily. that makes sense to me. it would take time for them to be able to hire enough people to make up for the deficit, and according to the information, they have got to have some steps
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in between in order to beef up the force and take some of the pressure off the men and women of the department. >> all right, chief charles ramsey, thank you very much. happy easter to you. we appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. we have a packed evening of news for you tonight, including week two of testimony in the trial of the ex-cop accused of killing george floyd. >> and then the pope's easter message in lockdown italy. >> and then we'll talk about the incredible recovery of one man. before all that, republican congressman, matt gaetz under fire politically and legally, and we're following the controversy and we will talk to him when we come back. stay with us. or disrupt the status quo. t-mobile for business uses unconventional thinking
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gaetz of florida is having quite a week, increasingly isolated as scandals continue to pileup around him. marshall cohen is on top of this. tell us about the investigation matt gaetz is up against. >> good evening. the pro trump fire brand is under investigation for possible prosecution and underaged sex trafficking. it all started from an investigation into another politician in from florida, joel greensburg, and he's a friend of gaetz and the former tax collect inner in seminal county. some of these women allegedly received cash payments from gaetz and greensburg as cording to the times that reviewed seats
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from apple cash. they are looking to see if the payments may have illegally come from the congressman's federal campaign accounts. gaetz' friend greensburg was charged with sex trafficking of a minor and more than two dozen other alleged crimes and he plead not guilty. here's matt gaetz' side of the story. his office said he never paid for sex and he refutes all of the allegations completely. he said he has paid for flights and hotels for women of age he was dating but says that was totally above board. >> we are hearing lawmakers were subjected to inappropriate photos taken by gaetz. tell us about that? >> that's right. it is inappropriate. multiple sources says there's photos and videos of nude women
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that he claimed to have slept with, and gaetz showed the images on the house floor, and another source said gaetz saw it as a point of pride. some democrats have called on the house ethics committee to allege its own inquiry, and some of the more liberal members say they believe it's workplace harassment, basically. most republicans, though, his colleagues, they have been quiet, really only a handful have come out to defend him. most of them have really not said all that much, pamela. >> yeah, but the silence from the majority of his republican colleagues have been pretty deafening. thank you so much. the second week of compelling testimony at derek chauvin's murder trial starts tomorrow. the defense says he was just doing what he was trained to do. joey jackson joins us next with
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right... ( horn blaring ) beginning tomorrow jurors will hear from more witnesses in the trial of derek chauvin. he's the former minneapolis police officer charged in the murder of george floyd. prosecutors claim chauvin lite literally squeezed the life out of floyd, and they brought forth emotionally-charged testimony. one of the most damning moments came from the final witness of
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the first week, the most senior member of the minneapolis police force. >> pulling him down to the ground face down, and putting your knee on the neck for that amount of time -- amount of time is just uncalled for. >> meanwhile the defense argues, floyd's pre-existing health conditions and drug use are to blame for his death and chauvin acted by the book. >> you will learn that derek chauvin did exactly what he had been trained to do over the course of his 19 year career. the use of force is not attractive, but it is a necessary component of policing. >> cnn legal analyst, joey jackson joins me now. joey, lovely to see you. let's talk about this. the prosecution will question the minneapolis police chief
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this week, and how explosive is it for the police chief to testify against one of his own officers. ? >> it's compelling. we have already seen two officers testify, and one was a sergeant for 27 years and he gave the indication that this just should not have happened, that there was a time when there was control gained by chauvin of floyd and he should have stopped at that point, and that was lieutenant zimmerman, he indicated you cannot do this. so you follow it up, right, to your question with the chief himself saying not only can't you do this, but i fired him the next day and it really spells a lot of trouble for the defense. the defense is trying to paint this as a force that was appropriate, and it was necessary, and this is what you do, this is how it looks. but it just doesn't really pass the reasonableness test, right? if you examine it, the defense is making the argument, he, george floyd, could have come
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back out of unconsciousness and attack him, but did it really appear he could have done that being that he was motionless? on balance based on what we have seen so far it's an uphill battle? >> yeah, you heard that it was part of his training and that's up against two officers that testified already and the police chief that will testify tomorrow. how does a defense counter these officers saying no, he was on his neck for too long. this was not part of our training? >> yeah, pamela, with great difficulty. not only will we hear from the chief but we will hear there after from expert witnesses from the prosecution that this should not have occurred. the defense so far has been raising the issues. the first issue was there was concern for -- by the police, excuse me, with the crowd. the problem with that is you have body cam evidence from the police and there's no indication on those body cams they were
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concerned at all. the only interaction with the crowd is to tell them to step back on the sidewalk as the sidewalk pleaded and yelled, can we help. then you heard from minors in the crowd, one nine years old saying i felt mad and sad because he was restricting the breathing, so i think that argument falls hollow and this argument that he was going to somehow -- george floyd was going to slip back into consciousness and attack, i think it's hollow because you have an obligation, if you are an officer, right, to reassess. the initial force might be appropriate, and as much as you want to gain control but there is a point in time that you need to determine whether or not you want to re-evaluate, and as time goes on reae evaluate. so they are looking to make that
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case. >> looks like the prosecution is trying to contrast the total felt by the witnesses with the relative coldness and lack of emotion chauvin displayed in the footage? >> at the end of the day the judge will instruct the jury you are not to base this case on emotion but the witnesses and what comes out of the witnesses' mouths on the stand, and as it relates to the emotion you saw the girl friend testifying, and there is the emergency tech a bystander at the scene, saying let me help, i'll take his pulse, and when the girlfriend testified, she not only provided emotion but explained what the defense is trying to savage is
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the character of george floyd, he became addicted to the pain medication because of an injury, it was an opioid, and how many people cannot relate to that, right? the defense will have you believe he's a strung out person and a bad guy and a drug user, not so he got addicted and the girlfriend in all of her emotion laid that out clearly. >> do you think there's enough for a guilty verdict? >> there's a long way to go, but i have to tell you, pam, briefly, on all accounts it looks like it's problematic. when you look at the first count you have to established second-degree murder, and it's called felony murder, right, and there was an underlying assault and it led to death, and if you have your knee on somebody's death, it relates to count two, and third degree murder, there's testimony when you lay somebody
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face down and it's chest down you have to get them up because you are restricting their breathing so you lay them on the side, and if you put them there for nine minutes, that's depravity, and that gets you to the third degree. let's say the jury doesn't buy the assault and they don't buy the fact of the depraved hearts, and we have heard testimony to the department and the rules and you can't do that, and you are trained once a year you're not, and he's a 19-year veteran. you can establish the manslaughter in the second degree. a long way to go, right? but to this point the evidence has been compelling to guilt on anyone of the counts that we are talking about. >> all right, joey jackson, we will leave it there. thanks so much. >> always, thanks, pam. we'll have more on the trial at the top of the hour. i will speak to the attorney for george floyd's family about the emotional first week of testimony. a year ago this front line
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with allstate, drivers who switched saved over $700. saving is easy when you're in good hands. allstate click or call to switch today. a year ago health care worker peter willard was fighting for his life. he contracted covid last march while working in the hospital in louisiana. after months of struggling to survive peter developed such severe nerve damage he lost his ability to walk, but he never gave up. a year later the 6'4" peter willard finally stood tall and even learned to walk again. i spoke to peter and his wife, patricia, earlier about his
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incredible recovery. >> day one he had high fever. it never went away. i tried giving him tylenol every six hours, every four hours, trying to give him fluids to take, to keep hydrated. nothing helped. it was just devastating. it was just devastating. it was just a lot constantly. anytime he had to go to the restroom i had to go with him and he had to hold on to me. he was constantly sleeping every day. >> did you think you were going to lose him? >> oh, yes, yes. i was terrified. he did not want to go to the hospital. he was just watching the news, and all we heard was people dying at the, and i think he was
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more afraid to go to the hospital than anything, and it was just hard. i did a lot of praying. the family helped out a lot. >> i had to bring him to the er, and that's when they first intebaited him. once he was intebaited, he could not walk. >> finally after a year, peter, you started walking again. what was that like for you? >> it was wonderful. it was really -- it was a step above what i expected.
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i worried about a lot of things that went on during the time that i was in the hospital from different people, that succumbed to covid-19. for me to get up and walk again after so much time, i was thankful for that. >> what was that like for you, patricia, to see your husband walk again after a year? >> it's a blessing. it's a blessing. god answered our prayers. we just wanted him to live. we just wanted him to live no matter what the outcome would have been, we just wanted him to live. >> and live he did, and now he's walking again. what a remarkable story thanks to peter and patricia both for speaking with me earlier, and we wish you nothing but the rest in
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account, you'll want to hear this. tonight, the personal data of more than 500 million facebook users worldwide has been leaked online. it includes the personal information of facebook founder and ceo mark zuckerberg. cnn's donie on sullivan has the latest. >> hackers apparently back in 2019 were able to exploit a flaw in facebook's systems where they were able to match phone numbers of apparently hundreds of millions of facebook users with their facebook accounts. that resulted as someone has posted on a hacking forum the details of 500 million, half a billion facebook accounts, phone numbers, email addresses, people's addresses, a treasure trove for cyber criminals who might want to engage in identity theft. we see 32 million accounts in the u.s., 11 million in the uk,
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28 million in saudi arabia and hundreds of millions more around the world. facebook says it has fixed that flaw, that they said they fixed the flaw back in 2019. obviously this data is still out there. we asked the company if they are going to tell users, if they are going to tell people who have been affected by this that their information is out there. they said no comment at the moment. one thing i should also mention as we were speaking to a cybersecurity expert who now has access to this data. he was able to quickly pull up the details of two of our cnn colleagues. so a lot of people impacted by this. pam? >> certainly. all right, donie, thank you so much for bringing us the latest there. well, republicans have been loudly voicing their concerns about government spending so far under president biden, especially his infrastructure plan. >> infrastructure is a core function of government. it is something that the federal government, the state government, and local government should spend more of our
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resources on, but we don't have to hike taxes by $2 trillion to do it. >> well, how do you pay for it then? >> well, i think you pay for it in a number of different ways. one way you pay for it is by seeing significant improved economic growth. we saw that throughout the trump administration because the policies were pro-business. they were pro-growth, and revenues improved. now, unfortunately during those four years like the four years before that, they did not in washington get control of spending. they feel as if the debt doesn't matter. >> well, now granted $2 trillion is no small chunk of change. we will be scrutinizing this plan later in this show. but those loud republican voices you hear now, they weren't really quiet about that during the four years donald trump was president. trump vowed to eliminate the national debt when he was campaigning in 2016. but, for the record, the u.s. actually added about 7 trillion in debt during his four years in
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the white house, including the $2 trillion tax cut in 2017, the most significant tax reform in 30 years, and it proved by every republican senator even the budget hawks. deficits were actually growing while the economy was booming under trump, which isn't really a good thing. and back in july of 2019 cnn's senior political analyst and anchor john avlon apparently looked into his crystal ball. he wrote this. that is very bad news for those of us who will be left to clean up the mess after donald trump has left d.c. because there is no way the democrats are ever going to fall for the inevitable lucy and the football moment that will come when conservatives say it is time to reign in spending. so here we are, lucy's teeing up for charlie, the fiscal conscience of republican lawmakers and elected officials has magically re-emerged under a democratic president. back in february as the stimulus bill was cooking, there was at
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least one republican in congress who acknowledged the optics of his party's pearl-clutching over the deficit. >> during the time when the economy was booming and we had a republican president and house and senate, we kept on spending almost a trillion dollars a year in deficit spending every year, adding to the national debt. almost a trillion a year. so now we say this is outrageous, you're adding to the debt. they say, hey, where were you when you were in charge, you did the same thing. it does show you that you have to be somewhat consistent. >> consistency and argument, something that is slightly foreign to politics as we know it in washington. well, a virtually empty st. peter's square as the pandemic forces italy into another lockdown. we're going to take you there, up next.
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easter sunday at the vatican, but take a look at this. a virtually empty st. peters square. italy is in lockdown for three days italians are being encouraged to stay at home. the vatican is also complying with covid regulations so pope francis said easter mass inside st. peter's basilica with only about 200 guests. just after the mass, the pope gave his address to the city and to the world. here's some of what he had to say. [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: the pandemic is still spreading, while the social and economic crisis remains severe, especially for the poor. nonetheless, and this is scandalous, armed conflicts have not ended, and military arsenals are being strengthened. >> pope francis mentioning in particular the conflicts in
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myanmar, in the ukraine, in syria, and iraq. he mentioned the difficulties in lebanon, and the scandalous silence, he said, about the situation in yemen. pope francis also spoke about an issue close to his heart that is vaccinations for the poor, not only for poor countries to have access to vaccines but also for people in richer countries to not be forgotten. of course, the pope himself offered to vaccinate 1,200 of the homeless and poor here around the vatican in the week leading up to easter. cnn, rome. well, the stage is set for a second week of compelling and potentially damning testimony in the derek chauvin trial. the jury is being asked to decide if the ex-cop dishonored his badge or was just following his training when george floyd died in his custody. plus, more pandemic-era travel records are being broken as easter travel surges. and the president's son


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