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approached. eyenesses said two women were arrested minutes after the cnn team left, and the same thing occurred later in the day at a second market. a total of 11 people detained for talking to reporters. thankfully the cnn team found out and pressed authorities for information. the military has instructed local forces to release the residents. this episode is a window into the incredible challenges of reporting in conflict zones. a reminder that freedoms, even the basic freedom to speak must be defended. thanks for joining us, we'll have more "reliable sources" right back here next week. ♪ a bridge too far? president biden offers an ambitious proposal to upgrade the nation's roads, bridges and more. >> we have to get it done. >> as republicans fight the price tag and tax increases. some democrats fight for more.
can biden get it done? i will speak with senator granholm and sanders next. impending doom? rising covid cases threaten to wipe away progress as governors say vaccine numbers make it safe enough to open up. >> we are in a much better spot than we were but will enough skeptical republicans roll up their sleeves? mississippi governor tate reeves joins me. traumatized witness testimony, as the nation relives george floyd's death. we'll reflect on the death of derek chauvin with minnesota congresswoman ilhan omar ahead. >> hello, i'm jake tapper in washington, where the state of our union is un-ironically engaged in infrastructure week. happy easter morning to those who celebrate. let's hope this is one of the last holidays where families are celebrating separately because of covid.
one by one americans are receiving the vaccine with 4 million shots administered in just 24 hours. that good news, unfortunately, tempered by warnings from the biden administration that cases are, indeed, rising again and an exhausted nation may be headed for another spike. but as more states open up and the economy continues to rebound, president biden is taking on a new challenge as well, a massive infrastructure proposal to fix america's crumbling roads and bridges shift to greener energy and ultimately to reshape the american economy to the tune of $2.3 trillion, trillion dollars, in addition to traditional infrastructure projects, roads, bridges, waterways, biden's plan includes boosting manufacturing of electronic vehicles, expanding tlerm care solutions and overhauling aging schools. biden would pay for the bill, which he hopes would receive bipartisan support in congress by hiking the corporate tax rate
to 28% and raising other corporate taxes. joining us to discuss the proposal, energy secretary jan fer granholm. happy easter to you. this bill includes a lot that is not tra terribly considered infrastructure. there is $400 billion for in-home care for elderly americans and americans with disabilities. another $213 billion for affordable housing. it spends more on electric vehicles than on roads and bridges. now, you know that republicans are going to have concerns about all of this. if president biden wants to make this bipartisan, why not focus this bill on what everyone can support? roads, bridges, airports, rural broadband? >> well, it is focused on all of those things. i mean, republicans and democrats historically have wanted to see infrastructure spending on broadband, which
this bill includes, wanted to see infrastructure spending on water and removing lead from water systems, which this bill includes. but this is the americans jobs act. it's focused on creating good sustaining jobs in a whole array of sectors that will help us win the future. it's the biggest investment in america since fdr, since the new deal. it's and especially -- i look at this from being a former governor of a manufacturing state, jake. the investments in the supply chain for manufacturing, you know that for decades now, we have watched our manufacturing jobs leave. we're at a 70-year low. this bill says we're going to make stuff in america. we're going to make the means to our own energy security. i mean, it is an amazing statement that finally we're going to invest in america instead of watching all of these other countries beat us to the punch. >> right. but in terms of priorities.
more on electric vehicles than on roads and bridges? >> well, the need to make sure that we have an electrified transportation system to reduce climate change is highly supported and very necessary. so what does that mean? i mean, it means that we have to build the batteries for those electric vehicles. it gets back to manufacturing. part of that investment is making sure that we can build the batteries in the u.s. for electrifying transportation and energy storage instead of getting those batteries from our economic competitors. you know, china has had -- they came out with the most recent five-year plan, and they have a plan to corner the market on the supply chain for batteries. okay. we can just sit there and watch that happen. >> right. >> or we can decide we want to to build that stuff here. that's a part of the investment infrastructure.
>> i guess my question is the coronavirus relief package passed the house and senate with zero republican votes. ultimately, looking at this bill, i am wondering if that would be okay with you and president biden again to have a bill pass with zero republican votes. >> well, obviously, the pressure is to have this done in a bipartisan way. 80% of america supports investing -- over 80% supports infrastructure. americans, republicans, independents. so the president is very conservatively reaching out to republicans to say, come to the table. if you don't like a component of it. tell us how you would do it? what do you want to see in this bill? honestly, jake, the vast majority of this bill includes things that republicans are supporting, like roads and bridges spending, like broadband, like water, like manufacturing supply chains. these are all things that republicans have actually
introduced bills on. so come to the table. we want to make it bipartisan. you know, ultimately, if that doesn't happen, he is elected to do the job to win the future for america, to invest in our people. we hope republicans can join their constituents across the country ultimately supporting this effort. >> ultimately, if you don't get republican support, you are willing to pass this using reconciliation rules, meaning only 50% democratic votes in the senate and vice president harris casting the tie-breaking vote, you're willing to do that? >> well, you know, as he has said, he was sent to the presidency to do a job for america. and if the vast majority of americans, democrats and republicans, across the country support spending on our country and not allowing us to lose the race globally, then he's going to do that.
however, his sincere preference, his open hand is to republicans to come to the table and say, if you don't like this, how would you pay for this? if you don't like this, what would you include? so much of this bill includes priorities that republicans have supported. so i hope that democrats and republicans can be on the final vote yes on this bill on this package. >> we are hearing concerns from republicans, even republicans who want and like roads and bridges about the tax increases being proposed to pay for this package. the corporate tax rate, the proposal is to raise it from 21% to 28%. the u.s. chamber of commerce called that dangerously misguided. the "wall street journal" editorial board wrote, quote, the great plilt kay fakery here is that corporate taxes merely fall on ceos and rich shareholders. mr. biden's corporate tax increases will hit the middle class hard -- in the value of
their 401(k)s and the size of their pay and pacts and what they pay for goods and services. there are more moderate democrats who are worried raising these taxes will hinder economic growth and ultimately hurt middle class americans. >> okay. two
points on this, jake. you recall that just a few years ago, the tax rate for corporate taxes was 35%. and when donald trump passed his corporate and tax cuts for the wealthy package, he dropped it to a point that nobody was even asking for it, which was 21%. so what joe biden is saying is let's put it to a reasonable middle. let's put us in line with other industrial nations, which is 28%. and secondly, if you don't like this, then come and tell us how you would pay for it. of the polling that's been done out there on this, more people support paying for infrastructure rather than racking up deficits than not.
and that includes republicans. people know that you can't just continue to spend without paying for it. so what joe biden wants to do is to do it in a fair way and the fact that 91 companies a couple of years ago that in the study that we were showing -- of the fortune 500 companies, 91 of them, after donald trump's tax cuts were passed, after that 91 of them still paid zero taxes because of the incentives in the tax code to move assets offshore. so that they don't get taxed. so if the tax code's not fair and so what joe biden wants to do is to say corporations should pay their fair share in the same way that a plummer and a teacher would have to pay 22% or 44% of their income, corporations should have to pay their fair share too. to invest in america. >> secretary granholm, thanks, so much for joining us today.
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that i would recommend. welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. president biden unveiled his $2.3 billion infrastructure plan. now he is asking lawmakers to weigh in. my next guest could tell us why they may pass that bill. senator sanders, thank you for joining us. happy passover to you. president biden's plan includes a proposed corporate tax rate increase that's half the increase of what you've called for. it does not include a new tax on wealth, which you also support. although it does contain
measure to bomb bat climate change, it is a fraction of the size of the green new deal. it clearly doesn't go as far as a president sanders plan would have. is this plan bold enough for you? >> i think it's a serious proposal dealing with some of the serious crises that we face. i think every american understands our infrastructure, roads, bridges, waste water plants are falling apart and we can create millions of jobs rebuilding them. i think the vast majority of the american people understand that climate changes is an existential threat to the planet. we can create millions more jobs, good wages of rebuilding and transforming our energy system away to fossil fuel to energy sufficiency and we have a major housing crisis. that's not only a half a million are homeless, there are 19 million households spending 50%
of their limited incomes on housing. all of those issues are dealt with in the president's plan. what you are going to see right now, jake, is that congress is going to take a hard look at that plan. i think that, for example, as you indicated, in terms of climate, we are probably going to put more money into that area. i think there is a lot of work that has to be done in terms of healthcare. the high cost of prescription drugs, making our colleges affordable for young people dealing with student debt. so right now i think at an unprecedented moment, the president has given us a serious proposal, a lot more work has to be done in that regard. >> so you think that things that one could argue are important but not necessarily part of an infrastructure package such as dealing with college debt, you think that that should be a part of the bill? >> well, you know, it depends on what you call infrastructure, roads and bridges and tunnels are infrastructure. i think many of us see a crisis
in human infrastructure. when a working class family can't find good quality, affordable child care, that's human infrastructure. one of the areas that i am working on right now is the need to expand medicare in order to provide dental care and hearing aids and eyeglasses for millions and millions of seniors who need these services but can't afford it. is that infrastructure? i think it is. look, jake, the truth is, in so many ways, we are behind many other countries throughout the world in providing for working families and the elderly and the children. and i think now is the time to begin addressing our physical infrastructure and our human infrastructure. i want to see that happen as soon as possible. >> that path, which is a path based very much in your principles as a progressive and as in your leadership as the chairman, is a path that you know will make it more difficult
to get republican support in the senate. you just heard secretary granholm suggest that it seems, at least my interpretation of what she said, it seems fine to her and to president biden that these reconciliation rules, they would pass with 50 democratic votes, plus vice president harris they don't need the 60. president biden is at the least giving lip service to making this bipartisan, says he wants to meet with republicans in the oval office to negotiate the bill. frankly, do you think he is wasting his time? >> we'll see. secretary granholm made the important point is that what we are proposing, the president is proposing is bipartisan. millions and millions of republicans, independents and democrats understand the crises that they face, that we face as a nation and want to go forward.
unfortunately, republicans in the congress are moving far to the right but the american people want to see done, they are ignoring what people in their own party want to be done. let me tell you something, if you are a republican mayor in this country, you understand that you need significant help in infrastructure. if you are a republican if an agricultural area, you understand what climate change is doing to your ability to produce the crops that you need. and furthermore, i think there is in this country, jake, an understanding that the level of income and wealth inequality that we have now is unsustainable and immoral. we can't continue to have two people owning more of the wealth than the other people, major corporation after major corporation not paying a nickel in federal income tax. people say isn't this an expensive proposal? it is.
the time is long overdue to demand the largest people and the largest corporations start taxes. >> so if you focus on democrats, if you think that is what is going to happen, there is still an issue of party unity that might be difficult and more difficult with infrastructure than with covid relief, progressives, such as yourself, want to go big. there are more centrist democrats, joe manchin, for example, who proved himself to be in a real position of power, worried about costs. manchin says it's incredibly important to him to make this bill bipartisan. your committee will play a key role in the process. are you confident every democrat will support this bill when it comes time to vote, including manchin? >> well, you have to talk to mr. manchin. i think at the end of the day, you have 50 democrats in the
caucus, any one of them can say, i'm not supporting this. but we all understand in this unprecedented moment in american history, when we have gone through the worst year in the modern history of this country with so many people dying and getting sick and our economy tanking, that we've got to work with the president on an agenda that speaks to the needs of the working class and middle class and low-income people who have for so many years had their needs ignored. so i am confident. look, there are difference of opinion. every one of the democrats has a different point of view. at the end of the day, i think chuck schumer is doing a good job trying to bring people together to say, you know what, the future of america is at stake. the future of america democracy is at stake. because so many people have reached the conclusion that government doesn't address their needs. working people work longer hours for low wages. we have got to speak to that
pain that's out there. if your question is, do i think we will come together to do it, yes, i do. >> i should note the biden plan does not lift the cap on s.a.l.t taxes, state and local tax deductions. that overwhelmingly benefits high income earners in predominantly blue states. appealing it is democrats like from california and new york. a lot of house democrats say they will not support the bill unless this s.a.l.t. cap provision is included. does that need to be in the bill. >> look, these are one of the million issues that are going to have to be dealt with. at the end of the day, people come from big cities. have a different perspective than people that come from rural communities. we have as to work these things out. but i do believe given the crises the country faces, and the need to create millions of good-paying jobs, the need to expand healthcare, guarantee to healthcare that so many are uninsured or under insured.
the need to lower the high cost of prescription drugs. i think you are going to see the democratic caucus coming together to pass very, very significant legislation. >> senator bernie sanders, independent in vermont. thank you for being here. i hope you found the acucomen last week. president bind says they will support his infrastructure bill even if their senators don't? is that true? mississippi governor tate reeves is joining me next.
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vaccine dose with at least 3 million shots going into arms every day according to the cdc. but the cdc director is still warning of impending potential doom, warning the country could be backsliding. joining me now is republican governor of mississippi tate reeves. governor reeves, thank you for joining us. happy easter to you. so you just relaxed indoor capacity guidelines in your state even further. mississippi currently ranks only 42nd out of the 50 states in vaccinations per capita, using your state's own data. now, i know you say that vaccine hesitancy is playing a role here. and polls show that that is a problem. why do you think so many people, primarily republicans, do not want the vaccine? would you like to see former president trump do more to promote it? >> well, thanks for having me on, jake. as always, happy easter. look, i don't think there is any doubt there is vaccine hesitancy, particularly in rural areas across america.
we also had vaccine hesitancy early on within our african american commuted. in our state and across the community. we are seeing a significantly higher uptake there as each polling data comes in. we are seeing more and more americans that are willing to take the vaccine. we have approximately 535,000 mississippians that are fully vaccinated today. we have another 300,000 plus that have received their first dose. so i am hopeful as we move forward, that more and more of my constituents will recognize the importance of it and it is important. it's something that i have done, my family has done. i was able to see my grandmother recently for the first time in a year on her 90th birthday. so the vaccine is our path towards normalcy. it's one that i hope more folks across the country will recognize. >> that's wonderful. i'm so glad to hear about your grandmother. do you think that trump coming forward and telling the rural americans, the trump supporters in mississippi, hey, i got
vaccinated in january. i don't know why he did it in secret, but he did. it's safe and great and good to do. do you think that will help? >> i am starting to think president trump and other leaders across america, not only political leaders but the leaders across all meth odds would be helpful, but let's be honest, i think more than anything else, and we've had a lot of conversations with my state health officer. will you see us do something about it this week. we need the educate folks. we need to make sure we educate all people and let them know this vaccine is safe. while it is under an emergency use authorization, it has gone through clinical trials with literally tens of thousands of individuals who have done that. it has been peer reviewed. so i think the education piece is more important than the endorsement piece, if you would. it's kind of like politics. getting endorsements are important in politics, but at
the end of the day, you've got to educate the voters on why you should be elected. so i think that's something we need to work on. >> your fellow governor ron desantis of florida issued an executive order banning businesses from requiring vaccine passports that would prove an individual has received the covid-19 vaccine. do you think private business should be banned from requiring vaccine passports? what's your take on this? >> well, i don't support vaccine passports. i don't think it's necessary. i don't think it's a good thing to do in america. i will tell you this, in mississippi, we have pretty significant requirements in terms of vaccines for our kids going to public schools. we're one of the most highly vaccinated states amongst our kids in america. but there are those individuals that don't want to do that. let's be honest, this is where we focused our vaccine distribution. this virus treats those over the age of 50, particularly those
over the age of 65, very differently than it treats those under the age of 50. 98% of our deaths in mississippi have been people over the age of 50. over 90% of our deaths have been people over the age of 65. that's why i'm so proud of the fact that we're really very fastly approaching 75% of our senior citizens have received the vaccine in our state. so we're protecting those most vulnerable. at some point we have to let americans make the decision they think is best for them and their family. >> let's turn to president biden's bill. the american society of civil engineers gives your state a d-minus for your roads and bridges, almost one and ten are structurally deficient. the number of roads in poor conditions is double the national average. a winter storm knocked out water in your state capitol for weeks. this legislation requires
millions of dollars to fix roads and bridges. could mississippi use the help? >> there is no doubt mississippi can use our fair share. the problem is, the biden administration is calling it an infrastructure plan. it looks like a $2 trillion tax hike to me. that will lead to significant challenges in our economy, a slowing gdp. it will lead to americans losing significant numbers of jobs. infrastructure, jake, is an area where republicans and democrats ought to be able to come together and do something good for the country. as you mention, this plan spends $110 billion on roads and bridges and spends more than that on the combination of amtrak and public transit. what's even worse, it spends $100 billion on clean water, which mississippi can certainly use. it spends more on subsidizing electric vehicles. $155 billion to subsidize electric vehicles. that is a political statement.
it's not a statement on trying to improve our infrastructure in america. so it looks more like the green new deal than an infrastructure plan. but if the biden administration will do what the president said he wants to do, which is work with republicans, i believe we can come up with a plan that we can afford and pay for and to truly invest in the infrastructure needs in this country, and there is no doubt that mississippi like virtually every other state could use federal support. infrastructure is a core function of government. it is something the federal government, the state government and local government should spend more of our resources on. we don't have to hike taxes by $2 trillion to do it. >> how do you may for it then? >> well, i think you pay for it in a number of different ways. one way you pay for it is by seeing significant improved economic growth. we saw that throughout the trump administration, because the policies were pro business.
they were pro growth and revenues improved. unfortunately, during those four years, like the four years before that, they did not in washington get control of spending. they feel as if the debt doesn't matter. you are looking at a debt burden today of nearly $30 trillion for americans. what is ultimately going to happen, it's already happening. as interest rates rise, the share of our annual budget that goes to pay for interest expense will rise from already is an enormous level of 15 to 20% of all federal revenues goes to pay interest expense. that is not sustainable over the long term. >> that doesn't answer the question as to how do you pay for it, though. it actually provides examples of how it is even more complicated than that. governor tate reeves, thank you so much. hope you have a blessed day. >> thank you very much, happy easter to you and all your viewers. a community overcome with guilt, sadness and anger after george floyd's death spilling out on the stand.
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i'm jake tapper. the trial of derek chauvin, the former minneapolis police officer charged in the death of george floyd, will continue tomorrow after a week of emotional testimony that had some witnesses breaking down on the stand, traumatized by feelings of guilt after seeing the man die in front of them and not being able to prevent it. joining us to discuss democratic congresswoman ilhan omar who represents minneapolis. congresswoman, thanks, so much for joining us. early happy ramadan to you. so for joining us. early happy ramadan to you. let me ask you, on an emotional level, what's it been like for to you watch this trial in your hometown and re-live this trauma that you have fell, that so many of your constituents have felt all over again? >> yeah. i mean, it's been, you know, retraumatizing. it's been really hard. i've tried to avoid watching. i know a lot of us here in minneapolis have done that.
but it's hard. right. you also want to know the details and want to hear from the witnesses. there is a lot we are learning. we learned it wasn't eight minutes and 46 seconds, but it was 9 minutes and 29 seconds. it's been really hard. i think the one part that said with me is the fact that everyone that, who took the witness stand said they felt helpless. that is a feeling that we know really well here in minneapolis when it comes to police abuse and, you know, i remember feeling helpless 20 years ago when i witnessed police officers unload, you know, three dozen rounds on a mentally ill somali
so it's been -- it has unearthed so much trauma for many of us, but we have each other and we're going to get through it. >> most deaths in police custody do not result in charges for the police officers involved. even when there are cases and they go to trial, convictions of police officers are still relatively rare. are you and your city prepared for the possibility of a hung jury or a not guilty verdict in this case? >> so the community's only edge about that. we have seen justice not delivered in our community for many years. and, you know, i think that there is a lot of confidence in
attorney general keith ellison and the prosecutors in this case. we are all eagerly awaiting to see how this trial shakes out, it's been really horrendous to watch the defense put george floyd on trial instead of the police officer -- the former police officer who's charged with his murder. >> major league baseball, if i can shift topics for one second to another issue with justice, major league baseball pull the all-star game from georgia because of that state's new restrictive voting law. stacey abrams says she understands why people would want to boycott the protest. but she thinks such actions hurt the working people, who would be working at the major league baseball game, for example, who are disproportionately minorities. do you agree with major league baseball's decision, or do you side with stacey abrams when it comes to boycotts of georgia, in general? >> we know that boycotts have
allowed for justice to be delivered in many spaces, the civil rights movement was rooted in boycotts. we know that apartheid ended in south africa because of boycotts. so our hope is that, you know, this boycott would result in changes in the law because we understand that when you restrict people's ability to vote, you create a democracy that isn't fully functioning for all of us. if we are to continue to be a beacon of hope for all democracies around the world, we must stand our ground. >> there is no question that this law restricts voting, and there is no question that it's understandable why people are
wary of republicans that passed it, given the big lie about the election. but i have to say, the georgia law, even with the new restrictions is still more open compared to other states like new york or delaware, in many ways. places that don't have no excuse, early voting. places that don't have early voting at all in some cases. should everybody -- should every state be re-examining their voting laws? >> they certainly should be. minnesota is not number one in voter turnout and participation, you know, because we are very special, even though we are. it's because we have made voting accessible for people, and it is really important that every single state reexamine their voting laws and make sure that voting is accessible to everyone. it's also going to be really
important for us to continue to push hr-1. which makes it accessible nationwide and strengthens our democracy. >> congresswoman ilhan omar, again, happy early ramadan. thank you so much for joining us today. >> thank you for having me. president trump just summed up his failures on the covid pandemic in one word, and that's next.
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so, i got vaccinated. i made an appointment through my health care system. i showed up at georgetown university hospital and i got it. it is a miracle of modern science. a year ago -- heck, last summer, we had no idea if scientists would even be able to discover a vaccine and now almost 60 million americans have been fully vaccinated. 4 million americans were vaccinated in just 24 hour this is weekend. and thank god for everyone involved at pfizer, at moderna at johnson & johnson and everyone affiliated with operation warp speed, from the scientists to the officials that signed off on the funding, including, yes, former president trump. we hear a lot from maga folks about why the biden administration seems so reluctant to credit trump for the vaccines.
and i get it, they could certainly be more gracious about it. maybe it is political. but many they could not get past the clear derelictions of duty, the refusal to acknowledge what was happening, the undermining of science and scientists, the mocking of those who wore masks the attacks on democratic governors, the promotion of quackeries, and mishandling that had real tangible impact. what impact? but here is how dr. deborah birx put it no sanjay gupta. >> look at it this way, the first time we have an excuse, there were about 100,000 deaths that came from that original surge. all of the rest of them, in my mind, could have been mitigated or decreased substantially. >> all of the rest of them, all of the rest of them is about 450,000 u.s. lives.
450,000 dead fathers and mothers, sisters and brothers, husbands and wives, sons and daughters dead. and not only did trump not deny this dereliction, in a statement pushing back against doctors birx and fauci, after sanjay's cnn documentary, trump acknowledged that he went against the experts' advice. quote, based on their interviews i thought it was time to speak out about dr. fauci and dr. birx trying to cover for their bad instincts and faulty recommendations which i fortunately almost always over turned. >> that's it, the overturning. that is part of the reason why we have hundreds of thousands of dead americans who, according to birx, did not have to die. that is an admission, that is a confession. remember when president trump
said that the administration's mitigation efforts, success would be if they only had between 100,000 and 250,000 americans dead, and now the number is more than 550,000. these are your fellow americans who fell in the red, blood red. there is so much about the trump era that his supporters, especially those in congress, want you to forget. i thought about this all on friday after capitol officer billy evans was killed. within hours president biden had the flags at the white house lowered to half-staff in the officers' honor. i it's not particularly laudable or anything. it's normal, human decent behavior, what we expect from presidents. and then i remembered three months ago after the maga mob attacked brian sicknick and then
president trump refused for days on end to put the flags at half-staff and because, and let's be honest and clear-eyed here, trump was on the side of the mob that attacked the capitol. he was on the side of the folks who attacked officer sicknick. now he's trying to rewrite history. he did this two weeks ago. >> some of them went in and they're hugging and kissing the police and the guards. they had great relationships. a lot of people were waived in and then they walked in and they walked out. >> just absolutely hideously false, and we all saw it. history saw it. so, yes, i am vaccinated, partly due to the approval of former president trump of operation warp speed, as are my parents and are so many millions of you and i'm so happy about all of that. but facts do not exist in a
vacuum detached from other less pleasant facts. and those other facts include that trump got the vaccine in total secret in january. and he's hardly been actively encouraging his supporters, so many of whom are reluctant to get vaccinated to follow his lead. those other facts include the fact that more than 450,000 deaths that dr. birx said could have been mitigated or decreased substantially. and those other facts are untold horrors and indecencies that threaten to rip apart of the fabric of the nation. it would be like crediting trump for eventually, after days, after it was pointed out how hideous it wasn't doing it, that he put the flags at half-staff for the officer sicknick but do you not remember everything else that happened prior? thank you for spending your sunday morning with us. the news continues next.
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this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria, coming to you live from new york. today on the show, president biden's ambitious policy pushes have garnered comparisons to fdr and lbj. are those analogies apt? where will this round of progressivism go? >> in 50 years people will look back and say this is the moment that america won the future. >> i'll as