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officer in the entire city. >> what's your -- you know, your view of that use of force during that time period? >> totally unnecessary. >> what do you mean? >> well, first of all, pulling him down to the ground facedown and putting your knee on a neck for that amount of time is just uncalled for. cnn security correspondent josh campbell joins me now. first of all, the top homicide detective in the city of minneapolis saying what officer chauvin das was totally unnecessary, those are very impactful words. >> reporter: good to be with you on you are inaugural show. the two key witnesses that were call this week, senior officers
derek chauvin's fellow officers, rejecting the nothing that she was somehow acting under policy when he held george floyd on the pavement for nine minutes. >> the family of george floyd kneeling in protest just hours before the trial began. prosecutors open with a video that sparked a worldwide movement, capturing chauvin kneeling on floyd's neck, which they say killed him. >> you can believe your eyes that it's a homicide. >> reporter: chauvin's attorney says the video doesn't tell the whole story. >> the ingestion of methamphetamine and fentanyl, and adrenaline flowing through his body. mike mcmillian pleading with
floyd to give into police. [ crying ] >> i don't a mama, either. i understand him earp heard for the first time since the beginning of the trial, chauvin himself on police body camera footage, as he defends his treatment of floyd to mcmillian. >> i have to control this guy. he's a sizable guy it looks like he's probably on something. >> reporter: arguably the strongest testimony came from members of the minneapolis police department. sergeant david pleuger was a supervising office. >> do you have an opinion to when the restrain of mr. floyd should have ended in this encounter? >> yes. >> what is it? >> when mr. floyd was no longer offering up any resistance to the officers, they could have ended the restraint.
>> after he was handcuffed, on the ground, no longer resisting? >> correct. >> reporter: the jury heard from richard zimmerman, who testified it was totally unnecessary for chauvin to kneel on floyd's neck after he had been handcuffed, calling it deadly use of force. >> once you handcuff somebody, does that amount the -- affect amount of force you use? >> yes. once a person is handcuffed, the threat level goes down. >> reporter: arguing that zimmerman is a detective, not a patrol officer. >> it would not be within your normal role to do a use of force analysis? >> that is correct. >> reporter: a common emotion emerged from some of the eye wince
witnesses -- remorse. an interact that initiated the police response, the teenager asked what he now feels about the encounter. >> disbelief and guilt. >> why guilt? >> if i would have just not taken the bill, this could have been avoided. >> reporter: jim, to take your viewers inside the courtroom, i was in the trial for part of it this week, and i was seated directly behind chauvin. he sat still throughout much of the trial, sometimes taking notes. interestingly it was when his oats video and audio were played for the jury from that police body camera, he started to fidget, his legs were moving wildly. he looked away at one point from the screen. the jury is taking this trial very seriously. they're taking copious notes, paying attention to the exhibits, the witnesses, no doubt understanding the gravity of this case and the ultimate verdict they will have to render at a trial being watched around
the world. >> absolutely, josh. that was a great comprehensive look at what was ha heartbreaking week. josh campbell, thanks for that. joining me is chris stewart, representing the family of george floyd. thanks for joining us. this testimony has been graphic, in that josh campbell piece, videos very different for the country to watch. i was watching a lot of this trial this week. it is just devastating to see witness after witness breaking down on the stand in that fashion still all these months later. how has this been for the family of george flowed, having to sit through all of this this. >> painful. you know, our team had seen these videos, cried, been upset, but for them to see it again and again and again, it's heartbreaking, but worth it if they get justice in the end. >> i want to ask about some of the testimony we heard and that
the jurors heard before going home for the weekend. this is the seniormost officer on the police force. listen to what he had to say. >> based on your review of the videos of the incident and directing your attention into that moment when mr. floyd is placed on the ground. >> yes. >> what is your view of that use of force during that time period? >> totally unnecessary. >> we saw all that heartbreaking testimony all week, but that's a very experienced police officer there saying in no uncertain terms, this was unnecessary. >> it was powerful. think about it, jim, this is an actual ranking police officer, the highest in the department, saying this was unnecessary, there was no threat from the crowd. this is the kind of person you listen to. everyone's getting ready for the experts that are coming, but
remember, experts are hired. they're hired to saying what they're saying, so listen to the actual officers. >> do you think it's possible chauvin could be acquitted after the testimony that we saw this past week? >> it would take a juror who has not been listening, who already made up their mind before it started, and who doesn't believe in justice, or doesn't believe that george floyd was murdered right in front of their eyes. i don't think that happened. i think they picked a good jury. everyone was ready to listen. with this testimony, it's impossible. >> i want to get your thoughts on this, the prosecution played never-before-seen recordings of comments from chauvin after floyd was taken away in an ambulance, as part of a call that tchauvin made to a supervisor. >> he's a sizable guy. >> yeah, and i thought they didn't get in the car. >> like he was on something.
i was going to call you and have you come out to the scene here. um, not really, but we had to hold the guy down. he was -- he was -- going crazy. wouldn't go in the back of the squad -- >> what do you hope, chris, that the jurors took away from these recordings? that's critical footage there. >> two huge things from that. listen to how nervous he sounds. he's choking on his own words, because he knows he's lying. secondly, a big thing he says -- he admitted that he thought george floyd was on something. that affects your use of force. now he knows this person may be under the influence of something. he should be monitoring their health, their breathing, issues that will come as he has him on the ground. he didn't do that, but he can take notes back to back to back every single word, but he can't
check someone's pulse? it's ridiculous. >> we're seeing gives of the defense strategy, and apparently it seems to rely heavily on his drug use and his character. this is a cross-examination of a clerk from cup foods. let's watch. >> you formed the pin that mr. fl -- opinion that mr. floyd was on something. >> correct. >> you based that on delay of speech and his response. >> correct. >> you also indicated in your interviews he was having trouble with certain words? >> correct. he was trying to form the words. >> so he was delayed in his speech, and you believed him to be under the influence of something? >> correct. what is your response to this line of defense? >> it's the desperation defense. what if he was just mentally
ill? do you deserve to die then? what if he was drunk? in america you don't get killed for being under the influence of alcohol, drugs, mentally ill, whatever it may be, you don't get executed for that. it's just desperation. look at it. they're throwing the fire department under the bus. they're throwing their own officers under the bus. they're willing to say anything in order to get him off. you know, desperation is not going to win. >> chris, i want to ask you an important question. we're going to see as you were saying, more of this from the defense. what is that going to be like for the floyd family if they're watching this defense team go after their loved one over and over and over again to try to mount some sort of defense to get chauvin off? >> well, we prepared them for it. walter scott was like this, it was on the news, people were watching it. you have to be prepared for it, because they're going to throw
everything but the kitchen sink. they're desperate. their own officer said what they did was wrong. you'll hear more. america is saying what they did was wrong, but he can't accept he's going to have to pay the price for murdering someone. >> chris stewart, thank you so much for that. we'll talk soon. have a good weekend form pressure it. coming up, playing hardball. major league baseball pulls theall star game out of georgia. now former president trump is telling his supporter to boycott america's pastime. we'll see how that works.
boards and makes it illegal to give people food and water while they wait this line to vote. georgia's republican governor just held a news conference a short while ago, slamming the decision. >> georgia and all americans should know what this decision means. it means cancel culture and part san activist are come fog your business. major league baseball, coca-cola and delta may be scared of stacey abrams, joe biden and the left, but i am not. i want to be clear, i will not be backing down from this fight. >> cnn's natasha chen joins us from atlanta. natasha, you asked the governor specifically about this issue of voter fraud, which has been puddled out time and again, even though there weren't instances of voter fraud found in the 2020 election. who did he have to say? >> first, congratulations on the
show, jim. i did ask him about that. he doesn't answer that question directly. he said people have different opinions about what happened in the 2020 elections. here's a bit more from that exchange with him. >> reporter: is the timing of this based on your belief that there was in fraud in recent elections in georgia? >> i realize people have all kinds of differences of opinions and beliefs about the 2020 election, but make no mistake, there were issues that happened on the election, like they do in every election. >> reporter: he said it was a sad day for major league baseball, terrible for the organization, for local businesses here that were really hoping that this all-star game would boost them after a difficult pandemic year. he also said that major league baseball should have come to him with specific complaints if they had a problem with this law. so i asked him if mlb had done
that? was there any part of the bill he would have been open to discussing or adjusting? he said that's a question about a nonexistent situation, because mlb didn't do that. we talked to the cobb county travel organization. they said they smimt more than $100 million may be lost because of the game pulling out of the georgia. someone else asked what governor kemp feels about a possible snowball effect other businesses potential pulling out of georgia. he doubled down and said he would stand up and fight this. at the same time you have other major athletes, politicians chiming in here. let me read a tweet from former president obama. he said congratulations to mlb for taking a stand. there's no better way for america east pastime to honor
the great hank aaron who always led by example. they said investments for local communities here in atlanta, though projects will still continue, regardless. >> natasha chen, thanks. remember, they did this in georgia as a response to donald trump losing the el election. he lost fair and square. there were no instances of widespread voter fraud. now georgia is paying the consequences for it just because there are some politicians who can't get over the fact that donald trump lost. thank you, natasha. joining in is nakima williams of georgia, the first black woman to represent georgia's 5th congressional district. obviously no one wants to see your state's economy damaged, but it looks lie it could lose as much as $100 million because of this. as painful as it is, will it take these major corporations
doing this, pulling business out of your state to get the meaningful change that you want? >> well, first congratulations so the show, jim. happy to be here today. >> thank you. >> i listened to the remark of governor kemp. no matter how many times he says it, it doesn't make it true. he had the opportunity to get this right. he failed to stand up for the people. so saying that major league babble should h-- baseball shoud have -- he wasn't listening to the people. that's what major baseball is standing up for. i applaud activism. he can say people had differences of opinionthere's facts, donald trump lost, we recounted, he lost. we recounted them, he still
lost. and they rewrote the election laws in response. now we are suffering the consequences because brian kemp and his republican party is still uplifting trump's big lie. >> former president trump still sounds like a sore loser. he issued thi d this statement. -- boycott baseball and all of the woke companies interferes with free and fair elections. are you listening? and this was from former governor mike huckabee. this is almost too stupid, but we'll read it. this is an indication for how crazy it is. i've decided to identify as chinese. coke will like me, delta will agree with my values and i'll probably get shoes from nike and tickets to mlb games. ain't america great? what is your reaction to some of
those responses that we're seeing? >> you know what, jim, they're trying to make a joke out of this and minimize the issue at hand. what i look at that is happening right now, this is our civil rights moment. if you ever wondered as a corporation, as a person, which side of the civil rights movement you would have been on, this is your chance to find out. there are no two sides of this issue. you are either on the side of democracy, or you are not. so it is time for everyone in this country to stand up. we can't change what already happened with sb-202 in georgia, but we are hr-1 that has already passed the house, in the senate right now. we have an opportunity to get this right. we can make sure that everybody in this country has equal access to the ballot box. >> congresswoman, i want your take on this. we've been following the case of park cannon. let's look at some of the this video. she's potentially facing eight years in prison if convicted for
two felony charges to trying to witness the bill signing by governor kemp. she was knocking on the door, put in handcuffsly the police officer. you yourself were awested for protesting voter suppression, two very similar themes. what is your response? >> when people show you who they are, jim, we should believe them. brian kemp has a history of vo voter suppression and having black women officials arrested at their job. they can't silence us by taking us to jail. it only gives us more resolve to keep fighting for the people. that's what i'm doing in congress. i'm not going to stop until i make sure everyone has free and fair access to the ballot. >> yeah, i wonder what's going
to happen when people bring folks cookies when they're in standing in line. we now have additional cnn reporting that gaetz was allegedly showing off photos of aid videos of snaked -- will many too embarrassing to ask, but parent some of this hard on the floor of your statehouse. what is your reaction? >> it's good that i've never had a conversation with the congressman and probably would not be able to pick him out because we all wear masks on the floor. this is what we have become in this country when we allow one political party to not respect the government, the foundations of our government. the republican party right now needs to do a reflection on itself. look at the leaders they sent to washington, d.c.
look at the issues that they're pushing across this country. most of them are not fit to serve. they need to evaluate if they really want to be in this body, we're at a critical moment in this country's history, and we need to make some tough decisions. the republican party has a lot of self-reflecting to do. >> strong words there, congresswoman. stay with me. we have more to discuss. coming up, disturbing details about the suspect who rammed his card into the officer at the capitol. hi online rantings. we'll discuss that with the congresswoman. ♪ you come and go ♪ ♪ you come and go-o-o ♪ ♪ loving would be easy if your colors were like my dreams ♪ ♪ red, gold -- ♪ [ tires screech ] [ crickets chirping ] for those who were born to ride there's progressive. with 24/7 roadside assistance.
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the nation's capitol one against on high alert following a deadly attack after the january 6th insurrection. this time a man ran his car into a barricade killing police officer michael evans. another was injured. the suspect was shot and killed by police after he ran towards officers brandishing a knife. the motive remains unclear, but cnn has learned the last week the suspect ranted online about the cia and the fbi, claiming to be a victim of mind control. boris sanchez is following the latest. what are we learning about the suspect? >> investigators are -- so far here is what we know. it was noah green that carried out this assault.
he was living in virginia. according to social meria posts tied to green, his mind in the weeks before this attack had been unraveling. in them he writes about the fbi and cia and u.s. government creating terrible affliction shuns. he also talks about mind control as well, and he posted this. it's a video of nation of islam leader louis farrakhan, and labeled as the u.s. government is the number one enemy of back people. so far we don't totally know his incorrective, and if he was anyone out there that may have been working with him or may have given him some advice or counseled his his aggress. >> and boris, it's raising new
questions about the security on the capitol, and whether it was the right move to remove some fencing. that understandably has driven everybody in crazy in washington, bus was put up in the aftermath for everybody's discussion. what do you think hack to that now. >> reporter: lawmakers had been complaining about the added security and all the barriers. of course, you know, if you watch closely and look at the scene of where this happened, green's car wouldn't have been able to access that point if the barriers had still been up. notably there's a conversation about whether the capitol is an active target, and that may be the sad reality, but today they put the barrier back up? and of course thousands of national guard on hands just footprints from the capitol, jim. >> we certainly want to keach everybody safe, including you
have, up on capitol hill, members of congress, all the staffers up there working hard every day. boris sanchez, thank you. congresswoman williams is back with me. she had been in office only three days when the capitol insurrection broke out on january 6th. since then has received threats. there's a lot of folks in the press who can relate to that. i can't imagine what it must be like to live through such a horrible ideal on january 6th, and less than three months later hear of another deadly attack. what was your reaction to happened yesterday? >> first my heart goes out to all of the officers and the family who lost a colleague. no one goes to work thinking they won't return home. my chief of staff was in the office and asked her if she was okay. i could hear it in her voice she
wasn't okay. she is there to help meserve my district, and yet it feels like she's under a constant assault. yesterday my son got out of school, out of kindergarten, spring break started. he wanted to go for a walk in our neighborhood. our neighbor today was, like, carter, i saw you walking your dog. he said, that wasn't me, it was the security guard. the fact i can't even walk down my sidewalk with my son down the side wake without a security guard, that's what this country has come to. people are targeting congress and the very symbol of our democracy is under attack. >> it's just wrong, wrong, wrong. let me ask you this. there's been a big battle over the fencing and the razor wire around the capitol. people don't like seeing it. mitch mcconnell says the
security measures remind him of kabul, afghanistan. obviously it wouldn't be that way if they didn't have the insurrection on january 6th. at this point, do you believe all the fencing needs to stay up? what could they do? >> after what i saw yesterday, i definitely think we need to reassess what our threat levels are and see what we need to have in place, because i want my staff to feel safe when they're walking back and forth from the metro to get to work. right now i don't know what that safety looks like. we have not received information to determine what the next steps are. we need to make sure we are keep safe. my republican colleagues can help us in that, talking to some of the people that support them, making sure they understand that everything they're still fighting about online and through the state legislatures was based on a lie, but they
still haven't admitted that. it's hard to move forward as a country when we have an entire political party that is still campaigning for the mid terms based on a lie. >> as you know -- i don't have to tell you they, we're living through a polarized time. the reality is five people have died. officers have been horrifically injured, members of congress as you were saying, afraid to their lives. as someone who has had to have security not just at work, but at home, you were talking about your kids a few moments ago, what do you tell your family about where mom goes to work? >> my son is only five, but he's quite precocious, and he understand of explaining it to names why mommy has security and
why there's an extra person in the carpool lane. so it has become a part of our life. it's very sad that -- but i want to make sure when we are here and going about our day of just watering the plants in the frontary, that we are safe. unfortunately, this is something that i have to pay for to make sure i'm safe. i don't get security through the united states congress. this is something i personally have to make sure is taken care of. >> congresswoman, thank you for share that part, too. it's so important to understand what you and your family are personally going through. you are human beings, and we appreciate you spending all this time with us. thanks so much. >> thank you, jim. >> and happy easter. coming up, more on the deepening scandal, including allegations of sex trafficking,
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new details are emerging into the investigation of matt gaetz, including an alleged relationship with a 17-year-old. cnn has gained an audiotape, and one of our newest team members, paula reed, has the very latest. >> reporter: the federal investigation into congressman matt gaetz for possibly prostitution and sex trafficking crimes, including an alleged relationship with a minor, now centering around his friendship with this man, joel greenberg. in addition, investigators believe greenberg, a former seminole county tax collector, recruited multiple men online
for sex, and introduced those women to gaetz, who had sex with them, too. "new york times" said it reviewed apple pay and cash app receipts shah showed they made payments to one of the women and one payment from greenberg to a different wok. gaetz's office says he's never paid for sex and refutes all of the disgusting allegations completely. >> reporter: but a source telling cnn investigators are examining whether any federal campaign money was involved in paying for travel and sxejz for the women. gaetz and greenberg have been friends for years, posting photos together, gaetz even telling a local radio station saying that greenberg would make a good congressman.
>> reporter: the duo leaving an unsolicited voice mail on a woman. this is your tax collector, i'm up in the pan woman with your favorite congress -- we were just talking about your lovely qualities. >> we think you're the future of the democratic party in florida. >> reporter: additional information that may connect gaetz to a kescheme, sources familiar telling cnn greenberg had entered a plea of not guilty. attorneys for greenberg and gaetz had no comment. in addition to the federal investigation, multiple sources total cnn gaetz showed lawmakers photos and videos of nude women he claimed to have slept with. one source saying gaetz shared the images on his phone while on the floor of the house.
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edge boxes an mma bridge. and with us is a black belt in brazilian jujitsu. this is coach mario luhan. he's a trainer. chokeholds part of mma? >> 100%. >> reporter: what is the purpose? >> chokehold is one way to end a fight without any serious violence, and you can do it without serious injury. >> reporter: you have to do iteically -- >> you have to be responsible. one is a rear naked choke. when i'm behind my opponent, i bring my forearm, my hand grabs on to my bicep to lock the position. in here, i slowly start to squeeze. when my opponent taps, i need to release.
>> reporter: what's another one? >> another basic choke is a front guillotine. when my opponent's head in a down position, i grab my other hand, here i slowly start to squ squeeze. >> reporter: he felt it. that's legitimate and ethical? >> these are all ethical. >> reporter: you trained with police officers, you know what they go they're, they're taught to do it like this, but not the way it was done in minnesota. >> definitely not. >> reporter: with one of your associates, i want to show me what not to do. when coach mario looks at the derek chauvin videotape, this is what he sees. >> he he had knee on his arm. his other knee was right across his neck. you can see where i'm on my toes, because i'm being nigh to
him. once i change my together position. if i'm like this, his face is fine, but what i believe the officer should have done was here on the shoulder blade. hand controlling, and hi's here. george isn't going anywhere, especially with three other officers. i keep the head control so he can't move in certain directions, but once i change my food position and start to put the pressure. >> reporter: i take it you were horrified when you saw the videotape? >> i was like, oh, my god, it was completely unnecessary. he didn't have to have his knee on his neck. >> reporter: what do you teach your children?
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and you are live in the "cnn newsroom." this just into cnn, the very latest covid vaccine data from the cdc. a record day and record numbers. get this. 4 million doze of coronavirus vaccine were administered in the past day. the white house and cdc officials are celebrating this, saying first day with 4 million or more. the covid-19 director at the white house tweeting millions coming together toward controlling the pandemic. the cdc reporting that 161 million vaccine doses have in and out been administered here in the u.s., more than 59 people in -- 59 million are fully vaccinated. several stes