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here's our breaking news. georgia's republican governor signing a sweeping new elections law that restricts access to voting. a georgia state representative is arrested after knocking on brian kempl's door, trying to get into his office while he is signing the legislation. she is charged with obstruction. meanwhile the president of the united states joe biden and his first formal news conference since taking off is slamming moves by gop lawmakers to limit voting access, calling that despicable and unamerican. making it clear to the american
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people his priorities are getting shots in arms, kids in schools, and checks in pockets. big challenges ahead on infrastructure, voting rights, guns and the border. let's discuss now. our chief national affairs correspondent is jeff zeleny. good evening to you. this voting rights battle is heated. president biden is calling the push by republican state legislatures to restrict voting rights, and i quote here, sick and unamerican. but is it his number one priority given what we saw hampppen in georgia? >> it is not his number one priority but he explained. why he did say the president must select the timing of issues for a reason. he did talk, he was certainly more animated about voting rights than anything else he talked about. he did call it unamerican, as you said. he also called it person ishs. and used the example that it would be criminal behave to give an older voter a gls of water as
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she waited in line to cast a ballot. so he said it was his plan to really explain these laws happening in georgia and many states across the country. he said he does not believe rank and file republicans actually support them. for elected officials, he said they do. given all that, he said it is not his top priority. there is a bill in the house of representatives that would federalize election laws, and that is essentially dead on arrival. at least, holding in the senate. so that is where the rubber is going to meet the road for him on this. certainly an issue. but not the top priority. and he explained why. >> well, you know, he talked about infrastructure. that will be his next push. he is pushing his $3 trillion plan. this is how he explained that and what you're talking about. here it is. >> successful presidents better than me have been successful in large part because they know how to time what they're doing.
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order to sign priorities, what needs to be done. >> presidents only have a certain amount of political capital. biden is being practical. he saw how president obama put everything into guns after sandy hook, got nowhere. do you think that's weighing on him? >> i think without question, don. and it wasn't only president obama. it was then vice president joe biden who was the point person of that gun legislation in the wake. newtown massacre. i remember being in the halls of the senate, watching the vice president trying to lobby for this bill, meeting with family members. that crime, it is hard to imagine a more horrific crime and that did not, was not enough to get senators to come together on a universal background check. it is one thing, the white house is certainly committed to it. what he is saying is look, i won't allow to it disrupt my program. he is still laser focused on the
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economy. that's what the infrastructure, physical infrastructure, technological infrastructure, is all about. that bill is next up. he said the white house can do many things at once. so he is looking at executive actions. something he can do with the stroke of a pen on guns as well as pushing congress. but it is very much an open question, whether anything will sort of change the gun debate in manager. so far for decades, it really hasn't. >> our man in washington. thank you very much. appreciate that. a georgia state representative arrested and removed from the state capitol. she was trying to get into the governor's office where he was signing an election overhaul bill that critics say will make it much harder to vote. a cnn analysis shows disproportionately harms black voters. cnn has learned that raphael warnock is there with her at the jail. diane, good evening to you. thank you for joining.
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so this is all caught on tape. tell us what happened. take us inside. >> reporter: yeah. it is probably better for you to see what happened but i can tell you real quick, representative park cannon, an atlanta democrat, was obviously in session because of the votes. and as the governor was signing this bill into law, in his ceremonial office, you saw on that live stream, he paused for a bit and it went out. you did hear some banging and it appears that's what is happening. take a look at this video. >> why are you coming all close to her like that? >> why does she have to step back? >> why is the governor trying to sign something in private? why he keeping a representative -- >> why does she have to step back?
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>> the governor is signing a bill that affects all georgiians. why is he doing in it private and why is he keeping elected officials that represent us out of the process? >> exactly. [ inaudible ]. >> you said you would give her one more time like you're going to do something. >> are you serious? >> no. >> she's not under arrest. >> for what? under arrest for what? >> for trying to see -- >> reporter: you can probably see what's going. on it becomes very chaotic. they do basically drag her out. she is hand cuffed to put her in a patrol car and taken to jail. she is facing two felony charges tonight. felony obstruction and also, interrupting a general session, a general assembly. according to these arrest
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affidavits, they also claim that representative cannon stomped on the foot of one of those officers there. but look, don, obviously this isn't what anybody thought was going to happen there. you can hear it in the voices of those protesters who were with her. she is the only person who was arrested and has since been charged with two felonies for effectively knocking on the goofr's door. >> two felonies. i mean, it's -- diane, it is a really bad look. when you look at i, it is a really bad look. this is a dramatic couple menation here. because the bill has been fought over for weeks here. right? >> reporter: weeks, really months. it sort of culminated today in a five-hour panel is where the house and the senate and then the governor signed it. and this is something that people in georgia and across the country have been paying attention on and fighting.
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>> appreciate your reporting. thank you so much, diane. i want to bring in now our political analyst, national political reporter for the new york times, and la tasha brown joins us as well. co-founder of black voters matter. good evening to you. i have to start with your reactions to this. let's start with you. police are dragging a black woman, a lawmaker, out of the capitol. the governor is on the other side of the door signing this bill into law. and i want everyone to look. look at the picture that he tweeted. pretty much not to notice that it is a room full of men, bereaved to be all white men here. then when you put them side by side, that kind of says it all, no? >> yeah. this is an image and a kind of struggle that speaks to a much larger arc in american history. the kind of rise of black
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political power and that being met with a back lash that has been skin throughout the story of american democracy and continues to be true. we know as a fact that the impact of this voting efforts will disproportionately hurt black and brown voters in georgia. we know as a fact those are the voters who help propel joe biden to victory in december, helped prepare the two democratic senators to win in georgia. and we know that republicans are looking to how the rest step back. they will try to appeal to their constituencies. what we have seen across the country as republicans who are much more willing to rule by minority, to rule by limiting voting access, rather than appeal to the majority consensus, and georgia is just a microcosm of what would be a larger american story on this front. whereas democracy, the republican party, will able to rise to this stress test. and at this point we're seeing
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one that has doubled down on trump's big lie of the legislation. there's also a double down on the willingness to see a minutiae of voters thank not the growing multicultural majority. >> la tasha, what is your reaction? >> we have to call it what it is. quite frankly, this is racist and anti-democratic. we can fix it up however we want to. we're looking at jim crow to make this. we saw the image of the governor of the state of georgia who actually got in power by suppressing the vote in the state of georgia. and as a reaction, black voters came out in historic numbers. because of our participation, now there are these punitive marriage that's will literally create barriers to the vote. so we saw this image of him surrounded by white men and literally, the state troopers taking a duly elected official who happens to be a black woman,
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taken out in hand cuffs. it is with a we're seeing and wigged, it is beyond a stress test, around what we're seeing for the laws right now. we have a question that we've got to answer. will america become a democracy? at the end of the day, regardless of what political party is in office, my rights as a citizen should be protected because i vote, i should not be pun ished. because other organized criminalize handing out water and snacks to older people that we saw in line. some of them were in line for two, three, four hours. so it is criminal, what is happening. >> or longer. or longer! let me ask you this. i'm glad you bring that up. you look at the optics of this, you're right. we put it side by side. it is really bad optics for republicans. you have the picture of this, being very proud about it. holding press conferences, at least tweeting the picture out. and then not allowing a black
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woman in. there are charges of voter suppression. it is the picture, the quint essential picture of what's going. on here's what i'm wondering. if you look at the optics, if democrats will strategize, can you imagine putting older people in line in the vein of rosa parks, people trying to give they will food and water after they're in line for a long time, and them being arrested. as those pictures go out to america the next time people are in line voting, what happens? what does america do? what happens to the republican party? do they really want to be the folks behind the pictures of people being arrested for handing a little old lady a glass of water as she's waiting in line to cast her vote? do they really want to be that? is that who they want to be? >> you know, what i think they've shown is there is no moral center. there is no floor. we're looking at voters in the
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state of georgia being punished for exercising their civil rights. i think that's really important fong this is a question that goes i can't remember beyond georgia. jorming is one state of many states that we're seeing the legislation. we're going to have to think v voting rights from congress. we're going to have to move forward. we'll have to pass hr 1, hr 4. we'll have to do this. what we're seeing, florida is the tip of the iceberg. the one thing that gives me hope is that people are rising up. if you saw the protest that i participated in. there was a multiracial, multigenerational coalition of people saying we believe in democracy and we'll fight for our democracy and we'll stand for it. >> i want to play this. this is from the president, the bills he's putting across the country. earlier, the one that la tosha
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referred to. >> what i'm worried about is how unamerican this whole initiative is. it is sick. i'm convinced that we'll be able to stop this. it is the most pernicious thing. this makes jim crow look like jim eagle. this is gigantic. it cannot be sustained. i'll do everything in my power along with my friends in the house and the senate to keep it from becoming the law. >> wondering if these pictures coming out of georgia, if this changes his priorities. at least gives him some sort of pause on reassessing what the prioritiesful are he is insisting that his next priority is infrastructure. but access to the ballot is being restricted right now. >> two minds i'm of here. the reporting mind which says, they'll stay the course.
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this is the democratic party in the white house that sees infrastructure as the place they can get the most investment. they can have the best chance of passing, particularly through reconciliation and they want to see a bigger, more robust economy. they think that's where they can make it happen. i don't think it will happen. there's the analysis that says what is the democratic party? have they come to the realization of the core threat this poses for the majorities going forward. this does not just start with joe biden. this goes back to the barack obama party that has not really understood or come to grips with the long term game republican are. march when i core democratic stetcys. so it is a basic question for democrats. do you recognize the threat that this poses to your majorities? and will you then decide that has to overcome the will filibuster, overcome the kind of legislative questions and have blocked them from making
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inroads? or will they prioritize other things and cede this ground ball , cede this plan to republicans. they are focussed in a macro sense only large scale power play of democracy. the question the democrat will wake up to that threat. >> right on. i agree with you as well. one side is playing three dimensional chess. the other side is playing checkers. democrats need to wake up. thank you. i appreciate both of you. prb in his first press conference showing migrant children crossing the border alone. facing the questions about whether he rolled back the previous administration's policy toos soon. ( doorbell ) thanks boo. ( piano glissando ) i think you better double them tots. no, this me was last year. i didn't get my madness last year, so we're doing double the madness this year.
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to take. the circumstances must be horrible. the idea that i'm going to say, which i would never do, that an unaccompanied child ends up at the border, we'll let them starve to death and stay on the other side. no previous administration did that either, except trump. i'm not going to do it. i'm not going to do it. rolling back the policies of separating children from their mothers. i make no apology form. >> well, that's a far cry from what we used to hear. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. >> these aren't people. they're animals. >> we have some bad hombres and we'll get them out. >> these are rough, rough people in many cases. yes, sir, we have barbed wire
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going up. in those care vandals, you have stone cold people. they're gang members. >> joining us, anna navarro, talk about two different approaches here. what was it like for to you listen to this today? >> it was, i mean, i almost couldn't get over just how different it was, right? and wasn't just because it was about immigration and the level of humanity and decency and empathy that joe biden showed. it was because it was just so different in every aspect. tone, cordiality toward the press, respect, patience, it was presidential. as opposed to the press conferences we have seen for the past four years which have been a circus act. it has been a barking show. it has been insane. incoherent. full of lies.
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full ol those questions and did patiently. but on immigration, there could not have been a more stark difference in the way biden approached it than the way trump has approached it. and let me say this. so many on the right want to make it seem like joe biden is not in charge. like joe biden doesn't know what's happening. today joe biden came out prepared. he knew the facts. he knew the statistics. he knew what was happening on immigration, on one side of the border and on the other side of the border. he was a man fully in control and at the same time, doing it all with empathy. >> i think you're correct.
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the whole idea about joe biden, listen, it is not a razzle dazzle sort of con, snake oil salesman of the former president. and not the cool customer of a barack obama. it was, you know, uncle joe, right? this guy who want to work for the american people, who knew the facts but was that out there to impress people. i just want to do the work. so let's talk some policy here. okay? because the former president trump was on fox tonight. this is what he said about officials charging insurrectionists. watch this. >> they go after people, i guess you would call them, lean toward the right. they wave american flags in many cases. they're waving the american flag and they love our country. it was zero threat right from the start. it was zero threat. look. they went in. they shouldn't have done it.
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some of them went in and they're hugging and kissing the police and the guards, you know. they had great relationships. a lot of the people were waved this and they talked about this and they walked out. >> okay. so i'm not sure how nols. but it's something. i mean, alice, five people are dead. come on. kissing and hugging? >> yeah. these people are not pro americans. these people are insurrectionists that stormed the capitol. and they are not representatives certainly of the republican party and people who support our country. and to lump all republicans in the same group as the people who stormed the capitol is completely wrong and ill founded. i want to say with regard to uncle joe and president biden's approach to immigration, look, i think we can all look at the immigration problem and see that
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there needs to be changes, there needs to be reforms. you look at the children coming across the border that need to find safety and need a place to stay. they need compassion. and i think it is important to do so. when you have the current president campaigning on encouraging people to come into this country, transitioning into the white house as being the welcome mat for migrants to come into this country that need a place, and moving into the white house as a welcome mat for migrants to come, and watching the thousands and thousands of them coming into this country, wearing these biden t-shirts saying, give us a place to stay, and to not be able -- >> how is he -- >> understand -- >> you understand the numbers were increasing under the former president. if not higher, people coming in, to this president. how does he get a welcome mat? >> look, in february 2020, the
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numbers compared to 2021 have increased 173%. 100,000 migrants were apprehended in the border in february of this year compared to last year. >> remember we had a pandemic. >> i'm not disagreeing with you. the numbers are astronomical. but i think it is really difficult to hear this president say time nice guy. i welcome they will. i embrace them. i'm going to give them a place to stay but not to have a plan in place to have housing and accommodation and food and shelter for these people is simply unconscionable. and for him to say, to not be able to acknowledge the possibility that he may have rolled back the trump policies a little prematurely, the remain in mexico policies that said they need to stay in mexico unless they've been cleared and vetted by our country to come here. i understand and agree with what he is trying to accomplish. there just should have been a better plan in place to be able
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to process -- >> let me respond to that, though. listen. he got a late start on the transition, right? because for over two months trump and the republicans did not recognize that he was the president-elect. and today what i heard wasn't just uncle joe. i heard senator joe biden, chair of the foreign relations committee, who was in the senate for 36 years and understands policy and who was chair of the judiciary committee. i heard vice president joe biden who did the job that he just gave to kamala harris to do this week. and i heard president joe biden who understands the weight of the responsibility that falls on his shoulders. listen, what this administration, what joe biden has done this week, he has designated a special envoy for the northern triangle in central america. he has tasked kamala harris to work with those governments to
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find the root causes and address the root causes, work on diplomatic solutions on cooperation. if you start walking from honduras, you have to walk thousands of miles by the time you show up on the border with the united states. you've got to go through a bunch of countries -- >> i agree with that. >> done diplomatically -- >> yeah. >> i think you'd better give joe biden a lot of credit -- >> i've got to go. because there are other things that i need cover. we will continue this conversation. we'll continue the conversation. thank you both. i appreciate it. big tech ceos answering questions about the media's show on the insurrection. most of them completely dodged. this personal was watching. he has the real answers next. it. even in places where doctors are scarce. enter medibus, a state-of-the-art clinic on four wheels, powered by cisco,
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a bit of breaking news to tell you about out of georgia. the georgia state rep cannon is out of jail now. her attorney gerald griggs is saying that she is facing two charges. felony obstruction and preventing or disrupting general assembly session. both felonies, all right? in connection with her arrest at the state house. they stated that she was charged with disrupting the general assembly session because she knowingly ly disrupted and knoc on the governor's door during his signing a bill. we'll continue to update you. she's out of jail now. and we'll continue to follow. it will be big news tomorrow morning. make sure you tune in in the morning. now i want to tune in to the ceos of facebook, google and twitter, getting a grilling today from members of congress at a hearing about misinformation online extremism
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in connection with the january 6th riot. facebook rejecting any responsibility for the misinformation that fueled the riot and said pointing his finger directly at the former president donald trump and at the media. let's bring in now business reporter dony sullivan who you just heard in the background. you have to cheer your throat. we need to hear everything you say very clearly. today facebook mark z everything blaming president trump for this insurrection. listen to this. >> we did our part to secure the integrity of the election. and then on january 6th, president trump gave a speech rejecting the results and calling on people to fight. that i believe the division we see today is primarily the result of a political and media environment that drives americans apart. and we need to reckon with that if we're going to make progress. >> so he actually said that they
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don't allow misinformation in facebook ads as well. so what is going on here? seriously? >> yeah. he is unable to take any ounce of responsibility. a few weeks before the snurgs, steve bannon went on facebook in a video and said that dr. anthony fauci and christopher wray should be beheaded. that was not enough for facebook to suspend bannon. so much of the stop the steal organizing, the whole big lie happened on facebook. and he's talking there about trump lying. i mean, all the posts that trump posted about how the election was rigged, how it was stolen, what did facebook do? they didn't restrict them. they put these tiny pathetic little labels on them saying this information might be wrong. joe biden actually won the election. so it is incredible to hear zuckerberg there just totally trying to skirt any form of responsibility whatsoever. >> according to a 2020 report from the "wall street journal," a 2016 presentation by facebook
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research was found, and i quote, the high number of extremist groups was concerning. the presentation says, worse was facebook's realization that its algorithms were responsibility for the growth. the 2016 presentation said 64% of all facebook groups are due to the recommendation tools, and most of the activity came from platforms, groups you should join, and discover algorithms. our recommendation systems grow the problem. this is facebook. they knew the platform was guiding people to the groups years ago of but as we know, extremism is still spreading through facebook. what gives? >> yeah. this is precisely the problem. if you get pulled into a facebook group, which is what facebook is trying to get you to do. you're then swimming in a total eternal i have the upper verse. there were stop the steal groups, groups dedicated to trump, dedicated to
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anti-vaccines. the only thing you will see is anti-vaccine misinformation. and there is one piece of information i'm trying to show you. it is outside the capital. it is a stunt by an activist group called some of us. it was these cutouts of zuckerberg there as the qanon shaman and other tech executives, depicting them as capitol rioters. that's a pretty scary image to show you before bedtime of a bare chested zuckerberg. it does get to the wider point. these executives are culpable. they do have responsibility. we've seen the rioters but what brought them there? sure, the lies from president trump but. so of the organizing, so much of the parallel universe that they are living in was created and enabled by these social media platforms. >> culpable in the information. i appreciate your time and your reporting. so the latest deadly mass shootings exposing the deepening
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immediately after the deadly mass shooting at the boulder supermarket, president biden called on coming to pass legislation including banning assault style weapons and and pande pandemic, expanding background checks. gun legislation didn't seem to be a priority for the president at his news conference today, possibly pause of stiff republican opposition. joining me now on "the new york
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times," nicholas, good to see you. we have two more mass shootings. americans are frustrated. furious that congress cannot get anything done. do you think we need a whole new approach, a public health approach to guns? explain what you mean by that. >> sure. so people in the gun community always say, look, cars kill about as many people each year as guns do and we don't ban cars. no. but we work really hard to reduce the number of auto deaths. so since 1921, we've reduced auto deaths for 100 million miles driven by more than 95%. and there was no one thing that did that, don. rather, it was a million things. seatbelts and airbags and lit highways and padded dash boards. it was round abouts instead of left turns. it was also limiting -- not only making cars safer but access to
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who drives a car. so crackdowns on people who have records of drunk driving. graduated licenses for teenage drivers so they can't drive in the evening or can't have a car load of kids with them. working harder to prevent elderly drivers who have problems to get them out from behind the wheel. and i think that's the model that we need for guns. we won't ban guns in america. there are almost 400 million of them around the country. but we can both make them safer. and we can limit access to them. >> you're right. no texting laws and hands-free laws. you can't be using your cell phone. if you are, it has to be on a speaker or an ear phone so you can pay attention to the road. you're right. you fru up on a farm in oregon. you danieled an nra gun safety class and now you write for the "new york times." so bridge the game. how should people who want a ban
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on assault rifles talk about issues with people who have grown up in a gun culture? >> sure. i'm right now on the family farm, right now. you may their farm dogs barking in the background just for authenticity. my 22 rifle is behind me. i got a 22 when i turned 12. but there was also a time when there was not this military style weapons. farms had rifles. they needed them to deal with coyote and varmints. but it wasn't people carrying around ar 15's. the nra was about advocating for hunters. it wasn't to let anybody have any kind of weapon. what i would recommend to people is don't use the word, don't talk about banning guns.
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that immediately has folks flinch. i think the material gun control tends to turn people off. i use gun safety. >> or gun legislation. i think gun control, no one wants to be controlled. the moment you say gun control, people start yelling about freedom and liberty. am i wrong? >> that's exactly right. in fact, if you look at polls, then households with guns, for example, agree by about the same portion as households without guns, about 90%, that there should be universal background checks. similar shares want red flag laws so somebody has mental health problems can't go out and buy a gun. people open to safe storage of guns which would make a huge difference. so if we can have, if we lower the temperature and have conversations, we can take real incremental step that's won't eliminate gun deaths in america. but they could applausebly
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reduce the carnage by about a third in america which would be 10,000 lives saved each year. >> okay. real quick. then i have a couple seconds. i want to get this. a lot of people notice that her gun was displayed behind her last month at a committee hearing. during an interview tuesday with the colorado shooting, she said she moved the stairs upstairs so biden can't get them. what do you think about the optics of this issue? quickly, sir. >> people have used guns as these tokens, these emblems to prove their credentials. that's such a far cry from the gun culture i grew up with where guns were for plinking, shooting squirrels. i think it is a really sad direction we're going to. >> thank you. good to see you. i hope to see you in person when
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we can get back to normal. >> i look forward tom. thank you. ahead, an update on our top story of a lawmaker now released from jail after protesting a voting restriction bill outside the governor's office. ( doorbell ) thanks boo. ( piano glissando ) i think you better double them tots. no, this me was last year. i didn't get my madness last year, so we're doing double the madness this year.
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good evening. we begin with breaking news. georgia governor, late this evening, signing draconian, new voter registration measures into law. a law based on a lie. it says the law is meant to address, quote, lack of elector confidence in the election system. gee, i wonder where that came from. georgia's 2020 election results were counted. they were recounted. and they were counted, again. no meaningful fraud was uncovered. the results were certified and attested to, numerous times, including by georgia's republican, trump-supporting secretary of state. in short, any, quote, lack of elector confidence, stems from


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