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kremlin simply want their most prominent critic out of public view. all right. thank you. matthew chance, cnn vladimir, russia. >> all right. and thanks very much. incredible report there. thanks so much to all of you for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening. we begin tonight with welcome news for anyone wanting their precovid lives back. it comes however with a dark cloud. the good news first according to the cdc the country is now averaging nearly 2.4 million vaccinations a day. in all, more than 109 million americans have gotten more than one shot like the one vice president harris visit the today in las vegas and more than half the population is vaccinated. late today connecticut's governor expects to expand statewide eligibility to anyone age 16 and up and other states are taking similar steps as vaccine supply ramps up and
supply kicks in. this is happening as new infections and hospitalizations fall and evidence grows from a recent may skbrjor study in isr prevents the spread of infection, not just illness. >> we've always believed that they're having that effect. we didn't know the full magnitude of that benefit but all of the evidence coming out suggests that the impact on the reduction and transmission could be quite strong and if that's the case, the vaccine creates what we call dead end host meaning people will no longer be able to transmit the infection. >> so more people than ever getting shots that appear to be more beneficial the closer you look, the kind of breakthrough we've all been hoping for. why is it in a poll 47% of 2020 trump voters and 49% of republican men say they would not take the vaccine when it becomes available to them. remember, the former president launched the effort to speed up the testing and production of it and demanded national gratitude for the speedy delivery of what
he calls quote that beautiful shot. he's the one who once upon a time even seemed to recognize the public health purpose of someone like him getting vaccinated or not as the situation demanded. >> if there is a vaccine and if they wanted me to be first in line, i'd be first in line or last in line or wouldn't take it at all. whatever is best for the country. >> to cut to the chase, he did get vaccinated. he did it off camera in secret without saying a word about it, which is pretty remarkable when you consider how willing he is to weigh in on anything, especially his establishments, which this is. it's a puzzlement even to his former members of his covid team. >> the people that follow former president are very committed to president trump, and i think his leadership still matters a great deal. i think it very important for former president trump as well as the vice president to actively encourage all the followers to get the vaccine. >> the doctor is not alone. here is dr. anthony fauci.
>> if he came out and said go and get vaccinated it's really important for your health, the health of your family and the health of the country, it seems absolutely inevitable that the vast majority of people who are his close followers would listen to him. he's such a strongly popular person, i cannot imagine that if he comes out that they would not get vaccinated. it will be very helpful to the effort for that to happen. >> keeping them honest, there is reason to doubt the former president'sfectiveness as a spokesman for getting vaccinated. his own supporters are vaccine skeptical. the entire covid outbreak he politicized public health bad mouthing mask wearing, toting crack cures or leaning on the cdc as a review today as agency guidance suggestions. donald j. trump vaccinated his supporters towards the science and making it perfectly clear this wasn't really a pandemic at all, it was just politics.
>> that's all i hear about now. turn on the television. covid, covid, covid, covid, covid, covid, a plane goes down. 500 people dead. they don't talk about it. covid, covid, covid, covid. by the way, on november 4th you won't hear about it anymore. >> not from him at least. except to complain somehow that vaccine authorization was delayed just to get him, which it wasn't. after that, he checked out completely. now was it because there was no longer anything in it for him? you can decide for yourself, what is indisputable though, he primed tens of millions of americans, one presumes he would have never stopped boasting about were he still sitting in the office today but if the president had a complete change of heart and praised vaccinations to the skies, it is an open question how much sway he holds over former supporters. a notion the current president explored when asked about it today. >> should president trump help promote the vaccine among skeptics, sir?
especially those republicans who say that -- >> i'm hearing a lot of reports from serious reporters like you saying that. i discussed it with my team and they say the thing that has more impact than anything trump would say to the maga folks is what the local doctor, what the local preachers, what the local people in the community say. so i urge, i urge all local docs and ministers and priests to talk about why, why it important to get that vaccine and even after that until everyone is in fact vaccinated to wear this mask. >> others he says and not the former president are better influencers. there was vaccine he sitant trup voters and blame it on doubts about the long term effects of
new vaccines and accuse politicians and government scientists for misleading them but what is interesting, the post reports blame democrats and not the former president for this. at the same time what seemed to thing chair minds the most were not political endorsements of getting vaccinated but more science and more evidence. there is a woman named sue from iowa that went from being about 50/50 on getting a shot to 75% in favor. >> i like the doctors, i like the medical situation when they give us the facts and talk to us without any politics involved. i think that helps me see that my bias was probably with the political side of it, getting involved in just separating the medical side of it. if i can work just with the medical and health side of it, i'm much better off than mixing politics in with it. >> 19 people took part in that group which included republican politicians and former cdc director dr. tom frieden, all 19 came out of it saying they were more likely to get the vaccine
than going in. joining us is dr. tom frieden. thanks for being with us. we heard that group participant said she liked hearing the facts about the vaccines. for you, was that the big take away separating politics from science getting people to trust the vacvaccine? >> it was a really interesting conversation, anderson. this is a group that is strongly protrump. they are -- have a lot of doubts about the vaccine, but they're not people who are totally anti vac and that's how they were selected and they clearly believe that the virus, the vaccine and the response has been politicized and what they wanted is they didn't want to hear from any politicians, not even former president trump. they wanted to hear from doctors, their own doctors and had understandable rational concerns. they wanted to know what's the evidence about the long term health complications of the vaccine? this is a reasonable question, and they wanted to be listened to. i think that's the fundamental
message for each community, we need to listen and figure out both the messages that are going to resonate most and the messengers who will be most effective and el tei'll tell yoe of the most effective messengers are every doctor that offered this vaccine is going to get it. no corners were cut in approving it, only red tape was cut to get it approved quickly and it was not rushed to the market in a year. this is a technology that was more than a decade in the making and the trials were not small. there were tens of thousands of people and not a single person, as far as we know, has died from getting the vaccine. >> dr. fauci said it would be helpful if donald trump encouragers supporters to get the vaccine but president biden said look to community leaders, local doctors to promote it. your focus group, did they care about the former president's opinion on taking the vaccine? >> it was actually somewhat surprising. i think it surprised frank luntz
who organize the whole group. they didn't really want to hear from any politicians. not even former president trump. they wanted to hear from their own doctor and it's so important we get shots into the offices of doctors as soon as the supply gets a little more than it is now. and they want to hear from medical professionals. >> chris christie also spoke during the meeting i understand and talked about his only personal ordeal with covid-19. i wonder if personal and emotional stories have an impact on changing minds? it wasn't so much chris christie's story or getting covid at the white house but his discussion of two family members, one quite healthy that both died from covid. that clearly had an impact. this is one thing that's very important. we need to give honest accurate narratives of what covid does of the death of also the long covid and the suffering it causes because fund mentally, we can't
give you 100% certainty there is not going to be a rare adverse event of this vaccine ten years down the line but we can tell you with 100% certainty that you're much less likely to get covid if you get the vaccine, and if you do get covid, it's going to be replicating all over your body for a week and that you do have a chance of having long-term suffering as a result. >> that was one of the things personally for me was really powerful. i did a piece on "60 haulers, p symptoms when infected and had bad days but they weren't hospitalized, many of them and yet, eight months later, they're still, you know, having trouble walking, having trouble breathing, having brain fog and the like and that for me was a wakeup of, you know, you don't even want to get it and not have symptoms or think you have mild symptoms. we played sound a few minutes
ago from the form er fda tellin cbs this weekend evidence showing vaccinations are reducing asymptomatic transmission. if he's right, that is a huge step toward getting the virus under control. what more do you know about that? >> well, we have better and better news about the vaccine. what you're seeing already in the u.s. is a dramatic decrease in nursing home death and that is undoubtedly an impact of vaccination. already, these vaccines are saving thousands of lives in this country, and that effect is going to get even greater in the coming weeks as vaccine induced immunity kicks in for more and more people who are over the age of 65. so this is making this virus even less lethal and there is growing evidence that it reduces the likelihood that you'll spread the virus to others, but we don't know that yet. it not certain. but i do think that the vaccine is getting the best of the
virus. now, we're not out of the woods. it ain't over until it over. you're seeing explosive spread in europe and parts of latin america. you're seeing variants that can overwhelm the immunity you get from getting the virus infection before so it's really a race of the vaccine against the variants and the more we control the virus, the more we vaccinate, the greater the likelihood that we'll get to a new normal sooner. >> dr. tom frieden, appreciate it. thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up next, republican senator responds to allegations over racism about the january insurrection and also, arrests finally connection with the death of capitol police officer br brian sicknick and pete buttigieg on the relief bill and money going into people's pockets.
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enough self-awareness you can't help but say it. ron johnson is answering to charges of racism in what he said friday about the attack at the capitol and who was behind it, his kind of people. >> i knew those were people that love this country, that truly respect law enforcement; would never do anything to break a law so i wasn't kconcerned. had the tables been turned, joe, this could mean trouble. had the tables been turned and president trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of black lives matter and antifa protesters, i might have been concerned. >> senator ron johnson on friday saying the people that attacked the capitol loved law enforcement. >> there is nothing racial about my comments. nothing whatsoever. this zbisn't about race. it about riots. it's shocking they would take the comment and turn it into use the race card on me and say
there is some kind of racist comment involved in that. there was none. >> joining us now cnn political commentator and state lawmaker bakari sellers. bakari, i'll let you just speak on this because i was just so surprised by -- not surprised by but just irritated by what he just said now to justify what he said previously, the idea that he sees the truth here in his comments and knows that there was nothing racist involved. >> and you know when people are making racist comments, the first thing they want to push back with is simply say you know, you can't play the race card but it our job to call it out. i mean, i'm not surprised but -- and i'm not disappointed anymore. nothing about this is new. this is an american as american can be but i'm troubled because this is coming from the highest part of the land. this is coming from the united states senate, the united states
congress just last week we heard from repgrothman. i go back to carmichael and he once said that if you want to lynch me, that's your problem but if you have the power to lynch me, then that's my problem. racism in this country is a power construct and people like ron johnson have the power and the ability to implement racist policies even when they're ignor ignorant what they are doing is racist. it's not about someone calling you the "n" word. every single day. it's not about that. it's about something more than that. it's about the systemic oppression and the systemic racism and people like ron johnson who play a role in it and are so ignorant to the fact to the role they play they sit there and simply turn their back and say don't play the race
card. we're not playing the race card, senator. we're trying to educate you on the fact -- there is one of two things. either you're using racism as political currency which is coward or you're ignorant and do not know the language you're using is racist and hurtful. it one of those two options. >> you know, and then him using the term, you know, the race card as if it's some sort of game here. >> yeah, and, you know, for me -- if i -- if i had the opportunity to sit down with senator johnson, i would go back and say senator johnson, you know, what this is an ignorance of the history and how far we've come. you know, i would sit down and tell him that the reason that we got the 64 and '65 civil rights act and voting rights act is because of the people brutally beaten on tv for the first time in this country. white folk saw the dogs, water hoses batons, the emit teals,
all of those led to the civil rights act and voting rights act. senator johnson the way we got to the fair housing act of 1968 is because dr. king got asays n -- assassinated. i would say senator johnson, the on reason we're on the cusp in having these discussions about criminal justice reform is because george floyd had a knee in his neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds. what i'm trying to tell you is that there is a great deal of pain in black blood that's flown through the streets of this country to have a semblance of political change. i think he needs to understand the history of this country so when you make comments like it's okay for these white boys to come in here with confederate flags and antis-semitic rhetoric and beat police officers and murder a cop but if there is somebody black standing up for what they believe to be right and just, saying that we need to
stop being killed in the street, you want the national guard called on them. see, that's the problem. and it's not people who use ignorant rhetoric. it people in power that implement racist policies, that's why i have a problem with grothman and ron johnson. >> he's also rewriting history. he looks at the crowd that attacked the capitol, he's not scared of them he aleleges because he knows they are good people who love this country and love law enforcement. i mean, there are hundreds of people that have been arrested, you know, and numerous police officers who have been injured. one police officer lost their life, two other have died but suicide. i mean, it's a complete rewrite of what happened. >> it's a rewrite of what happened but it american history. just think about ron johnson being more sympathetic to cop-killers and anti semitists and people carrying confederate
flags than black folk protesting. but it not just about ron johnson. that's what i'm trying to tell folk. when we talk about systemic oppression. imagine the ron johnson that works at wells fargo who is your loan officer and looks at you as less valuable than a white guy who comes in there or imagine ron johnson as your professor or teacher who looks at you asless intelligent or police officer that pulls you over on the side of the road who thinks you're more of a danger than a white boy. see, that is what we're talking about when we talk about this systemic injustice but ron johnson creates the laws. we got to call it out and push back and i wish he would instead of doubling down which is what trump got us, i wish he would simply try to educate himself on the ignorance and the statements that he makes. i know he's retiring but there is still time to do better and maybe that's my youthful eye. i still believe that ron johnson can be a better man than he displayed last friday.
>> bakari sellers, appreciate it. to the point we come to learn two of the allegedly police loving men have been arrested and charged with assaulting officer brian sickni ck who die. what do we know about these two men? this has been a long time coming. police are looking for how he died and who killed him? >> this is a top priority for the fbi and these two men, they're facing nine counts including assault on -- >> that's officer sicknick, that's the picture of officer sicknick. >> they are charged with assault on sicknick and two additional officers according to the fbi, the affidavit from the fbi in court today. they are seen in video on surveillance video as well as some of the body worn camera
images they were able to retrieve using a spray, some chemical irritant. >> there is a red rectangle over one of them and i guess the other one is the guy in the hat off to the right hand side. >> right. and the guy in the hat appears to be tanios. he owns a sandwich shop in west virginia for the fbi he wore a shirt that has the logo of the sandwich shop that he runs and so what you see in some of these images, anderson, is the attack, according to the fbi in which they are using some kind of chemical irritant spray. i'm told that's some kind of bear spray. i'll read what the fbi says in the affidavit. the officers sickni ck, chapman and the other are standing near and react one by one to something striking them in the face. they retreat from the line,
bring their hands to their faces and rush to find water to washout their eyes. this is what happened according to the capitol police. officer sickni kck goes back to his office and becomes ill taken to the hospital and dies the following day. you might ask why aren't these men being charged with murder? at this point i'm told that investigators are still waiting for the final medical examiner's report to show cause of death and so we may yet see additional charges. >> evan perez, appreciate it. thank you. let get sperspective from julia. investigators still waiting for the final medical report, which is one reason we haven't seen charges. can prosecutors add the murder charge if the two men arrested for assault were charged with the death? >> absolutely. it was smart to start with assault and work their way because with the arrests, maybe family friends will come forward and tell the police what they
know. one piece of evidence that has come out that is being reported is in the affidavit is they also knew each other before they got there. they were childhood friends, i believe. so there is going to be social media conversations or emails between the two of them what their intent was. was it just to go to the rally for donald trump? that seems hard to believe given they have this bear spray or was it to inflict bodily harm and on whom? this case will unfold quickly and also unfold more dramatically. >> come to washington january 6th and brought bear spray is wild. more than 300 people have been charged in connection so far with the assault. the department of justice says the figure could pass 400. does the focus remain on those who took part in the assault or is there also conspiracy angled to this? >> the conspiracy charges continue. they're not showing themselves to be very strong and there are so many cases it's hard to say
there is a general theme. it seems like the conspiracy theory everyone agreed to go with donald trump, honestly and then they meet and organize. there may be conspiracies among people. that's the way it goes. 300 isn't enough in my book. i've been saying look, there is a connected tissue from what bar kcar -- bakari said to here. the racism and semitism. >> walking about a navy base with a hitler mustache. >> exactly. good intexntintentions, i'm sur. the racism that animates from this crowd to essentially what johnson, what senator johnson is saying. i adore bakari sellers but ron johnson knows exactly what he's doing. this is a party now and we know
it because of all the efforts that they're doing to minimize or to undermine voting rights. this is a party now that is aligned itself with the strategic effort to essentially deny the vote and put into question the votes that had already occurred. those votes that they look at are not white votes as ron johnson made clear w. it's the african american votes and hispanic votes. you think about the connective tissue about what you're writing or these cases. the connected tissue is white supremacy and racism and just that's why every single one of these cases matters because the goal now is to stop recruitment and the more that these folks go to jail, that they are shamed and isolated and that we have a president who doesn't nurture racism but condemns it. a look at the hundreds of
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as groups in georgia are launching a campaign to persuade corporations base there had to oppose restrictions by republican lawmakers. on sunday, georgia democrat stacey abrams caused the proposals reducts of jim crow in a suit and tie. that's a cute. according to the center for justice, there are some of more than 250 bills state lawmakers introduced nationwide to restrict voting rights. joining us are chief national correspondent john king and bakari sellers. start with john at the magic wall. how strong are the propose the voting restrictions laws? >> the proposals are everywhere how the states voted in the presidential election. 43 states. 43 states. in 43 states more than 200 proposals again are not all going to become law but some of them already have and some will and they have a common theme. they are being pushed by republicans and the legacy of the big lie. y you have republicans in state after state after state saying the problem is not that more people voted in 2020 but so much fraud. that's a lie.
it a legacy of the trump lie but it happening coast-to-coast. there is one way to look at it through the states and the deeper the green, the more proposals in that state. 15 proposals in arizona a dozen or so in texas. they're state legislatures. they're not all going to become law and csand consequences are enormous. texas will gain two or three seats and arizona is going to gain a seat and governor's races in florida, texas, iowa and beyond. this is a huge deal. >> what kind of restrictions are retalking about? >> follow the pattern. different in every state. the iowa restrictions are actually law. the republican governor signed them. it reduces the number of early voting days from 29 to 20. fewer opportunities to vote. the closest place is an hour earlier on election day. harder to vote. newer restrictions on absentee vote. in the state of georgia this is still the legislature but eligibility for absentee voting.
notice the pattern. notice the use of mobile or drop boxes. very important for democrats. you need a court order to extend polling places and i.d. requirements and legislature has the authority to block emergency powers. look at texas and prohibits early voting in tents and garages. that's harris county, houston, reaching out into commune 'tis -- communities of color. fines for officials if they don't purge the voting rules. seeks to limit and standardized early voting. everywhere you look it's transparent. republicans are pushing proposals that would restrict voting in areas where democrats do well. there is no other way to look at it. >> people said politicians lie. this is a big lie and the rip -- these are the ripple effects of the big lie. i mean, it's legislation is now being proposed in all these states based on a lie. >> yeah, but anderson, i want to be clear and i believe john knows this, as well. these things didn't just start popping up recently.
this is an effort that goes back to 2008 after the election of barack obama. when i was in the general assembly, we were probably the second or third state to implement voter id laws after the state of indiana which made it more difficult for individuals to actually go to the polls and cast their ballot. it's not just about having an identification card, it about having a state issued identification card not allowing people to use college ids or utility bills or anything else. you're starting to see this trend across the country, it's come to ahead and they are targeting black and brown communities. anderson, we should be having a discussion how to make it easier to vote. why don't we vote on saturday? why isn't voting a national holiday? why do we have 30 days of no excuse absentee voting with multiple drop boxes in every single county so everybody who wants to vote has an opportunity to vote? republicans saw what is it 160 million people come out to vote or nearly 160 million people? and they completely lost their mind. so i think that we have to do a better job of allowing as many
people as possible to participate in a democratic process, not shrink the numbers. we're not having a conversation how to expand the electric, we're having a conversation how to shrink it. >> after an election that had historic turnout which is actually a good thing. it democracy at work. bakari, the u.s. house just passed a bill that would protect voting rights on the national level and entails a lot of voting access expansions that helped president biden win in 2020. where does that stand in the senate? i mean, the likelihood of it passing is, what, in the senate? >> i mean, well, the senate -- i joke and say that the senate has bills piling up in front fits door like my wife has amazon boxes in front of the door when i come home. they aren't doing much. they are stacking and stacking and stacking. the fact is, if we do not pass this voting rights bill, this john lewis voting rights bill, then democrats will not win elections for the remainder of the decade.
point blank period. you know, it's very clear. i mean, we know that the republican party has gutted the voting rights act. we know that there are no protections in place to prevent against the discriminatory bills that are being circulated across the country. without this, there are no checks and balances and i know kirsten cinema and joe mansion have a fundamental problem with eliminating the filibuster but this is an issue of democracy and justice and that bill must pass chuck schumer. >> john, what's the likelihood, you think. >> the prospects are bleak today, anderson. bakari raise as question point. if more legislations and states pass this legislation, this will become a republican power play in 2022 and the pressure will be on president biden, vice president harris and democratic leaders to get to the gnat and change the filibuster rules for this one piece of legislation because it's such a fundamental piece of the democratic party and bakari is right, in the
days after signing into law president biden and his administration begun a massive publicity blitz to emphasize the relief they believe the law will bring. >> over the next ten days, we will reach two goals, two giant goals. the first is 100 million shots in people's arms will have been completed within the next ten days and 100 million checks in people's pockets. >> as we mentioned earlier, vice president harris and her husband as well as jill biden were out today at separate events with the president scheduled to appear in pennsylvania and atlanta with the vice president. before air i spoke with transportation secretary put buttigieg who talked about the impact they believe this recovery act will have on the lives of everyday americans.
secretary buttigieg, the president and vice president are out there this week to really sell the stimulus plan to the public. there may be 100 million checks given to americans in the next ten days. there is $1.9 trillion attached to the bill. how do you ensure americans it's worth the cost? >> americans already believe it worth the cost. that's why this say bill with so much bipartisan support. now, of course, it was bipartisan support among the american people, not much on capitol hill but the american people don't need convincing that this is worth doing. i do think it appropriate for us to take some time right now to remind everybody of what is just been achieved and what to expect. the $1400 checks going to families. things i care about here in the department of transportation like su suring up the transit agencies in smaller communities and rural areas, too. the news that flight attendants were told they can tear up furlough notices among the many jobs that have been saved and
what this is going to do for poverty, cutting child poverty in half and middle class by reducing health premiums. there is a lot of good measures that were taken and, you know, the president said from day one the biggest risk was doing too little and not doing too much. we think we've done just what it takes to get through this dark season that america has experienced. >> there is billions of dollars going to transit in this bill. what is the future in terms of transp transportation? people right now are obviously not using public transportation as much as they did before the pandemic. is there longer term solution to keeping these industries viable or do you think they'll return back the way it was? >> well, i think the rescue plan has gotten us through this moment or i should say it will as we go out and implement it, another thing the president has been clear on today we still have to do a good job of getting those resources out to where they need to be but that was step one. now we're ready to work in earnest on step two and that is that long term vision for transportation in america.
look, everybody knows that our roads, our bridges, our infrastructure from ports to you name it needs a lot of work. we got to fix what we have and we got to build for the future and the future is not going to look like the past. >> according to the tsa, more americans traveled by air in the last four days than any four-day period in the pandemic. are we ready to return to traveling like we did before the pandemic? >> well, this is still not a time to travel just because and the cdc has encouraged people to obviously check the cdc website think twice before traveling if you don't have to. but we're also taking measures to make sure that travel is safe. the president's executive order clarified what needed to be done in terms of mask mandates and by the way, really think it very important for passengers whether you're on an aircraft or for that matter a bus across town to pay attention to and respect that mask machndate and not put flight attendants or bus operators or others in the position of having to tell you
or require you to do what everybody ought to be doing, which is to keep yourself and others safe. >> do you want to see the cdc updating their travel guidance soon? they've said that they likely will. >> yeah, we want to be traveling more as soon as it's safe. now, the cdc is in charge of making a science based determination based on the medical facts about when that will come but i'm among the many americans who feels that urge to get out to travel to see people that we care about to be able to travel for work more and more and yet we know that we should do that only when it responsible. >> the white house today said that they'd welcome the support of the former president promoting the vaccine. how far do you think that message would go among republicans, obviously, he and his wife were vaccinated but didn't mention it and publicize it at all. >> it can't hurt. the more people are getting that message out, the better. it would be a reminder that this isn't about politics.
that said, i think most people listen most to people in their own lives. so especially in communities that are more conservative, wouldn't do something just because they felt like one party or one president was asking him to do it. talk to your doctor. talk to people in your life who are knowledgeable about medicine and they will tell you what people without regard to politics are saying which is this vaccine is safe and the best way to protect yourself, your family and those you love. >> and just lastly, we need to ask about the allegations about governor andrew cuomo. president biden on sunday called them troubling and quote hard to read. a number of democrats like chuck schumer called on cuomo to resign. do you think he can govern if he lost support of democrats in his state? >> these allegations are really disturbing. they are serious and they need to be investigated, as they are. and that investigation of course, is underway. >> serkcretary buttigieg,
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the administration tonight is facing pressure from both sides, and in a moment, i will talk to texas democratic congressman who is calling the situation crisis. there is no question the number of migrants is way up. cnn has learned more than 4,000 children are in border patrol custody, and a memo obtained by cnn, the administration plans to use a convention center in dallas to hold 2,000 teenagers, congressman, thanks for being with us. you flollow the policies of the obama and trump administrations closely. do you attribute the surge in biden? >> no, i don't. i called the white house a week of inauguration, and i said,
this is what we see on the ground. if you look at the numbers, they started coming up in august of 2020, and of course, october and november, december, january were high numbers. those are all under trump. and of course february was bigger, over 100,000. you have to remember that march, april, may and june are the peak months so we will see big numbers. >> in terms of the messaging we have seen from biden so far, he hasn't spoken at length on the issue. do you this i that biden needs to be clear in telling migrants the border is not open? >> well, look, with all due respect, the message has to be clearer in central america. there are three messages, one from the president saying don't come. the other is the family friends network. they get over here and tell
friends and family, i was able to come through. and the other one is the aggressive marketing that the criminal organizations doo. this friday, i was there and i talked to some of the people that had come across. there were about 20 of them. i asked which message they heard? they never heard from the president. they heard from friends and neighbors, and they were getting recruited by people to come over across. so it has to be a strong message because with all due respect, the administration's message is not coming through. that is the reality of it. >> the house republican leader kevin mccarthy and others visited el paso today. i want to play it. >> it's more than a crisis. this is a human thing. the sad part about it, it didn't have to happen. all because the policies of
president changed and told them something different. told them to risk their lives, and broke families apart. >> what did you make of what you heard from kevin mccarthy? >> it was expected. because they focus only on the pull factor and not the push factor. what happens in central america. in january of this, 8% of the encounters we had were unaccompanied kids. unaccompanied kids. when you look at the family units, maybe it's 10%. the rest are single adults. and the single adults, they are returned on title 42, a 1944 law that trump started using again. go back to may, may, may of 2019, we had a crisis where 61% of the people coming across were family units. now, that was a crisis.
the only thing, which makes it difficult is just the fact we're in the middle of the the pandemic. but if you look at the reality, the real numbers, this doesn't compare to what happened in may of 2019, which is of course around president trump. those are the numbers. i don't care what people say. those are the numbers. and the reality. >> congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> coming up, the trial of the minneapolis police officer in the death of george floyd moves ahead, they ask for a delay in the proceedings. we'll explain ahead. testing them and fermenting. fermenting? yeah like kombucha or yogurt. and we formulate everything so your body can really truly absorb the natural goodness. that's what we do, so you can do you. new chapter wellness, well done. i'm erin. -and i'm margo.
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on demand. the news continues right now, let's hand it over to chris for cuomo prime time. >> all right, anderson. happy monday. we do have good news. the vaccine is making its way around the country. the rate is accelerating and the effectiveness is solid even against the variants. but look within the numbers. we see a clear indication of what is also making us sick. toxic opposition. look who does not want the vaccine. look at the number on your screen. trump's main base of support. why? no number, i promise you it's there. we're doing a whole segment on it tonight. they have within 40% of the number of republican men. 41% don't want to take the