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millions of americans in economic need. he's set to sign two more executive orders today to provide more assistance to those struggling in this pandemic. and today here is where we stand. the death toll, 410,000 people in this country have died from covid, but dr. anthony fauci tells cnn this morning that number could have been lower if the trump administration had been more honest about the virus. >> he said straight out lives could have been saved. fauci untethered now from fears of repercussions for simply telling the truth. he laid out the facts on vaccines today. we have the latest on all those headlines, what it means for you. and we're following the latest on capitol hill. house democrats reportedly in discussions to hand over the article of impeachment against the former president trump to the senate. mitch mcconnell, however, is pushing to move the timeline on a trial back at least a couple of weeks. he says the senate should give
former president trump's legal team those weeks to prepare. we're following all the angles. let's begin at the white house. jeremy diamond is on the north lawn this morning. jeremy, tell us about these executive actions, how far they extend, and what the intention is here. on the minimum wage, is that just meant to apply to the federal government or a first step toward something broader? >> president biden came into office facing these twin crises brought on by the coronavirus pandemic. the health crisis and then the economic crisis. yesterday on his first full day in office we saw him focus on that health crisis, with ten executive orders aimed at stemming the coronavirus pandemic and ramping up distribution of vaccines and other critical materials. today we're seeing him focus on the economic crisis. the first of which is going to be on food assistance. increasing food assistance to hungry americans. more than 40 million americans currently considered food insecure and so you're going to
see him increase the s.n.a.p. benefits and increase the assistance to those who could normally get free school meals. then the second executive order, which is what you were talking about there, jim, is laying the groundwork for a $15 minimum wage. this is not something that's going to happen immediately, but it is directing the government to begin the process of preparing for that within the first 100 days. biden intends to sign an executive order that would increase the minimum wage for federal workers and federal contractors to $15 an hour. he will also be today revoking executive orders signed by president trump which stripped key civil service protections for federal workers. that made it easier to fire them. biden will be rescinding those measures imposed by president trump. but one thing to be clear here today, and i think this is a point that president biden will emphasize this afternoon as he signs these executive orders is that ultimately executive action
is one thing. but what this administration is really looking for is that $1.9 trillion stimulus package. and for that, of course, he'll need the help of congress and more specifically, the help of some republicans. >> a number of whom have said $1.9 trillion is not going to happen. jeremy, thanks. let's bring in christine romans on that point. your reaction to the executive orders and also, you know, i don't know if you have a warning for people listening but remember what happened when congress bungled, you know, the last rescue during the great recession at first, it was not good. >> no, we have recent memory of not doing enough quickly, and it really held back the recovery. that's the warning here for congress. don't wait until the spring on this here. in the meantime, you have the new administration doing what it can do to move the levers of government to try to make things easier for people. in the white house documents here this morning, the word equity or equality is a dozen times in there. they are trying to make sure the people hurt the hardest get the
help they need. that is those food benefits, really important there. also some va relief, veterans relief super important and also it tells the department of labor, look, if somebody doesn't feel safe, if somebody is unemployed and they don't feel safe accepting a job somewhere that looks like they could get coronavirus, they should be able to get unemployment benefits. that's been a big issue in some states. that's paving the way to help families, especially frontline families stay safe here. trying to use the levers of government that they can to get some more relief there while we wait for congress to act on a bigger package. >> talking about a bigger package, certainly disagreements over that, particularly on direct payment checks. president biden wants $1400 payments. in effect adding the $600 to the previous to get to the $2,000 figure that even some republicans expressed support for. what impact could that have? >> well, right now you're starting to hear people talk about targeted relief. they don't want to necessarily
be spending borrowed money to someone who doesn't need it, right? so people who are working, for example. find a bay to target that relief. that's something you've heard from senator manchin and moderates who want to target the relief better. some are worried about the size. $1.9 trillion. look, we need more relief. and we have the recent memory of going too slow and going too small and it held back the recovery from the financial crisis. so that is really what the worry here is, is that you're going to repeat some of those mistakes that we've had before. but the white house this morning very clear here with some accurate numbers. 10 million jobs lost. 14 million renters are behind. 29 million adults are food insecure. 8 million children. this is a real problem for the right now. we can see when vaccines take hold. we can see a recovery in the future. but right now there needs to be a bridge, and it's pretty critical here. >> we know you'll be on top of it. christine, thanks very much. president biden could meet with congressional leaders as
early as today to discuss his legislative agenda, including discussions on stimulus. standing in the way of that, however, and the start of the impeachment trial, power-sharing talks between senate majority leader chuck schumer and minority leader mom. they still have a lot of stuff to work out. >> they do. but the standoff could leave everything hanging in the balance. let's go to our capitol hill reporter lauren fox. good morning to you. it's an interesting power play attempt by mcconnell here. what are democrats going to do? are they really going to fight over this filibuster stuff and not have a power-sharing agreement soon? >> there's obviously a lot going on this morning in the u.s. senate. and this is really a test, a first test of the new relationship between majority leader chuck schumer and the now minority leader mitch mcconnell. the roles have been reversed, and they have a lot to work out. the first thing, of course, is whether or not and how to share this new 50-50 senate. the senate always has an
organizing resolution. it sets up who is going to lead each committee. how much the budgets are, et cetera. usually it's not controversial. but what we have here, essentially, is the minority leader, mitch mcconnell, trying to insist that he gets in writing a promise that democrats aren't going to blow up the filibuster. now, look, democrats don't have the votes to blow up the filibuster right now. there are plenty of moderate democrats who don't think that's the right move for legislation. however, you don't have a majority leader who wants to put that in writing right now given the fact he doesn't know what republicans are going to do to object to new president biden's agenda. that's what's on the agenda when it comes to the power-sharing agreement. the broader discussion is when is the senate impeachment trial going to begin? the minority leader mitch mcconnell sent an offer yesterday arguing this should be delayed by a couple of weeks. democrats aren't completely
saying no to that in part because they see an opportunity potentially to get more of biden's nominees through the senate in the upcoming days. you can expect that they are not going to just agree to postpone the trial and give former president trump more time to get his arguments together unless they get a substantial agreement, some give and take, from republicans on the nominee side of things. so a lot to work out this morning. a lot that we don't know, but we'll keep you posted, of course, as things continue to unfold. >> lauren, nancy pelosi has said that the stimulus package could be ready by february 1st. i wonder, is there a realistic chance that democrats and republicans could work to get a stimulus package passed before the start of a senate trial? given as we discussed, there's still disagreements about how big that is. >> i think that's still an outstanding question. we heard yesterday from senator susan collins. she's a moderate republican from the state of maine. and she said, look, we just passed more than $900 billion stimulus package. i'm not sure we need a $1.9
trillion package right this second. so that gives you a sense of what an uphill climb it is to get some republicans on board. now i have new reporting this morning talking to some democratic september and house aides that essentially democrats are laying the ground work that if they can't get republicans to sign on in a quick manner, they could be prepared to move forward with an arcane legislative procedure that we call up here reconciliation. essentially what it does is it gives democrats some limited ability to pass some legislation that affects the budget with just a simple majority. so they are eyeing that process. it's complicated. it's tough. but it's an option for them if they can't win over republicans fast enough. >> just to be clear on that, lauren. if they do that, you are saying they could conceivably pass a big stimulus package with just 50 votes plus the vp under reconciliation? >> essentially that's exactly right, jim. what exactly fits in that is unclear. it's a tough process. >> understood. >> really important point. lauren, thank you so much for
that. president biden is ramping up his administration's response to the covid pandemic. and dr. anthony fauci this morning really opening up about his time in the trump white house. listen. >> did the lack of candor, did the lack of facts in some cases over the last year cost lives? >> you know, it very likely did. i don't want that, john, to be a sound bite, but i think if you just look at that, you can see that when you are starting to go down paths that are not based on any science at all, and we've been there before. i don't want to rehash it. that is not helpful at all. >> might have cost lives. we're now learning the cdc did not move quickly enough to catch potentially dangerous coronavirus mutations. we've seen a lot of them. cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins us with more. okay. so this is yet one more problem for the new administration to try to get a handle on. what's the plan?
>> yeah, president biden has been very clear, he said, even before he was inaugurated, we need to improve this surveillance system for catching mutations of the coronavirus. the uk does a great job at it. the u.s. needs to catch up. let's take a look at what the goal was. the cdc set a goal for itself to increase genetic sequencing. that's how you look for these mutations. by an additional 3,500 sequences per week. instead what was achieved was an additional 2250 to 2650 depending on how you count it. obviously, that's not 3,500. they did not achieve that goal but they are moving, they say, full speed ahead. they've got private labs involved now in the effort. but let's take a look at where it stands now. the u.s. is 33rd in the world in terms of genetic sequencing per cases per week. 33rd. so places like sierra leone, senegal, those places are ahead of us, even though we, of
course, have far more resources. jim, poppy? >> wow. >> elizabeth, the cdc is changing their guidance. and this blew me away. but they're actually saying you can mix match vaccines? so does that mean you can get one pfizer dose and the second dose can be moderna, for example? >> you know, if you really have to. that's i think the impression that tony fauci left when he talked about this. if you have to, he and everyone else wants us to do it the way the fda authorized it, which is you get either moderna or pfizer and you wait the prescribed amount of time. so three to four weeks depending upon which one you get. but he also knows this is a very unusual situation and this may be the one time that authorities say, you know, you don't have to go by what the fda says because this is such a difficult time. let's take a listen to what dr. fauci had to say on this. >> sometimes the situation is stressed where it's very difficult to be exactly on time.
so we're saying you can probably do it six weeks later, namely, two additional weeks. quite frankly, immunologically, i don't think that's going to make a big difference. >> so again, try to do it the way the fda says, but if you can't, he's offering these options. if you have to. jim, poppy? >> yet one more challenge to vaccinations. vaccine hesitancy. these are people reluctant to or refuse to take the vaccine when offered. walgreens said up to 80% of staff at long-term -- some long-term care facilities outright declined covid-19 vaccines. and i wonder how broadly we're seeing this problem right now. >> yes, i was speaking with a walgreens executive, and she told me that. for some 20% decline, for some 80% decline. even 20% is a huge number. these are people who are taking care of the frailest elderly. and that's very, very disappointing to hear.
walgreens said their pharmacists did their best, explained why the vaccine is so effective and is safe. and sometimes they succeeded, but sometimes they didn't. so moving forward, there really has to be a plan. i think these folks are a little bit of a snapshot of at least one segment of american society. there needs to be a plan for how to better educate them. >> no question. elizabeth cohen, let's hope the facts break through that. thanks so much. still to come -- senator mitch mcconnell making a play to exert as much power as possible in his new, and i imagine, uncomfortable role as minority leader. will it work? we're going to speak to the incoming number two in the democrati democratic senate leadership next. plus, national guard troops sleeping in a parking garage. look at that. after they were told they could no longer use space in the u.s. capitol complex. one guardsman says they feel betrayed. and capitol police are investigating after a lawmaker was discovered carrying a gun while attempting to go on the
this morning, the timing of former president trump's impeachment trial further in doubt. speaker pelosi said the house is ready to begin the trial but will wait for the senate to signal it is ready for sending over the article of impeachment. that's when this officially kicks off. if it comes, as senate democrats aren't ruling out senate minority leader mitch mcconnell's most recent proposal, that is to delay the trial until mid-february or so to give trump's legal team a couple of weeks to prepare. joining me to discuss this and many other questions before the senate, democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. he's the incoming judiciary chairman, big role, and the majority whip. thanks for taking the time this
morning. >> thanks, jim. >> on that proposed delay of two weeks for the senate trial, are you open to that idea? do you support it? >> i can tell you the priority, of course, is to make sure the biden administration has their team in place. we feel a sense of urgency with the pandemic that's hit america. we can't get this economy back on its feet, our kids back in school until we take control of the situation. distribute the vaccine. make sure people are being part of the solution to the problem, not just the traditional means, but using the vaccine as a way to protect america. >> so if you can, get, for instance, cabinet picks approved through this senate, would you say okay, let's let the trial slide for a couple of weeks? >> i think that's the first priority, the biden team. secondly is the covid relief package by the president. that really is important. there's money in there for logistics for this vaccine. we can have the best vaccine in the world but if it doesn't get
in the arms of americans, it's not going to do its job. >> realistically, could you if there were a two-week delay, not just get cabinet picks approved but get a stimulus package through? nancy pelosi says she could have it all ready by february 1st. >> i can tell you that's a high priority. whether we can achieve it that quickly in the senate with a 50-50 split remains to be seen. we still need an organizing resolution which means senator schumer and mcconnell have to agree on the basics. how many members on each of the committees and what's the split between the two parties and the procedure that will be followed. that needs to be done. there's a sense of importance and urgency on that. i want to get down to business in the senate judiciary committee. we want a hearing on domestic terrorist groups, the kind that invaded the capitol on january 6th. and a lot of other issues very f timely. >> one of the sticking points is the question of the filibuster. if you can't come to agreement with mitch mcconnell and the
republicans, would you and the majority leader schumer be willing to go to reconciliation to get stimulus passed? >> i'm not ruling that out. but, in fact, that may be the avenue we follow. a more important approach would be to see if there is bipartisan support for passing the measure initially. it's a 50-50 senate. we can't pass anything. the republicans can't pass anything without bipartisanship. if we can establish that early on, i think it will make a difference. i'm in a group of 16 senators, eight democrats and eight republicans that moved the $908 billion covid relief package that passed a couple of weeks ago. there's a sense there that we want to be more productive and work together and have actual floor debate that means something to the american people. >> on the issue of the filibuster, you, majority leader schumer, believe that democrats should not make a written commitment to take that off the table. as you know, there's division within your own caucus. joe manchin, kyrsten sinema have
spoken out against it. i'm curious. are you concerned that mitch mcconnell will hold your legislative agenda hostage in effect if you don't grant ground on this? >> listen, this is a question of whether or not there's a good faith effort to pass legislation. it isn't just about the filibuster. it's about whether or not members of the senate are willing to come together, democrats and republicans, and say, we'll produce 60 votes. we'll get something done here. if we find ourselves at loggerheads and impossible to move forward because of the filibuster, there's a real frustration. the american people have the sense of urgency. president biden has that sense of urgency. i hope the members of the senate have the same. >> on another question, there is a push now among seven democratic senators to push an ethics complaint against senators ted cruz and josh hawley for their role in inciting the riot on capitol hill. they are both -- both those
senators targeted are on the judiciary committee with you. you were not among the seven who signed this letter. do you support this ethics complaint? >> i think this is the right venue. the ethics committee is a committee evenly divided between democrats and republicans in the united states senate that really considers very fundamental issues about the conduct of members of the senate. i think that referring this to the ethics committee was the right thing to do. >> final question. i'm sure you were as alarmed as all of us were by seeing those images of u.s. national guardsmen and women kicked out of federal buildings, the capitol, and having to sleep in parking lots. are you investigating why this happened and what's going to be done to fix it? >> i don't want to go out on a limb but whatever blockhead in the united states senate decided the national guard has to sleep in the parking garage should be sleeping in the parking garage himself tonight. >> good line. and i think a lot of americans
of both parties probably agree with that. senator dick durbin. hope we can keep up the conversation. >> thanks a lot, jim. well, capitol police this morning are investigating after a lawmaker was found to carry a gun while attempting to get on the house floor. you are not allowed to do that. details, next. an existing custor and i'd like your best new smartphone deal. oh do ya? actually it's for both new and existing customers. i feel silly. but i do want the fastest 5g network. oh i want the fastest 5g network. are we actually doing this again? it's not complicated. only at&t gives everyone the same great deal. like the samsung galaxy s21 5g for free when you trade in.
dick durbin told me, who is the blockhead who made that decision? >> that's a good question. with some answers, our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. good morning. horrible optics. horrible they had to do it. why did it even happen in the first place? >> you know, you have to ask where the lack of common sense was in all of this. even the senate majority leader chuck schumer understanding the political optics, visiting the national guardsmen. we have video of that a short time ago. the political optics absolutely terrible for congress. what happened was hundreds of national guardsmen who had been taking their rest breaks inside the capitol grounds in buildings at the capitol grounds like the visitors center were suddenly moved, banished, and sent to a nearby parking garage. and that's when the pictures emerged of them sleeping on the floor of a parking garage during their rest break. so, look, all three of us can only imagine.
it's cold. the fumes from automobiles having parked in there. the oil slicks on the floor. the lack of bathroom facilities. you can go on and on. this quickly became, you know, within minutes a political scandal for congress. many from both parties weighing in saying that this was just a terrible thing and that these guardsmen needed to be respected and they were, in fact, moved back into the capitol complex for their rest breaks. so where do we stand now? there were 25,000 national guard in the nation's capital for national security. many are headed home now. some will stay in the vicinity of the capitol while security arrangements continue to be solidified. right now a heavy dose of common sense about not putting people on floors of parking garages when it's not necessary. the national guard is a rugged
bunch. they know if they're going to disaster relief, hurricane katrina floods, wildfires, they do their work and they can sleep anywhere, but in this case, it seemed like a real lack of common sense to send them into a parking garage when congress was across the street. >> one thing during a hurricane when you need to. when you have other options, makes no sense. >> barbara starr, thanks, as always, from the pentagon. sources tell cnn that u.s. capitol this police are investigating whether republican congressman andy harris tried to bring a concealed gun onto the house floor yesterday. >> lawmakers are allowed to carry firearms in the halls of congress and on capitol grounds but not on the floor. new metal detectors were put in place after the deadly capitol hill riots, for good reason. jessica schneider joins us with more. first question is why, but then what happened here? >> the why question, jim, remains to be answered but this was the first time since metal
detectors were set up outside the chamber last week that a member of congress has tried to enter with a firearm. there are now cries from some members of congress that this is exactly why they are somewhat distrustful of their republican colleagues. a capitol official was telling us it was congressman andy harris of maryland who set off the metal detector. an officer discovered he was carrying a concealed gun on his side after he set off the metal detector. so the officer sent the congressman away, but in a weird twist, congressman harris asked another republican member right next to him to hold his gun, but that congressman did refuse. congressman harris left the area and returned without his gun. the rules are very clear here. members of congress can carry firearms in the hallways of congress as long as they have licenses in washington. they carry ammunition separately. but they're never allowed to bring guns onto the house floor.
we weeched out to congressman harris' office. they did not return our calls for comment. republicans have been in an uproar ever since these metal detectors were installed last week. but it's because these other members say they're distrustful of their colleagues after the january 6th insurrection. they are concerned about potentially firearms on the floor which appears to be exactly what might have happened yesterday if those metal detectors hadn't stopped the congressman. so a lot of questions this morning and we still haven't heard from the congressman himself about this. >> i mean, imagine during the riot, the rioters could have disarmed the congressman. a whole host of questions that arise from that. >> president biden is setting his sights today on helping the millions of americans struggling financially because the pandemic. how could his new executive actions and stimulus plan help you? we'll have more details.
confronting dueling pandemic crises. a health one and an economic one. millions are still struggling every day to make ends meet. and now the president is pushing a huge $1.9 trillion stimulus proposal. it's three times more than what we saw during the great recession in terms of just the t.a.r.p. money. is it the right plan for the moment, though? let's dissect it. larry summers is here, former director of the national economic council and it's really good to have you. good morning. >> poppy, i'm really glad to be with you. i'm really glad that we're in a new era with president biden. and i'm really glad that we have got a government that is focused on helping people who are suffering and left behind. and i think overall, the right message is the one president biden is sending. that we're at much more risk of
doing too little too restart the economy, to help those who have been left behind and, above all, to invest in our future. the risks of doing too little are much bigger than the risks of doing too much. that said, i would like to see -- i would like to see us pivoting more quickly to where i know the president is going to go, which is to building back better. if you look at the proposal as it's been put forward, if it was literally enacted into law, household incomes in total would be well more than a trillion dollars greater than they would have been if covid had never happened. and the proposal is way
disproportionately tilted as it should be to those in the lower part of the income distribution. and for them, it's quite likely that their incomes will be as much as a third grader than they would have been on pre-covid trends. so i'm all for the redistribution. i am all for targeted support, but when i look at the ways in which public schools are inadequate in this country, when i look at decaying infrastructure, when i look at the way we're lagging china in important areas in science, i'd like to make absolutely certain that we are building back better. >> so it sounds like -- >> as the president-elect emphasized in his campaign. >> it sounds to me like you're saying, because a month ago, not even, that you said the idea of
$2,000 stimulus checks that are not targeted, which they're not right now, it's just under a certain income threshold, that those are bad economics and would be a serious mistake. that sounds like a pretty significant message from someone who worked in two democratic administrations to this new democratic administration saying they need to rethink this. change who they go to. make them more targeted? >> i would like to see the $2,000 checks more targeted, even more, i'd like to see the focus be on programs like unemployment insurance, programs like the food stamps that the president-elect is going to be talking about today. on support for the people who are the lower slash in the k-shaped recovery and i'd like to see them hurry towards the build back better agenda that the vice president spoke about -- vice president then,
president today -- spoke about during his campaign. look, our overwhelming problem is that people are being left behind. but we can't solve what's fundamentally like from an economic point of view like a year-long snowstorm or a year-long hurricane. >> but isn't it maybe -- >> just by giving people money. so first -- >> i -- >> first overwhelming priority is getting the disease behind us. that's why i'm so excited about the things the president-elect talked about yesterday. >> i agree with you that the check doesn't solve it all. sorry to step on you there. there's a delay in audio. i apologize for that, secretary summers, but my question, though is what you bring up and that is this issue of scarring. of the job market. this long-term and permanent job loss that even fed chairman powell said is going to come from this. like some of these jobs will
just never come back. so to address that, what do you make of a universal basic income proposal? we're even seeing andrew yang who ran for president, now running for mayor of new york city, think that that is a big part of a solution. is it time for a universal basic income in america? >> i don't think so. i think it's much more time for universal job availability. look, we've got seniors not being taken care of right in our homes, in our nursing homes. that's part of why the mortality rate has been so high. we have millions of kids who aren't able to have the opportunities that my kids or most of the people in the media industry's kids are getting who can be helped in all sorts of ways whether it's tutoring or
playing youth sports or musical instruments. we've got in massachusetts, where i live, they estimate that we're paying the equivalent of a 75% -- 75-cent a gallon tax in extra repairs to our cars because we haven't kept the roads free of potholes in the right kind of way. so there's a huge amount of work to do. of course, the president has put central emphasis on climate change and all the work that needs to be done to create a new, more renewable and green economy. those i think are the better roots to job creation. the evidence is the people who are getting money, but not working, it's often not as satisfying a life. doesn't often have as good outcomes for their kids. so i'd rather see us focus on
good and decent jobs for all. >> well, look, he's got a portrait of fdr across from the resolute desk. maybe there will be more talk about some sort of new deal. it's good to have you. i'm sorry we're out of time, larry summers. thank you. >> good to be with you. we'll be right back. do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? now you can sell your policy, even a term policy, for an immediate cash payment. we thought we had planned carefully for our retirement. but we quickly realized that we needed a way to supplement our income. if you have one hundred thousand dollars or more of life insurance you may qualify to sell your policy. don't cancel or let your policy lapse without finding out what it's worth. visit conventrydirect.com to find out if you policy qualifies. or call the number on your screen. coventry direct, redefining insurance.
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johnson & johnson board member said they will have 100 million doses available by april. >> we hope that a hopeful sign and uptick in the rate of vaccination. dr. paul offa joining us. a member of the fda vaccine advisory committee, another way of saying he knows what he's talking about. dr. fauci and others, even as this is a slow rollout, with a host of hiccups around the country and at the federal level, foiauci has been con sit ept saying it is going to turn and get better and i wond fer you're seeing that now and how we should expect this to proceed in the next several weeks. >> i think he's right. there is a lot to be optimistic about. you have the vaccine that are 95% effective and two more, johnson & johnson and
astrazeneca in the next month or two. it is getting warmer out, so that is less likely to be transmitted efficiently and you have an administration in place that cares about the science and knows what it is doing. and the other thing that never gets talked about much, when you list the 25 million people have been infected in the united states, those are people just tested and found to be infected. many people haven't been tested f. you do antibody surveillance studies who have been infected and who hasn't, that number is probably off by a factor of three, close to 75 million people who have been infected who are immune. and that is almost 20% of the population. so get up to 70% immunization rates which is possible and then we could say we've gotten control of the virus that could happen as long as we give frankly more than a million doses a day, closer to 3 million doses a day to get on top of this by the summer.
>> far he'd zack aria had an interesting article in "the washington post" saying we have to set our sights higher. but i couldn't believe that kaiser foundation study that said six in ten americans don't know where to get a covid vaccine and that is 21% of health care workers. they just don't know what to get what they're allowed to get. >> no. we don't have a public health system that is geared toward mass immunization. i think we are slowly doing that in philadelphia, different states are learning at different rates but we're learning as we go and it is painful. >> other issue and challenge and i don't want to focus entirely on the challenges but these have to be overcome to get to where you need to be is vaccine hesitancy, people that don't want to take it. the walgreens ceo saying today that up to 80% of staff at
long-term care facilities, a key vulnerable spot in all of this, refused to take it. and i wonder how broadly we're seeing that problem and could that be overcome? >> i think at some level it is explainable. i think should be skeptical of anything you put in your body, including vaccine. this is scary, warp speed and race for vaccine and who is the first to cross the finish line. it is a novel technology. we don't have another commercial vaccine that used that technology so i get all of that. but you do have abundant evidence of efficacy and evidence that this has been in more than 10 million people and we don't have evidence of a rare side effect. so people that are skeptical, i think if they could be convinced by data and logic and reason then we should be able to convince them. if they are conspiracy theorists, you wouldn't be able to convince them. but i think with data you could
convince them. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. when is the impeachment trial of former president trump going to start? it hinges on a standout between chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell. we'll take you live to the hill, next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (quiet piano music) ♪ ♪ comfort in the extreme. the lincoln family of luxury suvs.
a source tells cnn the house could send the article of impeachment to the senate as soon as today. note this though, mitch mcconnell is hoping to push the trial until next month in order to give president trump's legal team time to prepare. i spoke with the number two democrat in the senate. he said he's open to that idea as well. this is as president biden using his second full day in office to focus on the economy. he'll sign two more executive orders today to provide more assistance to those struggles in this pandemic. the administration still considering all options as congress works to reach a deal for more stimulus. >> he thinks we could get to a bipartisan package but we're not going to take tools off the table because addressing this is what he was elected to do but we're going to pursue a bipartisan package first. >> today the covid death toll is staggering. 410,000 americans have now lost their lives in thi