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value and it is a principle and we're so pleased that unlike the trump administration, the biden administration not only allows but couraged the general to come and present his views, which is happening right now in armed services committee. so, again, a very happy time. i'm very proud of our members. before i came here, i was in a session that was made available for members and staff about the trauma of what happened on january 6th. talked about physical trauma, psychological trauma, vicarious trauma and the rest. when the press saw my office and asked about things that were stolen, glass that was broken, just violation of the property
there, i merely said that is important, i respect the speaker's office and the accouterment of history that is there but i'm more concerned that the damage that they did to our staff, to our colleagues, and the congress to the custodial staff and in the capitol of the united states. that is damage. that is damage that must be addressed. the resilience that we want to convey, we tried to do that night by coming right back, opening up the session of congress, proceeding with the business at hand. the counting of the electoral college votes to ascertain that joe biden and kamala harris were president and vice president of the united states. but that was one aspect of resilience. so many members felt their lives
threatened, the uncertainty of it all contributed to the trauma. this is of something that everyone in the country should take a measure of how they reacted to this. but let us all pray for the resilience that our country is famous for and that our people need to have as we go forward. one other part of that is that we will be in a few days, i'll be talking with managers as to when the senate will be ready for the trial of the then president of the united states for his role in instigating an insurrection on the capitol of the united states, on our democracy. to undermine the will of the people. it is very clear he's been on this path for a while. but just that day he roused the
troops, he urged them on, to fight like hell. he sent them on their way to the capitol. he called upon lawlessness. he showed a path to the capitol and the lawlessness took place. a direct connection in one day over and above all of the other statements he had made before. so in any event, we are asking, i'm not going to be telling you when it is going, but we have to wait for the senate to be in session. they have now informed us they're ready to receive, the question is other questions about how a trial will proceed. but we are, we are ready. with that i'm plead to take any questions. what do you have, jeff? >> you were talking about security here at the capitol and i know you're very concerned about this. do you have any evidence or were you briefed in any capacity
about you having any evidence or were you briefed in any capacity about the allegations of recognizance tours and if not proof of that, some of the republican members who were alleged to have given these have denied that they did -- >> it is all of those things as you indicate, you have to have evidence of what has happened. there is no question that there were members in this body who gave aid and comfort to those with the idea that they were embracing a lie. a lie perpetrated by the president of the united states that the election did not have legitimacy. these people believed it. they believe the president. the president of the united states, his words have weight. they weigh a ton, in fact. so, that is one thing. in terms of what you sullggest,
everything has to be based on evidence that remains to be seen. in that regard, i'm very pleased that we will have an action review that will review many aspects of what happened, if people did aid and abet, there will be more than just comments from colleagues here, there will be prosecution if they aids and abetted an insurrection which people died. but, again, as you rightfully ask, that is something that you have to collect the evidence for as you proceed, a. b., i'm very excited because you asked about security here that general russell honore has agreed to take a big view of the security here. we will have an after action review. there will be a commission, all of that. but immediately actually before
the weekend' g -- weekend he agd to take a look at the security infrastructure, the intra agency relationships an the fact that he's familiar with the capitol security aspects of it, we believe that we're in very good hands with his taking the look that he has and inviting experts in the field to give their views as well. so that is where we are. yes, ma'am. >> thank you, madam speaker. two things. if you could put any finer point on the timing for the articles of impeachment -- [ laughter ] >> i said you'll be the first to know. >> thank you. and also you mentioned schumer becoming the senate majority leader. >> yes, very excited. >> you've work the with leader schumer and mcconnell, what is your advice for leader schumer now that he is in the majority, as he confronts leader mcconnell who let us know yesterday that
he still sees that even though democrats have a sweep of government now, that the house and senate and white house, leader mcconnell still sees an important role for republicans -- >> you're asking what advice i could give to leader schumer? >> yes. >> you know him. i wouldn't think of giving him any advice on how to deal with the senate. not at all. nor does he give me advice on how to run the house. >> and in dealing with leader mcconnell. >> well, again, that is a dynamic that is very different from the house. i would say, though, for both of us we have a responsibility to find bipartisanship where we can. to find our common ground where we can. we have that not only as a goal but as a responsible. when we can't, we must stand our gr ground, that is thomas jefferson, standing the ground like that. but if we're talking about what
the country needs, the country needs to crush the virus. it hasn't happened yet. the country needs to end a economic crisis that we're in. we need to do more to do that. and one way to do both is to help our heroes, our health care workers, our police and fire, our first responders, our sanitation, transportation, our teachers, our teacherez. they are on the front line risking their lives to save lives and on the verge of losing their jobs. so it is about a case that we make for what the country needs that hopefully we could have bipartisan agreement. >> thank you. you mentioned unity in the message of unity yesterday. are you at all concerned about moving forward that an impeachment trial could undercut that message and illien ate
supporters of the president. >> no. i'm not worried about that. the fact is the president of the united states committed an act of incitement of insurrection. i don't think it is very unifying to say oh, let's just forget it and move on. that is not how you unify. joe biden said it beautifully. if you're going to unite, you must remember and we must -- and look at that is our responsibility, to uphold the integrity of the congress. united states. that is our responsibility. to protect and defend the constitution of the united states. and that is what we will do. and just because he's now gone, thank god, that we -- you don't say to a president do whatever you want in the last months of your administration, you're going to get a get out of jail
card free because people think we should make nice and forget that people died here on january 6th, that the attempt to undermine our election, to undermine our democracy, to dishonor our constitution, no. i don't see that at all. i think that would be harmful to unity. >> speaker pelosi -- >> madam speaker, a year ago in the last impeachment trial you said you could not have a trial without documents and witnesses, i'm wondering what kind of trial you would like to see your impeachment managers put forward and is that what you're waiting for, how they will conduct themselves before you send that article over. >> let me say this. we're talking about two different things. we're talking about the phone call that the president had that was one of it and people could
say i need evident. this year the whole world bore witness to the president's incitement, to the execution of his call to action, and the violence that was used. so, i, believe it or not, don't take part in the celebrations of delivering or making or preparing for the trial. that is up to the managers. but i do see a big difference between something that we all witnessed, versus what information you might need to substantiate an article of impeachment based on large part on a call the president made and described as perfect. it was perfectly unconstitutional. this is different. but again, it is up to them to decide how we go forward, when we go forward, it will be soon. i don't think it will be long.
but we must do it. >> speaker pelosi, what is the status of hr-1 right now. >> hr-1 is -- the status of hr-1 is that it is in an exalted position. it is a priority for us. the senate has -- i think it is six. this is very important and i thank you for asking about it. because this is really central to the integrity of our government. to reduce the role of big, dark special interest money in politics. to give more leverage to small donors and grassroots activists. to implement what john lewis put forth in ending voter suppression that is what january 6th was about as well, voter suppression. and the list goes on.
we have pulled out hr-4, which was part of hr-1. the voting rights act. but that is very much a part of the spirit of that. the reason we have them separately is hr-6 needs to have and we have provided it with hearings all over the country, marsha fudge, now soon to be madam secretary, terry sewell, john lewis, bless his heart when he was here, were all part of establishing that record for hr-4, the voting rights act for now. so we're optimistic. we're going to pass both of them. and it will give confidence to the american people that their voices is as important as anyones, that big money, which suffocates the airwaves is no longer going to be the order of the day.
and i thank john sarbanes for his tremendous leadership over long period of time. john lawson was doing it early and now john sarbanes, both of them. and what is important about it is, that it gives people the hope that yes, we could have clean air and clean water and address climate crisis because big money will not dominate the policy. yes, we could have gun violence protection because special interest or gun lobbyist money will not dominate the process. we in the democratic party have advanced these, they have been stopped as you know on the other side. but we hope now that the more the public knows, the better we will be in terms of policy. and i'll just conclude by saying something that you've heard me say again again, public sentiment is everything. with it, you can could
accomplish almost everything, without it practically nothing. abraham lincoln. and now that we have the bully pulpit and the president could explain to public more clearly, of course a president has a bigger audience, that the public will know what is at stake, how they could weigh in and it won't -- be a question of the press saying we're bickering. no, we're a major difference of opinion as to how we honor the constitution. we hope that we could find common ground on it because it is very important. and again i'll further close, wasn't it beautiful when president biden quoted what lincoln said when he signed the em
emancipation proclamation on new year's day 1865. it was in his soul, it was in his being and said what he is setting out to do is again in his soul and in his very being. thank you all very much. what a difference a day makes. thank you. hi, everybody, i'm kate bolduan. we've been watching nancy pelosi speaking with reporters holding her first press conference on the first day of the biden administration. let me bring in right now cnn's john harwood and dana bash and also lauren fox is with us as well. what a difference a day makes is now nancy pelosi end this is press conference. it is a new day, right, the first full day of the biden administration, it is a new day thus for the congress. but how different is it going to be? >> very. i think it is easier to count the ways that it is the same than the ways that it is going to -- count the ways it is different than the same. sorry, it was a long night last night, kate.
but you get what i'm trying to say. i thought the point she was making at the end there about that for now it is not going to be so much about the bickering personalities, it is going to be the debate about policy ideas. that is so important. and there is a very big debate to be had. and there always is about policy ideas. how to go forward. how much money to spend on covid relief, how to spend that money on covid relief, how it should be dolled out and so on and so forth, never mind the more traditional policy differences like taxes and others. but that is something that we're all used to covering for many, many years in congress. and in washington. and it hasn't been, you know, able to be at the forefront because we've had missives coming from the white house on a daily basis, personally attacking people, sometimes in
his own party, sometimes not. and it was like covering a mine field or covering people walking on a mine field. and so in that way, it is, you know, look it is refreshing to covering policy. that is why we all got into this. how were people that were elected by voters going to fulfill what they believe are the mandates and have discussions and perhaps god forbid compromise on how to do that. >> at the same time, john, i noticed this morning in tweets, seeing kevin mccarthy speaking on tv already, throwing out partisan grenades, trying to throw president biden's words back at him. angry that biden is rolling back trump era executive orders. and saying that that is evidence that he maybe -- that biden doesn't actually want unity in the country. that is not unity when you roll
back the key stone pipeline executive order for example. is the biden white house eyes wide open on how difficult it really still is going to be, especially when it comes to capitol hill and getting things done to strive for the unity that he's spoken so much about. >> i think, kate, their eyes are wide open. and dana is right, there is a dramatic change that took place when joe biden replaced donald trump. but over time and not that much time, we're going to be back to looking at the things that remain the same. that is to say, the entractable partisan divide between democrats and republicans. that was true when we talked about policy in the george w. bush white house, it was true when we talked about policy in the barack obama white house. donald trump is ideosyncratic and we're no going to see anything like that from the white house. but we do have the two party
coalitions that are at odds and one of the challenges and the cost benefit analysis that biden and white house is going to have to make is how much republican support is it feasible for us to get and how long do we wait to try to get that support as opposed to acting very quickly through procedures that let us go by minority vote. remember that when barack obama became president, he had an extended period on health care, they moved very fast on economic stimulus, joe biden is trying to do the same thing. on health care it was a slower track because barack obama spent time trying to win republican support for months. he ultimately decided and recognized that that was fruitless. he didn't get republican support. so that is a challenge that the biden administration is going to have to make for example on this $1.9 trillion covid relief bill. how much does is t have to get to make the threshold or if we have no prospect for getting a bill anywhere near acceptable and getting ten republican votes
then do we go to the special procedure we call reconciliation where they could do it by a majority vote. that is the key early strategic call for joe biden. >> pelosi making clear, lauren, that they're going to be ready to move on the big covid relief package very quickly. and speaking of unity, the house speaker said she did not believe that moving forward with impeachment of former president donald trump, they does not think that undermines this and the target and the striving for unity but still not tipping her hand on how this is going to play out. what going on behind the scenes here? >> well, kate, i think that is very notable. she wouldn't say when they planned to send the articles of impeachment over to the u.s. senate. remember, that once she makes that move, and it basically sets forth a domino effect where they will have to start that senate trial pretty quickly. so one thing to keep an eye on is the fact that my colleague manu and i are both hearing right now that tomorrow could be the day that those impeachment articles go over to the u.s. senate. once that happens, we could
expect to see the senate trial start next week. it is important to remember that this trial really looms over biden's agenda in every way. when you're talking about covid relief and an immigration reform plan and talking about even getting his nominees, people in the jobs that he wants them in, this is a real obstacle. and we are hearing that they want to make this fast and make it expedited, how long of a trial is still a big question. but pelosi very strategic saying she plans to talk to her house managers later to make a call on when to send over the article of impeachment to the senate but no decision yet. >> go ahead. >> we covered congress together a few years ago and we've covered nance for a long time. i thought that her answer to manu's question was so interesting, not just in the content of what she said but how she said it. we're not going to make nice-nice. the president showed a path to the capitol. we have to keep in mind that
this is so personal for these members. they were traumatized. she said at the beginning -- >> and she spoke to that. >> she came from a meeting where they were basically getting counseling, which is understandable. and i think all of us as humans are glad to hear that, because i'm speaking to one person in the building right now, lauren. and so that is something that you cannot separate from the political implications and the questions about the politics or the history or the precedence setting that pelosi was talking about. >> and it is really a great point. there is also another factor kind of as we look at the new relationship between the new president and the congress, john. that i think you guys obviously know but if reminding folks at home, that joe biden is a product of that building. joe biden's relationships, we're talking 30 years plus, john,
that he spent in the senate and i don't think it should be underestimated what that really means even though we haven't seen it in the last four years, what to could mean going forward? do you think i'm overstating it, john. no, i think you're right. i think that will lead joe biden to try to spend more time trying to cultivate that support rather than less when he gets to a hinge point and you've got to make a call. one fourth of the republican senate caucus served with joe biden in the senate. mitch mcconnell served a quarter century with joe biden in the senate. susan collins served a dozen years with joe biden in the senate. she's one of the key targeted. lisa murkowski, seven years and she's another key target. so you have an opportunity that president trump is created frankly in this insurrection because of the shock that that generated, because of the way that it has at least for now
fractured republican support, that creates an opening for joe biden to go get a sliver of those people. but the weight of gravity, of the partisan dynamic that we have, is going to reassert itself and we don't know how long that fracture is going to last and how large the opportunity that joe biden has to get republican support, he's not going to get hardly any in the house. there is some prospect in the senate. and we're just going to have have see him play that out. in terms of the impeachment trial, that certainly does -- will have a complicating factors, but as dana said, it is very personal to the members but also as a matter of history gives you responsibilities that you can't simply ignore. and when you have a violent insurrection against the sacred rituals of democracy that lead to the election of a president, you don't -- it is not really an option to say oh, we're going to ignore that and they're not ignoring it and joe biden is going to have to accommodate
that. >> thank you, guys, very much. really appreciate it. coming up for us, sources are telling cnn that the biden administration was left with no plan for vaccine distribution by the trump administration. telling cnn that the biden team is starting from scratch. where does that leave biden's promise then of 100 million shots in 100 days. plus, joe biden starts his first full day in office with only one cabinet pick confirmed. how quickly will he get this team in place and how does it hold up the impact of his agenda?
now killed more than 4 hup thousand americans. more than 4,000 just yesterday. the team said the president will be signing executive actions today that focus an reopening schools an businesses and that is on top of the of the 17 executive actions the president signed yesterday. let's get straight to the white house for more on this. we have a lot of moving parts. jeremy diamond is there and standing by. this morning the biden team put out a 21-page covid plan and there are more executive orders coming. what is in it all? what does it all mean. >> it is making clear is on president biden's first day in office that the coronavirus pandemic is job number one for the administration and the most urgent crisis that the administration faces. president biden and his team unveiling this national strategy to combat the pandemic which is a stark contrast to what we saw from the previous administration. in two ways.
on the implementation side you're seeing a coordinating strategy rather than the trump administration which is allowing states to simply figure it out. and you're seeing several executive actions that president biden will be signing today at 2:00 p.m. le direct agencies to use all available methods including the defense production act to speed up the supply of including vaccine distribution and personal protective equipment and all of the shortfalls that the biden administration has already identified and establishing a covid pandemic board for example and requiring masks at airports and other modes of transportation. this builds on the work we saw from president biden yesterday in his first hours as president when he signed 17 executive actions including several that were focused on the coronavirus pandemic including officially namin naming jeff zients as his coronavirus coordinator. the second aspect of how this is
different from the previous administration is on the messaging front. that is why we're see going to see dr. fauci joining jen psaki later this afternoon for a coronavirus briefing. one of the goals that this administration has identified in the strategy is restoring public trust in the government's response to coronavirus. and so much of that is going to be based on stopping the flow of misinformation that has come out of this white house for the last year and instead providing science-based recommendations to government agencies and also more importantly to the public as this goes forward. but one key thing that we do need to note here, kate, is that despite the flurry of executive actions that we're seeing from this administration from the president today, so much of this also will require congress. m much of what is laid out in the 21-page strategy requires funding. that $1.9 trillion that president biden has requested from krcongress and that will ba tall order to secure the funding from congress. >> thank you. so much worse than we could have imagined.
that the how the new white house coronavirus coordinator jeff zients is describing. there is not a single vaccine plan to speak of from a trump administration. one telling cnn, we're going to have to build everything from scratch. it is biden's problem now, that is for sure. let's dig into this. joining me now is a doctor, a member of the biden transition advisory board joining us from gillette stadium where he's running a mass vaccination site there. thank you for being here. i want to ask you about this reporting that cnn has coming in saying that there is no vaccine distribution plan that was left by the trump administration. that the white house now has to start from scratch. did you know this? >> no. what we knew in the transition advisory board was that we were
not getting any information that was not public information already. and so it was a complete mystery, was there going to be a binder describing the national strategy and what the status of production president and his [ inaudible ] [ technical difficulties ] what we're seeing in the plan that was unveiled is a national strategy which is not what we've really had. it is been all break through and no follow-through. >> let me ask you real quick, on the way out of the door, the former head of hhs, azar was asked about the biden team voicing criticism of the vaccine rollout and he put it that he thought it was a concerted effort by the new team to down talk where things are so they could look like heroes when we come in. you could respond to that? is that happening here?
>> i wish it were true. it is not hard to see on the ground that the vaccine distribution has been chaotic to say the least. and when you talk to states or cities, and i'm running this site here at gillette stadium, we don't have visibility into how much vaccine is actually available. so that is the facts on the ground and remains where we are. and it is going to take time to build and put all of that together for the new administration. >> and that is a key question that i have for you. so if the target for the biden administration is 100 million doses in 100 days, that is 50 million people vaccinated by late april and follow that through at the current rate we're look at now, that is not until february of next year for there to be three quarters of the adults in this country to be vaccinated. is that an acceptable target? >> well you have to imagine is that as a target we're building up to. on one hand it is an ambitious
target for the administration. and it is not there yet. on the other hand, we have to be well past the million vaccines a day that will be required getting up to 2 million and more because the ultimate end goal is to get everybody access to vaccines as fast as possible, that is both about production, which is not there yet, supply, meaning production and administration, being able to know where you could go to get the vaccine and go smoothly and scheduled in a structured way. it is getting better. counties and cities and states have been heroic in standing up for efforts and now what is some real transparency and from the top and that fema will provide the reimbursements for states to know that their supplies and needs for the vaccines and for testing are going to be
addressed. >> i want to ask you, testing, vaccine prevent, our actions is all part of this. there is a move in europe right now to require to push people to only wear medical style masks now. ge germany and france saying people should no longer be wearing cloth masks because they might not provide enough protection. do you think that move should happen here in the u.s.? >> i've strongly endorsed taking this approach. right now the new b-117 strain spreading across the country, doubling every week, is much more contagious. the single layer cloth mask has done an effective job against the strain that we've had, but it is clear we're going to likely need more protection in order to prevent this from surging, creating yet another surge in the weeks to come. so medical grade masks meaning surgical masks, those are better than single layer masks or the
n-95 or kn-95 masks. i think this is the direction we will need to head to be more effective in controlling this new strain. >> and we're going to need more supply as well. really quickly. just logistically speaking, now with the administration in place, what happens with the covid advisory board that you've been on? >> yeah, we've all been retired as of yesterday. now that they have the resources of the cdc, the nih, the fda and others which weren't available at all to the transition and we were a rump team providing that kind of expertise and advice, now we are retired, some have gone into the administration, i and others remain available for advice as needed from the outside. >> so i hope you enjoy retirement because i could tell you are slowing down. it is good to see you, doctor, thank you very much. coming up for us, president biden gets to work with just one cabinet member in place on his
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of south bend, indiana, and the former primary rival to president biden, is one of the cabinet picks that are weeks behind schedule in getting confirmed, getting in place. president biden beginning with only one cabinet selection in place, the director of national intelligence. that is less than any president in modern history. ryan nobles is on capitol hill and following this for us. ryan, what is the status for the biden cabinet and what is the timing expectation of getting people in place? >> reporter: well there is to doubt that president biden will like to see the cabinet secretaries confirmed as soon as possible. but there are two factors. first is the timing in general. there could be an impeachment trial that begins here as soon as next week perhaps, and that goods going to mean more time is going to taken up by the business of the senate that could be focused on confirming the cabinet secretaries and even though democrats now enjoy control of the majority in the
senate, it is only a 50/50 split. so that is easier for them to gum up the process and make it go normally under certain circumstances and press the biden cabinet secretaries. so it depends on cabinet secretary in terms of the timing. you have janetel yellen and anthony blinken. both are expected to have relatively easy confirmation fights. but it is still going to take this some time. now run into controversial with lloyd austin because it is a waiver because of his service in the defense department as a member of the military to get through that stage and alejandro mayorkas. so those two complicating factors means it won't happen immediately, kate. >> it is good to see you, ryan, thank you. so with only one member of
the president's cabinet in place, in a huge task ahead really to get the country on a path of recovery on so many fronts, how do you put promises into action on day one. joining me now is melody barns. thank you for being here. how concerning is it from your perspective that president biden only now has one cabinet member confirmed on day one? >> well first of all it is great to be with you, kate. and certainly this is not optimal but it is not unusual. i think in the reporting just before we began our conversation indicated that this was the first time in modern history of presidents only had one cabinet secretary in place but president obama only had six and trump had two. and it took 86 days for president obama to get his cabinet fully installed so this isn't unusual. but what does happen and this is why so many of us were really
concerned and interested in the transition process moving forward, is that during that process, agency teams are assessing what is happening in those agencies, others who don't have to be confirmed are starting now to move into the agencies and the departments and they're doing so armed with information that was gathered during the transition so it isn't as though these are agencies and departments that are acting without direction. and remember, even though president obama didn't have his full cabinet in place for almost three months, we're still able to move legislation forward, we were able to do the nation's business even in the middle of an economic crisis. >> you know, biden has talked a lot about healing and unity and empathy, a very big part of his speech yesterday, and you wrote about that in a washington post op-ed before the inauguration about what history has taught us about healing as a nation.
that i really think is very interesting and appropriate here. you make the case looking back at history that the -- in order for the country to heal from something like the insurrection on january 6th, people need to be held accountable. accountability, not denial is essential to healing how you put it. let me play something then that the new white house press secretary said when asked if biden thinks that donald trump needs to be held accountable. >> he is going to leave it to members of congress to carry out their constitutional duty and determine what the path forward its and what the mechanisms will be and what the process and time line will be. >> do you think that is the right position for them to take? >> well, clearly at this point the issue of a senate trial does sit with congress. it sits with the senate, the house is acted, those arts of impeachment should move over to the senate fairly soon.
we know that during the transition before the inauguration that then president-elect, now president biden, asked about the possibility of bifurcation of an agenda so he could move forward addressing the economy and covid and at the same time the senate could handle a trial i don't believe, after watching joe biden as a senator, after working in the white house when he was a vice president, and listening to his speech yesterday at the inauguration that he's trying to whistle past what happened on january 6 and all that preceded it. in fact, i think he issued a call to action for all of us yesterday in furtherance of healing and in furtherance of unity, and that's very different than what carol janney and i wrote about in our op-ed, those who were trying to move beyond it, speak to healing and unity when they care about neither. they have no interest in that,
they just didn't want to take responsibility for what's happening. i think that's different than what president biden is asking for, and now the senate has to move forward with a trial, and at the same time, president biden has spoken to all the ways that we have to act together to address the extremism, the anger, the resentment, and all of us sitting in our communities have to take action as well. this is an issue that sits at all of our doorsteps, not just that of the white house. >> so interesting, melody, your perspective on this. really quickly, in pushing for unity and empathy and kind of plea to come together, already this morning i've seen -- let me read what i saw from republican senator tom cotton who wrote about biden's plea. president biden called for empathy but one of his first actions was cancelling the keystone pipeline, eliminating 11,000 good-paying jobs. where is the empathy for
americans who are now unemployed thanks to joe biden? i read this where it talks about empathy and how people are reading different definitions of this. >> let's not play politics with what happened on january 6 and the insurrection, not to mention what's happened in the months and years prior to that. let's not play politics with the fact that the american people have been lied to about the election that just took place. there will be disagreements about policy, and our democratic institutions were designed for those kinds of debates. we have an election, elections have consequences, and president biden will act. but at the same time, the very fundamental nature of our democracy was called into question, was attacked. and we have to call for responsibility and accountability to that in the way that dr. janney and i wrote about in our op-ed. if we don't do that, we don't ensure the future that we all
want. what needs to happen isn't a distraction from the nation's business, it's an insurance policy to make sure that we have the kind of government and the strength of democratic institutions that we need so we can move forward without violence, without lawlessness so that our institutions can operate and can function and we can have a rich and robust debate and move forward in the best interest of the american people. >> so interesting. melody, thanks for coming in. >> great. thank you for having me. coming up, a woman accused in the capitol hill riot appears in court, and authorities arrest one of the leaders of the extremist group the proud boys. more details, next. i made a business out of my passion. i mean, who doesn't love obsessing over network security? all our techs are pros. they know exactly which parking lots have the strongest signal.
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just moments ago a bail hearing for that woman, riley wil williams, a woman who has been seen in videos seeming to direct rioters around the capitol building during the insurrection. her court hearing just wrapped up. josh campbell has been following this. he's here with more details on this. josh, walk us through what happened in this morning's hearing. >> reporter: kate, we're seeing the wheels of justice turn here as these arrested suspects are now finding their way into courtrooms and before judges. let's look at this woman, riley williams. we have her on video. she was allegedly directing people on that day of the capitol mob around the area into the building, and that's one of the things that really caught the eye of prosecutors here.
let's look at what they accused her of. there was a tipster that told the fbi that she had stolen a laptop from speaker nancy pelosi and attempted to send that to a friend in russia in order to sell it to russian intelligence. there is no indication beyond that allegation that that was the case, but we do know that prosecutors are charging her in assisting with the theft of government property as well as unlawful entry. she was released just a short time ago on bail. our colleague sonia mogey was in the courtroom. let me describe what the judge said, really unleashing on this defendant saying, and i quote, we know now that the mob failed and the constitution prevailed. the constitution prevailed because congress, stepping over the wreckage of its capitol, met and confirmed with the vice president of the united states the vote of the electoral college, setting the stage for the latest peaceful transfer of power yesterday. the judge said you are being released today because the constitution has prevailed. she will be in home confinement, but again j, just one of the
latest defendants we're hearing about working their way through the system as they took part in this attack. >> also an organizer for the extremist group the proud boys also went to court and was released. what can you tell us about this one? >> reporter: this is a florida man named jason biggs. authorities tell us he was allegedly an organizer with the proud boys who was there on the day of the attack. he said he posted to parler, the website, beforehand, saying people should try to blend in, wear clothing that would blend them in. he was also seen on video with an earpiece, on walkie-talkies, communicating. that brought up the question of whether this was an orchestrated attack or just people who got out of hand. it is looking more and more, as we read through these court fi filings, that there was communication on the ground, you had people directing each other. that information coming from court documents. and finally, i'll say that, kate. we've been digging into these
court records. authorities have released certain information now. there is still a lot they haven't released. a lot of this information remains sealed. experts say that could be the bigger fish we're waiting to see how serious these charges will be as investigators continue to do their work, kate. >> josh, thank you so much. thank you for joining us today. i'm kate baldwin. john king picks up our coverage right now.