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that's it for us tonight. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts now. >> we're living in the part of history that people write about, and it's true. >> people are going to remember this. and they'll remember you, d. lemon. >> and you. think about, i'm glad you said that. we -- how are you feeling? it's been -- we've aged ten years. >> yes. not you. >> and the country. >> you do things so you don't look as much as you have aged. >> like hair and makeup, and lighting. and think about it, it's been a tough five years since that escalator ride. it's been a lot tougher on americans during the pandemic, but i'm just putting things into perspective. ever since then, our lives have been turned upside-down. i've never worked so many hours anchoring. i'm supposed to do one hour, then two hours, sometimes three
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and four, working the weekends, getting called an enemy of the people, people yelling at us. all kinds of things we've had to deal with over the past five years. i don't want to say our long national nightmare is over. we need to see what happens in the coming weeks, days, and months, it's the ending of an era, we'll see how it turns out. >> is it a beginning or an end? i'm unsure. people who bet on trump, their pain is still there. people that have problems with ignorance and animus, i don't know what to do with that. the people who are going to have a hard life will have a hard life for some time to come. and especially with the tabloids
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from the fringe right, already trying to demonize him with immigration. hawley stopping the quick appointment of a homeland security in this kind of environment over nothing. and nobody stood up and told him to sit down. >> it's over selfishness. >> nothing of merit. >> you're absolutely right. history will be the judge, we've said that. and when people get fed up, the rise up and go to the polls and they vote people out. which is what they did with this administration. people had had enough. yes, 72, 73 million, i know it gets rounded up to 74, but it's not. they voted for this president. but 81 million voted against this president. and for the incoming administration. and i got to tell you, what a marked difference, yesterday on my show, listening to obama's
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farewell speech, and comparing that to trump's today. and watching joe biden be a human being, showing empathy, being emotional, talking about the 400,000 people who died, honoring them, paying tribute to them, and to the people who have kept america on track for the last year. but even the last four years. because in spite of all of the craziness and lack of leadership, all of the lying and vistriol that came out of this white house and the people who support this president, america is still on-track. and the people who have been running the country and keeping the country going are still here for this country. many of them did die during the pandemic, but they stood up and said, i've had enough. and tomorrow, i think this american carnage will be over.
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i'll see you at midnight. it started with us, and all the interviews, remember, i think, i'm pretty sure i was the first person to look him in the eye and say, are you racist? he said, i'm the least racist person. and now, him with the racist insurrection on the capitol. >> i'm happy to be on tonight. happy to be a part of history. >> and we'll be here tomorrow doing our thing that people love to watch. >> hopefully. here's my hope, and newsmen never ask for this. i hope you and i from midnight until 5:00 a.m. eastern have a very uneventful night. >> amen. see you later. guess what -- >> i love you, d. lemon. >> see you soon. see you at midnight, okay? this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. it's been a long time, but i
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know a change is coming. and you know it, too. 14 hours left in this trump presidency. i can hardly believe it, i can barely watch the television today. i was so emotional, good riddance. bye-bye. and we're still waiting on a rush of last-minute pardons, by the way. just like any reality tv star, he's got to tease it. i'm going to do it at the last minute, just because. sometimes just to get you interested. it could come in the next couple of hours. it's the end of one thing, and the beginning of another. two hours until inauguration day in america. an inauguration day like nothing we've ever seen before. the nation's capitol is on
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lockdown, as we see the national mall is deserted. it's beautiful, but it is deserted. and in just a few hours, joe biden will take the oath of office and become the 46th president of the united states. just days after a mob of rioters stormed the steps of the capitol, incited by the current president. i can hardly believe i'm saying a current president incited a riot in the capitol. these are the times we're living in. on a day we reached a horrible toll, more than 400,000 americans dead from covid. the president-elect and his vice president paying tribute tonight at the lincoln memorial reflecting pool. 400 lights for 400,000 dead. >> to heal we must remember it's hard sometimes to remember, but that's how we heal. it's important to do that as a
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nation. that's why we're here today. between sundown and dusk, let us shine the lights in the darkness along the sacred pool of reflection, and remember all whom we lost. >> just hours before he becomes the president of the united states, joe biden paying a somber, heartfelt tribute to everyday americans who lost their lives to the pandemic. don't get me wrong. we can't expect everything to change just like that. too much has happened. we've seen too much. there's too much damage, too much work to be done for it all to change in just one day. but we can begin, right? can't we begin? we have a president-elect who is all too familiar with personal pain, stepping up to be the consoler in chief. because he has to in this moment. a president-elect who won a resounding victory, only to have
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the current president try to steal it from him. joe biden about to take the oath of office, witnessed by millions of americans at home, and three former presidents at the c capital. but not the current president, who brags about his so-called accomplishments. >> now as i prepare to hand power over to a new administration, at noon on wednesday, i want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning. there's never been anything like it. >> in a matter of hours, america turns the page on four years of the trump presidency. that will be over. a presidency that started with these words. >> this american carnage stops right here, and stops right now.
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>> it certainly does, doesn't it. he was prescient. four years ending with true american carnage, a riot, a pandemic, carnage. more than 400,000 americans dead from coronavirus, and a president whose dereliction of duty let all this happen on his watch. no more denying the truth and lying to the people about a deadly pandemic. that will be over. even though the pandemic will not. >> it's a killer if it gets you. if you're the wrong person, you don't have a chance. >> yes, yes, exactly. this is a scourge and -- >> it's a plague. >> imagine the irony of all of this, like, a shakespearean
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play. even when he was infected himself, he didn't take it seriously. he never took it seriously. that will be over. >> i said, supposing you put the light inside the body, and i think you said you're going to test that, too. sounds interesting. and i see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. i said, is there something you can do that, with injection inside or almost a cleaning. you see it gets in the lungs. >> every time i play that, i've played it so many times, it makes me chuckle, and i have my producer trying to keep me from laughing in my ear, because it's so stupid and ridiculous. but i'm not laughing or chuckling now, because it's not funny. it wasn't funny then. it was just so dumb that you had to laugh. it was laughable.
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that a president of the united states actually said injecting bleach, as he's talking to experts. that happened. we're going to look back on that one day and say, did that really happen? did that really happen? damn. boy, that was some crazy you know what. because it was. no more coddling, and cozying up, that will be over. >> you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. you had people, and that group, excuse me, i saw the same pictures as you did. >> that very fine people on both sides, that, too, we're going to say -- did that you know what
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say that and we'll say, yeah, he did. very fine people on both sides, from the worst elements of our society, nazis, neonazis, white supre supremacists, racists. no more cultivating thuggish supporters instead of denouncing them. that will be over. >> give me a name. >> white supremacists. >> proud boys, stand back and stand by. >> even until the very end, stand back and stand by. thank god, i mean that, thank you, god, that that will be over. no more wondering which side of the american president is really
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on. or why he would trust putin, an enemy, over his own government. that will be over. >> my first question for you, sir, is who do you believe? my second question is, would you now, with the whole world watching, tell president putin, would you denounce what happened in 2016, and would you warn him to never do it again? >> my people came to me and said they think it's russia. i have president putin, he just said it's not russia. i will say this, i don't see any reason why it would be. >> can't say there will be no more impeachments. who knows what the future holds, whether republicans will want revenge. but tonight, good-bye. good-bye. to a president who has been impeached not once, but twice. two impeachments, one term. zero popular vote victories.
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more impeachments than terms. he's in the middle of the impeachment process, he will be on trial for inciting a mob to attack the vice president, the speaker of the house, and other members of congress. >> we're going to walk down to the capitol. and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women. and we'll probably not be cheering so much for some of them. because you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength. and you have to be strong. >> hmm. and then he told them he loved them. >> we love you, you're very special. >> so that will not be over. his first impeachment happened
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because he tried to stop joe biden's candidacy by pressuring the president of ukraine on the phone. >> i had a very good call with the president of ukraine. the call was perfect. >> hmm, perfect. he knew that joe biden could beat him. he knew it, and he was right. joe biden did beat him fairly, squarely. not a rigged election. not stolen. president trump tried everything to stop him. when he couldn't, he applied every possible pressure to overturn the election from the state, from the statehouse, from the white house, excuse me, on the phone, he tried everything. that, too, will be over. >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we
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have, because we won the state. >> can -- can you imagine that? the boldness, how brazen, how entitled. i just need this. get it for me. you know how to do it. nope. not going to happen. people didn't want to go to jail, because they had to follow the law. even though you thought you were above it. but you're not above the electoral process. he needed a lot more than that, in the end. and this is the end. it didn't work. democracy held. it's an eternal disgrace, that the president's efforts got as far as it really did. he had so many enablers. and we're going to remember them in the days and years ahead, we'll remember. but all of it, the racism,
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thuggishness, the constant and needless chaos. the love affairs with dictadict, the endless creation of more crisis. the attacks on democracy that brought america to the brink of disaster and brought death to the steps of the capitol itself. and all of that will be over. tomorrow. a new beginning. that is the promise of america. and no matter what he did over these long, long four years or so, donald trump couldn't break that promise. america's promise will now be the hands of joe biden, the 46th president of the united states. i know you've been down. a lot of us have. i know you're going, what is
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wrong with me? we had a lot going on. death, destruction, lies, threats, all of it. you had a reason. but now you have a reason to be hopeful. so as chris said, together, let's get through this together. let's bring our democracy back. peak performance. let's bring in jeff zeleny. thank you so much. i want to give -- self-correct. 74.2 million people, i got my math a little bit wrong with chris. when i make a mistake, i correct it, unlike the former administration, or the one on the way out. good evening jeff. how are you? >> good evening. >> on the eve of joe biden's inauguration, he honored the 400,000 americans who died from covid. it was an emotional moment. talk to me about what we're going to see tomorrow. >> it absolutely was. you see the lights lining the
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reflecting pool, they will be on for a little bit longer tonight. and it was a poignant moment, but really something that will frame the presidency of joe biden. no question. this is, there's somewhat of an air of muted celebration, and of the challenges ahead. he will begin his day tomorrow morning, he will go to mass at the cathedral in downtown washington. but he will be joined by nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, mitch mcconnell, and kevin mccarthy. interestingly, he wants to be seen with these four, beginning that relationship. and giving his inaugural address. i'm told it's going to be about 20 minutes or so, talking about unity and the challenges going forward. but also asking americans once again to come together.
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and framing this challenge. there are going to be living presidents there, president bush, president clinton, president obama, not president trump, of course. and i'm told that president trump is likely not even going to be mentioned in this speech. certainly not dwelled upon at all. there is a sense of turning the page, moving on, moving forward. but he is of course facing so many challenges, many of them will be surrounding him right there on the same west front steps of the capitol exactly two weeks ago when the insurgency began. >> jeff, thank you so much. i appreciate it. and can we get that long shot of the mall, look how beautiful. look at how beautiful our country is. washington, d.c., the seat of our democracy. and can you imagine the horror that happened there two
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wednesdays ago. unbelievable. but look how beautiful it is. the promise of a new day in this country happening tomorrow. this american carnage will end. a scramble in the trump white house over pardons on the eve of joe biden's inauguration. >> 12 years ago, i was waiting at the train station in wilmington for a black man to pick me up before we were sworn in as president and vice president of the united states of america. here we are today, my family and i, about to return to washington to meet a black woman, of south asian descent, to be sworn in as president and vice president of the united states. (grandmother) thank you for taking me home. it's so far. (young woman) don't worry about it, grandma! this will be fun. two chocolate milkshakes please.
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so we're now in the final hours of donald trump's presidency. he's spending his last night at the white house, where there's a scramble to issue pardons. the final schedule has been released, they'll depart for florida tomorrow morning at 8:00 a.m. he's skipping joe biden's inauguration. let's go to kaitlan collins and laura coates. good evening to you both.
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this is the end of an era for us. we've been on the air all these years, kaitlan, i'll start with you. what do you know? >> this is notable, this is the way that donald trump is spending his last few hours in office before leaving in the morning, well ahead of schedule that a typical president would. but we're told the final few hours are basically just the president going back and forth over pardons. that's still what we haven't gotten, something we thought we could have seen at the end of last week. here we are, late into tuesday night at 10:30 p.m., and still haven't gotten the pardons. one big holdup is over steve bannon, we were under the
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impression he would not be on the list. but we're told the president repeatedly brought it up, he wants to pardon bannon. it remains to be seen if he's going to get one, and that's what we're waiting to find out still. >> and the president was talked out of pardoning himself and his kids by republican lawmakers? >> he was talked out of pardpa pardoning himself and his kids, and he agreed after a very long meeting at the white house saturday. >> laura, we're expecting pardons at any moment now, but he was warned that could make him legally vulnerable. i was told last night he could actually do a pardon, not make it public, memorialize it, put it in his pocket, and then pull
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it out as needed and the public would not know about it. but go on, would that make him vulnerable legally, and could he do what i've just said? >> the idea of retaining it as an insurance policy, it invites prosecutors to try to challenge the notion that a president of the united states has absolute power over this very thing. remember just last week, when we heard from president trump, and he said to president-elect joe biden, be careful what you wish for when it comes to the 25th amendment. be careful what you wish for when it comes to a self-pardon, it would go to the supreme court, where he's installed through his own payment three self-professed originalists. who would go to the intent of the founding fathers. i find it very difficult to
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believe they would think it's appropriate for a democratic system that would allow for essentially a king to pardon himself for anything. and it would invite the state prosecutors to say, if there's no ability to challenge him in the federal courts, why wouldn't we try in places like georgia and new york state? and republicans and democrats would be in a position to challenge the president saying i have absolute power, and it's good to be the king. >> thank you, laura and kaitlan. the nation's capitol preparing for president-elect biden's inauguration. the lights at the lincoln memorial's reflecting pool, honoring the more than 400,000 people who have died in the coronavirus pandemic. the challenges ahead, next.
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joe biden is set to become the 46th president of the united states in a matter of hours, beginning a new era after four tumultuous years of the trump presidency. the coronavirus crisis has claimed more than 400,000 american lives, and heightened security across the capitol and much of the country. gentlemen, good evening. here we go. i keep saying, an end of an era, right? john, why are you laughing, john kasich?
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>> you know, don, i was thinking about what i wanted to say tonight. i wrote a couple of things down. for six or seven years, i've been dealing with this. i stood on a stage with him, and de debated. then when we were in smaller numbers, he quit. at the convention in cleveland, i didn't go. i kept pointing out things i was concerned about. north korea, he was over there calling them his buddy. he withdrew from the iran deal. attacking our allies, belittling them. demagoguery over immigrants. name-calling, polarization. there has been so many things. and now it's done. it's over. as you said earlier tonight, it's finished. but it will be a patch of history that a lot of people will want to read. i hope we're able to move on.
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i still have great concerns about what is around the corner. but violence is down, we're not seeing violent protests and everything. >> disinformation on the internet is down since the president has been off of social media. go on. >> and, you know, it's not like -- i'm trying to get my emotion. it's not joy, it's like, wow. like a roller coaster ride, you have to go up, you go crashing down, and you don't know what is around the bend. it's really hurt our country. and i feel badly for people that can't seem to deal with this. i don't mean the violent ones. the ones who are bitterly disappointed in this guy, they thought he offered him hope, but he was a negative populist. always blaming problems on
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somebody else instead of saying, we're in this together, and we'll do it together. and he never did it, that's why i never supported him. it's not i told you so. it's kind of a bitter time, but a bittersweet time. >> and also i think it's a sigh of relief. >> oh, yeah. >> but a cautious one, but the caution is really, at least it's something that we probably have dealt with before, and there's not mounting lies and disinformation, mounting violence, bigotry, hatred, racism, sexism, it's something maybe we're familiar with. and speaking of a president rounding a corner, president-elect biden acted today as a consoler in chief. something we haven't seen in four years. i can't help but think we're seeing a fundamentally decent man replace a fundamentally indecent man.
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is that how history will see it? >> i hope so. joe biden is a decent man, and at the national mall, trying to do a proper remembrance of people who we lost to covid-19. it's like donald trump was in denial, i felt that reassuring today. but on the other hand, washington, d.c., is all lit up, looking beautiful. but people are afraid to come to our nation's capitol. but i'm hopeful. and joe biden did a lot of brave things in 2020. don, i know your new book deals so much with civil rights, and james baldwin, and the like. but biden on july 4th, urged americans. he said we're going to rip the roots of systematic racism, and it was an important statement when biden made it. i think tomorrow will be about unity. but i think biden on week two
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and three will have to be a fighting, happy warrior. we'll have to collectively take on all of the crises and the management that we haven't done properly during the trump administration. >> thank you, the book was number one on amazon today, and it talks about the issues we're dealing with. so i appreciate you mentioning it today. president trump has raised the idea of starting to new political party in recent days. it's unclear how determined he is to do this. but what would that mean for the republican party, and what would that mean for this country, because i think it would mean good news for democrats. they would say, bring it on. because it splits republicans. no? >> i don't know that trump would do that. i think with the party, don, the party just can't be, again, it's
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okay to be against something, but you need to have an alternative, you need a position on health care, on immigration, you have to have a position on running the government, you need to good position on what we're going to do on the gap between the rich and the poor. you can't sit back and be against everything. there are some things you need to embrace. >> you say all of that, john, but that's where the party is going. look at hawley and cruz, and 74.2 million people, what they wanted. it seems to be going in the exact opposite direction of what you're saying. >> remember the scorpions had a song called "the winds of change," a favorite song of mine, written when the berlin wall went down. i don't know how the winds of change will blow. it may be that the party may be damaged for a decade. i'm not sure. because there are people who are beginning to say, no, no, we can
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be better than this, we can do better than this. my hope are in the younger republicans. young republicans are included, but the young people understand the issues of immigration, and the environment, and the need to deal with police and the community. and it's a matter of whether they can assert themselves. hopefully with ideas, they can have energy. >> i have to ask douglas, where do you see, when this kind of unrest, i don't know if we've had similar, but in the past, how does america come out of it? >> we're going to get through this. i always say, don, that, you know, our times are not uniquely per perilous. it is true that covid-19, the health care crisis is so large, we haven't been able to get our arms around it. but tomorrow, joe biden will be
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talking about the soul of america, we need to be hopeful, and we have new management in town, since governor kasich quoted the scorpions, but i'll quote bob dylan, it's all over now, baby blue. it's over now, donald trump, he can go back to mar-a-lago and stew in his own hatred. ♪ well the times they are a-changing ♪ >> how about that. >> don't try to sing. >> we need another laugh. what did you say, douglas? >> i was going to say, the governor of ohio should quote an american bard, not a european glam rock band like the scorpions. >> in a way, the wall has fallen in america, we've all been set free. >> this has gone off the rails
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here. i appreciate both of you. thank you, guys. a major power shift, just hours away. joe biden about to enter the white house, as democrats will take control of the senate. what it means for this country. that's next.
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we're hours away from a major power shift in this country. joe biden will be sworn in, and democrats will take control of the senate. trump never welcomed biden, he didn't even mention biden's name in his farewell video. and trump will become the fourth president in american history to skip his successor's
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inauguration. joining me, senator bob casey of pennsylvania. you told us how the election would all play out, last time we talked. good evening. and instead of loyalists and grifters in the white house, talk to me about the momentous changes we'll see in washington tomorrow. >> don, i think the note of optimism you struck at the beginning of the show tonight is the right approach. because joe biden will be ready to govern, as soon as he takes the oath of office. i think it's reflected in the cabinet choices. these are people of great experience and competence. but also people that have been tested. and it's also probably going to be the most diverse cabinet in history. they're going to attack the virus, and you have to have an
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economic strategy in place, as joe biden outlined in his american rescue plan, which deals with both covid and the jobs crisis. i think today with the cabinet, some of the cabinet hearings, you heard support for tony blinken, janet yellen, she did a good job today, a strong performance. i think on day one, you'll have a team that is ready to govern. and couldn't have a person of better character than joe biden starting on day one. >> senator, president-elect biden is inheriting multiple crises, a deadly pandemic, an economic catastrophe, multiple threats of domestic terrorism. how will he handle the challenges amid such deep division in this country?
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>> joe biden has spent his whole time as a public official trying to bring people together. he'll work at that every day. some days it won't work. but he's tough and determined, and he wants to succeed. he's not going to be in the mood for obstructive behavior by republicans. if they don't work with him, he's going to try to defeat them in terms of getting the votes he needs for his plan. but i think americans are glad that the plan is tackling the jobs and economic crisis and the virus. i think vaccines, that alone will inspire confidence. >> it's been a lesson for each and every person watching, how to ignore the noise and focus on
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what is important. because there is so much chaos around this incoming president, and he's already facing resistance from people in the congress and senate. people like senator hawley, who say he hawley won't even admit biden won the election. is this a sign of things to come do you think? >> for sure. that will continue because so many of them, including the two that objected, senator hawley and senator cruz, their loyalty is to a man and not to the constitution. but the problem with that, don, even republicans know that in order to move the country forward you have to be part of governing, you have to be a part of the solution. and the good news is that joe biden is not going to allow all of the sleights and the insults to slow him down. he is ready to govern. he is ready to put his experience to work for the american people. and at this time of crisis he
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could not be better suited to meet the demands of all of the crises you articarticulated. >> senator casey, thank you very much. now to some breaking news from washington. as we have been saying, we have been waiting on information to come out about the pardons. i understand you have information and reporting as it concerns the former advisor, steve bannon. what do you know? >> reporter: we have not gotten the official list from the white house yet. we are still waiting on that. my colleague, pam brown and i can report the president decided to pardon steve bannon. this is a last minute decision president trump told people he made hours before he is scheduled to leave the white house for a final time. it comes after an entire day of deliberating with president trump as to whether he would pursue it. officials have cautioned cnn
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that it is not final until the president signed the paperwork for steve bannon to get the pardon. he is telling people as one of the final acts in office he is going to pardon steve bannon. this is incredible just given how fractured their relationship had gone and the pitfalls of the relationship between president trump and steve bannon, where it has gone to where it is now. only in 2018 the president ex communicated steve bannon and exiled him from the inner circle after steve bannon told the author he believed the behavior of donald trump jr. was treason es and that ivanka trump was dumb as a brick. president trump said bannon lost his mind and should take no credit for his success. what helped to get him back in the president's inner circle, he was part of fanning the flames and the conspiracy about the
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election for the last several months and played a role in the january 6th rally, telling people to come to washington on a podcast he hosts and bwe were told the president and bannon communicated. >> that was the concern, his possible connection to the january 6th riot on the capitol. we have to explain. we have to explain what happened with steve bannon. steve bannon is accused of defrauding people out of millions of dollars. because of the border wall. people donated money to the border wall. that is what he is accused of. they were saying he used personal expenses and that he and other men took the money and ultimately raised more than $25 million for a volunteer organization that 100% of the funds raised would be used in the execution of the mission and
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the purpose. they said the money was never used for that. that is the accusation. that is thus the reason for the pardon. >> yes. i have to stress the president hasn't signed the paperwork yet or gotten the list from the white house. we are expecting it to be about 100 people on the list. you know, steve bannon will be one of the most notable figures here. we have been talking about others. the president is not expected to be on the list or the children or the republican lawmakers involved in the rally. steve bannon is a figure that he has told people he decided he will pardon steve bannon. it is remarkable. this is kind of a surprise. our sense over the weekend is that the president decided against pardoning bannon and that his chances of getting one were slim. it shows you the last minute nature of this and what president trump is doing in the final hours in office. not the good-bye parties with staffers. he took pictures and had
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meetings. we were told a lot of the deliberations he had were if he would go forward with the pardon. this is what the president is telling people now at 11:00 p.m. >> i want you to stand by. i want you to bring in a former prosecutor here. ellie, let's talk about the legal aspects. new york federal prosecutors charged steve bannon and three others with defrauding donors of hundreds of thousands of dollars. the four men were indicted for using hundreds of thousands donated to an online crowdfunding campaign called we build a wall for personal expenses among other things. $25 million. that is what they allege. they used more than $1 million from the build a wall to secretly pay off one of the people and cover up hundreds of thousands of bannon's personal
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expenses. now as she said, it is not signed yet. that will probably end in a pardon. >> what a fitting end to the presidency, to go out with one last blast of corruption. steve bannon is a straight up crook. you laid it out. he ripped off trump supporters. they ran a scam called we build the wall. steve bannon skimmed a bunch for himself and used it to fund his lavish lifestyle. that is the person that could soon be pardoned. if the pardon goes down, that is a prosecution run by my former office, the usouthern district f new york. i could walk that file down the alley and across the street to the manhattan d.a.'s office in 90 seconds at a brisk pace. that is what needs to happen. this is a theft. federal crime. also a state crime.
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a presidential pardon cannot touch a state crime. >> we are going to continue on with more on the breaking news. pardons coming out of the white house. we should get the list shortly. we will bring it to you live as we get it. we will be right back after the break.
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>> here is our breaking news right now at the top of the hour. president trump said he decided to pardon steve bannon. we await the official announcement and a slew of additional pardons. now we are only one hour away from inauguration day in america. joe biden soon to be sworn in as the 46th president of the united states and kamala harris will be sworn in as the first woman and woman of color to hold the office of vice president. tonight in washington d.c., preparing to begin his presidency, biden presiding over a ceremony, remembering the 400,000 americans that lost their lives due to the covid-19
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pandemic. saying to heal we must remember. trump leaves office at high noon. he will not attend biden's inauguration. if the president wanted to redeem himself at all after the riot at the capitol and that maga mob, this is not going to do it. >> reporter: this is significant. it is such a big change of mind from where we were told the president was over the weekend. we are now told the president told people he decided to pardon steve bannon. officials cautioned saying it is not final until it is final and the president put his name on the paperwork for steve bannon's pardon. he is telling people this is the decision he made. it will be one of his final acts in office, pardoning a former top aide to him who he had a massing falling out with, but they came together ove


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