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cnn tonight with the upgrade laura coates right now. >> chris, i'm so glad i was here to hear your life lessons and so touching. my dad always said to me, laura, there are two kinds of people in this world, those that are humble and those that are about to be. sometimes life forces you into one of those categories, right? >> absolutely. listen, i know he's about my age so -- >> well, i'm not a day over 25, that's true but -- >> that is higher than what i thought. i know you finished college at, what, 7? >> 5. >> listen, you know, look, living is learning and life is pain management and everybody's pain is personal. everybody's going to have stuff. you know, all the trite is true. all the stereotypes are real. all the cliche's are real. it's all about our perspectives on these things. you are brilliant at it when you
do your analysis. you are brilliant at it when you balance work and life. what you make of the additional pressures is up to you. all of the challenges are very real. you may have more, you may have less, we each have our own. how we deal with them is a lens through our reality. look at us now, laura, what is the lens? we have a president telling us we're doing okay. i don't know what color the sky is in his world. there is no metric that is good for us, but this is what he is doing to define his own reality. this is his perspective on it because it's what benefits him. we have a choice as well about what our perspective will be, and we all know we're not doing well. we know people like you and i, we are in a hard way with our kids. >> are you kidding? i've got my kids looking at me asking when they can go back to school, when they can see their
grandparents, why can't we hug people? i didn't land yesterday in the gulf of mexico. we've been here for the last couple of months, right? and we've seen what's happened. we still may be on planet earth and it doesn't feel real. you're right about perspective because we have to make sure that we have the perspective that we hold people accountable. we karccan't just smell the gas allow ourselves to be gas lit. we have to be sure we're holding the feet to the fire because a lot is riding on it. i hate this phrase the new normal. nothing about it is new, nothing about it is normal. all of it feels very old in the sense that people who are in positions of power are not doing enough for the powerless. we have to continue to be those voices. >> it all starts at the top, laura, and i'll be watching. >> thank you. this is cnn tonight. i'm laura coates in for don lemon. our breaking news, hurricane isaias taking aim at the carolinas tonight. we've got the brand-new forecast and we'll go there live in just
a moment. that as the president of the united states continues to downplay the coronavirus as it storms across this country killing more and more americans every single day. hear's what he says tonight. >> i think we're doing very well and i think that we have done as well as any nation. if you really look, if you take a look at what's going on especially now with all of these flare-ups. >> if you really look at what's going on, well, then you would see that the truth is we're not doing very well. we're not doing well at all. the united states has far more cases per 100,000 residents than italy, france, than india, than china, than germany. i mean, the death toll in this country is well over 155,000 tonight. as total cases surge past 4.7
million. that's not doing well by any stretch of the imagination, not by any measure, but take a look at the president's decidedly mixed message on masks tonight. in a campaign email the president asked the supporters to try to wear a mask. just try. and goes on to say, i'm actually quoting this here, i don't love wearing one either. masks may be good, they may be okay, they may be great. how about necessary? if you really want people to wear masks, and every one of us should, that's really -- it's not a convincing argument. not the art of persuasion here. the president wants to distract you with baseless claims that using mail-in voting because, of course, remember, we're in the middle of a deadly pandemic will be a disaster. >> there's never been a push like this for mail-in ballots and if you look at the new york
congressional race, which is a disaster, maryland, it's been a total disaster, they have -- they're six weeks into it now. they have no clue what's going on. and, i mean, i think i can say right here right now you have to rerun that race because it's a mess. how are you using that for an entire snags they're using covid for mail-in ballots. absentee ballots are great. they go through a process, they get them. the universal mail-in ballots have turned out to be a disaster. what nevada has done if you look over the last few days, you have to look at what they've done. >> if you couldn't make sense of that train of thought, nevada's governor is signing into law a plan to send absentee ballots to all active voters this november becoming the eighth state, along with d.c., to adopt universal vote by mail and experts tell cnn, look, there's really no
difference between absentee ballots and voting by mail. so what's the president's excuse for continuing to call mail-in voting into question and potentially forcing americans to choose between their health and their vote? well, he tweeted about it way back in april saying doesn't work out well for republicans. no, seems like you've got one particular republican in mind. i want to bring in cnn chief white house correspondent jim acosta and dr. jonathan ryaner from george washington university. welcome to you both. interesting night to converse with both of you. jim, today president trump went after dr. birx and his own administration's postal service. he is the heckler in his own administration as "the new york
times" put it, isn't he? >> i think he's also becoming increasingly a loner in his administration when it comes to coronavirus. he is going after dr. deborah birx after she publicly contradicted him over the weekend. she is the third person in his striegs do that. the testing coordinator for the administration, he was saying over the weekend that hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment for the coronavirus. as we all know the president has been going after dr. anthony fauci for weeks because dr. fauci has been telling it the way it is giving the scoop to people on covid-19. it is remarkable to see three members of that task force now publicly contradicting the president. you mention the distractions. he's throwing out distractions because he doesn't want to talk about them in depth.
but, you know, why is it that the united states is so far ahead of so many other countries around the world when it comes to deaths from covid-19. the president after throwing insults at us went on to say that the u.s. is doing an amazing job in all of this. it reminds me what i've heard time and again from my sources, sources inside the united states saying the president is just in denial about this problem. when he talks about things like mail-in voting, he's not talking about the facts. he's not keeping up with current events. the u.s. postal service said they have the capacity to deal with the influx of mail-in balloting that is going to be occurring around election time and the president doesn't want to deal with that. >> that would be dealing with reality. dr. ryaner, i want to bring you in here. i want you to take a listen to what he actually says for a moment. check this out.
>> lockdowns do not prevent infections in the knew tur, they don't. it comes back many times. it comes back. the purpose of a lockdown is to buy time to build capacity, especially as it respects to -- with respect to hospitals, learn more about the disease and develop effective treatments as we did in the united states. >> dr. ryaner, what do you think about what he's saying there? >> well, he's wrong. the purpose of a lockdown -- he went on to say permanent lockdowns don't work. no one is talking about a permanent lockdown or shutdown. a shutdown helps to prevent the further spread of the virus in the community, and when businesses are closed and people -- non-essential people are staying home, the virus can spread. it can't spread in restaurants
and bars and it dies. that's the purpose of a shutdown. that's what smart societies do when they see a surge. that's what countries around the world are doing when they see a surge. that's what this country should do in texas, florida, parts of california where the virus is out of control. >> thank you. >> it's as easy as that. >> it's as easy that is if you are listening to the science, if you are listening to common sense it's as easy as that. thank you both. like your perspective as always. dr. anthony fauci is warning about a new phase of coronavirus in the u.s. cnn's athena jones has the story. >> when you have community spread, it's much more difficult to get your arms around that and contain it. >> reporter: in case you hadn't realized it yet, coronavirus is everywhere. >> there are people who are spreading it who have no symptoms at all and we know that
definitely occurs. it's difficult to identify it and it's difficult to do identification, isolation, contact tracing. >> reporter: new covid-19 cases nationwide may be leveling off holding steady in hard-hit texas and falling in arizona and florida, mississippi has the highest number of cases at 21.1%. california is the first state to report half a million infections and daily death tolls across the country continue to climb. the cdc projecting the death toll surpass 173,000 people in the next three weeks. >> we need to look ahead and decide where we want to be in one, two, four, six months and figure out what we need to put in place in order to get to that point. >> reporter: parties presenting another challenge for communities trying to slow the spread. an indoor celebration at a bar to honor first responders causing alarm in los angeles. and a new york sheriff's office
intercepting a party boat off of manhattan after an alleged illegal party. >> really reckless, rude, irresponsible and illegal. >> reporter: and in new jersey where the infection rate while still low has ticked up in days, governor phil murphy imposing new restrictions limiting most indoor gatherings from 25 people down from 100. >> the action of a few knuckle heads leave us no course. >> reporter: community spread causing problems in georgia's school system. they're reporting some 260 employees have tested positive for the virus or come into contact with someone who has, but guinette county had planned to open with online classes only. schools in mississippi and indiana reporting students and staff testing positive for covid-19 leaving them to scramble to notify their contacts. >> not the start we were looking
for in that school. >> athena jones, cnn, new york. >> thank you. now i want to get to our breaking news on hurricane isaias now taking aim at the carolinas tonight. derek van dam is live for us in charleston. derek, i'm glad to see you there. what's the latest from hurricane isaias? where is it now? where is it headed? are you safe out there? >> reporter: yeah, we definitely are safe here in our particular location, but isaias doing exactly what we feared. actually, striking into a hurricane directly before landfall. it's within the hour we expect the center of the storm to move on shore across southeastern north carolina, wilmington, carolina beach, those areas getting pounded right now with extremely strong winds. frying pan schultz just off the coast of north carolina had a wind gust reported over 90 miles an hour. that is category strength. six hours ago this was a mere tropical storm. we have had record -- third
record high tides in myrtle beach. there was some local beach coastal flooding within that region. there has been flooding across portions of the south carolina coast line. where we are now, it's been incredible. we were spared the worst from this storm, but if you look at the radar you can see the eye wall nudge its way on shore. it is going to take a lot of energy from an approaching cold front and it is picking up speed as it moves across eastern carolina today and then the overnight period and it will race towards the mid-atlantic and be across northern new england by wednesday. this is a fast-moving storm when it was only creeping along at 7, 8 miles per hour 24 hours ago. this thing is going to pick up speed and maintain most of its intensity. we have the potential for tropical storm force winds in through new york city through
the course of the afternoon and evening. this is incredible to be talking about tropical storm warnings extending from maine all the way to the border of canada. we're talking over 100 million americans under some tropical advisory or warning as we speak right now. laura, tons to talk about with what is now hurricane isaias making landfall within the hour on the southeast north carolina coast. >> derek, thank you. be safe. thank you so much. that's the last thing people need right now, the last thing. next, how the pandemic defeated america. a damning report from "the atlant atlantic" how the coronavirus exposed this country's vulnerabilities and how our leaders failed us. i'll talk to the reporter who wrote this stunning story.
countries. it's called how the pandemic defeated america. it points to everything from under funded hospitals to a racist policy that made people of color more vulnerable than others. the article particularly criticizes america's leadership saying america has failed to protect its people leaving them with illness and financial ruin. it has lost its status as a global leader. it has careened between inaction and ineptitude. the breadth and magnitude of its errors are difficult in the moment to truly fathom. ed young is a staff writer at "the atlantic" who wrote the cover story. he interviewed more than 100 experts and he joins me now. ed, i'm glad you're here. this was a thought provoking and phenomenally comprehensive piece. it did not make me feel good but had to be read. it's fascinating for many reasons. you describe a perfect storm that contributed to how badly
the pandemic has played out in this country. how in the world did we get this so wrong? >> two ways of looking at it. the short form, the abdication from our federal government was clearly a massive problem. donald trump and his administration have side lined expertise, denuded the white house and didn't listen to warnings from the experts that actually existed. instead of creating coordinated plans about this pandemic, the administration distracted. it relied on measures like travel bans, like actually rolling out a solid testing asperatus. you also have to look at the long history of vulnerabilities that americans have accumulated over time. its long history of racism that have left black and brown people who are vulnerable to this virus, things like under funding
of public health, which have left it unable to do the kinds of preventive measures to keep people out of hospitals and then things like its reliance on a system of insurance that ties health care to employment, bizarrely, which is catastrophic when so many people have lost their jobs. >> not to mention that social distancing can be a luxury. we're talking about employment circumstances, housing insecurity and the like. ed, you write this about the president. you write, trump is a co morbidity of the covid-19 pandemic. he isn't solely responsible for the fiasco but is central to itment tonight he says the u.s. is doing very well and pointing to other countries with flare-ups trying to dodge responsibility. how is that part of what is undermining part of our ability to fight the pandemic here in the u.s.? >> all of this was predictable. i wrote a piece in 2016 after the election and before he was
inaugurated asking what he would do in a pandemic. i wrote that he would sew disinformation, that he would tweet rashly, that he would fail to listen to experts and all of these things have come to pass. donald trump has always shown us who he was and he's behaved in this crisis exactly as one would predict, as befitting of someone who is xenophobic, egotistical, narcissistic. all of these flaws are coming to bear right now, but i do want to remind everyone that while trump does bear responsibility for what has happened, he's not the only problem here. america did build up a large number of weaknesses that this virus found, exploited and tore apart. and certainly the election coming up is one way of addressing some of these problems, but we cannot just go back to normal, as many people long to do. normal led to this. normal was part of the problem
that made a society more prone to pan dem mix. if we want to sail oeal ourselv against the playingues and pan mix of the future, we need to reimagine what our world will be like. >> things that are predictable should be preventible. thank you for your time. this article thought provoking and points out all the ways that covid has magnified increasing inequities. you're right, he didn't start the fire, it's been burning, but there's a way to put it out. thank you. there are 260 employees of georgia's largest school district testing positive or been exposed to coronavirus. what this means for schools across the country as they attempt to reopen. that's next. g me and... [laughing] stop it! yeah. whoops! but julie has resolve pet expert. its latest formula attacks odors at the source. no odor. no stain. no nothin'. whatever happens, no big deal. resolve.
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author of the book "healthy buildings." i'm glad you're both here because i need to talk about this on behalf of all parents out there and educators. lisa, the plans to return have obviously become a mess. what are you hearing from the school district employees? >> i have heard the words scared to death more in the past month from educators than i have in my 20-year career. our educators realize that the community spread is so high, not only in guinette county but throughout our state that it is simply not safe to ask students or teachers to be returning to the buildings. we have educators who have actually resigned rather than make that choice so we are losing educators, not to the virus and sickness, but to the threat of losing their lives. >> is that also in part because i'm hearing that in guinette
county, the teachers are being told that the district is not liable if they were to contract covid-19 at work? is that one of the motivations for why they're resigning? >> that's one of the things that is leading the educators to feel that they don't have a choice. they're being told the district is not liable, that if they do become ill, they will have to use whatever sick leave they have and that also they are not allowed to have any option other than being in the building each day to teach their students while the students are working remotely. >> you know, joe, the president has just tweeted out this, open the schools. of course, these teachers, open the schools, three exclamation points. the teachers in georgia were exposed before schools even opened obviously. we're hearing an indiana school where a student tested positive to the virus on the very first
day back to school. is this what we're going to expect to see all across the country if we do what the president says and open up the schools? >> thanks for having me on first and foremost. the president continues to be unhelpful. he's been unhelpful since january. let's put him aside at the second. there are two things prescient, two things have to happen. knowing when to open, meaning what's the level of community spread? and knowing what to do if you open? meaning what robust risk strategies have to be in place in the school. if you look at what happened in georgia on the when, there are metrics to look at. it shows they should not be open right now. i put o out a report with colleagues that talks about the number of new cases per day per 100,000 people. if we're over 125, that's a red. when this county is at 37, they should not be in school. on the what to do, i looked at that county's plan. it's inadequate. first, they talk about cleaning and disinfection, that's good.
they talk about mask wearing, that's really good. although if you listen to teachers, they didn't wear masks very good. it does not talk about healthy building control strategies like enhanced ventilation and enhanced filtration. this isn't rocket science at this point. if we open schools when there's uncontrolled community spread and we don't put in the risk reduction measures, we should expect these kinds of cases and, therefore, we shouldn't be opening the schools. >> who pays for this? one of the factors and hurdles that people keep talking about is inadequate funding to implement those measures. >> yeah, that's a great question. my harvard healthy buildings program put out a 60 page report and we were careful to put in strategies that didn't have to cost a lot of money or break the bank realizing that they are resource constrained. bring in more fresh outdoor air. adding a portable air cleaner to
room can give you several air changes per hour of clean air on top of the things that must be done, like trying to maintain physical distancing. mask wearing is an absolute must indoors in schools. if you do these things, we can reduce risk. where those resources come from, we need a national mobilization. we're spending trillions of dollars in stimulus, reopening bars and casinos and not prioritizing schools. where is the funding? where is the national outrage over keeping kids out of schools. it's not like it's a surprise that we find ourselves in august to think about kids coming back to school. we have had since march to figure this out. it doesn't say much that we've prioritized other aspects and we're at the point where kids are home again for whoever knows how many months? >> joe and lisa, i know you're working hard. i wish i could hear more from you now. we know that you are working diligently to help them.
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obtained by the daily mail shows what happened in the last moments of george floyd's life and i warn you it's extremely sad to watch. george floyd was keenly aware that he could die during this police encounter, the encounter that began with officers approaching the car with guns drawn simply because of allegations about a counterfeit $20 bill. a non-violent offense. now knowing how this ends makes it all the more difficult to watch a man trying to comply with orders because he feared suffering from claustrophobia in a squad car only to be suffocated by an officer's knee in the end. the ambulance, as we all know, arrived too late. >> please. please.
>> [ bleep ]. >> sorry about that. >> that's right. >> well, the ambulance came but it was too late for george floyd who died after officer derek chauvin kept his knee on his neck for 8 minutes and 46 seblds. you heard officer thomas lee's voice mentioning he was worried about this thing called excited delirium. that's a phrase that gets thrown around a lot particularly when black men are involved. but the fact is, the concept of excited delirium is not even recognized by the american medical association or the american psychiatric association. the washington post calls it junk science and reports it stems from an 1849 description of patients with fever and delirium who likely were suffering from infections. the post goes on to report that
excited delirium is disproportionately diagnosed among young black men. but i want you to see more of that video obtained by the daily mail from the body cameras that were worn by two of the minneapolis police officers involved in the arrest of george floyd. and i warn you again, the video is disturbing. that's an understatement. it's also extremely sad to watch. cnn's omar jimenez has that story. >> put your hand up there. put your [ bleep ] hand up there. hands on the wheel. hands on the wheel. >> reporter: this partial body camera video obtained by the daily mail showing former officer thomas lane pointing a gun at george floyd within 25 seconds of he and former officer jay alexander king knocking on the door of the car floyd was in. they were responding to a call over a fraudulent $20 bill being
used at the store across the street. officers next seen here trying to get floyd out of the vehicle. >> step out and face away. >> please don't shoot me, mr. officer, please. don't shoot me. >> i'm not shooting. >> he's eventually pulled from the car and cuffed. >> stop resisting. >> i'm not. >> reporter: based on cnn's viewing of the complete body camera footage, this is the first of two struggles. the second, much more forceful as officers try to get floyd into the police squad car. floyd says he's klaus throw phobic. soon he's being pushed in on one side by king and pulled in on the other by lane seen in video obtained by the daily mail. >> i can't breathe. i can't breathe. please. i can't breathe. my wrist. my wrist, man.
>> reporter: this is the first time george floyd says, i can't breathe based on cnn's previous viewing of the video. they fall out on lane's side and go to the ground to what's now become an infamously familiar position, floyd's neck under the knee of derek chauvin. >> i can't breathe, officer. >> stop yelling. >> you're going to kill me. you're going to kill me, man. >> reporter: this is from the perspective of king's camera where not long after lane asks if floyd should be moved. >> please. please. please. please. >> roll him on his side? >> no. he's staying put where we got him. >> i just worry about exceeded delirium. >> chauvin now charged with
second degree murder and manslaughter. lane, kang and manslaughter. tao and lane have asked for their cases to be dismissed and king's attorney says he plans to plead not guilty. attorneys for the four officers either declined comment or did not respond. omar jimenez, cnn. >> omar, watching that makes my stomach turn as i'm sure it does for all of you. there are also new cases of coronavirus on mlb and nfl teams. can they contain the view sflus and what does this say about the country's attempts to reopen? want to brain better?
the coronavirus is wreaking havoc. major league baseball has announced 7 cardinals players and 6 team staffers all have tested positive for the coronavirus just in the past week. it's the latest curveball as teams struggle to contain outbreaks. so how can sports really move forward with the virus if it's still out of control? joining me now to discuss, cnn contributor bob costas, the right man for this conversation. bob, the major league baseball commissioner did threaten to shut down the season if teams
and players don't do a better job managing it. tonight in response to questions whether members of the cardinals took a trip to the casino before the outbreak, the team president responded in this way. listen to this. >> i have no factual reason to believe that is true and i have not seen any proof of it. if someone was at a casino though, that would be disappointing. >> casino rumors aside, it's clear the mlb has a big problem, bob. >> yeah, they do. eight teams have had their schedules affected in one way or another. you have teams now with widely differing numbers of games played. even if you're only playing a make shift 60 game season which they proposed to do, you have to have some sort of scheduling equity before you can seed the playoffs. the field of dreams they were planning where they shot the
kevin costner movie, that was canceled. that was supposed to happen later on this month. it would have involved the cardinals. so just from a competitive standpoint there's a lot of havoc, if that's the right word, and then from a medical standpoint what seems to have been established, and i underline seems, laura, is that it's unlikely that the virus is going to be passed outside playing baseball. teams that oppose the marlins and the cardinals have not had positives among their players because of that exposure. it seems that it's in groups, teams that travel together. they're on the road together or may breaking protocols going out socially together. that's where the greatest risk of transmission seems to be. >> do you mean like football? because not just baseball here. the eagles announced yesterday that the head coach of the philadelphia eagles tested positive, doug pedersen, for covid-19. apparently he's asymptomatic and doing well but the nfl season is
still set to begin in september. if you think about all the sports that one could play during a pandemic and not spread the virus, i mean, is football one of them? >> well, think about it this way. forget about sports. if you just said to somebody, make a list of the ten activities that are least advisable under these circumstances, playing football might be one of them. where there's constant close contact on every play and, by the way, where they huddle, 11 players, 22 really on each side of the ball, huddle on every play. and they can't go into a bubble like hockey and basketball and they're playing fall and winter, if they play at all, during the time of the year where the best guess is that there might be a second wave of the virus. baseball had their fingers crossed that if everybody followed protocols, the nature of the sport didn't involve as much close contact and they might be able to get through the shortened season. basketball, which obviously has close contact, people breathing and sweating on each other, but they're in the bubble and
haven't had a single positive test and the same thing is you troo of the nhl playing in bubbles of their own. >> all of those leagues involve adults. let's talk about college. northwestern university said it's pausing its football workouts after a student athlete as you know tested positive from coronavirus. i want to read this tweet from jamel hill over the weekend. quote, a reminder that unpaid college football players are essentially being forced to return to their sport because entire economies have been built around their labor. so, bob, i mean, considering that, should there be a different calculation for college athletes and college football in particular? >> absolutely, laura, and jamel is 100% right. it might be inadvisable to play nfl football, but it is outrage us to consider playing college football under these circumstances.
i'm not downplaying the importance of a scholarship, however, beyond that, these players are not compensated and they have no union to protect their interests. and only the tiniest fraction of them will ever make a career out of football beyond college. beyond that, it looks like most campuses will not have typical activities going on. so doesn't that expose what too often is the sham of big-time college sports, that you'd be asking these unpaid young people to play to attract television money when there are no students on campus, where they're learning virtually, they're not at the games. isn't this supposed to be a student athlete experience? it wouldn't be. >> wouldn't be. sham is the right word for it. thank you, everyone, for watching. our coverage continues.
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