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this is great opportunity for this president and for the team and for women and for the current. invite the women's team. they dominated the rest of the world. it would be the best application of the slogan america first. sure, rapinoe might take a pass. others on the team may as well. so what. that's their choice. this is america. the team won on the biggest stage. the president should showcase them. he should call on u.s. soccer to pay them equally. own the bully pulpit. you love the bully pulpit, mr. president and this is a time all of us would want to hear what you say. it would be a great thing for the president, the team. women and the country. simple argument that's it. thanks for watching "cnn tonight." we have d. lemon right now. >> why are you trying to cause trouble already? i just got back from vacation. you're trying to cause trouble saying the president should invite them. you know what's going on. >> what's going on? >> he's fighting with rapinoe. >> get over it. that's my argument. >> i'm not going to the white house.
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>> surrender the me to the we. if she doesn't want to come she doesn't have to come. she scored a hell of a goal. but bring them and then he should go and say, hey, u.s. soccer, you don't want to get on my bad side. pay them what they're worth. what a big win for him. what a win for everybody. >> oh, chris. so quaint. you're so positive. >> boy, you know, you really are something. you come off a weekend everybody is loving on you. you have your family around. your mom who awkwardly says i'm better looking than you are. and go right back into the hole. >> she did not say that. >> she did. >> can we get back to soccer? okay. >> why all the hate? >> i'm not hating. >> hating on my whole argument. >> you're being quaint. listen, yes, it would be great but, you're a little bit naive. it would be great if he would do that but you know he's not going
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to do that. >> maybe edge. maybe he'll invite them and all king "kumbaya" in the west wing. >> some don't come. i don't care. don't come. i'm happy for the team. pay them equally. they deserve it. they're the best. >> you may think people at home are going to say, wow. i think if he has a right to be upset. if someone said that. i'm going to the you know what white house. he has a right to be upset. if someone said that about me, i'm not sure i would invite them into the place i'm living. >> you're not the president. >> i know. >> not yet anyway. >> not yet. >> he has a stewardship of the whole country. >> you're right. >> and he's played this out before and he's seen how it plays with the media. this time it could be different. i know i don't like what they said about me. but the team won, congratulations, come. get a little bit behind the scenes. make sure that most of them are going to be there. that's not the story. and even if it were the story, you steal the story by saying,
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hey, u.s. soccer, pay them. >> i want to talk about the equity. what do you think? there's a lot of schools of thought on equity in yen with pay and gender equity when it comes to pay. we've been talking about megan rapinoe. she's one hell of a player. a number of ladies. not everybody on the team plays as well as everybody on the team. does everybody get the same amount of money? >> they have different performance bonuses. here's the sticking point. i don't like the sticking point because i believe it's a distraction of the cultural bias. their collective bargaining deal is different than the men. the men are all bonus related. the women have a base salary. the legal argument is blame the union. all right? this is about what's going on there. >> part of the negotiation with their attorneys, too? >> a little bit. there's a culture of bias. it is so hard to show that u.s.
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women's soccer is so much less valuable than the men's soccer. that at least in the world cup sphere, they should be paid as little as they are. >> i'll say this, maybe you have the argument a couple years ago. you don't have it now with the performance of the women. we postponed our trip to hang out yesterday to watch this. to watch this game. >> the whole country was watching. the ratings were huge. and rightly so. so dramatic and so well played. i love the swagger and their edge. it's a culture. women don't get paid what men do because they haven't been valued the same way. it's great to see this. even though they're close, some of the estimates put them at about 90 cents a dollar. why aren't they 100%? >> same thing happens, it's not just gender. it's race. >> you can't have the weird counterargument that we use these days, a lot of women make different choices when it comes to work.
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a lot of them stay home. a lot of them want to work less hours. there's a culture of discrimination. a great opportunity to expose it. >> i will gladly stay home if you pay my bills. >> i would pay to keep you off television. >> i got to go. i have seen enough of you all last week and tonight. >> never enough for me. >> i'll see you. thank you. you were very kind yesterday. this is such a good man. our families were out hanging out yesterday. they were on chris' boat. my brother-in-law had a medical emergency. nobody was better to him than chris. made sure he made it to the hospital. he's having tests. he's still there. thank you, i love you. >> i was happy to be there with everybody and i hope he's well. >> thank you. i'll update you. this is "cnn tonight." and it is good to be back. so let's talk about the white house. a white house with an angry president governed by tweet and throwing his administration into confusion. so let's begin with
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the reaction to leaked diplomatic cables from the british ambassador to the u.s. who called the president inept, insecure and incompetent. well, diplomatic cables obviously are supposed to be private so perhaps you can't blame the president for being offended. the president launched a public twitter tirade up cysting the ambassador is not liked or well thought of in the u.s. and saying we will no longer deal with him. well, tonight the ambassador to no one's surprise disinvited from the white house for the emir of qatar. then there's the justice department tying itself up into knots trying to come up with a rationale for putting a citizenship question on the 2020 census.
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after the president tweeted, of course, he tweeted. he was absolutely moving forward with the question even though the supreme court ruled against him. now the entire legal team that was representing the administration just last week is being replaced. a source telling cnn they would have been in an awkward position of having to contradict themselves in court to get the president what he wants. attorney general barr who from the beginning has been on message to his audience of one insisting that he'll have a pathway for putting the question on the census in a day or two. stay tuned. let's not forget. what this whole thing is about, the census determines the size of each states congressional delegation. are you listening? it determines the size of each states congressional delegation. how many votes it has in the electoral college. are you following me? how the federal government spends hundreds of millions of dollars. so a question designed to exclude noncitizens is a very big deal. house speaker nancy pelosi, the president's nemesis, saying
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this -- >> this is about keeping -- you know, make america -- you know his hat. make america white again. they want to make sure that people, certain people are counted. >> she didn't hold back. there's also the president's labor secretary. alexander acosta in the hot seat tonight. critics calling for him to resign over his past involvement as then u.s. attorney in florida in giving a sweetheart deal to a multi-millionaire jeffrey epstein. yes, the same jeffrey epstein who today was charged in the southern district of new york with operating a sex trafficking ring in which he sexually abused dozens of underage girls. he's accused of doing that. epstein was able to evade similar charges in florida a decade ago when acosta gave him a knopf prosecution deal allowing him to plead
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guilty to two lesser charges and serve just 13 months in prison. now that deal, it maybe coming back to haunt acosta. did you hear the president's speech today on of all things his record on the environment? >> from day one my administration has made it a top priority to ensure that america has among the very cleanest air and cleanest water on the planet. we want the cleanest air. we want crystal clean water. and that's what we're doing. that's what we're working on so hard. >> so this from the president who withdrew from the paris climate accord as the planet grapples with a climate emergency. the fact is, as we say around here, facts first. the past four years have been the hottest on record, and the global average sea level has already risen seven to eight inches. there's also the massive
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humanitarian crisis that's happening at the southern border. homeland security's own internal watchdog released photographs of what they call dangerous overcrowding and called on the government to do something about it. do something. president admitting the detention centers are crowded which doesn't even begin to tell you the full story and playing politics by blaming democrats for the results of his own policies. >> detention centers are really fool and they have to change the loopholes and they have to change the immigration laws. we can do it quickly but we have no votes to do it. >> congresswoman sheila jackson lee attempted to visit two texas detention centers today and was turned around but was invited to reschedule. she said this. >> this is a natural and manmade disaster. this is a disaster brought on by the president's irresponsible, inhumane policy.
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>> but, and this is a surprise, the president was really, really hot under the collar this weekend about his old friends at fox news. the president tweeting this, he said fox news is changing fast. but they forgot the people who got them there. apparently the network has relied -- he's relied on to be a megaphone to his base is not sufficiently supportive. and speaking of playing to his base, there's this. the president retweeting what reports to be a quote from ronald reagan predicting a trump presidency. and if it sounded too good to be true, well, that's because it's not true. the quote. for the life of me, and i'll never know how to explain it, when i met that young man i felt like i was the one shaking his hand with the president. the tweet was -- the tweet has since been deleted and the quote is fake.
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rated pants on fire. and the chief administrator officer for the institute said of the 40th president, quote, he did not ever say that about donald trump. so is all this playing to the base. all this anger tweeting? a sign that the president is nervous about his chances in 2020? after all, nothing means more to this president than winning. >> you know what, you want to know something? do you want to know something? we always win. we always win. >> it is no surprise that the president is looking over his shoulder. there are more than 20 democrats vying for the chance to run against him. they'll go head to head. in our two-night cnn democratic presidential debate, dana bash, jake tapper and i will moderate it july 30 and 31 live from detroit. odds are, the president will be watching.
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the author of "corrosion of surpl surpl conservatism:are why i left the right." michael d'antonio. the author of "the truth about trump." joining us as well. good evening. good to see you. i missed you. >> we missed you. >> not really. but anyway, all right. max, start with you. the president is angry at fox news of all places. i don't know. what do you want to call them, outfits? live he's working overtime to get the citizenship question on the census. defending the border facilities. the dustup with the uk ambassador. why is he so defensive and angry? >> i think this is just part of his personality. he talks about being a winner he really has the mentality of a loser. he has the mentality of somebody who feels like he's always being picked upon. everything is unfair. remember a few weeks ago on he said he has been treated worse than any president in u.s. history including a number of
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presidents who were killed in office. that's quite a statement. that is his mentality. in some ways that's the secret of his success. even though he's a trust fund baby who inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his father, incredibly lucky by any use of that term, he nevertheless has this feeling that he's an out outer borough guy, everybody is against him. he's a new york guy. the country is against him. the fake news is against him, the democrats are against him. he's the president of the united states the most powerful person in the world. he feels like a victim. that's what gives him an edge and drives him. and connects with his voters. they also have a feeling the elites are against them and trump is kind of channeling their anger. >> michael, you get a different perspective when you look back. i wonder how much -- it's so much of the same thing all the time. he goes back to the same old thing. the same playbook. how much is performance art?
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if he's really angry or just playing to the base. and playing to what he thinks will keep him in power. >> i'm not sure he's had a genuine emotion in decades. this person plans every response to every question. every situation. he's faking it most of the time. so this method that he has of being angry is really about his brand and his brand is about hatred and resentment and a bit of a snowflake. he's always a victim. i think max is right about that. you also see in him this desire to be a tough guy to be kind of mean under any circumstance. i take this back to the children who are asylum seekers and who have been separated from their parents. six of them died. there was a child seen in a river a few days ago. he's mean about them.
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he's practically a presidential child abuser. and yet he keeps going. this hatred of his. for immigrants for the judiciary. for members of his administration. he thinks that hate sells. and in some ways he's right. >> do you think he realizes it's hate? >> i think he does. i think this was planned out. his campaign in 2015, the announcement was a hate announcement. the whole campaign was hate motivates more than love and in some circumstances it does. >> and fear. susan, i want to bring you in. you have been sitting by patiently. on the uk ambassador story, here you have the ambassador calling the president inept in leaked diplomatic cables. probably anybody would be mad if things were supposed to be confidential and they get leaked but it's embarrassing to the president. he disinvited him to a dinner. is it understandable? >> well, look. it seems like there's a lot of british political machination
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behind why these cables have become nub now. an effort by pro-brexiteers and that's something trump has cheerleaded for. he has interviewed in accomplbr politics so the idea and commented on the competence of theresa may and her administration and the london mayor. it's not uncommon in international politics to moments like this. it's very unusual for a secret cable like this in the british foreign office to being public. what did he say? he said the things we're talking about. you can read them in michael d'antonio's book. you can read them in maximum boots' column. you can listen to don lemon at night and hear all these things. the ambassador was essentially relating things that are on the front page of the newspaper. and of course president trump by throwing him out by tweet it maybe the world's first known
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instance of an ambassador being declared persona non grata by tweet. he essentially proved the ambassador's point. the president is an extremely insecure and thin skinned leader. it's going to go down one of the telling little moments. was it inappropriate? the british government is standing behind their ambassador and saying that he was merely doing his job which is provide candid information to his colleagues. >> yeah. i want to get these polls in. all of this is happening. his poll numbers are ticking up. let's put them up. he's now polling at 44% in the new "the washington post"/abc news poll. that's up from 39% in april. despite all the chaos the numbers are slightly up. is this good news for the president? are you surprised? >> obviously good news for the president. it may be bad news for our democracy. it's good for trump. in a sense i am surprised.
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let's remember this is after pretty conclusive evidence that he obstructed justice and after an accusation he was guilty of rain and none of it hinders him. it basically comes down to as james car asylville used to say the economy, stupid. the economy is kind of lifting up all boats including donald trump's poll numbers. he's clearly benefitting from that. the reality is he still is not getting above 50%. he's the first president who is never above 50% in the first team even though the economy is great. that comes down to his own behavior and crazy conduct. his crazy tweets. if he would stop tweeting and if he would just shut up and just limit himself to teleprompter speeches, his poll numbers would go up ten points. but he couldn't handle that psychologically. he needs the psychological release on venting on the word and doing it every single day
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even though the picture he presents to the public is of somebody who is not in his right mind which is why his poll numbers are well below where they should be given the economy. >> it's interesting because you're not the first person to say if he sat there and didn't say anything until the election he probably would poll better and do better in the election rather than venting because these are your words, psychologically he needs to vent. susan, i want to ask you about the president. he gave a speech on the environment today touting his administration's environmental leadership which is confusing we have seen the rollbacks. he denies there's a climate crisis. why this speech? and why now? >> i'm glad you asked. i was very confused. you played the clip he was talking about how we're working very hard to make clean air, clean water. >> everything clean. >> we're working very hard. it didn't seem like the president was even really very sure of where he was going with this. apparently i saw reporting in
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the papers this morning even some key officials in his administration were unaware of the speech. it seems it's a political appeal. to independents perhaps who are turned off by him. it's hardly likely to be convincing. this is an administration that is officially a climate change denying administration. and has gone to war to roll back environmental regulations and a host of other kinds of regulations. so i'm not sure what the record there was. it's a very puzzling example of the lack of transparency in the trump administration. this is exactly the kind of thing you would imagine would come up in great detail in a white house press briefing. there's a new white house press secretary. she already has established i think a nod modern record of zero press briefings. and again it's just completely
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mystifying to me. >> michael, i'm going to ask you, did you see the president's big fourth of july sell brakes? >> i did catch a little bit of it. he was obscured by the rain. that was on the screen. he was there. >> he's going to bring it back next year, he says. no surprise? >> no surprise. i was really taken with the russians kind of mocking him for it. it was a rather pathetic show. a few aircraft now and then. a couple tanks parked beside him. when you think about the grand marshal displays that the soviet union was able to muster and china, north korea musters. it was nothing compared to them. i found myself wondering if the pentagon wasn't kind of trolling him. it's like you want tanks? here's a couple little tanks you can put to the side. you want some aircraft? okay, here's a coast guard helicopter. it was him trying to stage a moment. i don't think he got what he wanted.
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maybe that's why he's going to do it again. he needs it for his highlight reel. >> i always watch the celebrations and i think what's most impressive about what we do is the reserve and how we do it. when we do the 21 gun salute or we have the jets fly over while the national anthem is playing is always moving to me rather than stage craft for the just being there. thank you all. i appreciate it. good to be back. we have more on the president's feud with the british ambassador. i'll ask a top diplomat from the clinton administration what he thinks about the rift. that's next. ign? when i needed to jumpstart sales. build attendance for an event. help people find their way. fastsigns designed new directional signage. ...and got them back on track. get started at
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the white house disinviting british ambassador kim darroch from the dinner with president trump after leaked cables quoted him describing trump as inept and dysfunctional. earlier today the president vowed his administration would no longer deal with the ambassador. so let's discuss now with jamie rubin, assistant secretary of state in the clinton administration. thank you for coming on this evening. >> happy to be here. >> a uk government spokesperson put out a statement calling the leak unfortunate by expressing the prime minister's full support of the ambassador. i would love to hear what you think about this as diplomat yourself. >> as an american diplomat i was not in the government. remember, the united states went through this process multiplied by 100 in the wikileaks case in 2010. every single cable from each country around the world put out by our ambassadors was put out
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by wikileaks and the secretary of state had to spend the next two years apologizing. it does grave damage for people's ability to operate. and in the british case, i think it's probably less damaging to the relationship because the relationship isn't really great under president trump and theresa may. imagine what an american diplomat would be writing about theresa may over the last year and a half who had a terrible time and had to resign essentially. and imagine what they would be writing about boris johnson who's had a series of episodes over the last several years. its the ambassador's job to be candid. i'm not surprised by what he wrote. what he's reflect something the conventional wisdom in washington about the trump administration. and since the british are not really as important to the united states as they have been
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in the past, if you go back to george w. bush and tony blair or bill clinton and tony blair, those big meetings were meaningful to the world. britain has been busy brexiting and really can't do anything else and they can't seen seem to do that. so their involvement with major issues around the world is far less and germany and france are picking up the slack. >> i want to read some of it. he said he was inept and all that of. he warns trump could have been indebted to dodgy russians and his systems could wreck the world trade system. and could attack iran. do you think the observations would be that different from any other diplomat? >> right now i'm sure there are several major ambassadors to major countries in washington who have written similar things. certainly about iran where the president ordered an air strike and stopped it before it took
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place and reversed course. there are a lot of countries who believe that one false step by the united states or iran and we'll be back into the use of force. on world trade, let's remember that the president came into office, this is his decision, he decided immediately to criticize the british ambassador and say he would prefer to have a different ambassador. and so, you know, it didn't start off all that well and on trade, traditionally the united states has imagined the british as a special longstanding ally similar to the french. but as president trump has made clear and the administration made clear, he has no permanent allies. he has transactions. is this transaction good or bad? is that transaction good or bad in the trade area primarily.
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so i think ambassador darroch is correctly assessing the collapse of the free trading system that the united states used to advocate, lead and promote and treasure. >> did you read anything in the leaks that struck you as way off base? >> it would be fair to say all the sentiments are things any washington cocktail party, diplomatic dinner, democrats sitting around talking, those are the kind of things that critics of the president would say. >> even republicans not in public, some would say. >> more than just a few. president trump and most of the cases here that we're talking about, free trade versus the president's tariffs. the fact he has treated european allies without a lot of presumed respect. remember what happened with the german chancellor, the french president and the british prime minister as compared to the
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russian president or chinese president where president trump goes out of his way to make things as nice personally as possible. so he's made that decision for good or ill. and i think we shouldn't imagine that this is going to cause a collapse in u.s. british diplomacy. one, because the president hasn't focused on it and, two, because britain isn't the same ally we used to think of four years ago, eight years ago when we would be in a difficult spot and the british were next to us working with us hand in glove on diplomatic challenges around the world. they haven't been able to focus because they're busy trying to figure out if they can -- >> no long term effect? >> -- leave the eu. i don't think so. the real relationship, let's face it, is an intelligence community relationship, a military to military relationship, the fact we speak the same language, the business community, the western values
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that we share, and those are not permanently damaged by a bad relationship at the top. if they were getting along great, as we may have with boris johnson, i mean, imagine that and imagine what american diplomats will write about johnson. >> that's got to be the last word. it's always a pleasure to have you on. thank you so much. >> a multi-millionaire with friends in high places facing ferdinand sex trafficking charges tonight. why he got a plea deal more than a decade ago and who could be worried now. try new clean freak! it has three times the cleaning power of the leading spray to dissolve kitchen grease on contact. and it's great for bathrooms! just keep pumping the power nozzle to release a continuous burst of mist and make quick work of big jobs. it even works on stainless steel. it cuts through 100% of dirt, grease and grime. available with easy-to-swap refills. to get three times the cleaning power,
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federal prosecutors in the southern district of new york announcing criminal charges against multimillionaire jeffrey epstein today charging him with having operated a sex trafficking ring in which he
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sexually abused dozens of underage girls. allegations that circulated around the businessman for years. we have more. >> reporter: lurid sexual allegations again against multi-millionaire investment banker jeffrey epstein. new york prosecutors looking for more. >> if you believe you are a victim of this man, jeffrey epstein, we want to hear from you. >> reporter: the allegations over four years epstein lured underage women, some as young as 14. to massage him and engage in sexual acts in his palm beach, florida, and new york homes. epstein has pleaded not guilty to the charges. epstein arrested saturday on his private jet upon returning from paris. shortly after investigators forced their way into his manhattan mansion. in addition to finding hundreds possibly thousands of photos of nude and partially nude young women, some of them locked in a safe, investigators found, quote, compact disks with handwritten
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labels including the following young name plus name, miscellaneous nudes one and girl pics nude. >> the alleged behavior shocks the conscience. >> already a registered sex offender after agreeing to a plea deal in florida in 2008 related by sexual crimes. the man who headed the florida case, alex acosta, now secretary of labor in the trump administration. >> at the end of the day, mr. epstein went to jail. epstein was incarcerated. he registered as a sex offender. >> "the miami herald" in an investigative report helping prompt today's charges found acosta signed off an a deal essentially shutting down the fbi investigation giving immunity to any potential co-conspirators allowing the multi-millionaire to pay restitution to his victims, register as a sex offender and plead guilty to two state charges. he spent 13 months in palm beach
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county jail. he was allowed to leave six days a week, 12 hours at a time. >> the world is put on notice he was a sex offender. and the victims received restitution. >> epstein's connections go beyond acosta photographed here with donald trump in 1997 and 2000 at the president's mar-a-lago estate in florida. in february this year the president had this to stay about his labor secretary and the plea deal given to his longtime friend. >> i don't know too much about it. he's done a great job as labor secretary and that seems like a long time ago. >> in a 2002 "new york" magazine epstein profile, trump said i have known jeff for 15 years. terrific guy. he's a lot of fun to be with. it is even said he likes beautiful women as much as i do. and many of them are on the younger side. >> just yesterday the president had this to say about jeffrey epstein.
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here to discuss with us, jennifer rogers and shimon prokupecz. thank you both for joining us. jennifer, when you see this evidence, literally, dozens of victims many underage identified by federal how on earth did jeffrey epstein get such a sweetheart deal in the first place? he served 13 months in jail. basically he could leave for six days a week, correct? how did this happen? >> well, we don't know and we are hopefully going to find out in a couple of ways. one is the department of justice inspector general is investigating this right now. how did he get this prosecution agreement from alex acosta's office years ago. states pushed down their charges all the time. the question is how did he get a complete pass from the feds at the time. that's what everybody is wondering about. i think we'll get answers from the inspector general.
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>> so you mentioned that they opened this -- the doj opened the investigation into jeffrey epstein's decade-old plea brokered by alexander acosta who is now the secretary of labor in the trump administration. what is the potential legal outcome for acosta right now? is there a legal -- >> it's highly unlikely. i mean, if he actually were bribed, if there was some sort of quid pro quo, he got something of value from epstein in order to give him the non-prosecution agreement then you would have a charge, but more likely he didn't bring the charges because of some sort of political pressure, you know, he described how hard it was to do battle with the defense lawyers. how they were constantly pressing him, pressing him. it may be, you know, he didn't lawyer it as hard as he should have, really. >> he just didn't lawyer it as hard as he should have? >> yeah, he wasn't aggressive enough of a prosecutor. southern district prosecutors are very aggressive. prosecutors everywhere are not,
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you know, necessarily reaching that same level, and he may have just given up. >> so all of this talk about -- i'm going to bring you in. somebody having, you know, tons of money and great lawyers, whatever. does that play into this? >> it makes a difference. absolutely. no question. >> these are some great lawyers that were defending him and he still has -- he's -- he has a powerhouse team. you can be a u.s. assistant attorney, a line assistant, it doesn't matter. these attorneys meeting with you and beating you down and coming at you day in, saying i want to run this by the department of justice. i want this plea agreement. why don't we run this by? some people caved. that's what the inspector general is going to look at, what this appropriate conduct? we'll wait and see. there is a lot of outrage. everybody should be looking at this to figure out what happened here. >> there are big political connections here. action da acosta, apparently also he knew the president. but the former president, i'm talking about he apparently knew the current president, the
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former president bill clinton released a statement saying in part president clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes jeffrey epstein pleaded guilty to in florida some years ago. those with which he has been recently charged in new york. while it acknowledges that clinton travelled in epstein's private jet some four times, like 26, but it says four times, the clinton folks are saying the last trip was in 2003. so, i mean, what can you tell us? those are big connections. >> these are very big connections. and, you know, when you think about the sdny and the u.s. attorney's office, this is obviously all something that they take into consideration in this investigation. and when they said, you know what, we don't care who you know, we don't care what you've done, we don't care that you've gotten this sweetheart deal, that you got a no prosecution agreement, we're going to challenge all that and bring our own case. in the end, what we saw from the prosecutors is this is about the victims. berman talked about this, we need to allow the victims to have a chance, their day in
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court, their voices to be heard. that was the outrage in all of this, these victims they never got their moment to come in. this deal done silently. secretly. the victims weren't even told of the deal that epstein got. that was the big focus today. >> let me ask you something, two things real quick. this is a repeat of what happened in florida so this shouldn't be happening. does that hold any water? >> no, paw the charges involve both conduct in florida and also here. >> the significance of this being handled by the public corruption unit of the u.s. manhattan district attorney's office. >> unclear. they could be looking at acosta. >> prosecutors say don't read too much into that. they kept warning us a lot today. there is a lot of information out there. a lot of it inabiliccurate. a lot of people speculating on different facts of the case. you can't help but read into it, right? did they think maybe there was inappropriate conduct within the government, right?
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maybe acosta or something. so, therefore, that's what started it, but it doesn't necessarily mean that anyone in the government is going to be charged with doing anything wrong. >> i've got to go. it will all come out. i moon, obviously. we'll see what happens. thank you, jennifer. thank you, shimon. appreciate it. joe and jill biden sitting down with chris cuomo. what they're saying about 2020 and the democrats taking aim at the former vice president. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ award winning interface. award winning design. award winning engine. the volvo xc90. the most awarded luxury suv of the century. discover elvive protein recharge leave-in conditioner. our heat protecting formula,
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this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. with 2020 looming there are some big developments tonight for the president and in the crowded democratic field. a new poll shows that a strong economy is helping to boost president trump's job approval, now at 44%. that is up five points since april. at the same time, "the washington post"/abc survey shows biden is not only still leading the democratic pack, but boating the president by a full ten points. there is good news for massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. her campaign reports she raised just over $19 million in the second quarter this year. reflecting new momentum in her compare after struggling early on. the democratic field is a little less crowded tonight. congressman eric swalwell dropping out of the race. his campaign failed to gain any traction. i want to talk about this, take a look at


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