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this is bbc news. the headlines: as the un climate summit in glasgow runs into extra time, delegates are considering a third draught of an agreement to try to put a limit on global warming. the conference president, alok sharma, has called for a final injection of "can—do spirit". the summit should have ended on friday evening, but negotiators are now expected to work through the night, with the aim of formally finishing on saturday afternoon. steve bannon, a former aide to donald trump, has been indicted by a federal grand jury. he's charged with contempt of congress, after refusing to give evidence to the committee investigating the january 6 assault on the capitol. britney spears has been handed back control of her life and career by a los angeles court. a judge has agreed to terminate a guardianship order imposed 13 years ago, following concerns for her mental health. dutch police have used water cannons on protestors, after a partial lockdown was announced by the government.
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for at least three weeks, shops and cafes will close early and sporting fixtures will be held behind closed doors. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are broadcaster penny smith and martin bentham, home affairs editor of the evening standard. welcome to both of you. penny, i should imagine this is an ungodly time of the day for someone who spends so much of their career getting a at silly o'clock!
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actually, it is a long time since i've had to get up rather early, i do a afternoon show. find i've had to get up rather early, i do a afternoon show. and martin, you do a afternoon show. and martin, you do not mind — do a afternoon show. and martin, you do not mind being _ do a afternoon show. and martin, you do not mind being a _ do a afternoon show. and martin, you do not mind being a night _ do a afternoon show. and martin, you do not mind being a night owl, - do a afternoon show. and martin, you do not mind being a night owl, do - do not mind being a night owl, do you? do not mind being a night owl, do ou? , ., you? even if you get tired... laughter — laughter we have some papers to look at. starting with the financial times, which has a report claiming that a number of emails were exchanged between the ex—barclays boss jes staley and jeffrey epstein. 1200 in all. it also covers the introduction of new lockdown measures in the netherlands, after coronavirus infection rates there hit their highest level since the pandemic began. meanwhile, the i has a special report on how the government here expects the coronavirus pandemic to end. it says there are three scenarios being set out, with the most likely seeing the world moving on from covid late next year or into 2023. the guardian has a story on its front page in which it alleges that the villa
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which the prime minister stayed at in a recent holiday in marbella has been linked to tax evasion. the lawyer for the company says the case was not one of tax evasion. the times leads with calls from the british government for french authorities to take more action to stop people crossing the channel, after almost 1,200 migrants made the journey in one day this week. let's begin, let's start with the guardian, if we can. it is all cop, of course. a good cop or a bad cop, i suppose! let's start with this headline, still no deal as the deadline passes. the newspaper's way of saying, we are not ignoring the story, wejust of saying, we are not ignoring the story, we just cannot have a headline that guarantees a developing by tomorrow morning! we developing by tomorrow morning! - are expecting, have been expecting the statement, and we do not have
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the statement, and we do not have the statement, and we do not have the statement, so as you say, is really a case to actually acknowledge that it is coming to and and and there will be a statement at some stage, but all we can sentiment is that still no deal. that rather terrifying statement, 2050, ie within 30 years, food and water at risk, and the thing that i think that anybody would say is that, yes, there are so many problems whenever you look at this, and no greta thunberg has been going blah, blah, blah —— and i know. and it feels like that to so many people. we see floods and droughts — i think nobody really can deny that our weather has changed and our weather has changed for the worse. there is nobody where you can say, do you know what?
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things are improving. they have not. we do need to do something. the problem is, whenever you've got a talking shop like this, you've got the people who are saying, listen, you've got rid of all your trees, you've got rid of all your trees, you've done all your stuff, you made your money off the back of that, we are doing this because you want to make ends meet, and it is all about, �*twas ever thus. humans are like that. if you say to somebody, dams today or damn tomorrow? dams today! because you might be dead tomorrow! martin, you might have sympathy for your intelligence difficulties, published on saturday when this is going on. —— sympathy for your newspaper colleagues. chances are, some but he is going to pick this newspaper up tomorrow midday and it
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is all finished. you newspaper up tomorrow midday and it is all finished.— is all finished. you said at the beginning _ is all finished. you said at the beginning it — is all finished. you said at the beginning it is _ is all finished. you said at the beginning it is all _ is all finished. you said at the beginning it is all cop - is all finished. you said at the beginning it is all cop for - is all finished. you said at the beginning it is all cop for live | beginning it is all cop for live news — beginning it is all cop for live news programmes for your own. for newspaper, — news programmes for your own. for newspaper, given the front pages, we have seen_ newspaper, given the front pages, we have seen them so far, the reason you have _ have seen them so far, the reason you have said, yes, it is a thing that— you have said, yes, it is a thing that is— you have said, yes, it is a thing that is going to define the whole future _ that is going to define the whole future for— that is going to define the whole future for the rest of the world, life and — future for the rest of the world, life and death matter for people even _ life and death matter for people even in — life and death matter for people even in the short—term, really, but it is very— even in the short—term, really, but it is very hard — even in the short—term, really, but it is very hard to boil down, and as you rightly— it is very hard to boil down, and as you rightly said, danger newspapers, we know _ you rightly said, danger newspapers, we know it _ you rightly said, danger newspapers, we know it is a fact, but the draught _ we know it is a fact, but the draught statement, if it is agreed, it is not— draught statement, if it is agreed, it is not coming out until tomorrow, so the _ it is not coming out until tomorrow, so the important detail won't be known _ so the important detail won't be known until well after people and picked _ known until well after people and picked up — known until well after people and picked up the papers in reading them and so _ picked up the papers in reading them and so on. _ picked up the papers in reading them and so on, and therefore... it is notjust, — and so on, and therefore... it is notjust, it _ and so on, and therefore... it is notjust, it is— and so on, and therefore... it is notjust, it is more than detail, isn't _ notjust, it is more than detail, isn't it. — notjust, it is more than detail, isn't it, almost? listening to your guest _ isn't it, almost? listening to your guest this— isn't it, almost? listening to your guest this evening, for example, making _ guest this evening, for example, making the point about how the thing
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finally— making the point about how the thing finally ends up is absolutely critical, _ finally ends up is absolutely critical, and so whether it really tries— critical, and so whether it really tries to — critical, and so whether it really tries to uphold paris... ed miliband was talking — tries to uphold paris... ed miliband was talking about the fact that you need a _ was talking about the fact that you need a yearly review to accelerate, to catch _ need a yearly review to accelerate, to catch up — need a yearly review to accelerate, to catch up that gap between the objectives of paris and with the current— objectives of paris and with the current goals will deliver, and so all current goals will deliver, and so at! of— current goals will deliver, and so all of these things are quickly important. from a newspaper point of view _ important. from a newspaper point of view, we _ important. from a newspaper point of view, we don't know what the answer is, even _ view, we don't know what the answer is, even in _ view, we don't know what the answer is, even in the section going forward _ is, even in the section going forward. there is a question about implementation and so on, but it is very difficult, so exactly as you say, _ very difficult, so exactly as you say, it — very difficult, so exactly as you say, it is — very difficult, so exactly as you say, it is something for a newspaper that is— say, it is something for a newspaper that is impossible to cover very effectively. all you can do is cover what _ effectively. all you can do is cover what has — effectively. all you can do is cover what has been debated about where you think— what has been debated about where you think it is going to go, and may be some _ you think it is going to go, and may be some longer term look forward, as regards _ be some longer term look forward, as regards of— be some longer term look forward, as regards of what is actually is decided, _ regards of what is actually is decided, what happens and the
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reality— decided, what happens and the reality of— decided, what happens and the reality of whether people enforce it and so _ reality of whether people enforce it and so on — reality of whether people enforce it and so on. it reality of whether people enforce it and so on. . , reality of whether people enforce it and so on. ., , , and so on. it really struck me, penn , and so on. it really struck me, penny, listening _ and so on. it really struck me, penny, listening to _ and so on. it really struck me, penny, listening to one - and so on. it really struck me, penny, listening to one of the| penny, listening to one of the contributors, i'm not sure who it was earlier, and she was saying, look, what you folks have not craig —— quite grasped of this is a weekend which will fundamentally... if you want to point out one weekend that determines the future of the planet, it does not happen very often, but this is a weekend we could go one direction or the other. i know this sounds very dramatic, but if you think the world will carry on whether we are on it or not, the world carried on without the dinosaurs, very different world, it is actually us who we need to think about as much as the planet. don't you think also, when you look at the people who are still holding back and you are also polluters, we are all responsible, let's face it,
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we are all responsible to varying degrees, it isjust we are all responsible to varying degrees, it is just some of us have been able to wash our hands be cleaner, possibly symptoms removing it elsewhere in saying it was not us, it was them. and the thing is, it'sjust... foramong us, it was them. and the thing is, it'sjust... for among people of their slightly putting their fingers in their ears and saying, science will come to our rescue, because there have been... is this new snail, it is plastic... we heard about them for ages, what happens to them? we about them for ages, what happens to them? ~ ., ., , .,, . about them for ages, what happens to them? ., ., . , them? we found that plastic is usually bad — them? we found that plastic is usually bad for _ them? we found that plastic is usually bad for your _ them? we found that plastic is usually bad for your health! . usually bad for your health! laughter i do think there are many people who are going, it will be fine, it will bejust like that time when they said all the bridges would fall down in the country over the weight of horse
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dung, and i think an awful of people think, it will be fine, we will sort it out. —— awful lot of people. tickets on tour next front page, and this is the ft. water cannon imposed on one protest. dutch impose lockdown on next three weeks, curfews on the times you can go out, bars, restaurants can open. restrictions on those who have not been asked naked, because their figures are looking worse than it any time since the pandemic began to. ~ , ., any time since the pandemic began to. ~ i. ., any time since the pandemic began to. ~ ., , to. when you look at the measures introduced. — to. when you look at the measures introduced, they _ to. when you look at the measures introduced, they are _ to. when you look at the measures introduced, they are familiar - to. when you look at the measures introduced, they are familiar to - to. when you look at the measures introduced, they are familiar to us, but they— introduced, they are familiar to us, but they are — introduced, they are familiar to us, but they are the thing we hope we never— but they are the thing we hope we never have — but they are the thing we hope we never have to go back to, and it is 'ust never have to go back to, and it is just a _ never have to go back to, and it is just a reminder, isn't it? certain
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shops— just a reminder, isn't it? certain shops closing, limits on people coming — shops closing, limits on people coming around your house, no crowds at football _ coming around your house, no crowds at football grounds, all these types of things. _ at football grounds, all these types of things, it is a throwback to what we have _ of things, it is a throwback to what we have had to go through in our own country. _ we have had to go through in our own country, obviously, and theoretically at least we may have to go _ theoretically at least we may have to go back — theoretically at least we may have to go back to edison point. let's hope _ to go back to edison point. let's hope not — to go back to edison point. let's hope not. the point is, the thing is not over _ hope not. the point is, the thing is not over and _ hope not. the point is, the thing is not over. and it is interesting as welli _ not over. and it is interesting as welt, i_ not over. and it is interesting as well, i suppose, not over. and it is interesting as well, isuppose, but not over. and it is interesting as well, i suppose, but only a few weeks — well, i suppose, but only a few weeks ago we looks like the ones in europe _ weeks ago we looks like the ones in europe doing really badly and everybody else seemed to be ahead of us, and _ everybody else seemed to be ahead of us, and so _ everybody else seemed to be ahead of us, and so when suddenly it is taken off in— us, and so when suddenly it is taken off in germany as well, austria, this story— off in germany as well, austria, this story refers to, the problem seems _ this story refers to, the problem seems to— this story refers to, the problem seems to be accelerating elsewhere. we seem _ seems to be accelerating elsewhere. we seem to be slightly improving, although— we seem to be slightly improving, although far from certain that is going _ although far from certain that is going to — although far from certain that is going to continue of course, but it 'ust going to continue of course, but it just shows — going to continue of course, but it just shows how quickly things can change. — just shows how quickly things can change, and yeah, pretty severe restrictions imposed for i think three _ restrictions imposed for i think three weeks and maybe longer if necessary, i suppose. oh
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three weeks and maybe longer if necessary, i suppose.— necessary, i suppose. oh dear, penn , necessary, i suppose. oh dear, penny. we _ necessary, i suppose. oh dear, penny. we are _ necessary, i suppose. oh dear, penny, we are going _ necessary, i suppose. oh dear, penny, we are going to - necessary, i suppose. oh dear, penny, we are going to be - necessary, i suppose. oh dear, i penny, we are going to be back... necessary, i suppose. oh dear, - penny, we are going to be back... i thought you were going to say we are going to be down to the lockdown hairdressing situation. i wanted to just mention the austria story, though, which is, it is going to be stay—at—home from monday if you've not had yourjabs and the chancellor saying, i do not see white two thirds of the population to lose their freedom thirds of the population to lose theirfreedom because thirds of the population to lose their freedom because another third hesitates, and empathy vaccine rates in the eu, big fines for rule breakers —— and they have got the lowest. this is... the thing is, you do have to take people with you, and if you are... i can only imagine how it is going to work if you have got a third of people being told to stay at home from monday. how on earth are you going, how is it going to work? ., ., , ., ,
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are you going, how is it going to work? ., ., i. , , .,, work? how do you ensure the people do not lose — work? how do you ensure the people do not lose their _ work? how do you ensure the people do not lose their income? _ work? how do you ensure the people do not lose their income? lose their| do not lose their income? lose their jobs over this? presumably the companies will say, hang on, these people are not coming into work, we cannot afford to be subsidising them come over to the government. it is also interesting, this question of, at what point do people stop obeying the rules? they say, stop this, you told me, if we did all this stuff, it would be sorted, and here we are again, so i have had it with you guys. i am ready carry on with my life. and ready carry on with my life. and of course, ready carry on with my life. and of course. it — ready carry on with my life. and of course, it feeds _ ready carry on with my life. and of course, it feeds into _ ready carry on with my life. and of course, it feeds into that - ready carry on with my life. and of course, it feeds into that them - ready carry on with my life. and of| course, it feeds into that them and us narrative as woelfel took it is interesting, isn't it, if you look at social media, there are so many people that you follow who say, we have got to be kind to each other,
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kind to each other, but if you've got some of the force to stay monday, and they might have very good reasons as to why they desired not to have the vaccination. it is not to have the vaccination. it is not mandatory. they decided not to. you have got these people, both sides... itjust is a recipe for angen sides... itjust is a recipe for anger, anger spilling onto the streets, and you know how that ends. you certainly do. penny misting was covid, this is an interesting front page from the i, and assessment within vital of the three scenarios which might mean and and to covid... yeah, i thought this was rather fascinating, and maybe it isjust me, but i felt quite optimistic after reading this. the headline, as you read out... there optimistic. if
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you read out... there optimistic. if you are an optimist. the virus becomes a routine disease late next year and the world will escape the shadow of covid 2023—20 for. looking on the pessimistic side, they are saying mass infections until 2026, and that is considered highly unlikely, but ijust, i read that and that i went on to read the rest of the paper, and you could win a jigsaw! of the paper, and you could win a 'iisaw! �* , jigsaw! laughter a jigsaw _ jigsaw! laughter a jigsaw for - jigsaw! laughter a jigsaw for the i jigsaw! laughter l a jigsaw for the next jigsaw! laughter _ a jigsaw for the next lockdown? jigsaw! laughter — a jigsaw for the next lockdown? they did no u, a jigsaw for the next lockdown? they did go no. did — a jigsaw for the next lockdown? tie: did go up, did they not, a jigsaw for the next lockdown? tieg did go up, did they not, in lockdown?— did go up, did they not, in lockdown? ., ~ ., , , ., lockdown? how right? at least you can iet lockdown? how right? at least you can get them _ lockdown? how right? at least you can get them delivered. _ lockdown? how right? at least you can get them delivered. we - lockdown? how right? at least you can get them delivered. we are - can get them delivered. we are talking about favourite stories which feels surreal. win a jigsaw, 502 giveaway, but my favourite is, i talked to doc to fly a
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—— talk to dogs to play plane. on the

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