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he equated to size of the challenge, he equated to building the social system, even bigger than that i would say, what we are talking about this week add week after its real wiring idly planning of the global economy, it is unprecedented. everything here will he decided having massive implications for the way we heat and build our homes, what we eat, the way we travel to work. there will be many leaders who say the size of the challenges to bay, there are others who say, what do we do? give up? or do we take on heddon, the swedish pragmatist quite optimistic that they are making real progress —— take it head on. we are safely here in glasgow but hundreds of passengers are hoping to travel here for cop26 who came by train and are not by car, and have been left waiting inside london's euston station. that is because we have had some awful weather along the way and
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a number of fallen trees on the line. you might see on your social media platform that there are concourses like this packed with people, many of them hoping to travel north for the climate conference which got under way today. travellers acknowledged the irony of the situation, many forced to boot domestic flights to the conference instead. they cannot get here by train ——. to book. i think some of the problems have been cleared up, some trains heading north now, not easy, my colleague anita has been speaking to rich wilson, co—founder of the global citizens assembly for cop26 and he explained how the assembly works. it is like a government or a parliament made up of ordinary everyday citizens, there are two parts, 100
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citizens, there are two parts, 100 citizens, and accurate snapshot of the global population by gender, age, geography, then there is community assemblies that anyone can ride anyway. the key thing for us is that anyone can be selected and anyone on earth can be involved, so tomorrow the recommendations, the declaration of the first—ever assembly will be announced at one o'clock, and it is interesting to hear people talk about the political constraints, your correspondence talking about how physics doesn't care about climate politics. what we notice through the discussions on the global assembly is that the citizens feel really liberated, they are liberated from the constraints of the past, we are looking forward to seeing their proposals. flan of the past, we are looking forward to seeing their proposals.— to seeing their proposals. can you cive us to seeing their proposals. can you give us any _ to seeing their proposals. can you give us any sense _ to seeing their proposals. can you give us any sense of— to seeing their proposals. can you give us any sense of what - to seeing their proposals. can you give us any sense of what those . give us any sense of what those recommendations made by the members of the global assembly who will be here at cop26, what they will be? unfortunately the one thing i cannot
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speak about, they will be announced and i don't want to steal your thunder, from tomorrow! that is fine, so it _ thunder, from tomorrow! that is fine. so it is— thunder, from tomorrow! that is fine, so it is going _ thunder, from tomorrow! that is fine, so it is going to _ thunder, from tomorrow! that is fine, so it is going to be - fine, so it is going to be interesting to have these individuals from around the world, do they have any sense what to expect and how they will get their voices across, make themselves heard, because you have a sense of meetings going on, diverse meetings with potentially at anyone meeting hundreds of different views, trying to make themselves heard? absolutely, we are lucky that many world leaders have come and supporting the global assembly, add thatis supporting the global assembly, add that is because they know that very often at these negotiations politicians say, we cannot do this or that, politicians say, we cannot do this orthat, because politicians say, we cannot do this or that, because they have to obfuscate and say citizens wouldn't support it, so increasingly we have seen over the last years citizens assembly is happening around the
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world, time and time again, they are way more ambitious than the politicians, often putting across granular proposals, and there is so much momentum and support for this project, because often we see citizens are way ahead of the politicians. fix, citizens are way ahead of the politicians.— citizens are way ahead of the politicians. a little earlier we touched briefly _ politicians. a little earlier we touched briefly on _ politicians. a little earlier we touched briefly on the - politicians. a little earlier we touched briefly on the idea . politicians. a little earlier we | touched briefly on the idea of individuals looking at cop26 and might feel slightly overawed by this and the scale of it, governments and global corporations, asking what can i do, what difference can i make? how much of a difference do you think people involved in something like the global assembly can make in all of this? we are talking about a moral pressure, as well as a market pressure, because we are all consumers, we can make demands of businesses, companies, government about what we expect.—
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about what we expect. absolutely, often people _ about what we expect. absolutely, often people say — about what we expect. absolutely, often people say to _ about what we expect. absolutely, often people say to me, _ about what we expect. absolutely, often people say to me, what - about what we expect. absolutely, often people say to me, what is i about what we expect. absolutely, | often people say to me, what is the political mandate you have to change, how do you effect change? what we have noticed is that the moral authority that citizens have is incredible. they are unconstrained in terms of... it has to be 100% set by the citizens, but also citizens have got real power, also citizens have got real power, also they have the choice to elect a lot of politicians who will be speaking tomorrow, and one of the really important messages about tomorrow is that this is the start of a new piece of global governance infrastructure, so from now on there will be another thing in the mix, there will be the un, nation states coming together after the second world war, and today and tomorrow there will be the global assembly coming together for the first time, for citizens around the world to come together, and the climate we
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are interested in this climate crisis, and you think of the power of humanity and the role we play at the negotiating table, it is critical and it is about time that the citizens were invited to the table. ., . ., . ., ' table. pro'ect forward to the 12th of this table. project forward to the 12th of this month, _ table. project forward to the 12th of this month, perhaps _ table. project forward to the 12th of this month, perhaps a - table. project forward to the 12th of this month, perhaps a day - table. project forward to the 12th. of this month, perhaps a day later if it slips a little, what at that point will represent a successful cop26 for the global citizens assembly? it cop26 for the global citizens assembly?— assembly? it would be if the proposals. _ assembly? it would be if the proposals. the _ assembly? it would be if the proposals, the statement i assembly? it would be if the i proposals, the statement that assembly? it would be if the - proposals, the statement that comes out tomorrow is matched by the leaders, so if the leaders are able to at least enter into a dialogue with citizens, it is likely citizens will be impatient, —— ambitious, politicians find out how to meet because they are constrained by traditional politics. they are
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constrained by the reality of politics. from our perspective, what would be important is that we are entering into a real dialogue, adult dialogue where citizens are really acknowledged as being key actors in the future of managing climate, global governance, and politicians really take them seriously, ideally it will implement all the proposals. i don't go that will happen. if we get to a point in time where citizens are taken seriously on an ongoing basis, that would be a massive step forward. rich wilson s-ueakin massive step forward. rich wilson speaking to _ massive step forward. rich wilson speaking to anita _ massive step forward. rich wilson speaking to anita about _ massive step forward. rich wilson speaking to anita about the - massive step forward. rich wilson speaking to anita about the role i speaking to anita about the role that ordinary people can play in this climate challenge. south korea is another one of the world because my top ten carbon polluters, it says it aims to cut its emissions to 40% by 2030 after facing severe criticism over an initial plan for reduction of 26%, south korea
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corresponded has been speaking to the environment minister, she began by asking the country could have set more ambitious targets. translation: it is possible to set a higher number but what remains is the issue of whether this number is achievable. korea is a country that has always turned the impossible possible. the current goal is full of 40% is still challenging and some say it is impossible. but we will turn this number into a reality. fine turn this number into a reality. one ofthe turn this number into a reality. one of the biggest _ turn this number into a reality. one of the biggest challenges south korea will have is reducing its coal emissions, write down coal makes up 43% of its energy. how are you going to reduce that? translation: the most to reduce that? translation: tue: most common to reduce that? translation: tte: most common renewable to reduce that? translation: t"t2 most common renewable energy to reduce that? translation: tt2 most common renewable energy will to reduce that? translation: t“t2 most common renewable energy will be solar and wind. 70% of the landmass in korea is mountainous. it is not
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easy to find the right location to install renewable energy. we are looking for suitable industrial sites, such as a factory, rooftops or wall mounted sonar —— solar panels. we are building a national plan for zero emission buildings. are you still going to invest in coal projects abroad? translation: , - resident coal projects abroad? translation: , president has — coal projects abroad? translation: , president has already _ coal projects abroad? translation: , president has already announced - coal projects abroad? translation: , president has already announced in i president has already announced in april that we will stop public financing for new overseas coal powered plants. domestically we are also not building new coal power plants. but the task that we need to take on those already under construction at home and abroad. what are your hopes for cop26? what part does south korea want to play in the discussions? translation: since korea has come from nothing and joined the ranks of advanced countries recently, we understand the desire of developing countries to provide a prosperity for their
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citizens, because we walked that path. we will play the bridging role between the developed and developing part of the world, and show that development doesn't need to rely on thermal power generation. there are many young — thermal power generation. there are many young people _ thermal power generation. there are many young people here _ thermal power generation. there are many young people here and - thermal power generation. there are many young people here and south l many young people here and south korea and abroad who are watching this climate change conference carefully. they want change. do you feel the burden on your shoulders as one of the lead negotiators? translation: i one of the lead negotiators? translation:— one of the lead negotiators? translation: i always feel the burden as a _ translation: i always feel the burden as a policymaker. - translation: i always feel the burden as a policymaker. there| translation: | always feel the | burden as a policymaker. there is this challenge because i feel all the obligations to really take strong action for the sake of our future generation, but on the other side i am faced with the fact that we do not have the tools yet to achieve that goal. so striking the right balance between the two is a really painful task for all
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negotiators.— really painful task for all neuotiators. g ., �* , . ., negotiators. joe biden expected to a- ear negotiators. joe biden expected to appear behind _ negotiators. joe biden expected to appear behind the _ negotiators. joe biden expected to appear behind the podium. - negotiators. joe biden expected to appear behind the podium. i - negotiators. joe biden expected to appear behind the podium. i wantl negotiators. joe biden expected to i appear behind the podium. i want to take you to roam, we are getting pictures from the podium wherejoe biden will appear, we are hoping in the next couple of minutes. we had been watching this picture for some time but he has not appeared. he is late to the podium. i want to bring you up to the date for news coming from the us team, because tomorrow there is going to be mike bloomberg, who has put funding into cop26, in fact the bloomberg team are next door to the bbc team here in the blue zone, and the point is to impress on the world that although america has been away from the paris climate deal for four years, civil society in america has been taking the lead. tomorrow they will be saying that cities, states,
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counties, tribal nations, businesses, investors can be relied on by the federal government, and while they might have been out of the paris agreement for the last four years, a lot of that work has been ongoing and will be a shot in the arm here by mike bloomberg and his team who are putting some money into that programme. forjoe biden, as we wait for him, it has been a difficult few weeks. he was hoping that he could begrudge it with his democratic partner in congress to get his legislative programme across the line, it didn't happen, because the line, it didn't happen, because the senator from west virginia was opposed to some of the climate provisions in that bill, they have had ten throughout the clean energy programme which would have ensured that energy companies produce anymore green fashion —— throw out. there would have been taxes for those who continued to use fossil fuels. and also he has had to water down some of the other provisions
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wailed to suit that senator, but although she has lasted his bill from three and half trillion to 1.75 he has defended the climate part, so there is still $550 billion in this american bill for climate change, things like electrification of cars, ensuring that the systems, electricity systems in the southern states are better protected from extreme climate change, from hurricanes and things like that, we saw also of course what happened in louisiana a few months ago, and also there will be money in their two help those cities and states adapt as well to the climate challenge. he will hope that when he comes here to glasgow the framework of that deal reassures people of that america is back at the table, they are taking their paras commitments seriously. the difficulty is, and we will talk
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to someone from the new york times later, trust has been badly damaged in the americans. when donald trump walked away from the deal in 2016, that put in people's mind, well, if donald trump comes back in 2024, what is to stop the americans walking away from it again? that is what the chinese might be thinking, what the chinese might be thinking, what the chinese might be thinking, what the russians might be thinking. i asked someone about this today, they said it is not a political target thatjoe biden is setting, not an arbitrary figure, this is the planet boundary, 1.5 degrees target is what we need to fit the world economy into. this idea that we are not going if america doesn't go doesn't wrap. this is the situation we face and unless these big g20 countries start to cut their emissions, we are not going to meet the target that borisjohnson has set. we will keep our eye on what is happening in rome, he is somewhat
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delayed, we were expecting him to appear at the top of the hour but that doesn't look like it is going to happen at the moment, so let's focus more on the events around the cop26 ahmed, the leaders are beginning to arrive in glasgow, but through the course of the day they had been in rome —— cop26 summit. joe biden not yet giving his views on what happened there but we have heard from the un secretary general who said that he his hopes are not buried by what had happened in rome, but they are certainly not what he was hoping for and terms of the target. not sure whether we are going to go back to those pictures in rome, i am getting conflicting views on whether he might appear on stage. anyway, taking you back to rome and what mark was able to bring us earlier about that statement that
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we got from the g20 leaders, let's

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