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welcome to bbc news. our top stories: how much they pay should social media be? the facebook whistle—blower prepares to address british mps after meeting one campaigner his daughter took her own life. i think on the most basic level, right now, there is no company in the world that has as much power as facebook and has little transparency. if: has little transparency. 16 eo - le has little transparency. 16 people are taken from mccain container ship carrying mining chemicals. colombia's most wanted is captured. the alleged leader of the gulf clan drugs cartel now faces a possible extradition to the us. in the
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words oldest known animal cave word's oldest known animal cave paintings are discovered in indonesia. again rare access to a remarkable and he was gunther in the words most feminist coffee shop. actorjames michael teilo best known for his role in friends has died aged 59. —— most famous coffee shop. thank you forjoining us. a facebook whistle—blower is due to give evidence to mps at westminster in a few hours�* time. she will give her view on the uk government�*s plans to regulate social media. she says the company harms children, damages democracy and gives money before its users. facebook disagrees and says it cares deeply about issues like
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safety, well—being and mental health. since arriving in the uk she has met the campaigner ian russell. his 14—year—old daughter took her own life after viewing disturbing content on instagram which is owned by facebook. angus crawford has more. she�*s the former facebook insider who revealed its most closely guarded secrets. 14—year—old molly russell... he�*s the father who lost his daughter to suicide — now campaigning to protect other children online. nice to meet you. today they met for the first time. so what do you think the impact of molly's story was on instagram as a platform and how it approaches safety? facebook is full of kind, conscientious, well—meaning people. the real question is around, can we, as a public, change the incentives such that it makes more sense for facebook to invest more money in safety on instagram? so i�*m sure that molly�*s... the experience that molly had caused them to look at these questions more.
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so one of the things that lead us to find out more about molly was some notes that she'd left that were found after she died. and in one of them she wrote, "i keep a lot to myself, and it keeps building up inside." "you get addicted to it, and you don't even realise you've spun out of control." "you're living in a trap, in a circle." what�*s so dangerous about having children under the age of 16, under the age of 18, using systems like instagram is that facebook�*s own research shows that a startlingly high fraction of them exhibit what is known as problematic use, which means that they can�*t regulate their own usage of the product. it�*s kind of like cigarettes in that way. and they know it�*s hurting their physical health, their schoolwork or their employment. facebook says it has never allowed content that promotes or encourages suicide or self—harm and it works
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with experts to continually update its policies. as time goes on, as a parent bereaved by the suicide of his 14—year—old, i look at a huge corporation with massive resources and say, "there must be more you can be doing." unquestionably, facebook could be investing more resources in making the platforms safer. they have made a series of choices to prioritise profits over people. what do you think regulators can do to persuade those big tech companies to behave differently? there�*s no company in the world that has as much power as facebook and as little transparency. in a statement, facebook said... a whistle—blower and a campaigner with one aim — to make social media a safer place. angus crawford, bbc news. joshis
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josh is an investor in silicon valley and a cyber sociologist who has written extensively about facebook. i asked him if he thought the company does enough to protect public safety. you make facebook and $29 billion in profitjust last year. up from 18 billion the year. up from 18 billion the year before. it is clear that they have more money to invest to make sure that they have moderators and better safety in every language in every country around the world especially when you know that facebook is investing 87% of resources around safety into just the united states despite four thirds quarters of the users on facebook living outside the united states. that is an interesting perspective. what sort of numbers? they say they are about 40,000 staff this. what sort of numbers you have to look at here? it what sort of numbers you have to look at here?— to look at here? if you are operating _ to look at here? if you are operating in _ to look at here? if you are operating in countries - to look at here? if you are operating in countries you | to look at here? if you are - operating in countries you need to have native speakers who can actually understand the nuances of hate speech and misinformation. facebook touts
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as moderators and over 50 damages but operates in over 100 damages. it is clear the company has more room to invest in incentivising better safety not just faster growth.- not just faster growth. what about the — not just faster growth. what about the idea _ not just faster growth. what about the idea of _ not just faster growth. what about the idea of regulation | about the idea of regulation and how far back that can go? that is something that will be discussed in the course of the next few hours. regulation seems so valuable and important but it also is important to implement and does take time and it can be restrictive. human beings are the natural resource that feels facebook�*s business. we have regulations on timber logging and drilling safety and i think we need new regulations that think about how tech companies treat human beings as minds for data usage and attention.— and attention. what you think they should — and attention. what you think they should try _ and attention. what you think they should try to _ and attention. what you think they should try to get - and attention. what you think they should try to get out - and attention. what you think they should try to get out of l they should try to get out of they should try to get out of the whistle—blower that would enlighten their own thinking? i would love to see the mp5 ask would love to see the mps ask how much does facebook
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understand about picking the right line for drawing and safety. how much is an adequate amount to invest in housing make those decisions and say are spending enough at this point and how does facebook incentivise these employees to want to work on safety rather than growth. busy giving bonuses for when hateful content disappears or polarisation is reduced by the newsreader only when more users join the service. aha, newsreader only when more users join the service-— join the service. a cyber sociologist. _ join the service. a cyber sociologist. the - join the service. a cyber| sociologist. the canadian join the service. a cyber - sociologist. the canadian coast guard has said a fire on a container ship of the country�*s west coast has burned itself out about it was continuing to smoulder. it broke out on saturday on containers on board. to contain thousands of kilos of hazardous materials. 16 crew members were taken of the ship where five stayed on board. you got the latest from mark.
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battling to contain the fire. the canadian coast guard�*s latest pictures of what they describe a smouldering chemicals full of chemicals. the latest pictures of smouldering chemicals full of chemicals. dozens fell into the choppy sea and to the containers and vie contain hazardous materials used for mining. preventing the ship�*s crew from spraying cold water directly on the fire. several hours ago the coast guard reported the emergency zone around the ship increased to two nautical miles. almost four kilometres. after the fire broke out in ten containers on saturday, 16 people were evacuated with five reported the remaining by choice including the boat�*s captain. anchored around eight kilometres off the city of victoria in british columbia, the 200—metre—long cargo ship reportedly charted by an israeli company, was en route to
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vancouver amid a global shipping trafficjam. with gale force winds predicted for the area, the canadian coast guard reports teams monitoring air quality both on the water and on shore. the hazardous materials response team has been mobilised and the result marine group were contacted for salvage operations. the shipping company which manages the container ship said no injuries were reported and that the fire appears to have been contained. so far, no safety risk is reported to people on shore. the conflict in northern ethiopia is intensifying. the government called the operation a success and said it had hit military facilities used by the
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liberation front. a spokesperson said only a disused factory had been hit. the islamic state group has claimed responsibility for a bomb attack at her farm in the ugandan capital. police described the attack as an act of domestic terror and say three men bought food and drinks and place an explosive device under a table which went off moments after they left. the 20—year—old waitress died and three other people were injured. 0ne and three other people were injured. one of colombia�*s most wanted drug traffickers is facing extradition after he was captured in a major international operation. it was found hiding in thejungle near the panama border. hundreds of special forces troops in the us, the uk and colombia took part in the mission. i�*ve been speaking to someone who explained the significance of this. ., ., ,
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this. he had the largest organisation _ this. he had the largest organisation dedicated l this. he had the largest. organisation dedicated to this. he had the largest - organisation dedicated to drug trafficking in colombia under his belt and unfortunately, however, as drug trafficking usually goes, you will soon be replaced by another kingpin. the vacuum you will be able to be filled by another it will continue the lucrative drug trafficking operation that he leaves behind.— trafficking operation that he leaves behind. what does that reall sa leaves behind. what does that really say about _ leaves behind. what does that really say about colombia's . really say about colombia�*s ability to cope in readiness to act? i ability to cope in readiness to act? ~ . ability to cope in readiness to act? ~' ., ., , act? i think in a way the colombian _ act? i think in a way the colombian governmentl act? i think in a way the i colombian government has act? i think in a way the - colombian government has been, because of the international circumstances, fighting this never—ending war on drugs that necessarily lead us anywhere. it is leads us to the next kingpin. the colombian government was hailing this as the biggest arrest since they caught pablo escobar in the 19905 caught pablo escobar in the 1990s and they have a point but will it continue to be so in the future? i presume yes until as a society we come up with a
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better solution.— better solution. they are growing _ better solution. they are growing more _ better solution. they are growing more then - better solution. they are growing more then whenj better solution. they are - growing more then when escobar was arrested all those years ago. so to what extent then is this, we�*ve known for a long time it is an international issue and the americans have shouted about it and we�*ve heard from the european union as well on occasions but where does this go. it is all well highlighting another ledger drugs baron being captured but if it makes no difference so what. . , if it makes no difference so what. ., , , ., if it makes no difference so what. ., , ., �* what. that is exactly what i've been talking _ what. that is exactly what i've been talking about _ what. that is exactly what i've been talking about all - what. that is exactly what i've been talking about all day - what. that is exactly what i've| been talking about all day long and i thank you for mentioning that because it is pretty pointless for colombia to keep on fighting this war on drugs. in 2022 we have an election and for the first time their candidates are openly talking about alternatives to the war on drugs. will they succeed? it is too early to tell but it doesn�*t look as if we will have international support as a
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country if there is a candidate that decides this is another direction they want to take. just as far as people in colombia getting this news and taking it on board, assessing whether it leaves them, they�*ve been hurt time and time again, does it really touch the sides for them?— does it really touch the sides for them? ., , ., , for them? people here are very 'aded for them? people here are very jaded about _ for them? people here are very jaded about the _ for them? people here are very jaded about the war _ for them? people here are very jaded about the war on - for them? people here are very jaded about the war on drugs. i jaded about the war on drugs. there�*ve been a lot of on my that perhaps he turned himself in and the government is putting on a big show. much ado about nothing. we don�*t know yet. the facts are going to slowly evolve. we will realise what is happening in a few days weeks and months perhaps but the truth is the majority of people are jaded in colombia about the war on drugs. they do support the fact that the government is achieving a victory against a wanted criminal known for murder, rape, abuse of innocent children, forced conscription of underage minors. this is by
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no means a bad thing that this individual has been taken of the streets but who will replace him? we don�*t know yet. stay with us. remembering guentherfrom friends. stay with us. remembering guenther from friends. the actorjames michael tyler has died aged 59. the ruler of the word�*s largest democracy died today. and yesterday she had spoken of dying in the service of a country and said i would be proud of it. every drop of my blood will contribute to the growth of this nation. after 46 years of unhappiness these two countries have a chapter of history.
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boost, ignition and lift off. this is beautiful. a milestone in human history. born today, this girl in india is the 7 billion person on the planet. the facebook whistle—blower prepares to appear in front of mps. she is due to give evidence are making social media save space. colombia has captured one of the word�*s most wanted drug lords who is facing extradition to the united states. this era of unlimited
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streaming, it is hard to remember a time and we�*ll listen to cds. it was 20 years ago they started to change when steve jobs unveiled the very ipod. here�*s how we mark the moment at the bbc. it is ipod. here's how we mark the moment at the bbc.— moment at the bbc. it is the ipod and _ moment at the bbc. it is the ipod and it — moment at the bbc. it is the ipod and it is _ moment at the bbc. it is the ipod and it is an _ moment at the bbc. it is the ipod and it is an mp3 - moment at the bbc. it is the ipod and it is an mp3 playerl ipod and it is an mp3 player that can store 1000 songs. �*iggg that can store 1000 songs. 1000 sonrs that can store 1000 songs. 1000 son . s and that can store 1000 songs. 1000 songs and this — that can store 1000 songs. 1000 songs and this is _ that can store 1000 songs. 1000 songs and this is the _ that can store 1000 songs. 1000 songs and this is the clever- songs and this is the clever bit of— songs and this is the clever bit of it _ songs and this is the clever bit of it i_ songs and this is the clever bit of it. i don't know if you've _ bit of it. i don't know if you've ever tried to put mp3 tracks— you've ever tried to put mp3 tracks and an mp3 player. it takes — tracks and an mp3 player. it takes forever. you will be able to adjust — takes forever. you will be able to adjust a _ takes forever. you will be able to adjust a merit. a takes forever. you will be able to adjust a merit.— to ad'ust a merit. a big clunky ipod to adjust a merit. a big clunky ipod as well _ to adjust a merit. a big clunky ipod as well there. _ to adjust a merit. a big clunky ipod as well there. that - to adjust a merit. a big clunky ipod as well there. that is - to adjust a merit. a big clunky| ipod as well there. that is how we were covering it and it is fair to say no one could have foreseen the impact it would have on the music and tech industry. not to mention apples own fortunes. the ipod started the company on its journey to become the most profitable in
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the world. by 2009 ipods were making up over 30% of apple sales. sparing the company until most double profits of $65 billion in 2010. with the advent of the iphone, though, the ipod sales began to dip. the line was then discontinued in 2017. no doubt the product left its mark, though. really changing the way we consume music once and for all. when the people who can remember the day ipod lunched very well sm when he was at the launch 20 years ago and it probably feels like yesterday when you think about it but do you think those who were present were really aware of how much of a shift this was going to have? irate aware of how much of a shift this was going to have? we knew it was going _ this was going to have? we knew it was going to — this was going to have? we knew it was going to be _ this was going to have? we knew it was going to be a _ this was going to have? we knew it was going to be a big _ this was going to have? we knew it was going to be a big risk - it was going to be a big risk per apple certainly. apple at that time is known as the maker of the macintosh computer and steve jobs had just returned to
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the company five years earlier vital on the brink of bankruptcy so he belief of the matter big financial mess and for setting his sights on a massive consumer electronics market. apple had no expertise. we are knee when we were watching him unveil it that it was a cool device. i have the one that he handed to the media day. everyone in the room was mesmerised by it butjust how big a shift would move the music industry, no, we didn�*t realise that entire year or two later when he introduced the itunes store. and stevejobs got the industry to change its old music. got the industry to change its old music— got the industry to change its old music. you know you have made it with _ old music. you know you have made it with an _ old music. you know you have made it with an mp3 - old music. you know you have made it with an mp3 player. made it with an mp3 player becomes an ipod. basically everyone talks about the ipod. it is extraordinary how quickly it has gone, in many ways, given the impact it had on the music industry.— given the impact it had on the music industry. well, it became art of music industry. well, it became part of your _ music industry. well, it became part of your device _ music industry. well, it became part of your device that - music industry. well, it became part of your device that you - part of your device that you have in your hands today. it is embedded in that. we cannot
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imagine 20 years ago that our phones will become our music and video players. apple still sells one model of the ipod. an ipod touch. you can still buy one if you are feeling nostalgic and want a music player but for most of us are smartphones have become their remote control to our lives and so use that as our video player, remote controlled drug arises in smart devices. it is interesting _ arises in smart devices. it is interesting they _ arises in smart devices. it is interesting they still - arises in smart devices. it is interesting they still have a ipod touch, then. is there a bit of a return to the old ways? i mean, we have seen the sort of vinyl resurgence. is there an ipod the surgeons? well, i think there an ipod the surgeons? well, ithink if there an ipod the surgeons? well, i think if you look at resale sites like ebay and others in the united states you can sell your old ipods for premium but the kids today, as they say, are very interested in these nostalgic devices. we can sell thousands of songs at
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your fingertip and it runs from itunes music which is the software apple created so i think it is still kind of cool to have an ipod. just briefly, would it be exaggerating to say that it was the making of apple as we know it today? it that it was the making of apple as we know it today?— as we know it today? it was art of as we know it today? it was part of the _ as we know it today? it was part of the making - as we know it today? it was part of the making of - as we know it today? it was | part of the making of apple. as we know it today? it was i part of the making of apple. it put their name back on the map, if you will. and it led to the creation of the iphone which changed everything for apple said the ipod and the iphone together is the reason that apple in 2007 word computer from its name. up until that point they were apple computer inc on the day be introduced iphone with a music player embedded they became apple inc. the rest is history. archaeologists have discovered the word�*s oldest known animal cave painting in indonesia. the panel which shows wild pigs
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believed to have been made more than 45,000 years ago was found in a cave never met valley on the island. previously, rock art found in european sites were thought to have been the word�*s oldest artworks. the bbc in indonesia given access to film inside the cave. rebecca reports. here in this remote valley is the worlds oldest known painting of animals. the discovery made by a doctoral student at australia�*s griffith university. 0n the map we found this unique location. the area is surrounded by mountains and in the middle there is this valley. so we were curious and decided to explore. the name means buffalo cave. during the monsoon, this area easily flood so in the past our ancestors kept their buffalo inside the
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cave to protect them. 50 metres inside the cave they found this panel that appears to tell the story of wild pigs fighting. translation: the panel expresses quite - a complex narrative. two boars are painted on top of each other. if we look closely at pigs it looks like the artist has used a brush dipped into paint to make the strokes on the cave wall. we see a different style with the hands. it appears as if a spray technique was used. they put their hands on the wall and then sprayed the pigment on. using a uranium series isotope dating technique it�*s been revealed that it was made more than 45,000 years ago. translation: it says - if the painting wants to show the animals are moving. the fact that the artist could create such an imaginative work from 45,000 years ago is truly extraordinary.
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the team of archaeologists behind the discoveries are even older paintings may be found in nearby case. this ancient art a source of great national pride. translation: these cave art is really unique. - nothing quite like it in the world. so i tell young people in your blood are these clever genes, brilliant genes. it proves that 45,000 years ago your ancestors made this incredibly clever paintings. researchers are warning that the art is decaying at an alarming rate due to the effects of climate change. rising temperatures causing these ancient paintings to crumble.
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the actor who found fame as gunther on hit tv sitcom has died of prostate cancer at 59. its focus was on six friends, but a seven the character also made a big impression. i thought you were chandler. guenther�*s infatuation... a recurring theme and is fence popularity grew so did the man originally credited simply as coffee guy. but of course he had one storyline everyone remembers. he was obsessed with rachel. i did it all by myself! and there is nobody to hug! it was so important to , the show felt to fans, the show felt
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they had to resolve it in friends�* final episode. i just have to tell you i love you. i love you too. probably not in the same way. there were other small roles. an artjournalist in sabrina the teenage witch. and he was reunited with his friends cast mate matt leblanc in the bbc sitcom episodes. but his legacy will always be friends. too ill to appear in person, he joined the show�*s reunion special remotely. it was the most memorable ten years of my life, honestly. i cannot have imagined a better experience. all of these guys were fantastic. it was just a joy to work with them and i felt very, very special. the world�*s biggest show would never have been quite what it was without james michael tyler�*s gunther. james michael tyler who has
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died at the age of 59. and of course we have more on our website. you�*re watching bbc news. hello there. we�*re starting the new week off on a sunshine and showers theme. we�*ll have plenty of showers across southern and western areas. a lot of central and eastern parts will tend to stay dry with a good deal of sunshine around. it�*s going to be breezy for all, quite windy in the north and the west because we�*ll be close to this area of low pressure which is anchored to the north of the uk. so you can see quite a few isobars on the chart, these weather fronts enhancing the shower activity as they move from west to east. and we�*re in a mild air mass, as you can see from the yellow and orange colours. so then we start monday off on a fine note across central and eastern areas, dry with some sunshine. there will be showers from the word go across western areas. these will tend to become more widespread, very frequent across the north—west of scotland. merging together to produce
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longer spells of rain, quite cloudy too. some heavy ones as well across the south of england. some of these could contain some hail and thunder. a few getting in towards the east on this strong west south—westerly breeze, but many eastern areas should stay dry. and it will be windy, particularly around coasts of scotland, particularly the northern and western isles. temperatures mild again in the south, 14 to 16 celsius, maybe a little bit fresher across scotland and northern ireland. as we move through monday night, it stays breezy, lengthy clear spells, further showers. these showers will tend to fade away because we�*ll start to see this weather front approaching northern ireland and western scotland later in the night to bring some windy weather, more cloud and more persistent rain around. it�*s going to be another pretty mild night to come, temperatures no lower than around 6 or 7 celsius. so here is the pressure chart for tuesday. we�*ve got a pretty vigourous area of low pressure to the north—west of the uk. this weather front will be affecting more northern and west parts of the country. further south and east you are, close to this area of high pressure over the near continent, then it is likely to stay largely dry. but it will be a breezy day wherever you are.
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like i mentioned, staying largely dry with some sunny spells across southern and eastern areas. cloudier further north and west, outbreaks of rain, some heavy and persistent, particularly across western hills, northern and western scotland, perhaps into north—west england, north west wales at times. it will be pretty cloudy and dull, but look at these temperatures. despite the cloud and rain in the north, all the sunshine in the south, looking at temperatures a good five degrees above average. it�*s very mild as we move into the middle part of the week. further wet and windy weather across north—western areas, and by friday, it looks like some of that wet weather will reach southern and eastern parts as well. see you later.
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this is bbc news. the headlines. facebook whistle—blower frances haugen prepares to face british mps tomorrow. as said facebook harms children and damages democracy.

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