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this is bbc news. the headlines: the international community has expressed horror at the killing of dozens of protestors by the security forces in myanmar — on what was the deadliest day since last month's military coup. the us and the eu have condemned the violence as "horrifying" and "indefensible". diplomatic sources in mozambique say fighting is continuing between islamist militants and government forces near giant gas projects in the north of the country. the french news agency quotes security sources as saying the jihadists have seized the town of palma. the french energy group, total, says it has now suspended plans to resume work at its nearby facility. a giant container ship remains stuck in the suez canal despite hopes that it would be dislodged by the high tide. local authorities say it could be afloat again before monday. more than 300 ships are stuck on either side of the vessel, which became stranded on tuesday.
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now on bbc news: dateline london. good evening. the clocks spring forward an hour tonight and the temperatures? hello. i'm shaun ley. welcome to the programme, which brings together bbc specialists and the foreign correspondents, who file their stories for audiences back home, dateline: london. this week: borisjohnson boasts of vaccine success. his government says two jabs will be followed by a covid booster in the autumn — as europeans struggle with too many infections and too few doses of vaccine. a rare mis—step by angela merkel — have germans, and others, had enough of lockdown? and the evergreen trafficjam that risked withering global trade. with me this weekend... ashis ray, from india,
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is approaching 45 years as a foreign correspondent, as well as serving at the crease as a cricket commentator. stefanie bolzen is uk and ireland correspondent for germany's welt. with me here, clive myrie, who reports internationally for the bbc as well as presenting the news back home. "the reason we have the vaccine success", prime minister boris johnson is reported to have told his mps this week, "is because of capitalism, because of greed." whether he was joking or saying what he thinks in an unguarded moment during a private meeting, it's perhaps more accurate to say that globalisation, which helped covid's rapid spread, is critical to vaccination success. this weekend uk government ministers predicted a boosterjab by september. but india has halted exports and europe is threatening to. stefanie, let's talk about what is happening. they are pretty troubled by what has been happening.
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they singled out the uk in particular. what is there problem and what of the changes that are likely to follow from this? do you think they are follow —— they will follow through on the threats? yes, well, it's a very interesting question. for now, it has only been threats. interestingly, there are reports in the uk and also back in europe that right now, there are talks going on between the british government and the european commission, who have found an agreement after what has been a very tumultuous week, where the european commission actually made their possibilities to stop exporting vaccines produced in europe to the uk and to other parts of the world even more likely and stronger measures that they can take. so, they said that in the future, the european commission would look at proportionality and how many vaccines the country actually has which is receiving vaccines from europe. for example, astrazeneca is produced in the uk and these vaccine should also go to europe. the commission released numbers and the numbers are quite staggering in the way that half of what is produced in the european union goes outside the european union and the slow roll—out in europe has led to problems for the politicians in europe.
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30 million vaccines have gone to the uk and the uk has exported to the eu, none. well, yes. we don't know because there haven't been any number is officially released by the british government birds, of course, it is all about reciprocity and if you talk about the british government talking about a third vaccine— a booster vaccine. you might say that in britain, for example, the parts of the biotech vaccine are produced in yorkshire. there is complete interdependence, so if the british are not delivering any more, biontech cannot produce and biontech
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will not come to the uk. in germany, we have seen a rather tumultuous week but i think we have to talk about that anyway. why is my guess, we have got plenty more to talk about on this, haven't we? part of the doses that the british government was expecting to get from astrazeneca are actually manufactured with the institute in india. tell us a bit about the institute and also what the implications are from the problem is that they are experiencing in sourcing some of the elements of that from the united states? well, festivals, the institute is the world world's biggest manufacturer of vaccines
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and they have been very much at the forefront of supplies, not only within india but also exporting to other countries by virtue of the indian government's insistence that it does so and come over and above, it has a commitment of 550 million doses to covax which is run by the world health organization. between the serum institute and astrazeneca, the institute... they are both manufacturing the same oxford vaccine. so, as a result of this, astrazeneca asked for 5 million
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doses to be sent to the uk and in that situation, the difficulty that arose was this, there was no problem until a few weeks ago, when they were merrily exporting to other countries to the extent that india was exporting more than it had made available to its own people and this came under severe criticism in the indian parliament from indian opposition members of parliament and is, also, all of a sudden there is now what is being called a second wave in india. in fact, in the past 24 hours,
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more than 62,000 new cases have been detected and that being the case, the indian government has now clamped down and told all indian companies, including serum institute that you cannot export any more until further notice. so, this is the difficulty and this present point of time, the institute has applied to the indian government for a licence to fulfil this obligation of 5 million to the uk. and to astrazeneca. and my best guess is, that you will see a slight delay in that export but it will happen in due course. it will not happen immediately but it will happen in due course. as the two governments, that is the government of the united kingdom and the indian government, sort this matter out. borisjohnson is due to celebrate india's important national day very shortly, isn't he? we will be talking about that hopefully on dateline in the coming weeks. there is a connection between india and the uk. here is another one, the institute says it relies in part of some key materials, such as bioreactors filters and bags, i don't know quite what that means goals they come from the united states
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and they have... what you are seeing. here is basic commerce being broken on the wheel of national priorities. - so, agreements were made between the companies - and the european union in order to produce certain— stocks of vaccines. those agreements were also made with other countries. _ as a result, you have. got stocks being made in europe that are being sent all of the world because - of those agreements. india makes contracts with some of these companies and, - as a result, stocks are leaving india because of commerce i and those deals that are made. but, india is seeing a rise in their infection rates. i joe biden, inherits- a particularly appalling vaccine roll—out from the trump administration and he says, - i am going to invoke - the defence protection acts which means that he can take
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control of certain supplies - of products in the supply - chain, which leads to moderna and pfizer to say they will increase the supply, - so that they can - vaccinate everybody. so, you are seen commerce to essentially undercut - borisjohnson's claimed that it is all about - capitalism and greed. you are seeing has been completely wiped away. by national priorities. the fact is, variants. can spread stop we are in a globalised world - and as a result, we have to work together. nationalism will not solve this but that is where we are. - meanwhile, ashis has referred to covax. right now, we must work done at wonder why people are talking about boosters. —— we must wonder why people are talking about boosters because we haven't even got the doses yet.
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"my mistake", german chancellor angela merkel told a news conference wednesday, after she scrapped a five day easter lockdown just 48 hours after it was announced. a third wave of infection is stalking europeans, including germans, but protests against lockdown are being experienced, both on the continent and in the uk. here, many have bridled at the idea, floated by mrjohnson, of having to show proof of vaccination even to visit the pub. ashis, in terms of the prospects of this overtime, it looks as if pandemic, virus, will eventually become endemic. have we had enough of a debate yet about what the implications of that are for personal freedom against the desire to protect? in fact, it seems to me that we are in a firefighting situation. you douse the fire at one point and a fire arises in another. although i have said this before that last year, i think there was bundling
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by the british government and as a result, waves of the disease have occurred and more people than necessary have died, but the vaccination has gone very well in britain and i think there is room for conservatism with a small c. in this situation, rather than being aggressive and ambitious and thinking about opening up businesses because you could have another wave of infection if that aggressive approach is adopted, so i am very much with the british government on this. i believe the opposition parties are with the government on this as well. stefanie, we heard this question of the angela merkel apology.
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how much do you think this reversal of policy in a matter of hours or a couple of days is down to a sense that germans have had enough of the restrictions, which they have been labouring under pretty much for the whole of the last year? definitely, germans have had enough. that is certainly not a phenomena only restricted to germany. all over europe, people are very frustrated mainly because the vaccine roll—out is so slow. if you look at the uk, more or less it has four times more vaccines even per adult then the eu average. someone yesterday on the phone in germany said to me, look, compliance is a good thing and people do comply
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but if there is something to look forward to. here in the uk, the vaccine roll—out goes really well and you have days, where lockdown will be restricted, while on the continent it goes the other way and lockdowns are really being introduced again. for example, poland is just going back into lockdown for three weeks. in belgium, restrictions are coming back in again. they are now stopping traffic between france and germany, so from sunday night on, you have to show a negative test if you want to from france into germany and that's why people are getting very impatient and they are getting angry because nothing is improving. of course, angela merkel is asking for forgiveness and that was also in the context of the german election looming. in september, there is a federal election and just now the cdu had the biggest drop on record in the polls this week. on top of the difficult situation of the pandemic in germany, there is an increasing difficult situation with the election. there are lots of countries, where people have resisted restrictions on freedom and liberty. it has been done for health reasons but there are always suspicions that it has been done for political convenience
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or because there are some countries with some governments, where their instinct is to restrict not to liberate. that is absolutely true. by and large in the developing world, i would say that it is easier to impose restrictions because governments tend to be autocratic. in india for instance, the position of lockdowns have been somewhat haphazard and they have been detrimental. for instance, the one that took place in march of last year was ordered within four hours, so the matter did not go through parliament at all. when it came into force.
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it continues again in a somewhat unscientific manner for it was lifted. a month and a half ago, the indian government was proclaiming that freedom has been achieved but it wasn't the case and we have the situation of an alarming rise now in india of cases and doctors are predicting that this second wave in india could be worse than the first wave. in a liberal democracy like western democracies and in britain. i would say that it's less easy because there will be contentious issues, challenges will take place. you mentioned the matter of a vaccine certificate to enter pubs but if you have got people who have got to doses of the vaccine to enter the pub and you don't allow others who may or may not have been offered to doses
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or who may not qualify. the younger generation for instance wanting to go to a pub may not have got to a stage of vaccination, then that would certainly amount to discrimination, but i would venture to say that this is not that much of a problem in developing countries, sadly so. it should be so but i think it is something that the world will have to grapple with because this problem, this coronavirus, does not seem to be going away in a hurry, and so it could be a pretty long haul and the world will have to adjust to living with it rather than wishing it away. do you think that this question of how we are going to persuade people rather than just instruct people, something will have to change, won't it about how we handle it? what is interesting in the uk is that its position _ is primarily coming - from the prime minister's own backbenches. the polls consistent -
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here that the british people believe that it has to be done. borisjohnson has to be mindful of the voices i even though he does - have an 80 seat majority. even though the vaccine - roll—out has been successful, he is seeing his polls rise. he is saying that if we need to lock down for a little longer, l then it is going to have to be done. _ he is very cautious, he is very worried l about the winter coming. he is worried about - the continent and the longer
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this vaccine is out there, the more chance - there is mutation. he is talking about . the possibility of still having restrictions come christmas time. - this is chris whitty. you have got this good cop, bad cop with boris johnson. but he clearly has manoeuvre because at the moment, - the british public are _ listening to him and he doesn't have to listen to those - voices in his backbenches. now, it's almost as long as new york's empire state building is high, and it spent most of the week blocking egypt's suez canal. the evergreen, stranded in a sandstorm, caused an almighty traffic jam. the alternative — take the pre—1880s route for freight going around africa. even with 21st century ships, that's quite a diversion — up to three weeks. ashis, there is something kind of almost funny about the idea that despite all of the logistics and all of the modern technology that the combination of a bit of bad weather, a really bad sand storm, and a troublesome
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three—point turn can jam one of the most important waterways in the world but in a sense, it is potentially a lot more serious, isn't it? notjust because of the economic cost but because of the strategic significance of this canal. absolutely. it seems amusing for a moment but at the moment, it is really becoming more serious. i do believe that it is a problem, which is again going to take a few more days before it is resolved. 9 billion dollars worth of goods passed through the suez canal every day. that is a huge proportion. countries are having to divert ships to around the cape
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until this matter is sorted out and it is, indeed, a problem. this is accumulating countries like india, for instance, export to europe, north america, south america via the suez canal and the other way round. the american continent and the european continent supply goods notjust india but beyond through the suez canal. so, that is certainly a problem. it is a critical state of affairs and it makes matters more expensive for the simple reason that the ships have to take a longer route and there will be delays in deliveries because of the fact that it's a longerjourney. so, everything put together, i think it is a bit of a crisis at the moment and it seems that the owners of the ships have apologised and they are saying that they are trying
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their best but there is no immediate resolution. it will take, possibly, a few weeks to work it out. stefanie, a lot of the history of europe's historical success, the rise of the great empires, was dependent on these routes. they would get goods from the empire into consuming europe. we always used to talk about the northwest passage at the beginning of the 19th and 20th century, they finally managed it. now, the ice is melting around the arctic and we see these countries jostling under the guise of scientific expedition for access for these new routes. it is still an important part of the way we connect. yes, it is. the numbers are so interesting. i think it was reported that every hour, the ship is stuck in the suez canal, it is like 300 million dollars
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of damage to the economy. it shows how dependent the world is and how dependent you are on some waterways and subsea passages but to be honest, ijust thought suddenly, somehow it reflects also what it means one things come to a halt and suddenly everything stops, like the lockdown that we are in now, and we are now exactly one year after that first lockdown started in europe and it made me think of what comes afterwards and how much reflection there has now been going on and also the question of what comes afterwards? is capitalism really working yet and there are so many fascinating books coming out about the future of capitalism, is gdp really the right measurement to measure our
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being and our presence and our future, especially as mac so, it actually made me think more about the philosophical, broader context that we are in and what it all means for us. are we all going to end up like the marie celeste floating in the middle and everybody wonders what ever happened to us. one thing which brought many people together during lockdown, virtually at least, were quizzes. so, let's end on a question... which long—running television quiz show was inspired by wartime interrogation, is introduced with a music track called �*approachine menace�* and hasjust appointed its latest presenter? it's mastermind. you may know it even if you're not watching in the uk — there are versions in india, israel, kazakhstan, russia and turkey, as well as in other countries in english. the new host of mastermind — congratulations, clive. have you been practising your interrogation techniques in your mirror at home? i have. yes, it's something i'm looking i forward to and it's interestingl that the franchise has gone| all over the world and there seems to be something - about people wanting to see others squirm, potentially. it's been going since 1972.
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as you say, bill writes, - the guy who produced the whole thing when it started - in the 705, he was a prisoner of war, shot down over germany and he was interrogated - and he was asked, your name, your rank and your number- and that is where the opening lines come _ from for questioning. it is going to be fun. i raise this question, ashis. they do a seller celebrity that they do a celebrity version. what would be your specialised subject? well, my wife think it should be indian cricket and i agree.
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stefanie, what would be yours? european football matches between manchester city in 1978 and 1979. clive, you are safe and never having to answer these questions. thankfully, yes. what would it have been if you had been a guest facing clive? vaccine supply chains. no question about it. i am an expert. aren't we all? many congratulations. he did not know that was coming and he has taken it on the chin, god bless you sir! thank you to all of us.
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good evening. the clocks spring forward an hour tonight and the temperatures? well, they are set to spring upwards over the next few days. the rain has already arrived and the band of rain to start sunday across parts of northern england, wales and northern ireland. the rain will be heavy across high ground and some brightness for north—east scotland. 0n the side light picture, a lot of clout extending out to the atlantic and that is heading in our direction, heavy rain through tonight across northern ireland and scotland, some of that into northwest england and wales as well, very strong gusty winds across north western parts of the uk. milder than it was with 69 degrees but many spots will start cloudy, certainly the area which will be with some showers. 0ur band of rain will push northwards in that room really
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setting and across western scotland in eastern scotland should see some brightness and some southern parts of england in south wales should brighten up just a little. windy with gusts of a0 to 50 miles, a little warmer in up to 60 degrees and parts of eastern england. as we head into the evening, became and rain, particularly up towards the northwest, it stays quite windy but do not forget, you can extra hour of light, the sun is setting at 736 in the evening there in manchester. as we have through sunday night into monday, this wrinkling frontal system will bring further ran across northern areas, particularly northwest scotland and to the south, we will start to see some really warm air for the time of year. so you can see we have the cloud and rain on monday, especially for high grounds in western scotland, for the south and east, the best of the function lifting with temperatures to 21 degrees in norwich and in tuesday, which could be
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warmer still, england and wales seen plenty of sunshine and some of that into northern ireland and southern eastern scotland, still that ran for northwest scotland and looking at the top temperatures on tuesday. 22, maybe 23 degrees. but don't get too used to it. another big change on the way from midweek onwards towards the easter weekend, this frontal system sinks southward, cordero plunges back and from the north, quite a range of temperatures this week. london, for example, 23 on tuesday and down to 9 degrees by good friday.
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hello and welcome to bbc news. i'm lewis vaughanjones. we start with another day of bloodshed on the streets of myanmar. world leaders have expressed outrage at the killing of dozens of protestors — on what was the deadliest day since last month's military coup. the un secretary general antonio guterres said the violence was unacceptable and demanded a resolute international response. 0ur correspondent laura bicker has this report from bangkok. defiant, determined and undaunted.
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