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i. we need to take america to trying to bring people together and trying to deal with people who can left behind. oh, will iraq slide into civil strife? supporters, a powerful leader, my brother, a father are still occupying the parliament. they're refusing to leave until their demands are met. but what if they aren't? and what role does iran play in iraqi politics? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm hello jim. john protesters have once again taken over iraq's parliament in a show of support for influential she,
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our leader on saturday, thousands of people stormed the building and bought that for the 2nd time in a week. they vowed to stay put until their demands are met, escalating a political standoff at least 125 people were injured. other supporters reject the nomination of mohammed she r as so danny, as prime minister. it's been 10 months since the elections, but a deadlock remained over the formation of a new government. i'm what i really what had reports from that? ah, once again, supporters of shia cleric moved to the southern occupy iraq parliament. but this time, the vote to stay put until their demands are met, that we reject corruption and corrupt politicians. so don is a tool in the hands of foreign powers. he and his colleagues work against iraq. he won't do anything for our benefit. i montela maddie,
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we won't leave until we kick those corrupt politicians out of iraq approve iranian book called the coordination framework has nominated mohammed t as with any for play and minister. these protesters have link it to him to former premier in re l. mckee. white, i saw that the health ministry has confirmed dozens of people including soldiers were injured when police fire tear guess at the clouds. a jimmy. everyone shares the responsibility, political parties of the political elite of the social forces. i'm influential figures. we have to say it to everyone, and everyone must act wisely with the rock in mind in order not to lose again. so setters days, permanente session had been dedicated to electing a new president,
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followed by the naming of a prime minister, who would then full a new government. all that is now on hold, giving gravel politicians at chairs to meet. but these protesters are worried that m p 's could hold an unannounced its session to approve. so danny, so now that in for the long haul, will w a l g 0. those guys. so who is looked under a southern the founder of a popular shia movement. his block 174 seats in october's elections, making it the largest faction in parliament. but last month, souther ordered all $74.00 in peace to resign because of a failure to form a government. seller was the leader of a powerful militia. the mad, the army which was founded in 2003 in response to the us invasion. he is a populace who enjoy strong support among poorer she our communities. so that
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opposes the nomination of ma'am mage shay. yeah. as to donny for prime minister saying he is too close to terra. ah. all right, let's go ahead bring in our guests in durham. they don't look in any non resident fellow at the arab center, washington d. c. in. but that marcin a summary as a research fellow at harvard kennedy schools, middle east initiative and into iran. hammond was harvey, a professor of political science at the university of to her on a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story or seen, let me start with you today. first i want to ask you who exactly are these protesters? are the protesters that are currently engaged in this sit in, in parliament, the ones who are occupied parliament are the only supporters amongst other as other and is what they are seeking, representative of what other it archies want. this is a very unfortunate question because i think it's very relevant to how impactful
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these protests are and how much effect they'll have under ongoing orridge. dansville replaced and predominantly they are the followers to the center, but there are other iraqi from walton these protestors. and we might expect more to join later on, but the vast majority of them are addressed. but their, their demands do resonate to some degree with the rest of a threat at the country and other iraqis, for example, where they resonate will strongly isn't this called or ending corruption. and bringing those who are corrupt to accountability, where they may be less resonant with their rockies as their demands for another set of early elections for an intern governmental that happens. and perhaps even for the rewriting of the constitution. so in some lazy speak to the majority of iraqis, but in other ways their demands, particularly for early elections, my actually in your, the public more than a more than bring them together. they do. is there any kind of a solution that can be reached to get beyond this current political stalemate and
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also how much is the the rivalry between former prime minister nori mulky and most of us other driving all of this? well firstly, the solutions could be between the coordination framework and the subject movement seems to be very difficult for the past few months, due to rivalries and very old rivalries. as you mentioned, the one between a former prime minister in monarchy and neither of the suggest moving. however, molly keys potential for any candidacy towards the prime minister road has been very limited or almost abolished faster than the audio where he testifies he's very on allies within the coordination framework. who have been for months negotiating with others to keep or maintain and my, the key within the coordination of framework. so the crisis here has not only become a crisis or disputes between 2 different ortiz,
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but it has also to lead into internal disputes within the very same parties themselves, such as the coordination framework, which is also why we're probably not noticing or witnessing any strong political or even on grounds response from the coordination framework due to the schism or the, or the fragmentation that took place after the weeks. so just movement or the suggest leader is currently focusing on how to create obstacles for the coordination framework. ensuring that i won't take them a short time or an easier time to form a government which he failed to do for the past 10 months. similar to the obstacles they presented to his coalition with don't k d p hammered. how is the iranian government viewing what is playing out in there at all right now, and, and what is iran position when it comes to what's happening? i think iran does not want to unrest in iraq. i don't think it serves the wrong
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interest. i don't think it serves iraq's interest as while you're on position is that all the actions in iraq should respect to democratic process sides or fail to form a coalition government. and i think he should now provide an opportunity for the opposition to do to attempt to form a coalition government. why i think many people support the goals of the protesters. i don't think sit in and protest will actually achieve the goals they are looking for. are now i know that there are a lot of discussions among the protesters about interference, about your on interfering in iraq's affairs. in reality, i think this is mostly a rivalry between domestic ah, you, rocky groups and domestic. you, rocky parties. you want does enjoy some
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actual lot is not some, but maybe considerable influence in iraq, but that doesn't mean that you wanted interfering in iraq. you affairs, so i think ultimately this is mostly a rivalry between domestic political groups in iraq. marcin, you may have heard they don't moment ago talk about fragmentations going on in political blocks right now. and i don't want to ask you from your vantage point. do you believe that looked at us? so there's rivals in the pro iran coordination framework block? do you believe that they're showing signs of any internal divisions? i'm asking that because you know, it's been reported on the one hand that there are some leaders in that block that, that want to see dialogue go forth. and there are other leaders within that block that would like to see counter demonstrations. it looks go back actually a few weeks back to when i looked at the sender was still invested in the political
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process and in creating a government. and at that time, something that was very telling was that in his pursue of the majority and opposition government, he actually did reach out to certain segments of the coordination framework. namely, almost every one but former prime minister knew a mankey in order to get them on his side and to collaborate with them and to marginalize nike in the process. so what we see here is their unwillingness to step away from the coordination framework and to form an alliance list other back then, which actually speaks to their remarkable a connectedness and their remarkable degree of united nist that they're showing at this point. this i don't think is really based on any ideology but more of a calculation that united they are a threat or they are mincey powerful when put up against most of the sudden. but if they go to his side than it we can some individually. so i think that's a calculus that they made back when the offer was even war more attractive than it
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is right now. and i think right now we do see different kinds of messages from different leaders in the coordination framework, but they don't seem to be messages that are countervailing messages. and anyway, so we'll see they have been calling for the progression of public property, of for a dialogue and for really doing things within the outlines of, of, of the law and of procedures that are trained in the state. so they, they do are present a somewhat united front and we can't really expect them to be more united than this because they are a group of very powerful individuals, some of paramilitary groups who have been accustomed to being independently strong actors. so there, it's a multi polar kind of set up the coordination framework rather than a hedge, a monic or you to pooler one with molecules. they don't. is it any surprise to you that the other supporters were able to enter parliament and that they are able to
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stay there now and from your perspective, how long might we see parliament occupied by these protesters? not at all. unfortunately, the reality in iraq is that most of these political parties were the armed wings, as mentioned by marquis, are people that are able to, to infiltrate them, bypass many security, mature points. this is a very easy one, comparing them to the october 2019 process movements and protesters and try to access a few bridges that would lead them to, to have a square which is a public score. and they were met with political violence either from the political parties that are currently in dispute today, or from their own doings, or from a 3rd party. as the governmental media likes to refer to them to push away or hideaway accusation from the political parties involved in assassinating these protesters. unfortunately, the political parties and disputes are lost, which is the coordination of framework. and the federal movement equally,
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are able to, to bypass and even the to checkpoint and, and face any governmental premises and enter any governmental building without fixing a similar consequences. but we're faced by the peaceful protesters, hom and how did the relationship between us other and iran get so bad? what went wrong? but actually sandra has spent considerable time in iran, especially in the city of old, in the past 2 decades. he has repeatedly are come to iran. he even met your own supreme leader numerous times in the past decade it's, it's very difficult to tell exactly what went wrong. one tv is that most that are, that is the person who he changes his mind very frequently. another reason perhaps can be that he had a quite good relationship with cost, and so the money ah,
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after his death, perhaps that's not existing anymore. but ultimately i think he's a person who's he's very neurotic in the seems to be changing his mind very frequently. but in the past year, i think relations between iran and that has become very bad marcin. how involved is iran right now in, in the doc? obviously they, they've been involved in adopt for a long time. but is it a more hands off approach at the moment, or is there a lot of pressure being brought to bear on or off by iran right now? well, when government formation was still under way in the sense that most of us. busy others and invested in it. there was iranian involvement in the sense of the fanatic pressure and presence in order to get the various groups in iraq to come to an agreement on simply because of how long it was taking
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a iran will always have insulins to some degree in iraq. but this particular government formation cycle, i think, for an intervention in iraq, the politics has been less than usual, not nonexistent. what is interesting though, is basically looks to the centers bid to form a majority. government with his kurdish and with a sunny allies was something that was supported by a lot of arab countries and in the region. and we see that their intervention and trying to push this through has failed. so there are, there are various warrant actors were invested in the outcome of iraq selection and government from asian they do. how concerned are you right now that, that adult could slide into real civil strife? i mean, what are the chances this could get much worse than that violence could play out in the days or months ahead. 6 a lot of the ongoings or former arm wings that belong to a lot of the political parties,
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whether it be the subject or the bonds within the coordination framework. do have a history of an armed complex, particularly when we talk about the, the traditional, their story called monarchy and further rivalry existed since 2006 when some of the, the political parties with them, the coordination trademarks listed out of the suggest movement in the early stages of the use invasion, so there is a history of civil strife. however, the possibility might be a bit lower than in the early stages of the us invasion. there are more platforms of dialogue. there are one political parties and political individuals that are very powerful and today the rock that would rather continue or take this forward in a peaceful dialogue because the rock is going. ready through a sense of sober 29 team kotis movement, the political system or the political class of 2003 iraq is going through a very drastic transition period where it is determined whether this political
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system will survive. whether this ethnic civilian political system will survive, it has been questioned by the rising political consciousness of the use of the civil society. international community is also realizing the alarming effects of the failures of medical class towards education, public goods, public services, and the sovereignty of the rocket borders, including the, the, the alarming impacts on iraq, the sovereignty from equally from different regional power players including iran. ready so this is certainly an issue that will be considered in the long term. however, there will be more platforms of dialogue. dot could ensure that this crisis is not political than it really relates to the my daily lives within iraq. or this i just movement does by the hearts and minds. so many people across the spectrum when it comes to nationalism and reform. but in reality, as we noticed and the lowest bolter turned out since the, the,
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the establishment of the current iraqi democratic system, it proves that most iraqis, the non affiliate and so for these political parties, and they do not affiliated themselves for this political system. and they hope to see a different political system, as they don't as interesting, you're bringing up all these mass protests that happened in 2019 i was in baghdad. i covered covered many of those protests in october, november of that year in 2018 and i encountered so many members of these youth protestors who said they had no faith in government whatsoever. they wanted a complete overhaul of the political system. i'm curious, get your perspective if you think that there is a chance that we might see mass protests again, like what we saw in 2019 there is the possibility that we will witness. similar must protest. however, unfortunately, the be the focus for the momentum of the process movement has lowered
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due to a lot of distractions that dragged away the attention from the previous movements. and also created a lot of pessimism amongst the rocky youth. as you probably recall, right after the, shortly after the breakout of the, of over 21900 post this movement with a lot of the stabilizing events that took place whether it was the assassination of them. so they money, whether it was the political violence attempts connected by the ongoings of the political parties within the rocket governments towards the peaceful protesters or the political. ready favors and ensuring to create a caretaker government that would be different from some of their faces, from the some of the political parties and interest groups that the people initially revolted against from the 1st place. so this might be just another event for incidence, or another series of incidents that will distract the people and pull the people
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away from giving them hope. change is off the boat by only protesting. however, that currency, it's on the boulders in the course of the political parties not are trying and one way or another to save this political system. however, if you have players such as most of the father would like to redefine the political system under his own terms, for objectives, he had signed a very long. hm. and what steps do you think? we'll see iran take if, if what is happening now in adopt escalades and if it causes serious instability i think this is happening at a very sensitive time for here on i don't think you are once this unrest to continue your honest, currently engaged in very sensitive negotiations on it's nuclear issue with the united states. it's also engaged in negotiations with saudi arabia where iraq is actually hosting these negotiations. so i think these on rests are actually
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happening at a very bad time for you on. and i think you on, once these on rest to end as soon as possible. i, nevertheless, i don't think iran has the necessary influence in the necessary tools to end this. i think are you're on. we'll try to negotiate and facilitate negotiation between the 2 sides. but as i said before, i think the relationship between iran and most adult sandra has the terry you deteriorated in the past year of go on you, which is the new ahead of the puts force of your on my he doesn't join the same kind of relationship that so they money enjoyed with not at our side. so i think ultimately you on has to engage with some sort of negotiation with mazda dad sat there to fix the situation. marcin briefly. i want to ask you about them. how bad is the situation currently for ordinary adoptee citizens?
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i mean, we're talking about a political stalemate. we're talking about a political crisis. but how was all this impacting a citizens in a country where there is such high unemployment or where they've not been able to approve a budget? where there's joblessness, where people are so frustrated. how bad are things getting for normal every day? average adopters. last and months of honestly been excruciating for the average or off each because of the lack of government. and as you said, the lack of a budget, there hasn't really been any room to implement any improvements in terms of services or to be able to provide for employment through private sector and sadly through public sector as well, which is an advisable iraqis do look forward slash so everyday citizens are quite fed up with the impasse that has been the longest and passenger on those 2003 history. busy so it is making life really difficult for everyone,
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particularly as the climate crisis are, are really hard with continuous sound storms occurring on a several times a month that had made everyday life very, very difficult. busy when it comes to this actual protest movement and its effect on everyday life, to be honest, its effect on traffic and on the streets in belt, that hasn't been very noticeable. there's been less people outside of their homes than usual, but the city, the hiler and the cities really is really contained to the areas around the international. so, all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave our conversation there. thanks so much, all of our guests they doing and county massena, somebody and hom, it was off and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter or
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