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yellen scuse rebels attack the united arab emirates at least 3 people are said to have died when drones struck oil facilities near abu dhabi airport. what message or who he sending as yemen civil war and has it 7th year. this is in so story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i am rob madison. the united arab emirates has promised it will retaliate against the most significant who if he attack in its soil in years rebels stock an oil refinery near the airport of the capitol,
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abu dhabi, at least 3 people. are reported to have been killed. satellite photos shows smoke at a dep, all of the abu dhabi national oil companies. the cities police say 3 fuel tanks had exploded the u. e as part of the saudi led coalition fighting the hoodies in yemen . since 2015, the coalitions responded with air strikes on yelman's, capital, santa killing, at least 12 people. the hoodies are wanting of more retaliations. want to had there are, well, i didn't, was aloha the armed forces warned foreign companies and citizens residing in the u . 8 in enemies states that they will not hesitate to expand the bank of targets to include more important size and facilities during the coming period. or since the war began, the united arab emirates has taken an active role in yemen, but in 2019 the u. e. withdrew its forces from aden. it said it was part of an effort to strike a p still would the horses m r i d troops still had a significant role in supporting the southern transitional council. it's
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a group of separatists who want independence for southern yemen. in 2018, the u. e said the hoodies were behind another attack on a fuel devil and avo darby airport. and earlier this month, the hook you say they seized an m r at he flagship. you know, the port city of her data. the saudi led coalition says the vessel was transporting medical supplies. the ok, let's bring in our guests in humans capital son, i, journalist hussein elbow katie in london. elizabeth candle is a senior research fellow at pembroke college at the university of oxford. and in bristol, we have southern alkalis, he's an academic and political analysts. thank you very much indeed. all the for joining us. elizabeth, let me ask you 1st. there's a lot. we still don't know about these attacks. one happened at a busy international airport. both were close to residential areas, but in the 24 hours, immediately after the attacks, there been very little videos on social media. there's been very little comment
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about what do you make of all of this? i, i think that's what's happening is everyone's assessing the extent and the impacts of the attack before they rushed to conclusions. and this is very smart, especially on the part of the u. a. e. they don't want any joke reaction, but i think it's safe to say already that this is a very significant developments in the war. although it's not completely unprecedented. no, that have been to see the claim, the tax on the u. a before. it's much more usual to see this type of coordinates. it's drone and ballistic missile attack, against saudi arabia, the immediate neighbor of the fees to the north. and in fact, they've been about a 1000 such attacks on saudi arabia since the war begun. but no attack like this involving the loss of life in the united arab emirates. so this is a major breach of view. a security lives have been lost. it's deep into your
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territory. it's a real escalation and it opens up yes. and the regional dimension to the conflict and are sent to the eminence as we said, had claim to at least have scaled down its presence in yemen, at least in terms of its own troops. the hutus, as elizabeth just mentioned, have been focusing on saudi arabia. why attacks the i'm or it's not what's prompted this because as you mentioned that the data but it has the deescalate involvement. of course, they have withdrawn some of the person in untruths for me, yemen, but they continue to support the separate different support groups that the are even not loyal to the so called the government. they just want to divide. yemen is like they say, divide and conquer and, and what about the latest attacker? because united arab emirates, after they withdrawn from data cause they have sent dues to call the giant brigade
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to shop while they start the fighting. and then, and i thought of it, but it has, it is fully resumed. it's a strike against many area not only in sub was will in matter and in the modern in other area. that's why you, many me and some of the army commander here. they have warning tonight out of in minute about a week ago that if they are not going to stop that, i talk the yemen will attack a united arab emirates. this is exactly what had been done. i believe that the, if you know data will continue as they did in the last 24 hours in the response to the attack on united w. they have thought to get it that has done jill area in this and are killing 12 civilians in an 11 and that our civil civil beeble is still missing. 10 people is unique family. they called the father, the mother of their nephews and nieces and the daughter under sons. and that's why i think that in the coming days we might see a major attack against united out of invalid because the latest attack on santa was
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conducted by united out of emitted fight to get. so because i do you think that the who she's are capable of actually producing a sustained campaign against the united out of eminence, or are we going to see a series of intermittent attacks similar to what we've seen so far? well, could be in fact, yeah, but not really i don't think the, you know, presenting a very real threat to security. so frontier united out of immigrants. i think that this attack, it's not going to flashing their muscles. i mean, you know, the iranian muscles, if i'm in shape because we all know that to be backed by iran is a proxy war on behalf of iran happening and human. however, i love that it's a very dangerous escalation. and i think, you know, the wise people, and if i may say, should take into consideration that this is
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a relation of the sovereignty and integrity of not that much the course threat to the security of the region. and this escalation wouldn't not lead to anywhere whatsoever. and we all know very well that the who t has conflicted so many casualties and defeats in the front line. and the, the official government forces. i mean the, the, the army on that is just as, of course, you know, joint by the giant brigade to be, we have america has mashed has mars to or shove, well, and now there are marching to behind her aid. and this major, you know, this major bottom fee and we're really had heart the whole, these presidents legion, this is why they are trying to wear the quarter to punish united out of him as of
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such a war months. because, you know, you might not leave the, you know, training and be just, you know, supplying munitions and arming the, the trying to put a gauge and the other official government's forces and the region. so hopefully seems that by doing this by talking, you know, civilian targets or, or even refineries and up would that be the capital of united in much might, might, might, you know, put holds on such effects of the united out of the month in the region. i mean, you know, in the elizabeth i want to ask you about the point that someone just brought up there. those links that are believed to have be existing between iran and the host . these were at a stage if i understand it correctly for a saudi arabia under ron,
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in the midst of ongoing exploratory talks as they've been described, which are being hosted in iraq and they're being hosted by baghdad. but i understand that we're also, some iranian officials have moved to jet just in the last 24 hours or so in order to be part of the the organization for hispanic cooperation which condemned these attacks. now my, my question is this, is this the right time for the who seems to be carrying out a tax like best when there appears to be some effort on the parts of saudi arabia and iran to reach some sort of agreement between them? yes, that's the $60000000.00 question. i think it's important to understand at the moment that we're not clear on precisely how closely the who sees and iran collaborated on these particular attacks. and that's, that's important because it helps inform the message that, that trying to send us. and i think it's also important to point out that the who
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fees are supported by iran, but they're not a direct proxy the who these can still make independent decisions. so what kind of message is being sent at this time? i think we can read this in various ways. and these pivot really around 2 parallel strands of iran talks, as you say, there's a regional independence dialogue happening between iran. i'm saudi arabia and also iran. the united arab emirates, and who's the message perhaps in that case is look, we're still head, we're a persistent threat and it doesn't matter if you make sideline agreements with iran . we are an independent entity, and we're still going to be bellicose. the other strands, the 2nd strand is of course the international j. c. p. always a nuclear deal for these are reaching quite a fraud position at the moment as an urgency to get them over the line. so this
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could be iran, sending a message to the international community, saying look, what we can do. we can be stabilize the region. you need to give us more, you need to yield more to our demand. so, but you, what you were shaking your head of the 1st part of elizabeth sounds that i had to just tell me what you think about elizabeth's response. well, i, you know, i'm really confused by this what she's saying. she's saying that maybe it's not going to clear that the, who is doing a practice on behalf of on and then another what she said that the next trend. maybe it's a message from iran, the community down to the americans that you know, we have to give up, you know, to give us, you know, some, you know, some concessions. and so i think, you know, we need to make up our minds and we need to make sure that after 70 years, how can we suspect our knowledge or wisdom that toby is independence of the effect of the,
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of iranian very well iran district is playing poker poker game with that region and with the world they are holding, you know, for college in lebanon in iraq and. ready syria and yemen. however, however, there are some rumors on the machine about that. those attacks is not conflicted or, you know, done by the movies. there are some movement. there are some security reports. it might have come from, from iran. the same as aramco to use a goal or came from iraq and iraq, have you know, 60 militias, under the leadership of is michael carney, our quotes of the gates, you know, leader. and they are, you know, they're receiving their, you know, orders from them to hang so. so the, let me enter eyes rolled. rob. yep. forgive me for interrupting you, but i take your point. i think elizabeth,
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we should stress that elizabeth was saying, it's not clear of what the link is that it's not to say that there isn't a link, or there is it to simply do the actual links than def. the definition, if you like, of that link isn't clear, but i want to come to her st. bahati because you of course in santa you are working along side or working. certainly in a situation where the huskies are operational from your experience. and is there any indication that there is a specific link between an iran and the hoodies and iran could be controlling what is happening on the grounds where the hoof is. now, i don't want to get too deeply into this because we are talking, of course, about the emirates, but i just think that this is an important point to try and make clear what's your analysis briefly, sir? if you would of what that situation is. i mean, the iran, of course, it's a board the human politically and will throw out to the media on them as well. mohammed job to sell the spokesperson and federal law said the months ago that the
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human is getting some help from iran, kind of information about building the military information about the bins and building and making the weapons. but, but the claim that that odd weapons come in by the stick me 5 to 12 meter long, and if you will and wait, that's that they are more willing to yemen. i mean, the amount is under blockade. and so the target in there is a small boat and a small ships as small fishing boats. so how can they run smoking this type of weapons and is that it is really actually funny or silly that we still here, especially neither of them are that they blame iran, i'm they, as will they claim that the war that involvement in yemen is because to liberate yemen from iran. and on the other hand, we see that united out of that has a great relationship with iran. they have truck from a coma kid deals with the iran. they have some security deals and they have in busy
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between them. and i mean why you come in to fight it in, in yemen. i don't. but honda united ought to be able to claim that the iran is local by into the island. they mean, is it better tonight out of a matter, to liberate the country as they claim, then coming to liberate yemen from what they say, the iranian involvement. but what, what actually the coalition is doing, they try to make any attack that is not will not effect but the v. c at the beginning of the war. it was a so the new united out of image to advancing on the ground lounge and attack on the strike against yemen. but now after 7 years, is this the, i know that out of image now who are right, start to cry out loud to the international community. i know they are talking about the security of that. he did this mean that yeah, many policies here and i am any are to be audited. i know not the only 2. so the, for the night out of in the fall in yemen, but as well to the tonight out of the american self. and so the, and one final thing about talking that the latest attack is against civilians. a
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lot of in like i would report your facility. yes. those are civilians. but we came meeting him and they say to a conclusion, i what i united out of in that it has destroyed with us the all the money is bought all your mom port. they have bombed schools, mosque and everything. just imagine about more than $400000.00 a year. many civilians have died either by the blockades or by this point i want to move on. only just one last boys. 100 civilians have been killed according to the night out of minutes in the, on the attack that coming from me, i'm going to show you that demo voted are capable to avoid civilians as much as they can. ok, i want to buy entry, wanted to kind of expand on that point and bring us back to the the incident that we've seen. just recently, elizabeth, given the fact that the ambulance has removed a lot of its own troops from the ground in yemen. do you think that that is going
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to encourage it to month even greater attacks in yemen from not because it has fewer of its own citizens to be put at risk? yes. as possible, as my colleagues just pointed out, one of the triggers of this attack. now may be that the u, a e back forces have played a crucial role and pushing back to see advances in shop le and my rib. and so the message from the he sees in that case might be pull back. you a who your back forth is away, or that could be was to come. now, this might well backfire. i think it's likely to backfire. what it's likely to do is to steal the result of the united arab emirates against the hoof fees. and to also perhaps help mend some of the risk that had started to appear inside the saudi led coalition and hold them back together again to really try to counter the who
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threat all come back to bite them inside the country. so, but let me ask you about the, the, the global perception of this, the, the p r l, and then tell that there was a period of time. and certainly in the last 2 years of the b, m, and war. when it was widely regarded as a p r disaster for the coalition, saudi arabia, and for those involved in it, do you think that the moratti's would be willing to risk that p r. disaster again, by increasing the number of attacks in yemen. they are not as q in going to p r, in fact, return to what sorts of aggressive factors that talk to their facilities on to send to their civilians. hello. but i just want to remind you that there are in the united nation resolution at 2216. which clearly state
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that this is the who has made the call and they have to withdraw their forces from yemen and submit everything their weapons on their armies to the legitimate governments of, of president either of the had the most sure. don't forget that this is international brigade commission is one the other think, you know, after the shot that from yesterday afternoon of 247 international condemnation for moreover, the was united nation, the usa, britain, european union, france, in particular, most of the arabs and most of the in asia, india, militia, pakistan and this means this means that this is how, how aggressive and how you build this attack to the, to the united, out of us. on the contrary, if i may say,
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on the contrary from it and say that i think the forces and this a few, excuse me, i quote, and this once matter shall be hon. i mean, how do you mella a java? this is a final bill won't line battlefield, they will march forward. this is why this is why the who are crying and then of the day let me make it basically, this is the war is not between united arab emirates, answer the reviewer or the, or the, the, or the, you know, the lions against who see. no, it's between the arabs and iran. i repeat between the arabs and iraq. and what i, what i, what button fields in 4 and 4 countries in iraq and then so it and there and the man on the webinar and, and celia, this is very clear. i'm please tell me, i don't, i mean,
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it's really funny to listen to people saying that they have, i mean, they have been a mis ios or they have drones. and they think that, you know, iran shipping them only, you know, support, particular support and media support. no, they are supporting them with all kinds of weapons. there is no manufacturing facilities in yemen or in for the, the amount is also going to decide, let me, let me out of today to pick up on the point that somebody is making there. if there is international condemnation and criticism of this action by the cookies, will that be enough for the cookies to rain and to show what some would regard as on the shore response proper response. they've made their point, they've, they've, they've hit the united alabama. it's and now they do know more if there is that
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international pressure in order to acknowledge that response from the international committee with the cookies. do you think be prepared to do that? i mean, the oldest contamination from many countries, most of the countries are either in the, as he said, some other nation are in the coalition or some countries who have a good time with the desire to stay to island as well. from countries like u. k, france, any like state who are fully supporting disorder and making billions of dollars and selling the was just i want to make well, one thing get clear of who is actually now crying out loud is not on federal law. the hope the is the united out of image to celebrate and, and so do you with this type of condemnation? we should have said here that any international calls or any you in security council decision or resolution, they said they will put them under their feet. so they don't care about that because they know that the insecurity cause that is in the hands of the united states and united states is in line with the united out of imitate. and so the,
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so they will do whatever it take to help this to country. and remember the beginning of the war when the night of the nation has removed. so you from an unite out of in, but i put on the list for killing children of the time the security did general said that they are, they blackmail us. they but i said as they will cut fund, that's why we have removed that name from that list. on the 2nd year. they have found the coalition for avoid in killing you have any children in the show you that evidence and they don't believe the international community and they will do what it takes to to attack. so got a bill out of him at one time because i want to get the last question to elizabeth elizabeth, forgive me because we only have a few seconds left in a couple of sentences, given the level of international pressure that we have here. we've seen talks between the who sees and saudi arabia and various other sites which have reached a stalemate. we've seen this military action and i am, i do,
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please forgive me because we don't have a lot of time. how do you see this playing out over the next few weeks? well, i think there are 3 main implications of this. first of all, it changes the calculus, both united arab emirates and saudi arabia towards the ball. it shows them what could happen in their own countries. second, it makes an agreement with iran even more just because even if the who these are acting independently, well, they need that weapons replenished from somewhere, someone supplying them someone a strength them. and it's very likely that that is iran and then said yemen sheets, the international agenda, it may have fallen off with other problems like afghanistan or ethiopia. but now with the region potentially ablaze with the over spill that everyone was concerned about from the m and more actually, that is a possibility. i think everyone's eyes will turn back and see em. elizabeth, thank you very much. indeed. i want to say thanks to all our guests who st. alba, haiti, elizabeth kendall on, silva all jose. and of course,
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