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[000:00:00;00] ah ah a sedan in political turmoil, again, prime minister of de la hun dot resides less than 2 months after being reinstated. on the streets protested, continue to demand an end to the military rule. at least 3 people were killed and security forces have fight tear gas at demonstrators.
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ah, hello robin, you watch a lot. is there a life my headquarters here in doha also coming up. joe biden tell, says ukrainian counterpart that the us and its allies will respond decisively if russia further invades ukraine. also fire at the south african parliament causes extensive damage, please her arrested. a man for arson and u. s. health officials, warm health care system could come under strain because of a surgery on the chrome cases. ah. welcome to the program. so don's prime minister, abdullah ham dock has resigned less than 2 months after he signed a deal with the military following a coo. there's been a political deadlock between all parties during the countries transition from dictatorship to democracy. during his speech on state television,
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ham dock said more talks are needed in order for all parties to come to a deal. what on the opposite? opposite the other one we should, we needed a round table for this, our vision of the country to come to an agreement. i tried to spare my country the disaster. recently i met with all the civilian and military officials of the transitional council to adjust his issues on monday after i decided to return to you what you have entrusted to me and resign the position of prime minister. ignition comes after the violent protest took place across the country on sunday, which left at least 3 people dead in ogden. earlier police, $510.00 gas crowds marching on the presidential palace in cartoon so far $57.00 people have been killed since rallies began in october. when the military seized power, let's cross over to him. morgan, a correspondent, income team, his monitoring events force. obviously, the full, the prime minister, gave some reasons for his resignation, but the speech was
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a very long one on state television. what else did he say about his departure? well, he mentioned a lot of things including the things that he achieved during his tenure as prime minister just over 2 years. but he also said that the reason why he became prime minister in the 1st place was because of the constitutional declaration. that's the power sharing agreement that was signed between the force of freedom and change coalition. and the military following the overthrow of president arnold machine. he said that political consensus was the reason why he was appointed as prime minister and the lack of that political consensus is why he's resigning. now. he had em emitted clear that he wanted to resign for more than 2 weeks now. but then over the past 2 weeks, he said he met with the various components of the transitional government, including the military components, the a political parties, as, as well as the a parties that signed a peace agreement with the transitional government to try to reach
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a consensus that's because when he signed that agreement, the agreement with the military on november 21st, after the takeover in october last year, many political parties were against it while very few supported it. and that created a deadlock with many people saying that they want to continue to protest. they want the military out of the political scene, thus placing prime minister hambrick in a very rough or tough position. now he had tried to and that a deadlock tried to break that deadlock and ran the end that political crisis saying if it's not averted than sudan will spiral into what he said was going to be a turmoil. and because he's not able to achieve that, he has resigned from his position. so we're in this scenario, i'm heber that the ham dork has been behind the scenes trying to get everybody together to talk. how much of this is actually been relayed coherently to the sudanese people because they are still angry about the agreement with the military
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. they're still out on the streets. so one wonders with this news late him to the night in sudan, they'll be angry and confused about what the future has in store while people will be angry. yes, but then it would probably be because the military is now the only dominating actor in the political scene. now, since prime minister abdullah ham dog signed that agreement on november 21st with the military. many people in the streets regarded him as the enemy. that's because prior to that agreement to when the military take over happened, he was placed under house arrest. and for the protesters under streets, he became a symbol of civilian rule. with many people demanding his release and his reinstatement, but also the, the reinstatement of the civilian political figures who were arrested when he came back and those figures did not. when the forces of freedom in change coalition was sideline from the political scene. here in sudan and when the resistance committees, the bodies that have been leading the protest,
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they say when their demands were not met in the agreement, that was signed between prime minister hm. dog and the military. he became an enemy as well. so for many of them, they say whether he resigned or, or not, especially since we knew that he wanted to resign for 2 weeks. now, many protesters say whether he resigns or not is not the issue. their main focus right now is for the military to be removed from power to return to their barracks and for civilian government to be installed in position. they say that there will be more protest in the coming days. it's not clear how the military react already more than 50 people having killed hundreds, had been injured and more protests as christ scheduled in the coming days. here. more getting caught. you. thank you. knowledge. harding reports on de la handoffs political career. so fall have done the hemmed up, emerged as leader in 2019 after the overthrow of su dan's authoritarian president. omar bashir, the country's main civilian coalition, the forces of freedom and change. so hum duck as
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a man to help sudan transition from dictatorship to democracy. he had previously worked in the ministry of finance before taking up top jobs and african development funds and serving as the deputy commissioner of the un economic commission for africa. as prime minister hum duck oversaw a severe financial crisis during which inflation sort beyond 400 percent. but he still managed to end the civil conflict and r 4 with the jew but peace agreement of october 2020. he also successfully lobbied the u. s. and the world bank to remove sudan from the list of sponsors of terrorism, and convinced global financial institutions to provide debt relief and economic aid . but in october this year, the military led by a bill fought the hand berg, han staged a military takeover. placing prime minister hummed up under house arrest and
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putting members of his cabinet in prison. a month later, hum duke was released and reinstated, after international condemnation of the coup, he then agreed to form a government of technocrats and sideline political groups. but many stood meas, felt he had betrayed the revolution. anti military demonstrations have since led to the killings of dozens of protesters by police and security forces. ham duke has been unable to stop the violence, secure the release of political prisoners, or install a government that would remove military interference. and now it seems he is left with no choice but to concede defeat and resign leah harding al jazeera. turning the ally from doors. emmett ali, he's a sudanese lawyer and legal commentator could tuffy with us on the program. so according to you might say, the sudanese people that had a love hate relationship with abdullah ham dock. his resignation does create
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a void. so who could possibly fill it? thanks for having me. i think the reaction to his departure will depend on the august, i think, for many sudan he was as your report mentioned, he was a hero until he decided to ally himself with the, with the military. so that his removal, as far as they're concerned, the last fig leaf that was covering this regime and what remains is a full fledged military military dictatorship. so i think the international community will now will likely grease its pressure on the military regime with the hope of heating the demands of the city streets and, and installing a pull civilian rule. so the, the future is, is, is in the hands of the people who are demanding their freedom. indeed, as you say, you know who it's not quite obvious. this was a military good, has been full,
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as long as the protests have been going on. and while you politely say he was officially that's been removed, i'd say it's a sticking plaster over a gaping wound. i mean, this wound that is the qu, needs to be sorted out one way or another. you can have so much international pressure, but at the end of the day, you need brains on the ground. people who know how government works in some shape or form to be able to talk to the military in a way that they would potentially go back to their barrack. is there any body? is there any group? because at the moment what have de la dock is saying is the, even the civil society groups he's trying to get round the table won't even talk to each other properly. i think i think that is that is the challenge that the pro democracy is is facing, which is the lack of leadership and left lack of organization. having said that, they've been some promising signs in the last few days and weeks where their resistance committees and the f. c and other groups are finally starting to get
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organized to, to one present the united front. but more importantly, to present a clear roadmap as to what is the alternative because that is the typical question that the international community is posing if not the military. what is, what is the alternative? so by, by coming together and presenting a united front and a clear and cohesive pathway to a full civilian rule, i think that will gain, gave them a lot of credibility and will hopefully enable a peaceful transition from, from, from the perspective of the military. i think the challenge will also be the question of accountability. i think that the more bloodshed than the more these demonstrations take place, the more it's will become difficult to talk about a p full transition and a what, what do you typically see in these situations, which is some type of safe exit for the military?
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but i think it's not too late for those discussions through to take place and a combination of sorry, i don't actually stick to, i would disagree with that. possibly for what we're seeing and what we're reading. it does actually seem that the, the military don't want a polite way to bow out at any of this. they want control and they want continued control. they want to destroy civil society because 11 does with 70, protested injured even on sunday. the civil society remains defiant. so what, what is the protest and the protest movement actually achieved? except when he, in direct me solidifying the military position? well, i mean, it's a classic confrontation between an, an, unstoppable force that in movable objects. but i do think that people will prove that this object is, is, is removable. what, what, what the demonstrators have demonstrated so far. and we'll continue to demonstrate, is that so that is really ungovernable for these, for this group. and the international community will also recognize that and the,
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the ultimate options facing the, the army will be step aside peacefully or risk and internal crew or god forbid, risk risk, a civil war in the country. and, and if faced with these 3 options, the hope is that they will elect the 1st option, which is to peacefully step aside under some type of a moderated exit. a very difficult time to sit on his facing right now for the moment. and that was the thanks so much for joining us from joe. thank you. now, the u. s. presence has told his ukrainian counselor lobby as lensky that the united states will respond decisively if russia further encroaches on ukrainian territory . the leaders spoke earlier about russia's build up of tens of thousands of troops near ukraine border, and they prepared for diplomatic talks later this month. that will also involve russia nater aiming to the escalate the conflict and spoke on thursday with russian president tutoring,
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threatening him with sanctions of moscow. continues that threats potentially to invade ukraine. let's get more on the situation from john henderson who's joining us in washington. d. c. the phone calls continued out, they john between 3 very important presidents. 11 does what today's conversation between biden and zaleski really achieved. well, they do keep coming those phone calls and they follow a familiar familiar pattern just a 3 weeks ago. biden called prudent, and then a couple days later he called volota mir. there's a landscape of ukraine in the same way called food on thursday. and here we are in the us on sunday with him talking to let him years alaska once again. and you use the key words that are in the statement that comes out of the white house read out from that. gen saki, the press secretary issued this statement, and she said, president biden made clear that the united states and its allies will respond decisively if russia further invades ukraine,
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it goes on to say the leaders express support for diplomatic effort. and there are a lot of diplomatic efforts going on in europe. this week there was a meeting between the 10th and the 13th rush. we'll meet with the us. it will meet with representatives of nato, and it will meet with representatives of european countries. all of that churning the diplomacy, trying to stop what seems like a pending invasion with a 100000 russian troops lining the border of ukraine, seemingly poise to invade. that statement goes on to say that indeed the president promised he would do nothing about you without you. meaning he's not going to have a bilateral conversation, which seems to be what latimer potent wants. he is trying to have a conversation about the fate of ukraine without necessarily involving that countries. it's biden who keeps bringing lensky in. that statement goes on to say, he reaffirmed the united states commitment to ukraine sovereignty and territorial
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integrity. the u. s. and other countries still object to the russian takeover of crimea and the support of the separate separatist movement in eastern ukraine. specifically, biden has threatened economic sanctions. he's threatened to bring more military might, in the eastern part of europe under the auspices of nato and more military quitman in ukraine itself. all of those are things that russia doesn't want. putin seems to want a buffer there any want to promise that ukraine will never become part of nato and biting his told him as a decision between ukraine and nato. he's gotten support from the head of the house intelligence committee. adam schiff told the sunday talk shows this morning. he said, only enormous sanctions will be enough to deter russia and, but he went on to say that he believes that potent is quote, very likely to invade. john, thanks very much for the john henry force in washington dc. well, still
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a had here on al jazeera marches in iraq to remember casino for the money. the powerful iranian general killed us drones strike 2 years ago and with food prices at the highest level in almost a decade. you look at how people in serbia are struggling to make ends meet those stories after the break. ah hello, good to see you. a big change in the weather, across the southern parts of the united states and look at, we're looking at temperatures here, houston 11, little rock 6. this is after many in this area, set record temperature. so you're certainly feeling that show here all because that cold front did punch across same story goes for d. c, just 3 degrees. we've got some flurries and snow, swooping through this area also a lot of snow coming for western canada. we've seen it through vancouver that snow
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fall warning falling through the cascades is wall. that cold still with us that deep cold in winnipeg minus 20 the high for you. is that snow, the cascade spilling into washington state, oregon, just in to northern california with another about of rain to come? remember all those storms in the southeast of the us. we see that energy draped over here. so, southern mexico into guatemala believes we've got some heavy rain for you. top end of south america, it's our usual storm through the pay ruby and andes into the amazon basin right into rio de janeiro. we've also got storms sweeping across our paraguay. so this is really knocked down the temperature and saw the on to just a high of 32, but there's that stormy mix of weather rio de janeiro. so paulo. so paulo got a high of 26 degrees on monday. that's your update. see later, the gutter, one of the fastest growing nations in the,
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the cargo needed to open and develop it into national shipping company to become a team, middle east, and tough or trade and money skillfully enough re key is up to about filling up from it. the connecting the world connecting the future the cato got to gateway to whoa trade. ah ah ah, what you will just bear with me so ill run the reminder of our top story, saddam's prime minister, the landlord has resigned less than 2 months after he signed to deal with the military following a qu,
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during his speech and upset more talks are needed in order for all parties to come to an agreement comes as protested, clashed with security forces. once again to continue the fight against the military rule that these 3 people were killed. in other news, joe biden has told his ukrainian counterpart, the u. s. will respond decisively for further encroaches on ukraine's territory repaired for diplomatic talks later this month, that will also involve russia and mated a need to deescalate the conflict. now find that devastated south africa's parliament building in cape town is financial control. it broke out early in the morning and has extensively damaged the national assembly chamber, where the politicians said a man has been arrested hard as to to appear in court on tuesday to the wolf as war in cape town. a national monument and symbol of south african democracy, up in flames. a fire tour through cape towns, buildings of parliament,
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sunday severely damaging the offices of south africa, the ruling party. and later spreading to the national assembly, south african president, several ram, oppose that calling it a devastating event. but insisting that the work of parliament must go on much as it is disappointing, devastating. there is something that can be grateful for, for these men and women. in uniform, go into the most dangerous places that you can ever think of. him and i live. the devastation occurred on the heels of the state. the funeral of archbishop desmond tutu held a day earlier just streets away. the presidents and many of south africa, high ranking politicians already in the city to honor the anti apartheid heroes arch. would have been devastated as well. because this is the place that
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he not only supported paid for and wanted to see the repository of the democracy that worked so hard. dozens of firefighters spent whole sunday tackling the blades, police and medical units were also on standby, though no casualties were reported. digits of they said a democracy, parliament is the home of democracy and behind them and is also assist d g, a key point. the national assembly is a symbol of south africa. democracy here is where the president deliver to state of the nation address. and it's also where nelson mandela was elected as the 1st black president of south africa. of course, it's a place that attract tourists from all around the world. next month, president sterile rum, oppose is expected to deliver that state of the nation address. many might expect that this will no longer be the scene, the incidence igniting
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a long time to be to move parliament to the countries capital pretoria. but for a place that serve such a pivotal role during south africa is a part high. the era that is a move many south africans few which strike a painful chord. chilling wolf, al jazeera cape town. in now the mccomb barion turned and bad weather, causing major travel disruptions across the u. s. with many airline staff in sick, the country is seeing up to 2 and a half 1000 flight cancellations a day and a half the world wide. total airlines were offering up to triple pay and a method to boost staffing during the busy close of the holiday season. all of our con cases continue to search across the us, but whitehouse medical chief adviser dot anthony van, she says the number of vaccinated people hospital remains low, like hannah has moved from washington dc. so down to party making very clear that
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the rate of infection is rising at unprecedented levels. however, he adds that given the case studies in other parts of the world in particular south africa. and they could be a drop in the rate in coming weeks. this is the, at the plate way that the virus, the army kron variant has been going up. a doctor found she says, as well, that hospitalizations remain high, but it's significant that the number of those being vaccinated. i do not necessarily respond to the amount of testing that has been done. in other words, the number of cases being entered into hospital is very low among those who are vaccinated, which dr. 40 says is exceedingly significant. and because of that, he adds, may be one should start looking at the hospitalization rates rather than the testing figures. this is what he had to say. this is particularly relevant if you're having an infection that is much,
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much more asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic, particularly in people who are vaccinated and boosted. the real bottom line that you want to be concerned about is, are we getting protected by the vaccines, from severe disease leading to hospitalization. i'm still very concerned about the 10s of millions of people who are not vaccinated at all. because even though many of them are going to get asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic, a fair number of them are gonna get severe disease. but to far she also said that the cdc is reviewing its recommendation that the quarantine rate among those testing positive who are asymptomatic. be reduced to 5 days. they announced that last week, but within that protocol, there was not a testing recommended after that 5 day period, dr. far. she saying that in coming days, the cdc may change this. iraqis of won't be too young of history of the
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assassination since the death of iranian general costume. silly money that's la money was killed in a us try and strike in baghdad. along with the rocky commander of wilma, the hondas and several others, the hit was ordered by the former president, donald trump, to set sort of money was planning an attack on the us interest. mahmud a bill why he didn't back that. he says, the demonstrators have bound recognition you pushing the, carrying into deadly attack. the wreckage of the vehicles that were carrying that 2 commanders at the iranian commander customs lay many unable, madden mondays at up commander of iraq's popular mobilization forces when they were targeted by a u. s. a. to strike thousands have been coming here in the same as pot need about dodge airport. to commemorate the assassination of the 2 commanders,
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people have been lighting candidates here and putting flowers. they have been chanting against the u. s. and against a foreign troops demanding the expulsion of old foreign troops from iraq and reiterating the the resolution passed by the iraqi parliament and january 2020, following the attack stipulating that all foreign troops should leave a rock. these protested to say that they will continue protesting across iraq, in many other provinces. to commemorate the death of the 2 commanders, they say that the demanding action, they say that there must be conclusion to the investigation that is started. 2 years ago. they say the key issue in this occasion today as this sovereignty of iraq. the attack happened on a rocky soil and iraq should take an action against the
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perpetrators table. food prices are at the highest levels in a decade. many people are now struggling to make ends meet when serbia rising fuel and power prices are making the situation even worse, lower. but monday reports the more money in belgrade, choosing carefully what they put in their food basket. and that because prices have food that's supposed to load up 20 percent on a year ago. from a horn on a we have to put prices to get to the end of the month to go through the month without any day. we may have the most of the we don't eat what we want, but what we have here will you always pay for much? i managed to put it together somehow to pay for utilities to pay for electricity to make ends meet the mini probably fail. awesome morgan, it was paid for you. according to the u. n. global food prices rose by 30 percent in the past year, hitting the highest level in almost
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a decade. that's because harvest had been hit hard in major exporting countries, including russia, the us and canada, and that's partly due to bad weather disruptions to supplies to jacoby 19 factor closures and high energy costs are also to blame. in serbia, prices roof by 7.5 percent, but food with more than double that oils and fat rows by 22.5 percent. that's about more than 20 fruits, nearly 17 percent and meets by 14 stocks. and it seems to me that this wave will continue. it will not stop at the end of this year. on the contrary, i think we will have a new wave of price increases. and there are several reasons for that. the 1st is that all excise products will increase in january. there will also be an energy crisis on this madness with the prices of gas electricity. so on. it is under
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the government kept food prices at sugar oil, flour, pork and milk. but that will expire at the end of january, or be a few more often objectively this freezing of the prices of these foods didn't have any effect on stabilizing prices, and it had a psychological impact on consumers and gave the impression that the government is protecting the standard of living. nope. ah many he'll say price wise as far exceeds minimum wage increases, and that's putting pressure. many people to put food on the table. lore about a man the al jazeera. ah, what ga 0. me so robin in doha, reminder of our top story sedans. prime minister, adela hancock has resigned less than 2 months after he signed a deal with the military following a coup or during his speech. i'm doc's at board talks are needed in order for all
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parties to come to an agreement. it comes as protested, clashed with security forces, once again bowing to continue their fight against the military rule. at least 3 people were killed. police fired tear gas at crowns, marching on the presidential palace in cartoon. they were morgan as we following developments from the capital. he mentioned a lot of things, including the things that he achieved during his tenure as prime minister, just over 2 years. but he also said that the reason why he became prime minister in the 1st place was because of the constitutional declaration that the power sharing agreement that was fine between the force of freedom and change coalition. and the military following the overthrow of president armitage. machine, he said that political consensus was the reason why he was appointed as prime minister. and the lack of that political consensus is why he's resigning to buttons has told his ukrainian counterpart the us will respond decisively if russia further encroaches on ukraine's territory during the phone. call they prepared for
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diplomatic talks later this month, that will also involve russia and nato aiming to de escalate the conflict. a person has been arrested in connection with a massive fathers ripped through south africa parliament in cape town. now the fire was extensively damaged. the assembly building where politicians fits parts of the roof clamps, does the faucet through the wing, no casualties have been reported. they all become variant and bad weather, causing major travel disruption in the us with many airline staff out sick. the country is seeing up to $200000.00 flight cancellations a day that's half of the worldwide total airlines are offering up to triple pay in an effort to boost staffing. during the busy close of the holiday season, thousands of people in the netherlands defy the ban on mass gatherings to demonstrate against governments cave. at 900 restrictions, the government imposed a nationwide locked on 2 weeks ago, shutting all non essential stalls, balls, and restaurants. you can follow the stories on our website on their adult coming
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back to more news and half now. next, it's upfront to stay with us. then abrasion tradition life alger there was gained read insight into the diverse culture and couple of the landline together. wedding to monday, announce is it time to stop eating meat and dairy? our food system is driving a 3rd of all human cause, greenhouse gas emissions. and meanwhile, governments continue to provide billions and subsidies to the meeting, dairy industries, or cows. the new coal is some argue i speak with documentary filmmaker kip anderson with 1st. we're running out of time to stop and environmental catastrophe in the
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amazon home to 1000000 indigenous peoples and 3000000 different plant animal species. before our station is on the rise of criticism, as mounting of brazilian president julia and both scenario, who did not attend the recent you in climate conference in glasgow, scotland. is there still hope that the rain forest can be saved? i last executive director an amazon watch, leila salazar lopez, an agronomist and senior fellow shocker. louise fernando. get his pin to the left. alice r lopez and louise fernando give his pink though. thank you so much for joining me on upfront lead. i'm going to start with you in november, deforestation in the amazon hit the highest annual level in 15 years. the the rain forest lost 13235 square kilometers from august of 2020, through july of 2021. that's an area of 17 times the size of new york city. and yet only 9 years ago, brazil had achieved what was
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a remarkable feat. it reduced deforestation by 84 percent from a historical peak back in 2004. so what happened? yes. unfortunately, the amazon rain forest is, is facing in an incredible amount of threats, including deforestation. ah, according to our friends at green piece, the amazon brazilian amazon lost the equivalent of 3 soccer fields every minute. and it's, it's because of the increasing threats to the amazon rain forest and its peoples and threats including industrial activity, industrial agger, prisoners mining and land grabbing. ah, and this is as a result of the government policies that incentivize the destruction
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of the amazon rain forest. the world's largest and most bio culturally diverse tropical rainforest on our planet. ah dis, this deforestation and degradation both legal and illegal is causing an emergency in the amazon and therefore an emergency. in our global climate. lewis started rondo in october activists, submitted a petition to the international criminal court to hold brazilian president jr. bolton auto criminally responsible for the quote ruthless assault on the amazon, that included deforestation and ongoing crimes against humanity. do you agree with that petition? yes, unfortunately i agree the fact is that our president doesn't. busy see any value in the forest in the people of the forest are in nature itself that this administration is skeptical off science is his capital of climate change. so
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they're supporting policies that actually trapped life threat forests throughout. and usually people threats our economy. not only in the local and national level, but also internationally because of resume is a key country interior was off climate change, but also in terms of protecting co serving freshwater and bio diversity. so all these positions the species and ah, decisions from mobile. so model really came back to life and in the global level, and david is he deserves to be judged by that most now has been called a quote, the amazon's worst enemy, by environmental and social groups. but deforestation certainly didn't begin under him. luis fernando brazil's progress has been stalling for years, including under former president roof since 2000 rainfall has declined by 69 percent across the amazon and
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a world wide fun for nature. the w. b. f. estimates that 27 percent of the biome will be without trees. by the year 2030 at the current rate of deforestation continues. how hopefully are you about brazil's chances of saving the rain forest? well, we are very hopeful because we know it's possible to control the 1st facial, not only to amazon buddy, the forest for pantano, somehow or other rusito. nicholas is even given amazed if you're hopeful because it's possible. even given all the circumstances, all the political leanings, all the realities that precede even both in are you still whole format that's encouraging, but surprising a bit. no. in the very short term, it's impossible. with our current resident that will never happen. so i'm hopeful for the future. we're both solo are very luckily, remarked jonas, to be a real actor from 2022. you're going to have a new president. i'm hopeful because we have science. we have knowledge and we
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learned how to control the 1st issue. and let's say it's simple and not say it's easy. but it's possible if you have the political view. the commitment from our government, from companies, from our senior society, not only from brazil, was either nationally, if you have the resources, we can really dramatically and sharply decrease deforestation for the benefit of resilience and the planet as a whole lay look according to your organization, amazon watch the big money drivers behind a deforestation are black rock b in p, a. j. p. morgan chase, hsbc, and sandtown there. while the middle men are cargo soil a, j b, s beef and more freaked beef. there are, of course other retailers that we could mentioned wal mart costco. they're also contributing to the problem according to your research. could you explain exactly how these companies are driving deforestation? yes, if we, if we look at the key drivers of deforestation, ah,
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we look at the land grabbing. if we look at the logging both legal and illegal, the mining and we look at the agribusiness expansion and we're talking about brazil in particular. ah, we go back to the source, what's, what's driving this? what's causing this one? it's government policy that allows this to it's the corporations not are driving this destruction the, the cargo, the 80 m's. bungie is a mar frogs of the world. ah, but they are not alone. they are backed by money. is there anything that i can do or that you can do or that every day citizens in general can do in response to this? can individual can select more anything about that? of course i'm black rock, for example, on isn't, you know, isn't on every corner like jp morgan chase is. but jack black rock invests in
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almost every company you can think of. so you could look at the companies that are, you are invested in, or you're, you know, your retirement fund is invested in and you can ensure that those companies are not tied to block route. you can ask your, your financial manager about that. also being mindful of where our other mean to interrupt of it. being mindful of where our investments are. i'm the relationship between our consumer choices and the companies that are leading the charge against deforestation that, that makes sense to me. louis, when i want to pivot for a moment, because for decades indigenous peoples from the amazon had been forced from their homes, a report details of genocide, torture, rape, and enslavement of indigenous tribes under brazil's military dictatorship. it's believe that some tribes were entirely wiped out. now to day they continue to face attacks, killings, land, theft, and violent territorial disputes with cattle ranchers and farmers is solving this problem something that can happen from, with in brazil or do we need international attention? well, international thanks. show using park. busy up,
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of course the decisions need to be made in brazil by brazil. we are talking about brazilian success, which that have the rights indigenous people have the top, the rights and our constitution. what's going on in brazil now is really about. busy our government, not respecting our constitution, the rights of our people, but who we have also day internationally space is to deal with culture. so as you said in the united nation, the some cards brazilian government isn't, it will be george it for watson the way and has done in the past. so we really need all these international i structures to function well and they don't function well unfortunately. so if there is a better function of our brazilian democracy in our president waterman internationally, it's not working as well. and we need all the things working well to really and defend and protect our indigenous groups formed is very, ah,
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bad interest that i know leading our government layla. amazon watch recently reported that the home of brazilian indigenous leader and human rights defender alessandra corrupt moon dooku, was invaded after she returned from this year's climate summit and glasgow. a record number of 227 environmental activists were reported killed last year. round the world with a 121 recorded, killed in brazil alone between 20172020. according to the watchdog group. will witness. what kind of response should we be seeing from the brazilian government? well, 1st and foremost, you know, unfortunately the brazilian government is one of the perpetrators of these attacks . and actually, you know, incentivizes land grabbing incentivizes attacks, threats and attacks on indigenous peoples who are protecting their lands. their rights are livelihoods, their territories, and are,
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are defending the constitution which guarantees their, their rights to free prior informed consent, their right to their territory. what's happening in brazil right now, you know, if you speak to any indigenous leader where whether it is august sometime do cool or sonya was not our, any of the, you know, the leaders from the indigenous movement or in local communities, they will say that they are facing an ethnic side, an eco side, and a genocide. that's what's happening in brazil right now. and i would be remiss to not mention the reason why are indigenous allies and indigenous peoples in brazil and across the amazon are saying. this is an ethnic side and this is an emergency. it's because of these threats and attacks directly on, on the rights lives and territories of indigenous peoples. but it's also because of
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the cobra crisis. the government allowed the covered 19 very to spread, which makes brazil now the 3rd most highest rate of coven, just in the world. well, louise is what we're seeing right now reversible. what would it take to bring the rain forest back? i, susan, possible. again, i think we need to be optimistic. what's needed. we need a strong coordination of coordination among federal, state, and municipal levels across ah, ministries across the justice, the congress and our legislative systems. we need to understand that all these strands, if we reverse it, they king, they may become opportunities, opportunities off, economic development for these local community, but also for many other interpret nurse. so we're needing centers to have
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a green economy to have a force economic not only for large companies, but also for very local can we? so it's is, it's complex, but it's such livable because we have hundreds of experiences on how so to take care of the forest to make money from the forest. we can reverse by 1st stopping the for a station by control of his conversation, polishing a crime, any legality, and building these very positive agenda offering st. this we have a lot of evidence bed stopping these predatory activities are necessary to protect the bio diverse, to the climate in the water and to promote welf for all layla. give you the last word you would. what can you add to that? what else is needed? to bring the rain forest back. so the amazon is life. if i leave you with anything i will, i would love for everyone to recognize that the amazon rain forest,
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by on the basin is life. and we still have time to turn around the tipping point. the amazon is at a tipping point of ecological collapse at this time, but we still have time if we, if we put all our energy and forces together to call for the permanent protection of the amazon rain forest and the recognition demarcation and titling of indigenous peoples lance and as you must, she pi ah, from the shingle region recently. so just at cop $26.00 on that it is about gathering funds and supporting indigenous peoples and investing in the protection of the amazon rain forest. but it's not just about money because money is actually one of the reasons why we're in this problem. it is also about basic respect for indigenous peoples for forest people. it's about respect for,
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for people and for our planet. and if we do that, then we can protect the reinforce and we can protect our climate for climate justice for all of us. layla, luis fernando. thank you both so much for joining me on upfront the are we eating our way to extinction? according to the united nations, the world will likely miss its target to limit rising global temperatures to 1.5 degrees celsius, which would result in more severe environmental disasters. even if we were to stop all fossil fuel emissions immediately, that goal would remain unattainable because of our food system, which is responsible for about a 3rd of all human cause, greenhouse gas emissions. some scientists say that avoiding meat and dairy is the single biggest way to reduce an individual's environmental impact on the planet as animal based food create about twice the emissions as plant based foods is changing our diets. the answer to lowering emissions and diminishing fresh water
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availability and what obstacle standing away? joining me have answer some of these questions is filmmaker kip anderson. he's a producer of 20 fourteen's cow spears. we and this years, the spirit he kept thank you for joining me on upfront. thank you for having me appreciate it. a recent headline by time magazine claimed cows are the new coal. of course, they were referring to methane emissions, which have a global warming potential of up to 80 times that of carbon dioxide over the short term. that sounds bad enough, but that's only part of the story. could you explain how animal agriculture also contributes to global warming? yeah, you have that issue with a methane, but the biggest issue is really land use. people have no idea to realize how much land is used to of to grow the corn and soil to feed livestock around up to 90 percent of corn and saw in the amazon. that's ground, all goes to feed livestock. and so it, all you're doing is you're clearing away all these incredible carbon sings which
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are trees, nature's best carbon sings trees and just destroying it. and, and so that the biggest issue is the land you said, all the forested land all around the world is getting destroyed. a recent report found that 20 livestock companies are responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than either germany, britain, or france. from 2015 to 2020 global meat and dairy companies received more than $478000000000.00 and backing. which the report says will lead to more meat production with government this invested in the industry. is there any way to curb emissions? it's very difficult. it's a long term partnership. so it's very difficult when you have such entrenched lobby groups. but the, but the thing is like with everything is just so you know, the people after united and the demand that we just really have to, to eliminate or reduce drastically these ridiculous subsidies. well, part of the challenge of resisting that, of course, is the lobbying, which you just talked about. what we know the livestock groups have been lobbying the un to support more meat and dairy production and
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u. s. meat and dairy companies at collectively to oppose climate based policies, which effectively would limit production know some regularly fine they publish, they promote research and content that minimize the link between exactly what you're talking about. animal agriculture and climate change, the distort the picture. and as a result, it advances their agenda in your view. how do you strategically and practically stop this level of lobbying? well, it's very difficult. i mean, the biggest thing is start the subsidies where, whereas the, you know, say, fast food, for example, a big mac costs around $2.00 to $3.00 without subsidies as be around 12 or $13.00. so if we're eliminating these subsidies, people will be li, eating less of these horrible food, specially red meat as we well now as a bad for the health overall. huh. what is the rule is for a 2nd because this is an interesting proposition, right? you're saying we stop the subsidies which effectively prices everyday working people, poor people out of the fast food or bad food market. they now the $12.00 big mack
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is out of their reach. were effectively forcing their hands to eat better in your estimation. but isn't it possible though the people who are already food insecure would not eat better food? they would just eat different bad food, they would eat whatever is accessible to them and we'd be taking away one other option from them. and that's at least one counter argument that people would make yes or a lot of as it's education, you know, and we have in one of our films, what the health we show is called plant based on a budget where you can eat up to a week for a family of 4 for only $25.00. if you're getting bulk a bulk of beans and rice and vegetables from of, from a large produce place, you can eat very cheaply. so it's a misnomer that you'd, that it's expensive to plant base, is actually quite a lot cheaper. studies estimate that it takes about $18000.00 leaders of water to produce a kilogram of beef. and about $25.00 leaders for a single burger. but by comparison,
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an 8 minute shower uses up about 76 liters of water in terms of personal efforts with regard to water conservation. are we doing this the right way? that's the thing is in cal spirit. so we have a great in the film starts out with as a wen went one the equivalent to being one hamburgers equivalent, showering for around 2 months. so it's just the most absolute inefficient system you could possibly devise. so we just have to cut that middleman out and eat these healthy whole food plant based things that our body was intended to. a majority, if not completely according to the you and the largest share of the world's a water consumption, it's about 69 percent. is from animal agriculture. documents released by wiki league show that as far back as 2019 nestle was warning u. s. officials that the world was on track to run out of fresh water by the year 2050 in part, due to growing meet consumption. now the o e c, the estimates the by the end of this year,
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the u. s. could consume over 33000000000 kilograms of meat products. when you consider the global impact of eating meat or water supply. should we be talking about this in terms of policy is that is the individual dietary decision conversation almost beside the point. yes, we hear about climate wars and climate change all the time. but what we really have to talk about too is, is imagine if water goes out, we're going to have water wars and that is extreme. we can't live without water within 2448 hours, climate change. this gradual thing that we can have these technologies that we can combat them, but we won't run out of fresh water. now we're talking about serious, serious atrocity that that is so scared even talk about the water wars and water change in the the water shortage is a very, very urgent. and again, it all comes back to ya, our choice of eating animals raising, killing animals. so if we want to line ourselves with these missions, the 1st thing we have to do is look in the man. so what can i do? while the 1st saying i can stop eating animals,
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the eating of animals has been framed as an ethical and moral issue from people who talk about the value and sanctity of the animal's life. in the harm comes the animal. oh, when it is killed, ah, or, or prepared raise for, for killing even. but you seem to be also raising an unethical and moral issue around eating animals because of the environmental impact. is that a political message that would be effective in terms of getting people to stop eating animals? yeah, that's interesting thing about eating animals raising, killing animals. it, it goes on so many different levels. one is we notes, but thousands of studies. it's not good for your health eating a lot of meat and dairy and then you also this environmental impact. but then you also have an emotional as a social spiritual impact, the something that are aligned with your ethics. you know, when you look at a year old kid, they would never, they would never kill an animal and want to eat it if they know what they're eating, they wouldn't want to kill it. so it's also, there's domino effect of when you line your ethics with what you're doing in all
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respect with to the environment. and also it's how we treat others. that trickle effects of how we treat animals. trickle effects also dominoes into how do we treat each others as human beings. so it's the golden rule. and that golden rule needs to apply and extend to not just humans but to animals. and i think that's the biggest thing that's been missing and that will just be radical transformation for everything from social justice issues to environmental issues. the un reported that a 10th of the world's population was undernourished in 2020. at the same time, a significant amount of the crafts that are consumed are fit to animals and not people. for example, only 6 percent of soybeans are fed. the people was 70 to 75 percent end up in animal feed, our crops going to animals to feed people in wealthy countries at the expense of starving people in poor nations. yeah, there's a study done that if everyone went vegetarian and one of the and there's enough food to feed around 14 plus $14000000000.00 people, almost twice,
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nearly twice as many people people talk about. we have these population control issues. but as far as food can feed around 14000000000 people, but the way we're consuming mean, dairy, we need 3 to 4 more planets. that's how much land use and water use it's. it's needed to, to consume the amount of meat and dairy. so just by eliminating this me, dairy, we're gonna, we able to feed the entire planet, you know, 2 times over when done in the right way. it is a practical matter. is there any way to save the planet without the overwhelming majority of people becoming begun? there, i mean, it sounds pretty say, but there's really not, i mean, you can do anything like you mentioned at the beginning do everything we can with is saying it, no one drove cars and everyone had everything was solar panel. we did nothing that we still have it forested land, especially around the rain forest, completely destroyed. and why culture? our water is depleted, raising just a few animals cows,
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pigs and chickens take up the majority of everything. so just becoming this whole globe lamb, this is being depleted of its source is being sock drive because we're e feeding, killing, 70000000000 animals for food, and trillions of animals for fish that you've seen. see, spirit, see. and that's the most important thing we're talking about climate change. we have to talk about the ocean because that's where the biggest carbon sink is from, is for these kept forests. and we're clearing those out at an astonishing rate. and that's a massive reason for climate change. i keep anderson. thank you so much for joining me on up front. everybody. that is our show and that's it for the season of upfront . thank you for watching up front will be back in the new year. ah
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