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has been lit up in the occupied westbank city of bethlehem, where christians believe jesus was born the faithful gathered outside the church of nativity, hoping covered 19 doesn't ruin another holiday season. bethlehem was over close last christmas. ah, let's take you through some of the headlines here now just here and now a volcanic eruption in indonesia, the most populated island is killed at least 13 people. thousands of people fly their villages and are in evacuation centers off the lava mixed with rain submerged houses. experts say it's unclear how warnings of interruption could have been. this marrow mountain is located in one of the most eventually populated areas. it's been, it's always a closely monitored by our local knowledge office. and they know that every time we
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have to be rainy season, some sort of what they sometimes call secondary interruption, heflin. so they should have been able to get warning or people. but from the interview dealing to many as to why would they seem to be caught by sure, bryce. so this is still a question that has to be answered. indian officials say 13 civilians have been mistakenly killed during a military operation. it happened in the northeastern states of nag land. the army is reported to have shot at the trunk, carrying dozens of people troops. then later, 5 of the crowd that gathered to protest against the truck attack. one soldier was also killed, boat counting on the way in the gambia, off the sand. today's high turn out in the presidential election. it's the 1st election since formerly, the job was ousted from power. president obama barrow is seeking re election
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despite the promise to step down off the 3 years talks between the us president joe biden and russian president vladimir putin have been confirmed for tuesday. they'll take part in the video call. the thousands of russian troops gather new ukraine's border. us and ukrainian official se intelligence suggest that an invasion or attack is possible in the coming weeks. kremlin has repeatedly dismissed those concerns though, the south african government is working to scale our code with 19 vaccinations. the new army kron variance is driving another wave of infection. it's inside story now . talk to al jazeera. we ask, how would you describe taliban relationship with the us? we listen copied. my kid is not all 4 of 19 has been terrible demonstration of the failure of human. so we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories
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that matter on al jazeera cad. right wing parties in europe, field a united front populous leaders, meat and poland. to discuss the continent future, but how much impact do they have in european politics? this is inside story. ah. hello, welcome to the program. i'm kim vanelle. the leaders of 14 european right wing parties are at a conference in poland. among the nationalist and populist issues up for discussion is the building of an alternative center of power in the european union. and it's aimed at opposing the you on issues like migration, national sovereignty as well as lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender writes. with the lead,
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his face and number of challenges caused by bare differences, some view each other as to pro russian, while others are fine with moscow's influence. and some have opposing views on even the main issues including asylum seekers, which countries should host refugees. and how many, despite that, once claire is they all want more influence in european politics, me was that she was timid and very optimistic about the coming together of this logic. i think what has happened to poland is blackmail and threat from the european union. paul and resistance once again would show everyone that's only in the union that would succeed in making european union bend in the most harmful way . i'll begin discussion in just a moment, but 1st let's take a look at some of europe's main foreign parties in france. marina pen presides over the national rally. the parties made headlines mostly for one critic say it's it's hard stones against is arm and french muslim identity and poland,
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sierra schwab. kazinsky leads the ruling nationalist populace law and justice policy, which is often adults with european union policies. if lead legal party is said by matthew salvi, he has reputation for a hard lines down for migration, for wanting to renegotiate you laws on asylum seekers with the aim of deporting thousands of them. the for dish political party hungry is said by prime minister the or bomb he presents himself as a defender of europe, against muslim migrants. he's also at the center of the bid tonight, europe's radical bride parties. ah, ok, let's bring in. i guess we have fabrics on the ben sca who is an expert at waffle institute. she joined us from pullman's capital from brussels in belgium. kyle, the new chief executive officer at the center for european policy studies. and from vienna college nits, a journalist at the austrian daily newspaper, their standards,
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a very warm welcome to all. thanks for joining us here on inside story. i'd like to begin with alexandra, been sca. do you think that these right wing parties who are leasing in war so can really build a united block one of the challenges that they might face? well then they say some whole series of challenges. the 1st one is not all in saying are political group in the parliament just letting them know italian and i see. so the discussion growing new group should be should be holding some of those. and then i did join. let me just convention the 2nd question of
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russia. we don't ever need to be pro russian. they go russian, they see most dictated by our history by experience. we're russia, been russia and seen by the central brett. so there are many of those parties like pro russian, and this is also appointment cont inch. so just quickly, before we move on, then do you think there's any point in the meeting at all? do you think they'll be able to form a blog? well, i don't know if the aim of this meeting is really i believe that it may be a continuation of place in july joint examination. or when
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she puts out this time also there will be ration the subject meeting in european reform policy. you of a nation and this is something they certainly agree on that also many sticking one and i've seen they will concentrate, i expect some sort of proposal for this kind of before. they will also debate about how to talk to the competency outside of that she seek trigger, bending the g, i think will be a generation of this subject. ok, thank you. thank you. i think there's going to be a declaration, not necessarily a, you know, i should block. as a result, i want to come to, you gotta learn who you don't take the meeting very seriously as whole. why is that? i did do some serious this only on i think that have been many attempts and off
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like this by the writing or extreme writing. groups of parliament was for one block, but so far they have not succeeded. one of the main reasons why they're doing this is because the partner audubon, which was before particle e p p which is basically the center conservative group and european parliament was pushed out of the e p. p. and it's now looking for a new home, and of course it has been shown kind of cor, ping of the or say so my groups have tried like for example, social media try to join him at the former. i think part of it. but all of these attempts have failed to a party, basically have still groups to group each for each of them about 10 percent. so together, let's say the right $316.00, right? 20 to 25 percent and you know the bottom. but amongst them they are so divided the difference and orientation that extremely difficult to believe that a common, a common voice if you see, for example, in what's happening and frowns at the moment. we thought, let's say that
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a year ago that's probably been would again be marianna, been again, be serious challenges too much at all. but we know she, that the extreme right in front of the split and 2 groups and they move me over to may overtake the ben and the, and the presidential elections next year. so we see that the extreme split i think, which is the biggest threat and you know, for the extreme like which we have because initially because of the dr. government be ignored, has been pushed a bit to decide. we also see that it's not homeless coming to the meeting and marshal this weekend, which is also, i think, a very important sign. i think the biggest problem is essentially what is going on and problems. and then we see that decks, right? is this also if you look at the germany elections in september b, i did. yup. and you put us on that all the extra groups do not post that anymore and germany. so i think it's an attempt to prose both the boys, but the previous speaker said there's this issue about rush,
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how different stations we know for sure that the park for money on nathan got subsidies got support from russia and something like this in on its own okay, and i to bring you in, call it schmitt. we've talked a lot then about the differences between all of these parties meeting and was, or something that they have said previously when they signed that declaration of basically saying they're on the same page was that they want to fight for family values. i mean, but that could look very different to different parties into different countries, couldn't i totally agree to what you said about what is going on in france. i mean that's one of the, i think very important points that. # maybe once a point, if she tries to reunite or unite the far right because at home, it's not really going well for her. what really unites all these groups is, are most of them that it's not, they have all seen better days and they really are not on the right right now in
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their home countries. so this is one point and family values as you call them, are really a problem that they have with human rights. i'll be right. you can see that in hungary and there are they really are in trouble because of this within the you. so this is probably the problem, one of the reasons why whole them and we are now sticking together because here also you have the problem that hold and is very active russian and. 9 apparently not at all. so this is probably one of the main reason they are not getting all the funds of the you right now and have problems there. alex found the reading sca, let's put that to you. do you agree with the sentiment that the right wing popularity across the board is, is on the decline across europe. said john,
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are a little just governing and old. i mean humbly. and we don't know because, you know, but i want to say it is university. she's not like the the case and i do believe the presidential race nor to she would be based on to immigration more than it was present in the face before her in this presidential leis, necessarily. so he can the chances of that to happen. so i think the right is maybe not new to me and i was about to take over. you have to say it is still then the hope was going
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to disappear. one they happen. so it is gaining momentum, sweden so well in the box. so we will see what's going to happen the next couple of months and years with me need a common blog, corporate, any issues when they re, re, re, i'm forming catalano, do you agree with the previous speakers? a fair in terms of the impact, the power, the popularity of right wing parties in european politics right now to some degree . but some, i would add to that. what brings them together is that hateful europe, but they have no alternative meaning. it's very funny. they are, they don't like all of them. europe and they come together to express this would be
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and look at the character of these different parties. they are so different already on this fundamental thing, which you said, we just family values. they will have totally different views, for example, all the church on, for example, issues like abortion, which is a big issue or some of the parties, but not for others. or, or for example, the society, other side where you see that it's extremely difficult to unite them. and they have been fine if you compared to other political groups and you will be parliament, which also have this issue or try to a common block. they have much more advanced like, you know, people's party or the socialist and democrats, or 70 degrees, or the liberals, you know, more much more united in the political, the political id. they stand for than the extreme right, which has totally different orientation. so again, i would say i do not, i'm not too concerned to say that they can do much against. of course, it's a pity,
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i personally find that there are so many in the parliament and they get paid by all of us. but that's what we haven't in the democracy and have you see what happens again, and the german elections is december and medical come to this. she has managed again to marginalize the amc. we extreme and i didn't, and germany, germany has a special because of just re, a special connotation, red extreme right. but we see that i'm not too concerned about not apart from problems. and as i said, i see the good thing which is happening now. apparently, they are splintered amongst themselves an event which i think has challenged real port patton sort of the, the a, i mean has been a 2nd. thank you for kind of trans, nevermind, it's so quant smith, i definitely, i just wanna pass over to call at college netflix. i can see you nodding your head there talking. your mike was all but was there something you want to add to? well, in france you can see what you can, you can really watch and
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a lot of countries in europe look, pen started moving to the middle because she was too far right. 9 too far, right to get voted into a powerful position. and now of course there's a new man with any more was really very far right again. and this will go on like this because they get divide that in the end. and if they don't unite, it will be hard for them to gain power. i think so. but however, what i wanted to say is that it's paradox. but these right wing or even right, comparative parties are all nationalists. and that doesn't fit very well into the idea of the european union. so even if they try again and again tonight, it won't, you know, on the long run work. because they, they really don't think international. read your, understand what i mean. i want to put that same fan to the same sentiment to alexander rabinski. i guess what we're trying to say is what's being suggested
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there is that these parties who believe an essential tenant for many of them is a national sovereignty. then looking to build an international united front might seem to some like an inherent contradiction. what do you think? i don't think it is necessarily contradiction right now. not have a super national nubian see. we have mentioned and right now, nation the only he for the markers neither using commission is elected. so have little democratic lives in greater demo graphic leverage and envision life is a fact. the 2nd thing is, i don't think you what they want is to be for europe. we all of the european union, and we all have to somehow think about what kind of union we want. now we have said, well, this was we'll say,
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and then we had the meeting today and also who was your nation, which was actually the initial idea that it was supposed to be a nation. and it has developed and more and more designed to ration. not everybody was that and i think those right to discuss then vision if you me and they hate you, they want to change it. they don't want to abolish that is a totally different thing and i think it is really that many assumptions are made about like on the lawn just in the us. not us 70. and all we do not really have us is a range party that don't really matter on the political. ok, carol, i know i want to put that to you but advance that a little bit in that often. one thing is born of the other right,
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right wing populism. that perhaps a reaction to its opposite. what is it that you think these parties are rebelling against? and even if you don't agree with the form that rebellion might be taking, could it because for some soul searching within the you? if i listen to the patient speak, i would say i would totally disagree with you because human was in favor of a form of united nations over the united states of europe like receipt and the united states of america, which is a federal states. but clearly federal competence is not, and that's what we want to do with bombs defense and certainly must be extreme right. or is very right in groups and european barn and group on. they basically want to go back to what we have achieved. for example, i remember very well that interview between and my job and my role for the 2nd round, about 4 and a half years ago, there arguing and then wanted to abolish the europe wants to go back. and the girl
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was asking her to say, but what you're doing and she hardly knew, and she felt basically through this argumentation, she knocked her chances on that to be to be elected. i mean, that's what the group wants to go back from these commitments and to strengthen the nation state or federal undermine report of justice and european court of justice is basically the ard with the if there are issues. but we don't degree have madison, which is the ultimate part of the modem, which we know you, for example, also for the attribution of the funds would be great. and the next you, an on what's from the finality would be enforced by the european commission to get these funds reach. for example, there's an issue for all of us, but this is all part of a federal construction. this is not only the construction of the united nations of europe, we have make a long wait 3040 years of integrating and strengthening super national competence. it's within the u. i would also look at the mission is probably not directly
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elected, but you could go broad, but you would be part of them and you'll be barbara exotic. ok, the bottom is not highly apartments as we know nationally, but already has money to do that. what i hear is that i have some disagreement about what it is that these right wing parties want, in terms of the future of europe. their visions, i want to come to, you call it schmidt, about some of the factors that are at play here, the context in which this is all happening. what do you think that the migrant crisis has done not just on poland border with van roofs, but across the e you? what do you think it has done for these sort of nationalist populace parties? you know, while the, you may not agree with when many of these parties are leaders or even nations, it is open to discussing, for example, you financing or physical border infrastructure. so what do you think that has done to this whole discussion? well, it has served the right wing parties around the european union. well,
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of course the crisis and especially 2015 because especially in countries that took in a lot of refugees, they could really gain power like austria and germany as you know. and we even have the freedom party in our government for 2 years. and we know the end of that story with a video, but this was really helping them to rise. now we have another crisis apart from my friends levels and paul, and we have a car on over the you. and i think if you look at the recent electrons, it just germany, for instance, maybe the corona virus, and demi traces was more topics to a lot of voters and migrants. i think so. but of course, this crisis really divided the you because actually we could not find a way to, to share responsibility for refugees all over and to
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the same amount in every country. and i remember i sent it in scott, you say that the idea of building a united front, a grouping of parties with the same aims? it's not new. so why is it that it's advancing? now? do you think it is her being brought up? now by, especially with on just meeting because of the dispute on the law that we c p and commission. now why am obviously is seen as a good occasion to show that they do have to port one of the main subject of discussions or doing this meeting is effectively limiting on the competence of the institution. so from the point of
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view, government, which is has been confirmed by ruling leaving institutions only possess that have been allocated industry by the members. and so the teen commission, that is a criticizing the justice forms, it is acting outside of the cheese, outside the home. and this is not acceptable, so there's a number of political forces on the right side of the year. and then see this in a similar way. and i think this is one of the reasons for this conference. but i want to also say something to what has been said before about the rag and would really like to stress the prices of those is not like it is a geological crisis. no natural migrant who believes loose is a dictate. and i don't know of any people wanting to move there,
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go through this is a country where people flee from and not go to and no natural migration, not official prices created by it's on the question. and as soon as he stops taking the plains in the migrant, it will be no my blow any more, i can tell it, shaking it, sorry, nodding their heads in agreement with you. we've got less than 60 seconds now until we enter the program. i'd like to add very quickly with you cut out la new o, how do you see the trajectory right now in terms of the future of the far right. i mean, we're going to need to have a fine right in europe, but that also will depend on the circumstances i'm whole revealed with all these different prices which we have. but if you see how well because of the house crisis on hotels, you were in a domain because your competence helps. but you basically manage to order fractions for all of you. and i think we are basically ahead of the rest of the growth and the baby control and just help christ. of course, we still have
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a lot of problems and many states, but you have to be active and you only need to remember what happened in february march, when it was unsure whether we will get there. and then on the last test, people have so many percent 60 or 70 percent of the relation budgeted by july between managed again and a domain which is not that you and very you see by the way she's saying all the energy and demand pro member states to get an area which is nothing, you are competent energy supply to have more european. that's just to jointly order got to join the order. i mean i, for example, to just control the prices and to make sure that we have much more leverage on for temper russia, which is supplying them. ok. all right, my apologies. have to leave it very big. thank you to all of our guests for joining us, alexander. we been sca cuddle le new and scarlet schmidt, and thank you for watching. you can see the program again anytime by visiting our website, algebra dot com. and to further discussion, go to facebook page. that's facebook dot com,
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