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would be able to deliver on this promise and work together, a sudanese until the state of theater, a handed over to me elected government. i think we've exhausted nearly 3 years wasting much time in if it, if there were directed to productivity. our situation would have definitely been different by now, 3 years of blocking roads. crippling protests and political fallacies would fail to deliver on the promise change or the desired transition. we failed to fulfill the people's wishes or dreams for justice. so up the u. n. is wanting, the number of people on the edge of famine has risen to 45000000 around the world. about half of those address going off in afghanistan, which is facing its worst food crisis, says records began the head of the world food program toward our dra 0. the situation will only get worse. over the next 6 months. a rebel group is reported to be taking control of villages in north caves and eastern democratic republic of congo. the m $23.00 group is said to be less than 10 kilometers away from when
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a gonna on the border with uganda. hundreds of people crossing over to avoid violence. 6, palestinian rides groups recently designated as terrorist organizations by israel say at least 5 activists have had their phones hacked. they say israeli authorities use the spyware to pegasus for more than a year. president, she jane paying and hundreds of top officials of china's communist party or attending a major leadership meeting in beijing talks will lay the groundwork for the 2022 congress where she will seek a 3rd time and the u. s. is offered to help iraqi authorities investigating the assassination attempt on a country's prime minister. armed drones targeted must have academies residence in the highly secured green zone. in the eyes of sunday, he escaped the attack on harmed. knows the headlines coming up next on al jazeera aids inside story. good bye. ah.
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we are tired of their blah, blah, blah. i lead us another leading less talk more action people around the world demand progress that the cop 26 climate conference in glasgow science. i say the pleasures so far don't go far enough. so what's needed to make that change. this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm rob matheson, the cop $26.00 climate conference in glasgow is at it's halfway point. world leaders have spent the past week debating ways to cut carbon emissions and limit
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a global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees celsius. but many environmental as say, they're disappointed so far. i wrote, as there was held what they called a global day of action on saturday. hundreds of thousands of people. valley new cities including london, sol, nairobi, and sydney, the largest was in central glasgow demonstrators. many of them young people demanded immediate action from governments in ohio, but the lawyer was yes, i'm angry. we've been saying this for years. i knew the point of no return, but governments and just not listening. many schools i being destroyed because of extreme weather events. i need someone to tell me how to explain to families who are losing their clubs and some jobs and flags that seem to never hangs at her head on the day. didn't do enough for playmates this week at the club,
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26. and it's very scandalous for us because it's a crime against humanity to do and to do nothing against their this section of life on earth. and so to put him on good addict, exactly. i want my children to live on a beautiful planet in the future. not only my children, but all the children, the trees, the birds plants, and all the people. i think we have to leave a beautiful planet. i think we owe that to our children and the planet. well, here's what's been pledged at the summit, up to no more than a 100 countries of greed to end deforestation and land degradation by 2030. 25 nations, signed up to stop spending money on foreign fossil fuel projects by next year. and several governments are promised to phase out the use of coal in the coming 10 years for rich nations. and in 2 decades for developing countries. they also said they've cut methane gas emissions by at least 30 per cents. but rich nations will
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have to pay more to help poor ones, tackle the climate crisis, some wealthy government so close to contribute towards a $100000000000.00 fund set up for the developing world. ah. okay, let's bring in our guests in glasgow. david embargoes call me. he's a climate activist and a medical doctor in sterling, also in scotland. mark rascal, member of the scottish parliament and the scottish green parties spokesperson on climate and the environment. and in mulatto mozambique ditty, but now got international climate justice and energy program coordinator at friends of the earth international. welcome to the program mark, i'm going to stop with you. where are people confident? at any stage that politicians at cop $26.00, we're actually going to be able to put together something that in practical terms was going to work. i don't think the confidence has been there. no, and i think probably quite a lot of the blame for that has to come the do of the u. k. presidency. i don't
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think we've seen the kind of intensity of diplomatic effort that we saw before the power, se, agreement 6 years ago where the french state had hundreds and hundreds of bilateral meetings and multi lateral meetings with parties ahead of that, that critical cop summit which deliver the parents agreement, now that you take, i will say that there are reasons for that. mccovie crisis being one of those, but of course caught was delayed for a year. so, you know, there is concerned that despite the commitments we've seen this week, this isn't going to match up. and i think, you know, the analysis from week one is already showing the commitments that parties are already made. only amounts to about 40 percent of the cuts of emissions that we're going to need to make desperately in the next 10 years to keep the world safe within 1.5 degrees of global heating. so we're, we're, we're not there yet. it feels that this is coming very late on and clearly the
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world it started decades ago. we wouldn't be having this scrabble at the moment to try and make commitments that are actually going to deliver us and deliver what the science demands that we deliver duty. we're the colony house phase, a thing global act, local. how much do political promises actually matter when it comes to tackling the results of climate change? the political promises do matter because it's what the countries are putting on the table because the climate crisis is really so inherently unjust to defect those, the most that have done the leads to created. so we need that leadership, we need those promises coming, especially from the rich countries who have done so much to create this crisis. but at the same time, we see that this is all hi, what's been coming out of the car this week. it's so much about christie, so much hype the forest agreement, the fossil fuel agreement, there are so many loopholes and caveats, and all of those that it really does. it really does feel like, you know,
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what we say is that people power and what's actually going to drive this transition and going to bring justice. it's important for us to hold our leaders to account because we're the ones who elected them. they need to be responsible to us, the people, not the polluters. at the same time. we know that it's people all across the world . 150000. that much didn't law school yesterday. all of those that much all across the world. that to going to really bring this, this transformation that we need, the aid that is talking about those protest we saw in glasgow. we mentioned before that many of the people who processing were young people. now we often talk about young people put in climate change as a priority, but on we specifically talking about young people in rich countries. one would imagine the younger people in poor countries don't really have the option or perhaps even the ability or even the, the intention to deal with climate change because their needs are so much more of a priority to them. yeah,
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absolutely. that's the right and it is got to say that for me is that while the events where i have seen the less i'm on the diversity ever, unfortunately lack of participation and the attend and sales people from low middle income countries reflect from the discussions that we're having, i do feel like the type of discussion about that i have here in the past few days are mostly related to high income countries. talking about solutions that might work in countries where there is more resources. for sure. there's more of the patient already in place, but night might not be feasible in settings, are still facing issue such as might they're not mortality children, nutrition being an issue. so that's still a complicated matter. i feel we have heard that these are the most exclusive got ever. i definitely agree. and these are unfortunately because we are here to make
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money to make progress. and we need to have the people who are facing the consequences of climate change. the part of the discussion here, they should be the ones where explaining why be what the issue is. they should be the ones explaining what are the solutions that are feasible right now, but he's not happen unfortunately. did how much of a problem do you think it is that people who are often discussing climate change? certainly those with the highest profile, discussing climate change, a very often the ones least likely to see the impact that it actually has when we talk about rivers and sees drawing up an animal is dying. this is a real crisis because we really need to hear from the frontline communities, indigenous peoples, local communities who are, whose bodies are on the front line of this crisis. and it's not just this crisis, right. the climate crisis is not separated from so many other crises that people are facing an energy crisis. how many people across the globe, 800000000 do not have access to electricity?
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biodiversity crises. so people who are on the front lines of these crisis really must be the ones that we hear from and your question today, it was really beautiful because there are so many youth also in our southern countries. it is difficult to be an activist in many of our countries because livelihood, and so bible sometimes take priority, but we forget. but there are you and so many vulnerable communities in the frontline communities that are facing goal and gas extraction. and these, these youth are also fighting back we see this year, and most of them be my organization. just this on be on thought, which is friends of the muslim be, is working with you and impacted communities still be able to raise their voices because it's absolutely critical that the leaders hear from people who are most impacted by these crises. not one of the phrases that is used more often these days is climate fatigue. of course, now, are we seeing a fatigue with the discussions around climate change, or are we seeing fatigue way for some see,
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is the empty promises being made by corporations and by politicians? i mean, i don't think we're seeing fatigue with the debate. i mean, at all levels the society around the world, you know, climate change, the impacts of climate change being discussed. you know, i spent a good few days and run to court going schools in scotland and listening to the amazing ideas that young people having, you know, even at 89 year olds are coming out with in relation to how we can make easy changes to tackle climate change, so i think the important thing is that we listen to those voices and what i'm seeing around glasgow at the moment and around the world is a lot of innovation. a lot of citizens assemblies coming together, sometimes sponsored by government to actually work out, you know, the best way to cut emissions. the best way to adapt to the climate change is coming. and i think the critical thing here in our, is for governments beyond these 2 weeks in glasgow to listen to their citizens. listen to some of the challenges that people are facing at the moment in terms of
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adapting to climate change, but also listen to their thoughts around how we can put in place solutions. and you know, we've had a good debate here in scotland around free bus travel, for example, for young people is something that young people being telling us directly that they won't see to live it. so they can cut climate missions but also give them the opportunities for education at work which, which otherwise they would struggle with. that's something that, you know, greens and government are delivering here. but we need, we need a much deeper dialogue with citizens around the world about the impacts about how we get that to them, but also listen to the solutions. i think my most inspiring things i've heard this week has been the contribution of indigenous leaders around the world to have a very different way of thinking. but they can also come up with the solutions as well. wish and not just for the here and now, but for multiple generations to carmen. given the indigenous people that lands cover about 80 percent of the worlds by diversity. if we don't listen to indigenous
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leaders, we're not going to find the solutions to tackle both the climate and the nature emergencies. you've been years obviously there. where do you think the breakdown happens between politicians, between corporations and the grassroots, is aware sources of information like the indigenous people you are talking about who are able to provide this kind of information? what, what's, why is that line broken? why is that link not working? we need new ways of engaging with systems around the world. i think that's why some of the climate citizen assemblies that have been working around the world been very successful. the one in france for example, recommended to that government that they should be curbing and restricting the growth of domestic flights and the government. listen to that and they, and they, they took action. but i think of course, as an elephant in the room here in glasgow and, and it's the corporations, it's those vested interests that need legally 2 piece are shareholders. and of course, are working behind the scenes to come up with false solutions that they want to see
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governments push. and although i've not seen a stance from oil and gas corporations inside caught this week, it's very clear their agenda is written through a lot of the energy strategies and climate strategies of all the governments that we see and, and as an attendance. so you know that there is a, there is another dialogue here which is with those powerful corporations that clearly want to resist change. some of them, of course, are prepared to move fast enough and d carbonized, but others have got assets. so they want to hang on to and they want to keep extracting on gas until every single last drop is, is gone. do you think that seeing for what of a better phase superstar climate change activists like growth, fund blog, and others? of course, does that inspire people or do you think that, that intimidates people that perhaps on an individual basis, they feel that they can't do anything. and because the only way to get anything done is to have that kind of platform. i definitely think that is inspiring to see
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young people leading the climate change movement right now. but, but the thing that is also reflect that the climate change. you see that there is an issue of injustice. i can that climate change is they be getting their genetics non injustice ever seeing. and they require for young people and i don't listen to actually like a said bob on going to the street. they're going to school strikes. he's a huge indicator of how bad the situation is right now. how much, how much everything, how much action is needed to take place immediately. unfortunately, i have seen that representation matters. and we should be also, as i said before, including faces from the global house who are also doing amazing work at the local and regional level in terms of be kind of what james activities working with throughout the safe or stations. and we have making some progress that he's for sure. i mean, for example, one is on that. that was also part of the,
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of the different. it's tried in this couple of base has been doing an amazing work as well. but we can definitely do better in terms of meeting invoices from the global saudis to the climate change movement and raising the voice of well did see let's talk more about the messaging because the media uses was like crisis and catastrophe. disaster and fight. when it comes to tackling climate change, how much do you think that has an impact on the way that people respond to climate change? that's a great question because what we are seeing is a trotting out of this field. narrative is despair and desperation narrative. and that is very disempowering, so we actually as climate activists, we fight against. ready that because we talk about what mark was saying, but there are communities that are making real change right now on the ground and they've been doing it for a long time. there are communities who are running renewable energy cooperative.
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there are communities who are taking food production into their hands and doing that in a good way of stopping deforestation. you know that there are communities fighting for gender justice and about the valuing of care work. so all of this is happening and, and we know that that is what we need to be supporting. and i also wanted to respond to your question to the event. if you don't mind the issue of the lead of the personality, i think it's very inspiring that vanessa and grant are up there. and speaking, we need to have so many more of those wonderful young women and men standing up and talking about the need for 4 people power. we need so many more people to be joining this conversation. and it is very inspiring to see a few people you know, to be able to, to see how they get traction in this way. but at the same time, we need to be recognizing the beauty and value of, of what each person brings into the fight. because it's going to take all of us to have this transformation. it system change that we're trying to bring about. it is
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really big and it seems daunting for sort of you know, all of this seems really daunting, but we just can't give into that feel narrative. it's meant to divide us. we need to be really talking the things that you might us, but that the beauty that's in the world, the work that's already happening on the ground and. and again, going back to the of the issue of the franklin community. those are the voices that we need to be hearing and lifting up because that is what we should be valuing bar . how easy do you think it would be to turn the messaging around and why hasn't it happened before? i mean, i would agree to see that there's, there are intrinsically positive things happening around the world and i think it, you know, and now in multimedia rage, you know, you only have to go on your phone on twisted social media platforms, youtube and you can find most incredible stories, i think the key thing is to now amplify those voices, and i think the government's to help to empower citizens as well. so one thing that
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we've had in scotland for a while is that climate challenge funds where community groups can bid into this fund, and they can do all sorts of amazing things that can help people in fuel, poverty with energy efficiency work, or they can set up a bicycle recycling initiative or production or whatever, and i think it's for governments to really empower people. i think in terms of narrative there's, you know, that there's, obviously we've seen the most devastating images this year, particularly floods in germany, wildfire the arctic as well. and i think that there is an element of fear there, but i think, you know, while we accept that, we need to very quickly move on and recognize to actually in adapting to climate change. and in tackling our missions we can make the world farrah and a better place. and, you know, we live in remarkable times is incredible amounts of innovation happening everywhere in society at the moment. and is the opportunity to make our lives much better and much farrah as a result, but there will be some battles along the way. and you know what i see yesterday and
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the streets in glasgow was resigned. but i also saw a lot of hope and a lot of credibility from people was knowledge about how to tackle lease this climate crisis and how to come out of it with a better society. that's focus much more in our well being and human values rather than just endless economic rugs debate. do you think it be more effective if we stop saying we're trying to solve the climate crisis and started talking about managing climate change? because solving the climate crisis right now seems like an enormous and almost impossible task. managing it and dealing with it sounds a little bit easier. yeah, i can. the messaging definitely needs to change. unfortunately, i do think that held is not included in the, in the climate change the scores right now as much as should be because climate change is i hope christ is actually, i mean, so you might think if we start to start treating climate change the same way that
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we treat, call me, for example, that's something that is affecting the entire world. and it's something that is just killing us every day. i mean, air pollution is basically killing us lowly every day and it's getting worse. so that means for example, children and other lessons are actually being receiving more pollution every day and getting worse, it will affect them more as well. so i different is that the message needs to change. extreme weather events are still also increasing. who will cause people to die and not on the, i mean, if we say there's also some from in the order consequences to these extreme, what are the bands, for example, defects on education that it was mentioned before as well in my day, how many schools will be close to what are the bands or how would we all seem create a cation and how the case, and he's also need the gender inequality and so many other consequences. so i do think that the messages messaging needs to change the treating climate change,
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the climate change crisis of the health crisis begin with, and also start discussing what can we do now immediately because you know, we can say a lot of things that will be happening by 2030 or 20402050. but we need the actions that are taking the going to take place right now that are and that actually are the symbols, the star with the p. i know you want to come in there. what would you like to say when we talk about saving the time adul saving the planet? it seems really daunting. i think we should be talking about for everyone to have a life of dignity. that's what's important. every single person on this planet. we talk about energy efficiency, you know, this should be enough for everyone, but not abuse by some i think that's what we need to be talking about. you know, these numbers that they talk about 1.5 degrees, 2 degrees. those unlike that with that, that it really means, you know, when we say all we can, we can keep it to 1.5, but maybe we'll keep the global temperature rise under 2 degrees. what we're effectively saying is that so many people will die. we're willing for them to die
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because we're not, you know, we're not willing to hold the line. we need to be talking. we need to be talking about how we can have lives of dignity for everyone on this planet that everyone has the basics of transport. what, what mark was talking about, you know, transport in scotland so that everyone can have energy and food and, and transportation communication, the basics that people need and that they have enough. i think that's what the conversation really needs to be about. this isn't something in the future, this is about so many investors that are taking place now and have been happening for the last 500 years. and when we put that in context, we realize that we need to be supporting everyone to have a better life. those who do not have it at the moment and those who are in excess to look at the fact that that's not necessary. we don't actually need to have people with so much excess that we should be looking at at everyone to have a good life. you know what, what in southern africa,
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the concept of boon was often talked about, which is i am because we are, we look at ourselves as interconnected and we are connected not just was us, but also to the planet mark. we've been talking a lot about the level of messaging here. one of the key elements of messaging, of course, is nor your audience. we've done a lot of research globally to into climate change. we know a lot about how that is happening. do we need to do more research? do you think into how people are actually responding? so the messaging can be better targeted? well, i think perhaps some of the concerns here around, you know, what, what, what, what is the purpose of that messaging? so, you know, if, if the message here is that actually it's down to you is every day citizens to do your best to tackle climate change, then that's all about the behavioral change of the individual. i think where my analysis would come from is to say that as being said already that we need to put
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in place the system changes in order to tackle climate change. so, you know, if you're living in fuel poverty, in a tellerman and glasgow, your, your choice is to change your heating system or, or to do things differently to cut your emissions are extremely limited. so if you have a change in the energy system, if you have a government that will support you to make your house more efficient than that's the kind of system change that we need to tackle climate change. so we're gonna unfortunately, we've run out of time, but i want to thank you very much indeed for your contribution and i want to thank all our guests, david, the embargo, harkell, me, mark rascal and duty, but now go for being with us. and of course, thank you to you too for watching. we can see the program again, any time by visiting our website. i'll do 0 dot com for further discussion. go to a facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story. new can also join the conversation on twitter. i handle is at a inside story for me,
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