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for goods is leading to arrive in force and child labor. and from exporting cocaine, cannabis columbia's ambitious to self medical marijuana. counting the cost on al jazeera or the european union, and bella roost playing politics with refugees. fellow roost is accused of opening a new migrant route as a retaliation against you. sanctions could their stand off lead to a humanitarian crisis in the baltics. this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much am jerome? the european union is divided on how to respond to a migration crisis. in the baltics, bella roost is accused of helping refugees and migrants from afghanistan, iraq,
and syria, to cross the border into the block. you leaders are calling it state sponsored smuggling. the number of those trying to cross has surged in recent months. poland border agency says it's recorded 16000 attempts since august, and 5000 in october alone. other migrants travel to latvia and lithuania. b. u accuses bella bruce of using what it calls hybrid warfare to retaliate against sanctions. it imposed on minsk those measures were a response to a crackdown on descent in belarus. that's led to thousands of people being detained since last year. natasha butler has more from brussels. as frustration with bell royce grows in the block, some european leaders did not hold back on the last day of a summit in brussels. they accused president alexander lucas jenko, of running a human trafficking ring and weapon ising migration,
by helping people to cross and legally into neighboring countries to be see the harbor, to attack, or of belarus regime, which is continued, which is becoming more and more aggressive. receive is up for salvation efforts. we see a prior tri soft bar ocean regime to find new connections. new destinations. the u says uminski is flying people mainly from the middle east into bearers, and helping them to cross the border into the block by a poland, lithuania and latvia. what are you in luxembourg prime minister called on leaders to respect people's rights a day after an 8th person died on the border, where conditions for migrants are grim. some countries want to build a board offense, but after the meeting you leaders agree to strengthen boarders and impose more sanctions on minsk. we consider the behavior of the bellows government as a hybrid attack. the people used by lucas shanker of victims. we must help them.
no one's life should be used for political issues and this is an instrument elevation of migration to pull it put to political pressure on the european union. we will keep up the pressure on the lucas shenker regime and the problem with the europeans borders is not so much that we don't have an off border guards or order. we don't have enough fences. da da da, real problem is that when people manage to enter illegally on you territory or that they are fairly certain that they will be able to stay even if they do not have a right to stay with one of us, his actions widely seen as retaliation for existing you sanctions, some one to whether more penalties and likely to stop minsk. but how to tackle migrations long been a source of division in the block. at our last summit is german chancellor. angler
merkel expressed regret. but after so many discussions, the e u has yet to come up with a coherent migration plan. natasha butler al jazeera brussels. the migrants are caught in the middle. al jazeera steadfast and spoke to 2 men who eventually made it to germany. they told us what you will, you will, i will kill you. he will be dying. no means you could go to bullen. but of course, yes. and they told us they cut it, they give us a cutter. they told us ok, bull and pull me, go. and get to the copper yes the they give us the cut of what to cut. the harvard wire that he was duck being sent back and forth between the 2 countries for 20 days, better wishes would tell us to go to poland. a polish return was to go the opposite direction to but of us. but 20 days we had no access to food or water and pollution . police would either pop by weapons as well,
beaches and repeatedly tell us to go back to poland. ah, all right, let's bring in our guests in kevin ukraine, yellow slab roman show president of the think tank, mrs. scientific research center and in brussels, catalano chief executive of the center for european policy studies. thank you for joining us. we appreciate your time here on the inside story today. kado, let me start with you today. european union leaders pledged on friday to keep up the pressure on beller roost. president alex anchor alexander lucas shanker. to halt the flow of migrants from his country. how do they keep up the pressure? what does that entail was we know since august last year they had started with sanctions. i know they have increase on the sanction of the month of june. and of course, they are further looking into what all the depression exercise on the government. i know they're looking also to take in order priority for what they did with this a journalist who came back from, from athens and
a force to land in between. yeah. but also they're looking especially at natasha, but also looking to do the same thing, i think, to all the international organizations, the problem who have risk b. russia is not a member of many organizations like the counsel europe or be a good question. so the only things, yes, is through these all the international organizations, like i met from the united nations. but this is more difficult because for example, the i m. s. recently accorded a 1000000000 loan to get it. so, i mean, the best thing you can do is to use at all the means to look at all domains which exist up international level with rational organizations. put pressure on russia. for example. also ensure that fly from syria or flights from iraq cannot happen. who bring the stuff which is the strongest and all these me so, so just to make sure that the maximum pressure is on the lane also on russia and go
on the government yet us live. you leaders have also agreed to impose more sanctions on men's going forward. but if bela bruce's actions are seen as a retaliation for existing e u sanctions, how would imposing more sanctions actually be effective? let's talk about the appropriate or the nature of sanctions because in the 1st 9 months of the year in the light of sanctions, bolivar some export of the goods to european union doubled and look, shamika laughed at the way. busy sanctions imposed because what he cares about is money. there are no restrictions on trade. there are almost no restrictions and capital. moreover, some european companies urge european union to change sanctions regime as it was imposed so far. so good question go said different hybrid modes
of waging war against european union. i implemented information will. busy trade warfare, and what he cares about is keeping the society under treat control and preserving contexts with the kremlin and keep both cusick cesium bad and in the light, very inappropriate mode of sanctions. he believes he can do that without any consequences. but what i should notice and point out is how come that these inflow refugees of people from different. busy countries happened only in 2021, never had happened before. so there must be some information campaign in these countries to tell the people what kind of stagers brother has and not to come to bother. because nobody forces into these planes to come to bellows, which is definitely where do this hybrid mode of warfare with europe in union to
abolish sanctions altogether. and kind of the you keeps talking about hybrid warfare that bella roost is waging some type of hybrid attacks. and hybrid warfare . what exactly can you break that down for us? what exactly is hybrid warfare mean when, when it's applied to bell roost right now. hi. and this gauge is kind of a work that is not the real thing. i mean, i mean, but it is not saying that they are doing these things. they are doing seem just as a threat. i mean to the european union. and they said, this is margaret and calling to reach out to go to the you. but they are saying that that's the form of hydro marford risk, but i think i said these are the things that you can count on us. we know that we have some other problems with it, but they're trying to cross the border into hold on, all of which is not one of the most key members of europe in europe in union can use as also as an element towards foreign to say, look, you see what your opinion is good or we can act together,
and we can stop this guy at your borders, which you don't like at all as well to come into your country. but anyway, it's a thing which, you know, you want you don't time. it's happened already in the times, but i think look, i didn't have to look very far. everyone was edited on this, but the city and 201516 by which it with maximum brush. and i'm back. i've got several billions to keep the shooting refugees, but then the per piece borders. but again, let's have what you can do is limit that, but the best thing that you will be concentra to be a nicest android sized maximum brush. i'm probably also, as the other speaker was saying, and there are still many more things you can do. and if, for example, the mass just a quarter to 1000000000 loan to do a better lucia that should not have been done. but again, apparently there are still money to polls which can keep look, shane court eyes. and the most important one is close relationship. put in
a regression years life is what we're seeing here is oh yeah, go ahead. if you want to jump in, please go. hey me a little bit correction. that is not alone. technically that's a burst member of the funds that each member of i am i've got and there must be good reasons not to give it to borrows like not recognizing the legit mr. barshan government deny mark is not a political organization to do that. that is why look a stronger regime god is $920000000.00 and definitely that's not the loan. and it doesn't say. ready that i am f support that however europe in union foreign policy should definitely be more. busy comprehensive and consistent and again the seller will see is famous for having smuggled. busy different kinds of gray economy schemes in trading tobacco goods with europe in union and it has never been stopped . so. busy migration is another way. busy that shows that differently homework.
busy should be done by european union to come to why has the still not been able to come up with a coherent and comprehensive migration plan? yeah, there's no element, but that's an issue. i mean, if you look at that you, we have money going to us or united, what are very integrated, but the whole domain of what we call home of. and it's just as affairs is much less and of course has evolved into placing us. but we still do not have, for example, of common aside in policy. i mean, we have different interpretations over into different member states mange the total national responsibility. it's more of an e response, but i really think that has called for an e. why it's our new agency, permanent foundation of the w convention. but of course, there's still some way to go before we get there. and by the way, publish the paper on there's only a month ago, just saying whole crucially important. it is to do that. but again,
this is the main, remember, stage referred to keep it on their own control rather than have it under your control. and again, you don't need to look pretty far. look at hungry look at the photos which are more . this is the members within the you are to call it that way, which would certainly not like to have process dictating b as in a policy for these 2 countries kind of, you just mentioned, you know, basically the idea that you would like to see there be a unified policy when it comes to asylum, what has to happen for that to become a reality? i mean, it's not. so this is just the members that have to agree in column that he wants to do this together. and there is a single agency dealing with all as either of you, but that means that they have to get a sovereignty over asylum applications or national level. but asked me, haven't you are 30, which is basically looking at all member states to agree on to the side on the side
for a given asylum seeker years today, it is totally a member sponsibility. it's not you are responsible. yara slot at its core right now is what we're seeing play out is this a case of bell ruse and the you essentially playing politics with the lives of refugees. unfortunately, a cynical behavior. busy a blurring ability is i believe it does not inform people who come to bother on the conditions and how they can go to european union on the one hand. on the other hand, it, the regime realizes the soft part in your part. and paul is have migration policy and abuse, of course, but there is one player also that we should mention case russia. thank you, paul. believe that a russian definitely could have a say in these kind of conflict. and if russia say something or take
the position to the migration policy in order. busy i think that european union would be very grateful, and russia would also see that it has some leverage on brothers wherever it doesn't happen. that means that not only migration policy is in question and it does not ad strength european union. but also that add info to injury and like energy policy right now the capital. busy and many other things, and we see the weakening of ricky and union as the fact that he's abused by russian, russian authorities altogether. and kind of from your vantage point to this standoff that's playing out right now, could it lead to a, a humanitarian crisis in the baltics sort of the gosh, this is ongoing to several months. and the question is, how can we stop it from happening? and that's why we need to try to exercise much maximum pressure. and it is, for example, group even further limiting, for example,
plains getting access to the ocean s face and to one and acting to other conversations just to really get the government on his knees. but, you know, it's very difficult to do that, and there are so many bass are supported by russia. dennis will made us don't. on the other hand, if you see what he's doing and we see all the things that are happening in the country, we shouldn't be desperate. we know that the opposition is very strong and better shall certainly outside the country and lead rain on phones and other countries last year. and we have to support this opposition to try to exercise maximum pressure to get rid of this month in russia. era slots, are there any indications right now the president lucas shank would back down at all or be more concerned about the possibility of further sanctions carrying over $700.00 political prisoners and over $70000.00 people who suffer from
the regime. look shank, having very favorable economic conditions and again increase of export by 35 percent in 2021. having russia or china support. busy he is not likely to break down. why should he, if he's raging information trade migration warfare and he's saying that your opinion is. busy not demonstrating trends and what he cares and what he's afraid is unity and force and determination to resist these kind of behavior. so essentially, involuntary, european union is kind of supporting this kind of behavior of the rational regime and the number of people on the russians who left the country. i think they fitted half a 1000000 which differently weekend, but the russian opposition inside the country and there is no pressure inside of it . so i think that. busy the prospects changing and the regime are quite grim
and cut out there are growing calls by some e. u. member states to build border fences to build walls. do you believe that we're going to see that happening more and more? yes, we can have these roles, but you know this border between boucher and love via liter wayne or excuse me dog . so it's extremely difficult to have the census as a kind of a 100 percent fence between these different countries. so i think this is not a solution. there will always be based around people are given by the below version of government means to cut. so way these francis, again imitate, this is not the solution. we'll have to think about all the solutions with maximal pressure on the government. and don't forget that are so many ways we can do work with other companies like for example, switzerland or u. k. or other countries. i mean, can also be persuaded to join you and making sure that we're getting a way,
you know, i just want to talk for a moment about how the dynamics of migration to europe may have changed these past several years. is, is the baltic root has that become a more viable alternative for migrants both occurred on the one hand and poland. busy these are 2 venues where migrate my migraines go. busy and the reason is there a simple there is no. busy physical border, no obstacle that so so it is stimulated support, this kind of delivery of people and you for that one whole according to law. they should have the right to be in the border zone. so definitely the damn location there being that definitely should be supported by the authority. so back again now if you want to change behavior barshan authorities, the best and most effective way would be to talking to 4th urge by the russian commercial partners in european union to change your location. going to begin here
. we know that we've had means dialect provide years. we had like recent example of brussels, belgium company urging the brussels to change leaf sanctions. we have or st business spots and junior business part as in different areas. busy so there are many ways to see, in fact, you to put pressure on shanker behavior and to add, if we add also some diplomatic and other tools to dialogue cover dialogue with russia and how bellows behave. that also can be the way out of the situation because you spoke a few moments ago about the fact that you perceive what's happening right now on the border to be an actual humanitarian crisis. playing out human rights groups have criticize both poland and bella roost for their treatment of asylum seekers. i want to ask you about how dire the conditions are for migrants and refugees and
whether or not authorities, or even ensuring medical support or providing food and shelter. that are not aware of, but i think they do. but again, let's say you can, it's the easiest way, as i said in the greek plans are probably before the easiest way to have some form of warfare is just 2 years. human beings are way to get what they want, which is told me unjustified. and that's why you have to use all legal means to put the maximum person on the government. if the losing human humans to get their re, humans live, to get their way done, it has to be extreme with up. and again, let's say you are speaking, i'm saying, but still so many things we can do. i know we had loans was funding from european investment bank to the better government, but there are also others which are still doing traits with the government. let's say let's act on this and make sure that the government just behaved. and rachel, ya, 5, do you foresee the, you being able to come to some sort of agreement,
any type of agreement that would guarantee shared responsibility for migrants or asylum seekers going forward? so far, your opinion has failed to deliver on the unity of migration policy abroad. at the same time, we believe that under the pressure of this human karen catastrophe when the winter's coming and winter is much more severe. so the catastrophe probably will grow. and the definitely requires a group union union to act to lead to support governments in poland. busy athenian live tour to kind of, to deal with this. you can mentor in crisis. otherwise say, you know, that would be a big blow to the reputation of repeating union as the organization that stands out as a democratic free world. so definitely the reputation and, and good will of repeating unity, the state and you for your opinion,
cannot act in the unity to resist this crisis to neutralize that then there will definitely further erode. busy european union reputation in the world 5 at a time when there is this erosion ongoing of the reputation of you. partly because of this crisis. i mean, what, from your perspective has to happen for, you know, these countries to come together to actually come up with a coherent plan to deal with this? i would, i have the craziest idea right now, probably for many speakers are, you know, one, so that union collapsed, not when all the sanctions where the most severe butler sanctions way gone. so if you do not have any other ways to put against there, look, i shouldn't go regime with these are the european union, having in mind what kind of connections you carry with put in, get rid of sanctioned altogether, there must be other ways to pursue freedom and democracy in the region and then.
busy you will not have humanitarian catastrophe and deaths or poor refugees at the border. busy of poland beller, bella was 17 year, so there could be this wild solution to consider. all right, well we have run out of time to we're going to have to leave our conversation there . thanks so much to our guest. yarrow slab roman shook and cut a lot and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, l g 0 dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our handle is at a jay inside story for me and how much i'm doing the whole team here. bye for now. ah. the latest news, as it breaks the president is allowed to impose
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