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to an outstanding dark drama that has already won a prize at the sundance film festival for visionary filmmaking, for people in breaking faso, this event is an opportunity to experience the diversity of african narratives, and for african storytellers, a chance to get their work seen on a global stage nicholas hawk al jazeera while good to go. ah, it is good to have you with us. hello, adrian said again hearing though how the headlines are al jazeera, the saudi led coalition in yemen says that it's killed at least 160 who t fighters in murray province. dozens of airstrikes were launched in support of government forces to push back the rebels. last month with these renewed and offensive in the province maribel the internationally recognized governments last stronghold in northern yemen. the african interior ministry says that girls will soon return to secondary schools. they've only been permitted to attend primary
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school since the televisions takeover. access to education has been a major demand of the international community. one out from out to cirrus, stephanie decker, who's in cobble well, he indicated that it was imminent, re that girls and secondary school and universities and their teachers, female teachers would be returning very soon. this is something that we've been hearing from the talib on since they took power, that yes, they would return, but it's going to take time. and of course, i'm taking a toll on a lot of the girls. they want to go back to school. they want to continue their studies and it's also, you know, one of the demands of the international community for the taliban to protect and safeguard the rights of girls and women to go to school. and to work. a ceremony is taking place in paris to monk, 60 years since the massacre of algerian protested in a police crackdown the man of paris and had, i'll go was among those attending the event on saturday. and manuel mc chrome became the 1st french president to attend such
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a commemoration civil activists in lebanon, calling for protest against the political release. days after 7 people were killed in sectarian violence. they want to march the 2nd anniversary of the sort of major protests against the government. hundreds of fishermen and sure lanka protesting against what they say is poaching from neighboring india. they want the government to enforce a 2017 law that prevents india and fishermen encroaching into swank and waters. at least 900 people have been killed in land slides and floods in india is carolyn state. more than a dozen people, including 5 children, have been reported missing at a vigilance been held in norwegian town of congress berg for 5 people killed by an attacker using a bow and arrows. 3 other people were injured in the incident on wednesday. the government has announced an independent investigation into the police response. i was the headlines, more news for him to 0 after inside story, which we recorded earlier.
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aah! from the creation of plantations and the birth of the industrial revolution to slavery of mass migration is colonialism to blame for the dog situation. we face with climate change. this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm adrian said again, an exhibition looking at the legacy of colonialism and the role that it played in the birth of climate change has opened in london, 11 artists with
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a personal connection to africa, the caribbean and south america of pinpointed environmental change as a racial process with deep roots and colonial history, through this collection of artworks, the overlapping crises of environmental damage and colonialism. a put on the scrutiny. i'll just here as jessica baldwin has been to have a look. mountains of sugar piled high in a french warehouse, harvested in sugar cane plantations across the globe. the sweet cargo travels thousands of kilometers to feed europe. it's a pattern of tre, dating back hundreds of years. and as this exhibition argues that history holds the roots of current climate change. we are history challenges, visitors to take a different perspective to go back in time to when european nations colonized much of the world, extracting natural resources, forcing millions into slavery, and setting up the plantation system. from the colonial period onwards,
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we had these patterns of movements of shapes, movements of people, movements of product, movements of commerce, movements of communication. if we want to understand what climate change looks like and how we brought that about as a human species, we can look at our practices across hundreds of years. worked by artists with a personal connection to the developing world. traced the link between empire building and pillaging of the land, and the native people are drawings by dutch sailors celebrating the plentiful as they arrived in africa. where their large scale plunder left a number of animals extinct the archive. photograph of young men and a boy piloting their canoe and madagascar seeks to re dignify the subjects, not a docile group. the black braid surrounding the hanging speaks to the in slave people,
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working together to resist as best they could be resilient and to survive. we stand as a testament to vet survival and i think, you know, we, we live within a globalized systems that still use these extract your practices. and so actually, for the majority of people out there, they don't that you know, that the economics of the plantation haven't really gone away. michelle is in a colonial era building summer set house was the headquarters for the british navy . the power britain relied on to rule a large part of the world. the global trade patterns of that empire persist poorly paid factory workers in the developing world, providing cheap goods to consumers in the noise. jessica baldwin al jazeera lana will will introduce you to our panel in just a moment. but 1st, let's take a look into the background surrounding climate change and links to colonialism. the 1st evidence of man made climate change dates back to the early days of the
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industrial revolution in the 1800s. that's when mass manufacturing was born. it went hand in hand with colonialism. as western nations used slave labor in large scale farming and to extract raw materials, industrialized countries grew their economies by burning fossil fuels. and he, scientists believe that those emissions lead to an increase in the planets average temperature around the year, 1830 created by practices born of a colonial mindset to create wealth. climate change has become one of our most pressing threats. and fittingly next week, the you and climate summit will bring governments together in scotland to decide the goals of the paris agreement. aah! so let's bring it our guests in london. we have with us at echo ashley. he is the curator of that exhibition. we were hearing about just a few moments ago. we are history and from hamburg, yoga zimmer. he's
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a professor at the university of hamburg focusing on colonialism, genocide, africa, and post colonial memory. gentlemen, welcome to you both echo. let's start with you. tell us more about the thinking behind this exhibition. it aims how you went about selecting the artists and what their work is saying to us. well, fishing has occurred. we, our histories at sunset house london group exhibition with 9 artists whose puzzle origins lie in the global south in africa, the caribbean, south america, and whose artists have individual even their work. being ex, laurie in these complex legacies and relationships between colonialism and climate change. they do that to range of different practices in terms of photography fil tapestry orange em. but the main issue,
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i think the main issue spaces, the exhibition as a whole is to, i think, try expand some of our discourse and discussion are around what we think of what we talk about, what we see when we discuss kind of change. so conventionally we think kind of change something really that, that, that, that kind of close to the rules and hemisphere is a modern, compact of industrial revolutionary. more recently, the artisan is christian and its mission is a po suggested if you really want to understand the beginning origin of how we got to where we are right now. as a pallet, we have to go back to the 16th century to the 17th century gains colonialism when you, when you go 1st large scale mass movements of people. ready granite force migrations, 3 slavery when you got a large scale shift in a barn, as
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a consequence of plantation agriculture mano cult molly lee, kind of money comp agriculture. you got the right, it's all extract here. my and in practice isn't as mine. so yeah. who are, these are pretty, i echo is the end of the kind of echoes you as you say, that it explores the complex, like a legacies of colonialism. but why should people care what's the, what's the relevance to now, as we face the climate emergency that we currently are facing? i mean, i only think, i think if we want to really grapple with grass or even understand or gauge with the really a central question to climate change, i think it helps if we can figure out how to tell stories, how to have narratives that we can understand and, and most of those narratives that we live with currently are confined to the
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northern hemisphere. so we think climate change, we think perhaps, or for a major as i fall on the computer there on a shrinking piece of ice. this exhibition and work of these artists, i think office and new ways of looking at new ways of thinking about a change by looking through the perspectives of people in the developing world. by suggesting the ways or engaging with nature, the local sounds, different digits, communities have had for centuries and generations to offer us some weight. treasure in nature, understanding is for jill. a 2 units for nurse and thinking about how environment climates in developing world or be affected profoundly by kind of i think this is about expanding some of our frame of reference and our discussion,
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you're going to what extent is today's climate emergency due to an ongoing form of colonialism with thinking about huge corporations polluting, exploiting workers, pillaging the planets, mineral wealth. oh, great. do of course we have a political colonization and a 1960 s, but we never had a economic coroner's action. and a lot of static cannot make structures in which a revised road is operating. i stem from from, from de cologne o lobo session. so we have to take this into account and we need to be colonized not only our ms young's something which is a important topic at the moment in europe. but we have to be colonized our structures. we have to be colonized o economic system be after the colonized our way of living. basically,
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we are facing a exist anxious threat or the most exhaust stanford threat humanity ever has faced . and we really need to the colonizing our way. our way of looking at the road and our narratives and, and, and, and basically everything you're going with, we started and, and our discussion with, with the exhibition in london and the interrelations between today's climate emergency and the legacies of colonialism. how important do you think it is that the people acknowledge that connection? i think we need to acknowledge this, and that was my, my starting point or into restarting research. and thinking about this topic was to say, how did we get where we are. this is through colonial globalization and why are we the, the people in the global north, a completely unable to really understand this existential threat and to act
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accordingly. and i think both is linked for a 600 years. europeans are used up more resources, then they produced on their own and, and what would have been their normal share per capita. and, and, and not only did we get into the mess, which we are now through this, this capitalist system, which of which is based on growth and consumption. it also makes us in the global north, unable to address that issue properly. because we also learned over 600 youth that we got away with because the people who suffered from this resource extraction from this over use an over consumption of resources that the people that login osh. and now when, when it gets closer to home to us. yeah, and eva, and we still think it's not serious. we get our babies. it just need a technical fix because we can't imagine that that it's not working up because it
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worked out for us for 600 years. as you probably saw just a few moments ago, we've been joined by a 3rd guest, stefan singer is from the climate action network international. he's a senior climate science and global energy policy advisor. he's with us now from brussels. stephan rieger to have you with us. does identifying the beginnings of climate change as we have been talking about here, help us deal with the current climate emergency. if you look into d colonization in the count, in a context of climate change, when you need to look into that, we have them the, the rich middle class us, many of the north, but increasing the also the house and the upper class of cross of color nice to spaced, was you to missions would stay there rob patel's new. yes. and which course climate change in the atmospheric an atmospheric sense. so that's the way what we need to
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be was to pay back our ecological app in one way or the other. i wouldn't say it's limited to the north and includes also increasingly the middle classes and the rich classes of the south, which can hide behind behind the, the north only and always gives us something we're addressing internally, plumbing, ex, network. but the less the majority of the emissions and this, the suitcases, carbon dioxide emissions from burning fossil fuels coming from a classical rich northern masons like the u. k. the u. s. germany, rutter, japan, and a couple of others. what is this? is this, this kind of, if you want, if you, if you call it vantage or, or leadership negatively, the ship is being fitting away because we're going to be taken up by the middle class and the rich gloves of india, china, south africa and others, right? i think we need to be, we need to be aware that there's a common understanding that we need to decala nice and the comes of climate change
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stuff, colonize, yeah. or cover. and i can see the stephanie, you talked about about paying back. i think the public these days understands the climate change is real up. that argument is one, right? and people think it's fairly safe to say worried. does the public though understand the costs involved in fixing the problems? i mean polluters should pay, of course. but what about the public? well, i don't know what the public you're thinking. i'm coming from a scientific perspective. and i think that most people would understand that you have for that to happen. responsibility. as a precautionary principal, of course, something you have to pay for repairing it and one way or the other. so we need to reduce significantly our missions. i think that's coming in the standing, anyone that is not a given thing. give them the staples of our, of our climate. but the 2nd thing is how do we repair for the loss of damages that
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occurred in the house, developing countries from don communities, but also increasingly in the norse. but as i'm saying, what we have to do as well, to pay for leverage money, finances for paying those communities to do adapt to climate change both resilience and simply pay for loss or damages. the kind of after, after adaptation, loss or damage is coming in a big way. and this will be one of our priorities for the upcoming climate conference. last, which we'll get on to end in just a moment. but you're going to show you shaking your head a few moments ago. not sure whether that was in disagreement or agreement, but don't want to pick up on what stuff. i was saying that yeah, i think stephan is right, but it's, it's not enough to pay compensation or reparation of whatever for, for local communities. i mean, the colonial globalization has shown that be ever, ever more an equal distribution of wealth on the globe. and in order and the i know
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double bind because in the north we say, okay, we are, we are ready for 0 emission in the future and keep our, our level of comfort, our way of living. and that won't be possible, because the large part of the globe water has a right to, to increase their, their standard of living. and their consumption levels are we need go with social justice. and that means that we need actually to lower our living standard in the global north in order to allow that lower south to get some increase in their wealth. i mean, the stephanie was right to say this is also a point now for the elite in the global south and a middle classes, which also need to adapt. but on a lower level, the need a reduction or lowering of our living standards in the north. i mean,
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to allow others to grow and increase their, their consumption level. and that is something which we need to tower our people. and nobody really wants to tell everybody hopes for, for a logo global fixed. and as i, as i took me to fix and as i said, that just because we used to it because it was 600 years. when you get more resources, we went somewhere else and got the resources there. and in science fiction, we now and not only in science fiction, we talk about the colonization of, of the moon or the mass, which is just the continuation of this narrative that we can increase consumption and listen. but the simple fact we can't, and that is something which we need to, to tell the people at an, a eco cartoon just just a moment, but, but you're going, i just want to ask you a question about the mindset that allows people in one part of the world to live beyond their fair share of resources at the expense of others. globalization as
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a form of, of colonialism. yeah, i mean that is, i mean that is my observation when i see that people, even in germany, which are quite sensitive about climate change, still think that they can just go on living the way or they used to live and over say, because we will find a way forward and, and that they are in denial, in denial of, of, of the way germany, europe has acquired its riches and in denial of the conic ranches, off this climate emergency. and i think it's time to really tell the truth, and we need to think ahead and find a new way, a global social justice approach to this in an a global scale is have you have to change basically everything in order to survive. this emergency occur, as he said,
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this exhibition is made up of work. are many from artists from, from the global south in what ways have, has the legacy of colonialism and its impact on, on climate change affected that their work. i mean, it runs entirely through their work. there were there work has a politics to it because in built in the photographs of the films or tapestries they make, there's a clear wang social injustice and inequity between north and south. but also there was a poetry to it as a visual parity to it because their work is deep embedded in working from the perspective of people from places and communities and memory is within america, carrier africa. which is to say to one of the ways that we can
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start to a fact some of these shifts of your other speakers are talking about is through an expansion of our own imaginative reach. is through being able to stevie through the eyes of other people. and perhaps reach closer to a sense of understanding of what's at stake, o b, t, preciousness of the natural world in different parts of the world, of the climate and the peoples and environment. so, understanding that these legacies in play isn't just to lamenting. it's also a way of saying, look, let's shift our perspective. let's expand our imagine to reach in order to understand what's at stake, but also to recognize that there are more possibilities in play about how we can talk about how to think about climate change. as a consequence, i want to start to cover this differently about stephan is as you pointed out,
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this exhibition opens ahead of the top $26.00 climate conference in glasgow with with progress on the 2015 parents agreement. still lagging me. what are the chances of cop 26 actually being anything more than just a talking shop but results in more empty promises? i dunno to be very honest. i think boys johnson mix a good job on hopping an up and making a propaganda show. and that will be one of the cops some which might end up in nice commitments on the paper. and that picked up on the shelf, but nothing which is the materialise of all which are some granular and precise. unfortunately, we had a couple of good cups of the past. thudding from kyoto, going to paris, and most of the cops had been just empty paperless, unfortunately, that doesn't speak against multi lateral agreements and largely lateral get together. i think we have to go through that one, but i think the real fight is on the ground. the real fight is not on his caps. and
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is this on the regions as in the cities, as an a countries in the parliament? that's where the commit prints are being done by the implementation has to be great . i think we need to be need to be clear about this one. let me say one thing about the, the, all the, all and up, and i might be a little bit exaggerating here on the, on the standing a, we have to tell our people in our rich countries, supposedly rich countries. they all have to give up their livingston as teresa livingston, as i think that's a very detrimental approach. i think we need to differentiate whom we ask that one . i think we need to go for emma coming from a social justice movement on a trade unionist. i'm a socialist for many years and i think we really, really differentiate and tell and tell and tell the public there certain folks, certain classes. ok who benefit from a current situation to benefit from the failure of the states? yes. to address texas and equity and others were suffering. we have in germany. revenue was mentioned in germany about 30 percent in poverty were working. they the
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increase the increase of the minimum wages now from 9 euro to 12, euro, and germany, which might be coming up with senior coalition affects 37 percent of the population . the 37 percent of the population have a wage per hour, which is less than 12 euro. yoga i need a very quick answer from you. did you know your comments? your thoughts on that brittany queen elizabeth this week was, was, was overheard expressing her frustration with the politicians being all talking and no action. what are your thoughts on comp 26 as he is? she is right. and if copper 26 doesn't do away with the ideology of growth and consumption, then it's it's, it's failing because that's what we need them to tell us that we are the id, ology of growth lead to this disaster. and this, this ideology in place, we can't, we can't short it out there gentlemen. i'm afraid we're going to have to wait a bit out of time and he thinks indeed to for being with us. echo ashan johonson
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mother and stephan singer. and as always, thank you for watching. don't forget, you can see the program again at any time just by going to the website at al jazeera dot com for further discussion. join us on our facebook page that's at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. and you can join the conversation on twitter handle at ha, inside story from me, adrian finnegan for the whole team here in though. huh, thanks for watching. we'll see you again, bye. for now, ah ah,
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