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humanitarian crisis worse. chillers government has declared a state of emergency after armed members of the indigenous. my put j people took control of forests from logging companies, demanding the preservation of ancestral lands. tens of thousands of government supporters have rally their cross bolivia. that follows days of anti government protests against a proposed law. that could mean authorities wouldn't need to get a court order before investigating the assets of any citizen. and the swan law has more on the rallies. the rallies are still going on. they been staggered throughout the day to allow president luis, are to say, to fly from coach of amber in the center of the country to le bars. and then over to the eastern city of santa cruz, where, where he is now bringing out tens of thousands of his supporters of government supporters across the country. and it very much is an attempt at a show of strength at a show of the country to show the opposition that there are more government supporters than there were anti government support. anti government protested out
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in the streets on monday, u. s. immigration of the officials will no longer be able to conduct mass raids at work places where a suspected undocumented immigrants are employed. the move is part of president joe biden shift in punishing businesses that violate labor laws rather than going after vulnerable workers. a source incidence security agency has told al jazeera that bill implement a ban on some government officials from travelling abroad. one of those facing band is mohammed al, fucking, a member of the countries sovereignty council. since a qu in 2019 sudan has been run by an administration of military generals and civilian officials as a move through a rocky transition marred by in fighting. he is president of hood a can yetta says he firmly rejects and will not recognize a ruling by the international court of justice, which is largely in favor of somalia in a long running dispute over their maritime border. was the headlines. denise
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continues on all disease after inside story. good bye. ah time is running out to save the planets, wildlife, un biodiversity summit, and china's demanding urgent action. but the wills fail to meet any of the goals said 10 years ago to protect nature. so what will this conference actually achieve? this is insight story. ah hello and welcome to the program. today with me,
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pete adobe leaders from around the world will gather in glasgow for the cop 26 climate change summit in just under 3 weeks from now. a closely linked un summit on biodiversity is taking place right now in china with the aim of preserving our planets, wildlife, plants and animals are disappearing at an alarming rate. the un has said human activity is driving a 1000000 species towards extinction. agriculture, pollution and climate change or threatening ecosystems worldwide. the u. n's bio security chief, opened the conference in con ming with this warning. we are facing our moment of truth. if we are to meet the 25th division of living in harmony with nature, we must take actions this decade to hold in rivers, biodiversity laws and put by a diversity on a path to recovery by 20 fact, it is the latest. this is their defining challenge of all attain
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china's presidency ging paying has launched a $230000000.00 fun to help protect ecosystems. in the developing countries is what he had to say. in the approval gigi, about facing the jewel task of restoring the economy and protecting the environment . developing countries need even more help and supports. we need to strengthen now unity and work together to get through this challenging time so that the results of development in better ecology will be farrah. the summit and china includes parties to the un convention on biological diversity or c, b, d. in 2010 representatives agreed on a 10 year plan to protect species and to conserve ecosystems. but none of their goals are achieved by the 2020 deadline. countries now aim to come up with a new set of targets for the next 10 years. this includes putting 30 percent of the earth's land on oceans under protected status, otherwise known as the 30 by 30,
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and eliminating plastic waste and reducing the use of harmful pesticides. ah, okay, there we are. here we go. let's bring in our guests. joining us from london, govern edwards global coordinator at new deal for nature and people at the world wide fund international in nairobi. we have nancy if eager kenya, country director at the african wildlife foundation and in brussels. we have stefan singer, senior climate science and global energy policy advisor at climate action network international. welcome to you all nancy in nairobi. coming to 1st, we're talking about cop 15. we've been talking about it for a decade. nothing apparently has changed. how come? yeah, unfortunately this is another 15 and as we are saying, looking back at the last 10 years, 2011 to 2020, we do not achieve the commitments that were made globally. many countries do not
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achieve that are in fact almost all do not achieve it. so we are saying it not to walk. there was commitment. was there sufficient action? probably not. was there sufficient resources? probably not. so now looking at 2020 and beyond what we are calling our builds. 2020. what then should change if we are going to achieve what wasn't achieved in the last 10 years? so quite a lot and unfortunately also coming up the backdrop of bigger challenges, bigger challenges of climate change, bigger challenges, of course, does he currently have a so then commitment now and as we speak about post 2020 has to be matched with action has to be matched with the resources stephan singer in brussels, climate change, or the main aspects of climate change we're told all the time can be reversible. but once an ecosystem is lost, is it lost forever? you need to talk, you need, you need to talk to illusion that no one knows. but the point is if you lose
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species, these species are gone forever. so it's an irreversible loss. we have the same thing with climate change, some of the losses. so some of the impacts of climate change are of course, reversible. that's the reason why we are fighting for deep emissions reductions about 50 percent of fossil fuel emissions reductions by 2030, which is based on scientific recommendations. and further on facing our fossil fuels completely. and stopping and reversing the destruction and degradation of ecosystems and forests, as a very strong component to store carbon, to protect biodiversity which are important for our life. and for many other purposes, we cannot implement change. we cannot basically hold um in a short term and we were in a short term the douglas haitian of polar ice caps. unfortunately, all the losses of the himalayan glaciers once be lost glaciers in greenland or on
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the antarctic her once it's a global big litigation process, it's very, very late. it's very, very difficult to recapture that one in century. so even millennia, the same was true for reciting, sea level, rice and f. c level ice, a curse. we loose, very important coastal ecosystems, populations, frontline communities. so if they're in smaller than states and countries like bangladesh, for instance, on other are low lying areas and coastal areas, mainly in developing countries on cities. it's very difficult to reclaim that land back once is flooded with salt water for many reasons. so i think irritability in our timescale, which is an edward letter, so the life of a person and 100 years. also climate change is, is not necessarily possible. it might be the possible and longer term that at some point in time the glacial return. but this is beyond our control bianco lifeline. okay. but not the time. it's not possible for species evac on their god. okay.
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kevin edwards in london, we think or we're assuming there is a momentum being built here to set new targets for the 2030. will those targets be missed as well? as nancy said, we had a little bit of a last decade where not enough action was taken. this time. it has to be different . this time it feels difference a compared to a decade ago. now we have many will lead us 90 to will leaders of sign a pledge, a nature and those that pledge mccree to implant. and that pledge we've seen 1000 seals from businesses around the world. commit on nature, an advocate or a strong action plan on the jet and start to we just our own business practices on nature as well. we've seen the finance sector and central bankers start to look at how they are investing in a managing risks. relate to nature loss in their businesses, particularly the cultural sector as well. and we see civil society and greater and greater numbers, faith organizations, humanitarian groups, and others,
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raising their voice to also we see new funding, new money committed. just a couple weeks ago we saw 5000000000 in new philanthropic funding for conservation . today we heard president g of china and his opening remarks a different conference committed to 30000000 of funding to help developing countries as well. now all of these numbers are big, they're not nowhere near big enough, but what they are doing is creating a positive momentum for change. so this time we feel if there is a strong action plan put in place in coming, the context is very much different than a decade ago. people start to realize nature is no longer a luxury because we like why life, our way places. this is about us in the same way that climate change is about humanity and civilization. losing nature is too bad, is more and more understood by more people than ever before. that gives us
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a fighting chance at the next decade can and shouldn't, will be different. nancy and i will be coming back to you. you're in a major african city. the in nairobi, africa, the african country is, aren't necessarily known for manufacturing very much. it is a continent of biodiversity. you've got deserts in the north of the continent. you've got lush, rain forest type countries across that. so hell heading down towards the southern half of africa. is it particularly acute for the african countries and what are they doing to push back against this? yeah, i think for african rightly said, we are a knitter based economy. most of our economies, most of our livelihoods are actually nature based, biodiversity based. so anything happening to that better diversity as has been happening, the last few years, impacts the livelihoods of every single african. we do not have the manufacturing companies or huge industries. so most of us are reliant on that by the by city. and
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therefore when it fails, then we are looking at failing economy. we also looking at failing nations. and i think we've seen that when we have had a, the extreme events, rain, rain events on the part extreme drought. so this impact on takes us back very, very far in terms of our economy or economy and also a livelihood. and therefore, for us, maybe more importantly than any other continent, it is actually important that they are commitments and actions that are actionable . as you say, the last ticket maybe not much was achieved. actually we are struggling under seeing there isn't enough resources put to ensure that biodiversity actually has its place on the table. like we have had climate change. it should not be an often biodiversity shouldn't be an often it's largely impacted by climate change. and therefore, the decisions that are made probably at climate change, where we have new positions and resources set aside,
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should be much more or equal to what would be put for biodiversity. without it then we are talking of an african that cannot survive. and with a large population, a growing youth population, all of us very dependent on the natural resources. then for us, biodiversity. this is not just a discussion. this is about all i believe. stephan under the chinese leadership over the coming decade or so, i suspect we're going to hear more of the so called 30 times 3030 percent of our land and 30 percent of our oceans need to be protected. how do you square that? however, with the next donald trump, for example, a pros until a prime minister someplace good gets into office saying jobs, jobs, jobs, and all the next discovery of an undiscovered, massive field of oil or gas underneath the coral reefs of australia. how do you stop people exploiting those areas in that kind of scenario?
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um that's a very challenging question. let me be honest. it's not the, um, it's not the of the good chinese government against the, um, against the bad potential u. s. government. i think the choices was a people who are impacted ah, if we see large scale oil. busy gas and cold reserves being currently exploited, currently exploited. if you would carry on was exploitation of only the currently known and currently operating minds, oil fields and gas feels that would be enough to wrap the climate. we do not need new fields. the i will come out very soon on that one. they have set us again in order to save the climate, to protect the world from damage and climate shane per se, effects and turn about a recipe. we need to stop all new or gas and coal development very strongly because we already have too many so even if they explore nuance,
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this is already much too much what we have available to speak for doing this pick conversion and i trust people, i trust frontline communities i trust the communities on the ground in developing countries, but also develop countries at us trust. the people who are wef seen experienced climate change, the droughts, the flux from yahoo, sheer and cbr in summer to people in africa which have seen failures of the harvest. people and latin america. recept seemed going up the, the rain forest and the amazon and flames. et cetera, et cetera. people in the arctic when she, me dwindling of the, of the, of the, of the ice sheets. going my own country in germany. what we have seen on summer, the surrender slots, which killed up to 300 foreigner people just in 2 days and the big destruct that occurred. people get wicking up and they will make happen that this is not happening again and they will make sure i hope, and that's what we're fighting for. that these kind of development is not happy
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that not the new trump is possible. that we will come to a point where we were fighting for so fuel to new development. and we getting more and more support from conventional normal institutions like international energy agency like the i p c. c, like scientific institution that we have a choice to make. and we all benefit from that want to go to renewables. good energy efficiency to pay the forest stefan. i'm going to put on there because i just want to kind of knock that point forward and, and talk to gavin. it was in london the next minute or so. kevin, one of the driving principals heaters that we have got to, to save the planet, but also to save these ecosystems and the species, we have got to have the footprint of production and consumption. everything from non electric cars up to and including, including single use paper, coffee cups, having production consumption on paper. sounds like a really good idea and we can all of course, be the change we want to see. but if you do that,
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doesn't it mean massive unemployment? i'm quite the opposite in fact, and we just put out a study recently which estimated are quite a few 1000000 of 39000000 new jobs could be created in a very short time frame. i by investing in the right technologies in there and, and the right industries over the decade were next. the next decade, world economic forum estimated 3 over 350000000 jobs can be created as well. so there is a clear win win here. ah, it's ok to protect places we have to do that. if you protect a large part of the well 30 percent of the world or for every dollar spent on protection, $5.00 can be returned in economic development as well as so if you couple that with a real rethink about how we say how we send to be using can chew everything from the food week to the plastic, we can chew, et cetera, et cetera. it is possible, it's not only possible, it is absolutely essential as well. and with those kinds of measures committed over
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the next years, we can see instead of nature negative and us losing nature, we can see and nature positive world. if we can couple that are within that 0 world, where emissions are becoming a thing of the past because we're leaving that oil and coal in the ground is stephane single laid out. there are then we do stand a fighting chance at the end of the decade. it is possible and it is good for the economy and it is good local jobs and local employment as well. nancy nairobi, an awful lot of what we're discussing seems to me is about over exploitation of these bio diverse areas, the ecosystems, the species that live in them, that rely, that need to carry on existing within those bio diverse areas. is it possible to exploit these areas, not over exploit them, but exploit them. use them, utilize the minerals, the oil, the gas, whatever that's underneath them, around the near them. but leave them the way they were before humanity went in,
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utilized the resources and then left a good balance on may be a difficult balance because it's not a choice between development and conservation. actually there's no choice there. it is development with conservation. so we are saying we can then develop but develop in a sustainable we, we are critically sensitive areas on this globe. they are critical. what areas where we shouldn't actually be exploring for means also oil. or, you know, any exploration there because these are critical sensitive areas and those needs to be left. and i think when we're talking about a 30 by 30 or an official like that, what we are saying is that the areas which needs to be left. because then the help balance our existence with that of nature. however, when we are looking at investments, we are pushing for sustainable investments, africa, math, develop. but can we do that? can we have investments that are sustainable so that if it is infrastructure,
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it is sustainable infrastructure. if it is areas that need to be left us the why then these areas are left us. they were, we've already lost a lot as africa as the african nations in kenya in many of our nations. but what we are saying is that then this needs to stop. and as we look at that, you indicate for a story on, been restored has been lost, but still develop in a sustainable way. so it is not a choice of one or the other. it is more, you know, a deliberate choice of investments where we also calling upon investors in the banking institutions to also ensure that when they are lending money for investments, then these are sustainable investments, not investments that come to destroy our very biodiversity are very natural capital where most of the africans to rely on. so sustainable investments is what would be calling for from businesses across the globe, stefan in brussels. you were shaking your head as i was asking nancy my ruby. that question. is it your sense that we've got to move from
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a wish list of it'd be really good if we could all the chief us together to a list of must achieve this together? yeah, i mean that is one of the questions we're getting asked very often is. so to what are your 3 key targets you want to achieve? that means we have to drop 50 other targets and it's always the kind of choice of kind of higher causation. we have to do as angie elsa says, those governments have to do the same and it's difficult to do. but let me tell you as a rule of thumb, the rule of thumb is not necessary, although it's a good step forward to protect 30 percent of the land of our oceans, of our land, of, or a safe or from future exploitation. that's a good stop, but in the end where we, we have a 1000000000 people on earth very soon and all we have a growing and needed lifestyle. many people, us the poor in the developing countries and need to grow their, their life little. it's undoubtedly they will have more. busy more,
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more cons consumption, i mean, we cannot, we cannot ignore that when we need to support it and at it's up to the golden horse to reduce its consumption. but then i would argue we need a kind of understanding that we, that we need to not lesson to protect, but to manage sustainably, all lent, all ocean, all lakes or rivers or mountains. otherwise it doesn't work. okay. i think that's a challenge. we have to do because we impact also another crisis. we impact on freshwater and we impact on resource availability. um we impact on solar ocean. we impact on whatever and all is thunder pin by the growing inequality between the rich and the poor. both was in nation and among the events. let's just hop on that point stefan for a 2nd about inequality with coward edwards in london. gavin is part of the problem here that the financing is trickle down top to bottom and the conversation is the other way bottom to top is it's fantastic. of course,
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that job base oss gives $1000000000.00 us dollars to various global climate change organizations. but trickle down financing arguably never works because it's never spent properly in the right places at the right time. and the conversation is going on literally at ground level. that's why, for example, we need to get to a stage where indigenous peoples rights are enshrined in the acts of parliament or the acts of legislation that cover these areas of biodiversity. well, exactly right peter. first of all, if you look at the large intact areas left in the world are high priority to conservation. they overlap very, very heavily with indigenous peoples and local communities. they've been through traditional stewards of these lands. and to this day, they've been a part of ensuring that they are still functioning. ecosystems are so clearly human to his need to be able to be supported and missed their rights need to be respected
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and he attends the conservation. i have to include the free prior informed consent of q in this anakin and any development be tourism. or there are other kinds of development communities after absolutely benefit from those conservation measures as well. there are some, plenty of examples around the world where this is the case, those models do and can work. and so that's one of the areas that needs to be invested in. it's not the only one if you think about the whole need for conservation funding or the post institute estimate about 700000000000 is needed, or actually fund conservation efforts that pays back to the economy in all sorts of ways. whether it's helping to avoid a future pandemic like co 19, or whether it's helping a local community get out of poverty as well. and that funding doesn't just come from the philanthropy of the world, like jeff bezos it comes from governments. a comes through removing subsidies, perverse subsidies, which are right now undermining nature. undermined by for example,
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ensuring the food system is unsustainable, and then happily rewarding farmers for those unsustainable practices as well. that case, the change from governments for the stand the chance on understood thanks about govern in the last minute of the program, nancy coming to you, are you optimistic or pessimistic that we will hit this 30 by 30 target because at the moment i find it astonishing that only 8 percent of our, our oceans on the planet are officially protected. because underneath the surface, there is something that if we lose it, it's gone forever. i choose actually to remain optimistic. i think a fair, the commitment that has been shown by admissions can be actual and then there is actually a lot of hope. i think what a has not been pursued for instance, is this 30 by 30 should also include those areas beyond the duties diction of missions. the deep sees where everybody wants to go in. there will be a big vessels and fish,
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and harvest done to exploit. so if this is also part of the 30 by 30, there is hope, and i think it is doable. and the 30 by 30 should also not be for some countries, but should be taken as a global target, where it's country us all to see. it's all to play in that 30 by 30. but beyond the lance, i think the deep seas also give us an opportunity if we can manage that sustainably . so they actually go by the mean optimistic. nice to finish a depressing conversation on an optimistic note. nancy. thank you so much. we're out of time. thank you to, i guess they were gavin edwards, nancy vega and steph and singer, thank you to, for your company. you can see the show again, be the website out of your dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also draw the conversation on twitter via at ha, inside story from me. peter toby and the entire team here, and our thanks for watching. we will do it again as usual, time tomorrow by ah,
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