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news after that. thanks for watching. ah ah hi, i'm sammy. okay. day on the stream. the mistreatment of asylum seekers in europe. i want you to take a look at this video taken by undercover jonas on the croatia bosnia border so what you are seeing here are refugees being beaten. this technique is used to
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discourage people from entering european union. it's known as pushback, and it is and go in this episode of the stream we ask, is europe abandoning refugees? if you're on youtube right now, the comment section is live, put your thoughts, your comments or questions right here in the chat section. and you 2 could be part of today's episode at the st. ah, as get this conversation started with nicole maslow, to me, you're very welcome to the stream, the co festival. please introduce yourself at low to our international audience. tell them who you are, what you do. hi, my name is nicole figler and i am an investigative journalist working for swiss national television and are together with lighthouse reports on a lot of other european journalists. i published this footage that you just saw last week,
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which what was quite the bus in the you. nice to have you were talk more about la foot in the story than you you and other colleagues and partners put together massimo, nice to see you. welcome to the string. please introduce yourself to audience. hi, nice to see as well. my name is mushroom on one of the i am a deputy director of amnesty europe by regional office. and as i, misty, we have been following the sure for migration and bush backs in the for the past years. but because i have been following the should the ritual in croatia at least for the last 2 and a half years. and i'm very glad this, you know, the bits of your great piece of journalism came out. thank you for making time for us to down the street and can me, you're very welcome to the string. please introduce yourself till i wouldn't hear you are what you day. hi, my name is kimmy lucas. i'm a senior policy analyst at the migration policy teacher here at o thinking base in brussel. and we focused on the analysis of migration and ashley
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policies. as dairy d block here in brussels, i would love all of you guys to talk to me about this assignment, this piece of journalism that so many people put together. but i'm going to start with nicole. what was the assignment? what were you trying to prove? so i've been working on this issue for almost 3 years old already. so it was like for me as a journalist, it was quite hard to see on a daily basis when i was in the field that people are pushed back like every day. very often, very brutally out of the european union into bosnia herzegovina. and on a political level, it is still, they're all still able to deny, say, this are all lies. this is just not happening. well, no one ever showed us any proof. and so we recorded push, facts, went on and on, but what we were never able to record is these really wide and pushback stats are done by masked men. we heard a lot about them there in hidden remote areas. and we also saw the wounds,
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we saw people who is our keys. we saw them beat them up, coming out of the forest, but be burned, able to catch them on a video till this tune when we finally managed to get the video that you just saw before. so we were finally able to prove that these men are existing and that they belong to the creation police that they are lo, enforcement members. and this was a very important step also to prove that they were financed partly by the you, by you and funds. so we had that missing piece that had the evidence, that video. finally, we, you may, will be designing. this is actually happened, happen exactly maxima from a right to human rights perspective. pushback is a legal can you explain to us in what way it is a legal people as i to seek asylum in the country. so, i mean, this is this bit so very simply,
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they are being denied and the possibility of seeking us, i don't mean great. this is in 1st place, you know, but i mean, the, what we see in this picture, i mean, we see brutality of police forces. you know, we see behaviors that there's an armless un, no problems in defining as ill treatment, any sort of on cases, even amount to torture. so yes, that is the push back that is that the prevent people to guide them from sticking there. all right, but then this is happening in a way that goes through, you know, it makes it completely illegal any. can you create another set of human rights alicia, as well? can we, i'm just going to show something here. the title of this video is pushed back using a life raft to way in the g and c. and what we have our refugees in a life raft and they just pushed out to see they're not rescued. they that was speaking the video up so you can see what happened and they just left. so this is this manslaughter says attempted murder. what, what would you say this is kimmy happening here?
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yes, i think what we're seeing is that this practice or not you and, and they've already been last year volition of antonio. that really is, is black books about oh, be a little pushback when we're seeing may be is less and less public and poor. and despite the fact that yes indeed, they're illegal. and on this side of the european commission, and there's been coal for investigation by human, the steed crecia i believe, has already announced that they will do an investigation into the light has report reporting. but we also know that, you know, we should also see that the commission is non do a lot of pressure to deliver on its new practice migration. and assal him especially given the limited progress that has been done in the past years. and so they may refrain from publicly condemning the man, the state ahead of what they see as very sensitive negotiation. i'm just wondering what little violent is right now. my love it back in 2015, we saw
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a migrant crisis and then countries were feeling like we can, we can't handle these migrants. but now we're seeing actual how much quick violence and disgraceful behavior. where are we right now in the psyche of europe and migrants and refugees and asylum seekers? we having a very warding situation. let's. let's be clear about this. i mean, you know what? we see what the police gratian police forces have claimed to do, is trying to practice the 3rd to discourage people from our seeking that i am seeking, as i don't, you know, and this is, this is really, really concerning. at this point. you know them, we spoke, we sort of began about creation. we spoke about the grease, then lighthouse or ball, colorado romanian. but this is a practice that is quite widespread in europe. but the moment that the moment we have, the older people are on the ball and bella was born there. what stack, what about that? i'll it when that then the ball on the north. so, you know, it's,
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it's not as boring. is that it, there isn't, they are all gone off your mind. i stand that see, you know, we are on a slippery slope and this is really what we really would like to make people alert, you know, because we are getting dangers. i think what's really important that we ad nicole is that setting in the creation situation, the people doing that beating our mast. they're not identified. it's not a force that is very open about the work that they are doing. and yet they are funded by the year. tell us more. yeah, i guess what, um, what is that i wanted to to add something on to a to most him. oh, what choked me the most is the normalization of it. like it just became, it just became a daily thing to do and not, you know, as something shocking that happens sometimes. so, and what we see on the creation,
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bosnian border is on the system behind it. so it is, it is organized from the top. we were able to speak to several insiders who work inside the christian police are used to work there. and they told us that they really get a command from the entire ministry directly from machinery to it's the interior minister to proceed with push back to when they find a sad am seekers in their territory to just take them, put them in van. and literally, like, i often get this feeling like human trash, just throw them out of the european union. and this is a, let's say, a governmental order. and what they, they do, they take like these special forces increase or they're mostly a part of the intervention police. they are taught to deal with hooligans to deal with, like, while and football games. so they use their techniques that they've
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learned to a unified hooligans just to throw out migrants out of the you and, and yeah, this was really shocking. also to see it on which level and on which side these practices are, are spread already. i would have bringing a new voice. can the i'm gonna, i'm gonna put this video to you. this is helena hahn. she's a policy analyst european policy center. and she draws a connection between pushback and e u. funding. i would like you to react to the video and tell us what you think, who she is, the recent investigations and to push back to use extra borders are shocking, but in many ways. so do not come as a surprise. and this is because they form part of a larger trend of increasing de turns towards migrants and people seeking international protection. at the same time, it is also a reflection of the fact that the disproportionate burton faced by countries. the 1st arrival is an issue that remains unresolved at the you level. we see this in the new mac negotiations where members states have been unable to find common
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ground and how to best address the situation. looking forward, it seems that a big pressure may not be enough to truly change the practice is on the ground. it is therefore important that there be more transparency in terms of how you funding is used for border control purposes. but also that accountability mechanisms at the national level are improved things and things of the video and helena thoughts, i think on this we, it's an interesting point because this happened just one week are few days after 12 you members state of ask and that you funding couldn't be used, you know, not only, and the 4 civilians purposes but also to build a to be a walls which is not the case at the moment. and so we're seeing this conversation in a way, moving giver for their, of what you funding and a low to do an ice for the monitoring of what you money is spent on. i mean,
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this has been a concern for a number of years and there's been discussion for instance, at the moment on the monitoring of the work of from tx, which we haven't talked about yet. you know, and how do we better monitor the work of these? i didn't see and, you know, had this human right mom fundamental right monitor is that are being deployed the european in parliament as also try to be active on this topic. and so that those are lot of the efforts that are ongoing. i think the difficulties often that the commission may advice or something and then reaching a consensus among all the different human misstate. i remains very difficult given how sensitive this topic has become. i'm, i'm looking here on my laptop at junior amber with his wife and child. they were abandoned in the a g n c. so pushed back at c. nicole, can you tell us about some of the experiences that asylum seekers had had that are now in your reporting?
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i think i'm really sorry. i have a very bad connection at the moment. can you? yeah, yeah. tell us about the experiences of some of the people that you spoke to who, who've been free push back. what's happened to them? what's been done to them? i'm sorry, i cannot hear you at them. all right, we're gonna, we're gonna send you, but we're gonna send you back state. we're going to reconnect with you, ma'am. i know you heard me on that question twice. her go ahead. help me out here. yeah, well, i mean, you know, there's ian is where the road starts this, those piece boiler where to find to reach a grease, you know, but a lot of people who live in greece, i mean very often are held in the, in the islands in very difficult questions, you know, and may have been tried to continue that shortly. so they told me, i mean a lot, they bol companies for law is a continuous. he story off bush backs of trying to cross the border and
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facing the police violence at every board that. so this is what, what is happening. so there. yeah, the images that we see right now. i mean, it is exactly what in the way they, the greek course got out of behaving and this is nothing new. we also need to remember that the same scenes happen at the border between greece and turkey at emerald city in that region. that's where i missed the authors documented about instances. so it's a continuous struggle for people to at, to fade they're facing constantly via things by police forces at that time to see. cuz i learned that the night that i learned that pushed back and they keep insisting said, told me that can last years. in some cases we spoke to people who had been on the old 4 to 3 years. that's, that's happening. satori. yes, is an associate professor and comparative european politics. he's at university of family and he spoke to us just a few hours ago. well, have been seen for some time now in european borders is
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a class between 2 diverging policies. on the one hand, the european union, which is with which it has developed our so called fortress euro policy, where basically they do not want to have any big numbers of him. again, sorry, fuji's or asylum seekers coming into europe. and on the other hand, neighboring countries such as turkey were the one to bob post more migration flows towards europe. and because number one, they want to elevate their own problem button number 2, they can use, it is migration flows as on a gosh, it inducted against some more financial compensation from europe. and so basically we end up having a big number of people caught in the middle between iraq and a hard place where they're trying to cross the border. and being deborah encouraged or helped to cross the border. so what i'm so glass on the little chat is some concern, but i also a lot of antique migrant thoughts right now. maybe mirroring what is happening in europe and he puts my ideas and thoughts team. can me help me out with this one?
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how ms. os, what right or legal case the countries invoke when accused of pushing back my rights i think so far and number of them i've been, i've been denying them. i think i've been denying it and, and i think this is why this investigation or also other mechanism like independent human right monitor ring mechanism are important and, and will need to be establish at moving forward. and what we're single say is like we were invest, i mean the you is invest is bit investing more and more in, you know, protecting you border which in turn put, i think you're up in a vulnerable position because it will never make or border or medic and this someone back fired because these shows a partner enemies that you know, this is a button that they can press on that when they're not happy with a policy or decisions that has been made brussel. and i think that's exactly what we've seen in the case of belarus of what we're seeing regularly was morocco or
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turkey. lastly, just a quick response to glory b who is watching right now on you chief glory says all immigrants need to be vetted. what is the difference between that situation being that it includes terminology and what you are seeing in the way that you of his county dealing with refugees and asylum seekers. i mean people need to be a yoke occasionally to be assess individually. each case needs to be assessed and everybody, if we are taking people, finding them in the forest, putting them in the boss beating them and then sending them across the border. i mean, this is not in the reverse consideration of cases. so, i mean, what is she in is an empty and that the new is just pure bureau violence. you know, this is what we are seeing. what we are seeing is impunity. one thing we need to remember is that, i mean, the pushback in this case is a part of
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a crime because you don't even have the body of the victim, the person, because a person is across the board of that. so the person cannot even go to a normal institution and complain about this, you know, because they either go across the board of that a. so it's really, i mean, you're the dia of the majority device. so i have shown an audience i have sent you pictures from greece, the crow set bosnia border at the picture just beside me here. this is poland to pick one behind me is poland along this bob, why here is lithuania. this multiple countries, multiple countries in europe do not want asylum seekers in their country. i want to take you into the forests of poland, where polish ngo are assisting a group of iraqi men who were hiding in the forest. i want to give you just a little sample of their current lives. i leave that beauty of him. i'm to you and had a saluted volunteer. the final water in our below see the polish border. police
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pushed us back to bel roofs. they didn't beat us, but then again, they didn't give us water and food. we asked for water, but we didn't get any. they pushed us back and said, don't come back here. go back to bell roost on the phone. it had to walk. you mom for you just, i have no idea what will happen to them. i hope that we will succeed very quickly and providing protection application to the european court of human rights, which will protect these migrants if it succeeds. sonya doseover because good to have you back into the conversation. we reached out as a show to authorities in greece and authorities in romania, and we talked about your reporting and the impact reporting and push back. this is what the greece, ministry maritime affairs, an insular policy, toll gas, i'm just going to go right down here to the bottom. as for the 10 dishes allegations of supposed illegal actions, we must emphasize of the operation practices of the greek authorities have never included such actions. even though we showed you video earlier. and we to see
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what's happening with the romanian border police 1st sentence. romanian border police applies a 0 tolerance policy against abuse of any kind applied to migrants. so you did the reporting, it took so long and now you're getting, i was gonna say pushed back about pushback right now. yeah, i mean it's what we are used to. i and this was my, i think florida, a big report about pushback. it was the 1st where we were able to prove that while and she's used on which you units are involved. but it's her yet. it's shocking to me as a person, but also as a journalist that you can bring up, prove, and prove and prove. and there's always this supposedly, or we deny any of, you know, any of these allegations. so it's very clear what is happening here. it's
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a political decision. so the way also people are a to politicians are just closed. their eyes is for me, a way of also completely being complicit like it in between the lines. you always get this feeling as everyone just wants to to be happening. let's just hope it stays in the close forests and no journalists get there and, and, and can see it. so, yeah, we, the, the only thing that, that we, as journalists are left with is just to keep going. and i can tell you, we will keep go and we will be able to prove more and more because they also felt too safe in doing that. and yet, but the rest is politics and not journalism. unfortunately, let me just go to one more voicing to the conversation. guess this is antonius exact case. he is a member of the anti racist initiative of fest salonika. and he talks about addressing the root causes of why asylum seekers are seeking asylum in the 1st
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place. here is also, it is also a kids because this happened more and more bothers in order for this outrageous practice to stop. you don't have to realize. busy that the items, you know, some of the re, a thread are euro, but there are people in need of support. and they installed a new regional, a congress and their 1st base i guess in the closing, in the notes of the show one thought one sentence about. now, what is your needs do about pushback? can me you start? i think maybe i'll go back to point that and that your guess just made on the need to do more in the country the virgin as well. and i think we're seeing
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a lot of discussion in the past few days about humanitarian assistance in afghanistan in country neighboring afghanistan. one puzzle in turkey as well. we know, i mean beyond pushback, we know that the, there's also all this question of like, how can we support people you know, in this country to begin with ok. maxima, yes. i mean it is, it is concern. i mean of people to read them not to leave the house unless that data fade. and this is something that is happening. i me, him, we are, i mean, we need to remember that it's true what the states are saying now, but i mean that day, i think is that the side is that, that, that expects and the professionals, or that needs to happen in compliance with your, my flow, so in all the, these 3, these are not a lack of people. they are states cannot to pick and choose what they like, implement. they need to respect that their, their rights, their become an nicole. yes,
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i can just oh and really go with the point that must just underlined. i mean, for me as a journalist, i love to see that fundamental human rights international laws and national laws are implied again, like that they value something and that you can rely on them. and if a law says something that this person has to write to seek asylum has to write for a fair procedure that this is implemented again and not just a, you know, step with a foot on these things. so this is what i'm hoping for. going to bring in one more voice into this conversation that is the voice of over johansen. she's been reacting from you to some of the downing evidence that we've been talking about in the last 25 minutes. hey, she has these reports. i do that. people are being a victim of violence and i'm still wondering if that is true. it's totally
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unacceptable. and that's why i think it's so important now that this need to be investigated and specially also as a part of this. it's a special part of it. of course, that needs to be investigated. nicole mass mar cammie. thank you so much. thanks for watching everybody. sienna ah and a manager is approaching a tipping point in the lead up to the coff. 26 climate summit. al jazeera showcases programs dedicated to one veiling the realities of the climate emergency witnesses green films documenting the human experience on the front line planet at the wet
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