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ah, this is nobel peace prize has been awarded the 2 journalists, a clear message that press freedom is crucial for peace and democracy. but with journalists increasingly being targeted around the world, how do we protect press freedom? this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program, i'm adrian said again. many governments have been cracking down on journalists and
blocking the flow of information. hundreds of journalists around the world have either been jailed or killed because of their work. but the norwegian nobel committee has just sent a strong message to those, fighting for the freedom of expression. it's awarded this year's nobel peace prize to journalists, maria ressa, the philippines. and dmitri bought it off of russia. russia is the co founder of the rutland news outlet and was recognized the her coverage of president rodrigo to today's controversial campaign against drugs. move off is the editor in chief of the russian newspaper, the boy gazette up at a critic of the kremlin. those journalists have been threatened by their governments in order to silence their publications. it's never been as hard to be a journalist as it is say, this is my 35th year as a journalist and imagine in the philippine government fire can arrest warrants against me in less than 2 years. i've never lived or anything like that. and i guess that, well, if there is justice is an enter,
the die is here, the premier. ah, you put it cost this awarded for anna pork of sky eurasia cook in order eager d'amico as darcy, above rover stuff, markle off natasha as to moreover our fallen colleagues who gave their lives to the profession. i am not the right beneficiary of this prizing, but you may see of us corker, you know, since the nobel peace prize is not awarded post mortem, i believe the invest away for anna to receive this award through other hands. it is my assumption or reporters without borders, says the situation for press freedom is very serious in 73 percent of the 180 countries it surveyed. the group says there's been a dramatic deterioration in access to information. while the pandemic has been used as an excuse to block journalists reporting in the field, norway ranks 1st on the world wide press freedom index while china took manisha on north korea and eritrea are at the bottom. and the number of jailed media workers hit a new high last year with at least 274 journalists in prison around the world. ah
. so let's bring it our panel. our 1st guest is this year's nobel peace prize recipient journalist maria dresser, the seo and executive editor of rapp. lassie joins us from manila. from paris were joined by krist off the law secretary general of reporters without borders and from amman dowd coo tub, a journalist and board member at the international press institute. a warm welcome to you all, maria. we've got to start with you. of course. congratulations again. you have been and continue to be an inspiration to so many people around the world and to us, your colleagues in the world of journalism. now you've had some time to reflect now that the news is, i hope, beginning to sink in. how do you feel? are you going to be able to travel to accept your reward? i don't know. i think i guess that look like i am so thankful that the nobel for
maybe really a spot bladed, what journalists around the world are going through. chris staff knows more than anyone, any we've gone through many things together and bowed. also with id, i also sit on the boy with them. it's just been an extremely difficult time and, and i, i hope that that this will give us all some less. i certainly hope to feel it in the philippines by 1st being allowed to travel as low ducks up that way. i'll clooney your lawyer, said that she sacrifice her own freedom for the rights of journalists all over the world. and i am grateful to the nobel committee for shining a light on her incredible courage. i hope the philippine authorities will now stop persecuting her and other journalists and that this prize helps to protect the press around the world. is this work, or are you going to make your work any easier? are you good, a feel safer or or not what you think that, that by shining a spotlight even more upon your work it, it's actually made your life more dangerous. you know,
i've gone through this already. adrian. i mean, in 2018 in december when time magazine named me as one of the persons of the year looked shamarka shoji had just happened. right. shocked. all journalists around the world. this could happen. and at that one time didn't tell me that i was one of the persons of the year when i saw it on announce i had a like, i felt like i got punched in my stomach because i thought that my life was going to get worse. that i would become targeted even more. and yet what it showed me is that these kinds of instances when there is a brilliant spotlight that they are actually they form a shield. and it allows you to do much more. it allows you to speak much more and what i learned in all of this is that when you have a little bit of that spotlight, just like you know, with amal, for example, i feel like we unravel or have a little flashlight. amal has league lights, the no bell has like, you know, like
a global life. so i hope that, you know, not only will it make it easier for me personally and for wrap load to do our jobs even better than we've done before, but also to help other journalists in similar situations. certainly, that's also, i hope, what happens to the end in russia, i wanted to ask you about about the philippines in particular will will this award impact upon the lives of your colleagues there? will it, will it change? and if you anything for them make that make their professional lives easier. it certainly coming at the right time. it is the tail end of a 6 year term of president to character were walking into elections. our last statistical survey have shown that filipinos feel less afraid to speak. this has been our biggest problem, is that we live in an environment of violence and fear. while that fear is lifting
and we're walking into elections. hopefully, a time when we will see philip more filipinos exercising their rights, and their voices have been a time anytime recently where you felt that this, this just isn't worth it. it's not worth the risk to, to my own personal safety. no, it isn't that crazy. i mean, part of it is because this is my 35th year. as a journalist, you heard me say it right. and i guess at the beginning when the philippine government attacked me and rattler, i was like, this is ridiculous and you just took the step forward and every time it i felt like alice in wonderland falling into the rabbit hole i was i was in disbelief when i was arrested in, in, in february of 2019. i was shocked. like these cases should never even have made it to court. but what i wound up doing is i realized we live in a different world. and that the law can be bent to the point that it's broke. and
so i just, i just held the line. so no, i think the time when you, when you do your job, best is when you are stressed when you are stretched. and when you find out, will you leon? and holding the line? there it is. again, that's what it's all about. christoph autocratic leaders aren't going to change their behavior simply because 2 of their antagonists have been recognized. so publicly about, apart from maria, was talking about shining a light on the issue of press freedom. the dangers facing journalists around the world. is this really going to make any difference to those who are facing harassment, intimidation, threats, and violence in the course of the every day at work. and it will not make everything easy, but it should make things easier for sure. but i, i want to thank you, but you need you to really congratulate and thank a maria for not only for the nobel prize,
and she's really well deserved. and she's a very good choice, but also for all the work she's done for years. as she mentioned 35 years, but as a journalist, as a press freedom fighter, as a breast with activists and or so as somebody who describes perfectly what happens with the information cows. the social networks is a destruction of all writing on potentially democracies on the fact that we have $22.00 addresses. i get back to your question let's have a look. even the kremlin published a positive press release about independent journalist would of consider that it could happen. so it's really obvious that such a price as such as simply but we're that it can help to, to, to promote the cruise of independent john that is important to journalism in front
of despotic regimes or so in front of all those who we can. jeanette is human and democracy including maybe digital platforms and social networks. across of here i am a journalist interviewing 3 other journalists to is there any? is there anything you'd like to ask maria about her? when right now? i wasn't not in the spirit of it. even now yeah, that's actually what i can express, but i hope that we've been working together as, as you mentioned on a many shoes, especially regarding information cows. maria is a key actor of the initiative and information democracy. we try to get there are to impose democratic safeguards in the digital space and i d p o. ready that we will continue to work with maya because what she, she has such an impact on i think that's what she's done until now, which is already credible is just the beginning of something bigger. and so,
and i know now, well, i think so, and i know that she will use the surprise that it will not be on your recognition, but something that she will use to have a leverage effect, a better information ecosystem, a bit of freedom for genetic a bit to safety for john, that is, it's a to right, it's wrong. add a d n a better, right? to re label information for everybody because this is a right for all citizens on human beings. that would, why is this a water important? what message was the nobel committee sending with this award? and does it matter? well, the message is sending is that there is a clear relationship between peace and good journalism and professional journalism . you know, our colleagues who are both colleagues with us at the international breast institute are people who are seeking truth to power. and when you speak truth to
power, you're basically exposing the lives of dictators and journalism. one is done right on is that professionally, as we've seen in our college, it can be a very strong tool for peace. so this is a peace prize, but it shows that the teachers are, you know, the opposite of these and the journalism and truth in journalism. professional journalism is what is the antidote for the lots of leaders who are using the power. there are at present or dictators, megalomaniac leaders who are telling lies to their people. so a speaking truth to power and i think they're well deserved. and it's a very strong message for peace. and what about journalists who find themselves currently imprisoned because of their work, particularly in the arab world? what message does this war send to regimes who routinely imprisoned journalist?
it's a powerful message. you know, we had the vendor and documents the other day and we had a hard time publishing it in our own country because of the repression of governments. and this kind of friday gives a lot of strength and courage to people who are willing to take risks and, and go out and tell the truth. so it's a fabulous day price for the. busy it was deserve, but it's also a message to all journalist and all leaders and government officials that they are going to be in big trouble if they continue to repress the media. now, one price is not going to change things, but i think it's a strong message. maria, where does journalism stand in the link between peace and truth and, and freedom of expression given the disinformation threatens piece. what's our role as, as journalists with regards to, to this information? so the crazy part is, this is something i've been saying for 5 years tray in 2016. i demanded.
rattler demanded accountability from an end to impunity from president to chair desk drunk or. and mike sucker, birds, facebook. and this is the biggest problem i think you talked about this length. the distribution platforms for news today is no longer in the hands of journalists. we lost our di keeping powers technology, technology platforms now distribute the news. and the biggest problem is a platform like facebook, the world's largest distributor for news globally, actually prioritizes the spread of lies, least with anger and hate. it spreads it faster and further than facts. so you can say that the platforms that distribute the social media platforms, or distribute news are biased against facts and they're biased against journals. what happens to a world without facts? you don't have a shared reality. it's like a company, right?
and that's exactly what we have right now. when facts and lies are, are identical when algorithms distribute the lies further and faster. here's the last part. there met narratives. how were a geopolitical power or seeding met narratives in our information ecosystem. and those met narratives, gain, change the way people think, what they think and how they behave. so for example, up in january 6 in the united states like this is findings by, by a group of academics in the us. what they found is that the better narrative for stop the seal that led to the capitol hill violence was seated a year earlier on russia today, an r t, and then picked up by steve bowden on you tube, spread in, in closed groups, then picked up by fox, tucker, carlson, and then finally to and on. and then it came cut down from president trump. it's
the same thing that has happened in the philippines in terms of the meta narrative of journalist equals criminal. this is the world we live in today. our shag reality is torn apart and we're off in a matrix type world. what the journalists do, in best, we have to keep doing our jobs even as we demand accountability from these platforms . christopher, i do shit. i mean, obviously if you share that, that concern about as not just also it's not just authoritarian regimes. here we're talking about non state actors as well, who muddy the waters and spread dis, information and, and, and propaganda. i mean that, that is a serious threat. isn't it to, to peace and freedom of expression? yes, because and genetic jimmy is about facts. i mean, johnny's the mercy of the name. and when you a fax, you may disagree and of course,
fax will never abolish these increments. but at least you can agree on these agreements. you can talk when you lose the notion of facts when just the you just don't space the way it is organized, amplifies just pure patient. just a amplifies lies amplifies just an earth. so suits an 8 speech, destroys a significant cort. remorse can need to worse we need, we know from these treat that some media. i know genetic media, media in the past the could just lead to worse in case a. there's a or just spread propaganda or, or, or, or lies, or, or, or a speech and we heart and it's such a period where really we have to find ways to secure
a digital space where we can have a peaceful, public debate and generating as a very important contribution to walk through this diet. ok, i'll come to you just a 2nd professional. just throw that back to maria. how. how do we, how do we do that though? how do we ensure this, this free exchange of ideas, this, this freedom of expression. but sticking to the facts, not spreading, this information is embodied and into law around the world. yeah, i think the 1st is that the old power government states at le, let me, let me say this way. the biggest crisis were facing was actually stated by a biologist. an american biologist eel wilson said that we're facing paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology. the technology has been allowed to run rampant. the institutions are just catching up. you're seeing what the facebook whistleblower
francis hogan had told to the u. s. senate committee a lot on chip last week. and then the last part is this godlike technology. so i think the 1st step is regulations, right? and they, the platforms do say they want regulations, the state have got to go that at which state are you going to want to have regulation? this is where i think christoph and the forum and information and democracy is moving ahead to look for multilateral solutions. we have to look at this time period and very similar to what happened post hiroshima after world war 2. when the world looked, looked in shock at what humanity had done to itself, they all came together. and, and what happened? you had bretton woods you had made. oh, you had the universal declaration of human rights and you had the un. this is another one of those moments, and i think, you know, the, the nobel committee actually showed you how important information is our
information ecosystem has had an atom bomb explode, and it is insidiously contained, insidiously manipulate us. this isn't gonna take one nation or one company part of our problems in the philippines. these legal cases were enabled by the information operations on social media that those algorithms empowered. right? so we can't have integrity of elections in our may 2022 presidential elections. unless the platforms voluntarily allow facts to surface. or gar grills or put around tech doubt. are we at a pivotal moment? where do you see the, the threats not just a mock proceed to democracy to day but, but to, to peace and freedom of expression. well, we are at a very important point because their social media is gone crazy and. ready everybody now has access to information and i think we can differentiate between
light and truth. again, friendship between fake news and real nose. and if we. ready can show that journalism does make a difference, that i think we will all be lost and will not be with you. but all of us will be lost because that out for those who are on have the money hold the guns and who controls and many errors. ready will determine our future and i hope it is a journey point towards good journalism. good, honest journalism and the truth because the truth is, the antidote of a lot of the teachers around the world. maria a few days ago on, on its i saw a we were talking about the facebook whistleblower who gave testimony r last week in a, in a washington post opinion piece near the younger which says that while the award your award is a victory for free expression and a reminder of the critical role of the 4th state and the role that it plays and upholding democracy. it's also a huge blow to facebook, which you've described as tainting the entire public sphere by allowing lies to get
on the the same. playing field is fact is, is your reward a blow to facebook? i would say to laure, the social media platforms, to, at these american companies that have failed to guard the public sphere loc. it's, it's okay. you can take away the gatekeeping powers from journalists. you can take the money, that's the other part we haven't talked to. all right. advertising for news organizations have collapse on the very and have gone to the very same platforms that are used to attack us. but you cannot abdicate responsibility for the public sphere. we're frenemy facebook and i because i do think they're part of the future and they should stop dragging their heels. they should embrace that. they must differentiate between fact and fiction and change those algorithms . crystal, you agree with up?
sure. and we, and i think democratic institutions, democratic decision makers, i have to take the risk and see what it is. we cannot accept any longer. that digital platforms just passed loose and i took the norms of the digital space without any democratic control. the question is now how which type of responsibilities until he's exactly what we were a working group of the foreman information democracy, co chaired by mafia on maggie at the shack. it issue 250 very concrete recommendations. now we have to implement it. ok, i'm afraid we're out of time. many. thanks indeed to all of you, maria. congratulations. once again. ah chris off to la and donald cartoon, but thank you for being with us. as always. thank you for watching the program. don't forget you can see it again. at any time, but just by going to the website, i'll just hear a dot com for further discussion. jonas, that our facebook page,
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