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toward the vacant government step outside the mainstream. the has been a implement here some of access points that shift the focus. the panoramic that's turned out to be a handy little prefect. the prime minister clamped down on the press covering the waves. the news is covered. the listening post on jazz ah, i'm robinson until the top stories on the altar. 0, frances recalling it. some basset is to the us and a straight up after what is calling a stab in the back. france is angry after us. really. i cancelled a multi 1000000000 dollar submarine trying to enter a military alliance with the u. s. and the u. k. rory challenge has more from london recalling ambassadors in the carefully coded language of diplomatic
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relations is, is a pretty serious move. it's not the breaking off of diplomatic relations, but it's what you do, what you want to show to a country that you really are not happy with the way it's behaved. and let's not forget that france is the united states oldest allies, allies, a relationship that goes back to 1778 when france recognize the independence of these breakaway colonial states. and help them in that war of independence against the british. the us military is admitted, a drone strike and i've kind of stands capital. last month's killed civilians instead of ice will fighters and galico reports reduced to twisted smoldering wreckage. this is the cause. the us military deems an imminent threat on august the 29th west of cobbles, international airport, us intelligence officials say the vehicle was monitored for 8 hours, suspected of picking up explosives and seen at an eyesore k compound. now one of
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the us military's find elections of the 20 is enough, ganeth done, has been called a tragic mistake. let me thoroughly review the findings of the investigation in the supporting analysis by interagency partners. i am now convinced that as many as 10 civilians, including up to 7 children, were tragically killed in that strike. moreover, we now assess that it is unlikely that the vehicle and those who died were associated with isis, or were a direct threat to us for the us. drone strike happened just days after attacking cobbles, airport killed at least a $170.00 afghans and 13 us troops and mid frenzied evacuation efforts. initially, us officials called the strike, a righteous blow against specific threats to the u. s. military. now they've admitted to killing us a work at the murray, marty, and 9 members of his extended family, 7 of the victims with children, the youngest, just 2 years old on i've heard you say for america to
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time and here the husk, david, things with me. i am ready to respond to dame members of the party family had been planning to relocate to the us to start new lives. now they say they're living under a cloud of suspicion and fear. the u. s. military says it will launch an investigation into the drone strike. but the loss of innocent lies now calls into question the u . s. his ability to carry out operations and strikes remotely, a key part of the policy towards i've got a son now that us troops have withdrawn. so cold us over the horizon military strikes already have a checkered past implications expert say will have serious consequences enough gannons done in the past. the u. s. had an extensive presence with lots of local partners, the afghan government and its various subsidiaries. but that's not the case anymore,
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so that this remains to be seen as to how the united states will be able to conduct operations as if dennis time begins. it's next difficult chapter. one of the last acts of the us military will leave a dark stain on an already chaotic us exit. to gala carl d 0. washington get his military leaders say they will not bow to international pressure to lead detained. president alpha, monday, fly into exile. the west african regional block a was expelled guinea after candy was overthrown during the military takeover. earlier this month, adria longer serving president tabula he's both, has died the age of $84.00. he struggled with health issues for years after having a stroke. us media reports say the barton administration's planning the must be partition of thousands of haitian migrants who bought a town in texas. most of the migrants is saying it a make shift count and a bridge in dover. you. those are the headlines. the news continues here on the 0
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after the bottom life, goodbye. ah hi, i'm steve clemens and i have a question. if america held up a mirror to itself, what would it see? let's get to the bottom line. ah, for literally billions of people, america still represents a land of opportunities where anyone can build themselves up, find success, increase tomorrow, it's better and with a higher quality of life for their children. many see america is a bashing of freedom where you can just believe whatever you want to believe. but once you scratch beneath that surface, you'll find a nation full of contradictions about opportunity, where the divides on race and income and basic opportunity have really widened. on the one hand, america is a huge empire with soldiers deployed in
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a $150.00 countries. sometimes in the name of global security and sometimes in the name of transforming the culture and norms of other societies. but on the other hand, there are places in america where kids having actually go to the parking lots of a mcdonald's restaurant to get a decent internet connection to attend school. this empire also can't get millions of its own citizens to believe in public health measures. to protect themselves and their neighbors, like wearing a mask. and let's not forget the rejection of the election results and the assault on the united states capital just a few months ago. so is this an empire of contradictions? well, today we're talking to someone who has been holding a mirror to american society for years and years saying, look, this is you. he is way. dave is professor of anthropology at the university of british columbia in canada, and national geographic explorer and residence. when you put that mirror up to america, what are you seeing and what should we be seeing about ourselves? well, that, that s a c was written really at the kind of the, in a sense,
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a low point of cove. it a place where new york streets for filling with the dead and we really didn't know what this is about or where was going to end. or if it was gonna. and remember, when i wrote that piece, i think it came out in august of 2020, at the time vaccines were a distant promise on the horizon at that time, the 1st vaccine ever to be developed quickly was for the mumps. and that had taken for years. so at the time, vaccines did not seem to be imminent. and what did seem to appear was a kind of failure of americans to sort of see what had become of them, which seemed to me to be the 1st step. you know, this, this nation that emerged from world war 2, not just economically dominant, but in the sense, morally dominant with an level of ass, once that allowed for the creation of the weekend. the creation of middle class, a world in which a working man could, you know, wife could stay at home and go off to work and create a middle class wage by
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a host, by a car, send his kids, good public schools and so on. and. and that kind of illusion of america is simply no longer existed. as we entered this new century, the disparity between rich and poor salaries for the rich incomes and security. for the poor, you could go down almost any kind of in the sea of social development domestically and the scenario did not look good. and on top of everything internationally, you had a strange situation where this quite aggressive nation in terms of geo politics, china, with its own, you knew the history was not going to war. i mean, china hadn't gone to war since 900 seventy's america really had minute pieces in 1900 seventy's every 3 years. china was poor in more cement than america did in the whole 20th century. and the, these wars were bleeding treasure that could have readily gone into increasing the
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infrastructure of home. and i think this, this, this connect, of course, was creating social dislocation, even psychological, dislocation, and accentuating this chasm between the has and the have nots. but also between the 2 political parties and all of this was becoming a kind of perfect storm during the birth of the era of the internet, the democratization of opinion. you know, the extraordinary fact that people can get online anonymously, say whatever they want. and, and believe that their opinions value, remember that senator patrick morning, hand famously said that, you know, you're entitled to your opinions but not your own facts. but what we saw in the air of disinformation and both and polarity. what was the creation of new facts you know, and that is never good for democracy. well, let me ask you this way. what i found fascinating about your essay,
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which if i had written it, i would be accused, as you have been of treason, i mean, you're in canada, but of treason against the state of, of being unpatriotic and unsupportive of america as opposed to looking realistically. so i guess my question is, what do you think it is about the american psyche and it's, and it's place in the world that it seems unable or unwilling to just take stock of the fact that it needs to sort through things to get back into a place where the driving itself in the future as opposed to just being a victim of circumstances that makes sense. yeah, i mean, 1st of all, i think since that piece of mind came out, steve, we should acknowledge one thing which i was not able to acknowledge in that, that piece. and you may have seen the quip or, or the name going around the internet. you know, china gave us cove it american kid, gave the world vaccines and let's not forget that the develop into is multiple
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vaccines and such short order. not just represents the, the most extraordinary achievement of modern science, but also spearheaded by ingenuity that clearly was, was rooted in the american scientific community and corporate community in terms of the major companies that rallied to make this possible in such short order. don't forget that the, you know, the woman who, who really how to use r n a in the application as, as a, did you want to nobel prize me just this wonderful woman in from an american university. right? so, so at the same time in that piece, i kind of with a little bit overly proud of my country of canada, which at the time i wrote that had done exceptionally well with cool that well, of course, like all nations is proven to be more complicated more cases, more mortality and so on. i think in general, canada did
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a better job because we really are a society of conciliatory, of cooperation. you know, we, we don't celebrate the individual at the exclusion of the, of the, of the collective of the community. you know, we, we don't have a health care system which favors the wealthy. we certainly don't have hospitals where the private owners of the hospitals treat hospital beds almost as of rental properties. you know, there's a, there's a fundamental difference in a nation that is the social democracy in which it is taken as a given that public education, that good universal health care are virtually human rights. and that just isn't part of the american mythos. and some of this just comes out of the energy of america, which is what makes it gray, you know, in the, in the wake of world war 2. in particular, we celebrated the individual still with iconic intensity. but that was kind of the
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socio logical right in the splitting the adam. and so, so part of this is just america bank, part of this is just see the challenge of change america. think about america went into world war 2, demilitarised. bulgarian portugal have bigger armies. within 3 years we had 15000000 men and women in uniform. we had individual factories in detroit that made more tanks and the entire german reich. for every 5 pounds of equipment the japanese got per capita to a frontline soldier, we got 2 tons and across 13000 kilometers of open ocean, an american merge from the war with the rest of the world prostrate. right? and so in $945.00 we made now $46.00. once we went back and automated the old manufacturing, we made 95 percent of the world's automobiles. and so, with that kind of ascendency came in, it inevitably, a certain amount of pride and hubris. and it's difficult to back off from think of
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the british empire. it's surprising to remember that the british empire actually reached its greatest geographical extent as late as 935. well, of course, now we know that that empire was in, in retreat if you will, by the diamonds you believe was certainly bled white in the fields of flanders in world war, in world war one. and by 935, even as more of the world's map was painted red. the nation was utterly impotent against the rise of, of fascism in nazi germany. and so, you know, history history plays with a short dec, i know all and are born to fall and none of them in dissipate their minds. but i find also that you said that canada, in your writing, canada, is sort of like living in a condominium above a math lab and kind of looking at, you know, i know that this is fair and the drugs in america, you know,
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go ahead. yeah, i mean this, see that i have to confess. i didn't know at the time i, i pinch that line from robin williams. it was why i just got a live robin. the robin was a friend in the robin. the said one of the comedy routines that living in america in canada is i live in an apartment above a mess lab. but you know, you know, it is, it is funny for us in, in canada, i think, or at any social democracy. we don't get me wrong. i love the united states. don't forget. i chose to become american citizen as well. i married an american, i kids are americans. my father in law was almost us president. my brother in law was a us senator my, my son in laws serving on active duty in, in the navy right now in the united states. my, my nephew was machine gunner grunt in the marines and afghanistan. so it's not like i feel disconnected or in any way cynical about ignited states. my life was made
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possible by the united states in the years that i spent at harvard, you know, this was an incredible gift to me as a foreigner. so don't get me wrong. no one is, is less interested in the demise of america than i am. and believe me when china, if it is indeed ascendant with its ethnic policy, it's domestic surveillance. it's treatment of minorities such as ers. i mean, if china is a send and i suspect will all be in the style g for the so called american century . but this said, as we look at the united states, for example, and realize that in any one given year, you know, by, by about the month of april there been more fatalities due to, and guns americans shoot each other than occurred in, in the 1st month of the normandy campaign in world war 2. we see these policies that seem designed to tear people apart. we seats a kind of demagoguery and you know, you also see, i hate to say,
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we do see the fact that whether we like it or not in a sense, race, is the story of america. you know, this is something an american journalist told me when i was an assignment of national geographic. we went over after $911.00. we wanted to do a story on the beauty of islam. because there was so much anti muslim demagoguery. and while we're in the desert of the sahara, my friends said, you know, races, stories, american, at the time, i didn't think it to be so simple. but now, i've kind of wondered, you know, and you know, the reality is that the racial divide is based on slavery. go back to the very birth of america. there was no north and south mean new york was built by slaves. wall street is name for the wall that went around the slave market. you know, benjamin franklin own slaves. i mean, you know, one of the big differences between canada and the united states that are founding
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father if you will. john mcdonald didn't, didn't have a bunch of wooden dentures in his handsome face. that contained human ivory ripped 19 from the mouth of his living slaves. but george washington did, you know, are for the founding fathers, unlike jefferson, did not mortgage 140 of their slaves with the dutch bank to build their palatial home at monticello. madison famously, as he wrote the the constitution complained that in order to get books off the ships from london essential to his work, he had to sell a slave. we've been in the family for all of his life. i mean, benjamin franklin, even as he published some of the 1st tracks, calling in the question and celebrating the about abolitionists agenda. he himself owned 3 slaves, including a woman college of mine. so in other words, this is in a, the story of america. i mean, robert
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e lee heralded as the great general which she was of the america a southern cause was also by definition a traitor to his country who even in the wake of the war, condoned the click, the k k. k. on, on, on the campus of what became washington and lee university. he was a white supremacy to the core. the civil war was not, as is often been said by someone i admire like the monkey was shelby foot speaking to ken burns, in that famous civil war. series, it was never about states, rights was always and exclusively, essentially about slavery. and so this is, this is sort of, you know, occurred to me just before he died. martin luther king wrote a beautiful piece about canada because he was given some lectures here and he said, you know, canada was the north star, our negro spirituals, road encoded messages on how you could actually get north on the railroad to
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freedom in canada. canada is a perfect place in terms of race and certainly in terms of our history with indigenous people, the 1st nations, but we never were a society built on slavery. and that is, in some sense the inherent contradiction to the american experience, the country, the birth freedom and democracy through the lens of the enlightenment. at the same time was living with that seed and wound which was that their entire economy was built on the atrocity of slavery, torture with greece of the end of the american economy. wade. you talk about robert lee and slavery in a, in another wonderful essay that i'll tell our readers about called this is america . a promissory note, not yet paid. you talk about robert e lee, but we now just saw in charlottesville, just very recently, the great statue of robert lee taken down. also in richmond, virginia, the statue that dominated the, you know,
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the main boulevard. taken down and chopped up and shipped off so they can figure out what to do about it in your peace. you quote james baldwin, who is, who has an optimism about the future. but he says, we can have, you know, essentially rose tinted glasses looking at things we need to see things how they are. so i guess, as we're talking about essentially, america unraveling in good ways and having that discussion. what are you seeing by way of, of, i won't call it a bounce back because i'm not sure that's what we deserve or want. but essentially, a more informed, more enlightened, less dysfunctional or domestic context in america. and maybe unraveling the american empire with the rest of the world is a healthy thing. mean, so how do you see the potential next steps? well, that's a very interesting point you raise. i mean, on the one hand, i think those of us who have some trepidation about the ascendancy of china for obvious reasons,
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which are not racist. reasons are simply about the political system. not about the chinese people, per se. would be concerned about the demise of america. on the other hand, of course, empires have come and gone. i mean, i love the image, for example, of the collapse of the roman empire. and so the italians kind of looked around and said, well, we're not going to do that again. why don't we have fun before you know, you've got the div, which is the italian essence, right? great food, great films, great beauty, whatever, you know. and so, in other words, here is a sort of transition that does happen in, in history. but, you know, the, i think we also have to remember that, that great line of lincoln's, can we not find the better angels of our nature. and my experience with americans is that there remains in a way that you might not recognize from the media a great middle way. and that's sort of what the dalai lama always speaks about. the middle way, which is, as i've gotten older, steve seems to make more and more sense seems to be more and more wise,
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something my father told me, and you know the polarization of america. but i really do believe that there's a big middle of america, not in the next sony incense of the middle america, you know, utilized a sort of exploit hatred and fear, but rather a true ground of good, decent people inspired by the very best of, of, of what their country has been and what it can be, and i think, i think frankly, for all the way that we like to and are almost called upon to criticize the follies of american foreign policy. you know, i, when 911 happened, i wrote a long, broad sheet called toward a global declaration of interdependence. and it was published, pull out an alternate, our nation paper and canada was picked up in europe. reprinted all over the world. the one place that it would not be printed was the united states because what it really called for was for us to understand the fundamental elements of the
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challenge of, of, of, of inequity in the world. but also what is really going on in the middle east. right. and it was neither pro israel or pro palestinian. it was simply, we have to recognize that there are forces at work here. there are reasons to be, quote, unquote aided, if you will. well, you know, obviously no american with touch but, but, but the thing is that i think for the sake of the world in the short term, it's hard to see whatever country might be in line to displace america in terms of international dominance that i'd, i'd want to be living in you know, it's a fascinating thing to sort of look and posit the future and, you know, i sort of feel as if we are changing. we're an inflection point and don't know what's coming next. i'll also tell you that in 2016 i interviewed then vice
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president joe biden about the domestic political scene in america. and he said to me that the democratic party had become a party of snobs. and that where they did not feel what was happening, the people on the street that had lost their jobs in the financial crisis that were struggling over race and identity and drugs in opioids, etc. and that we were getting a lot of this wrong. and i just love, you know, from your, i know that you're deeply ingrained in america and a lot of friends, but you also have a kind of off short perspective. how do you look at biden, in his approach so far? is he solving this not problem? or do you suspect that this is going to take much, much more work and work through for us to get into a different place? i think he was right on point with those comments. you know, whether he's been able to deal with it. he's only been in office for a while and he's been overwhelmed by the debacle in kabul. i mean, i think i, i think that, you know, the, the retreat, the abandonment in the sense of afghanistan was his cat as
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a cataclysmic if and uninterrupted as that from saigon in 1975. but in defense of biden, i suppose how else where they're going to ever get out. and i think it was never going to be pretty. and inevitably, whether they like it or not, they're going to leave countless people behind who would undoubtedly become victims of the of the taliban. or in the case of south vietnamese vietnam, of the, of the viet cong in the north. and me is so, but it's business of snobbery. i think it's true. i mean, i think, you know, i think a big part. i mean, i think the trump cohort, if you will, the supporters were not nearly as monolithic as they were often depicted as, as they were reduced to caricature. there is something on the left,
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particularly in the sort of woke orthodoxy that is particularly infected. the universities were all words walk on egg shells and there's a kind of a almost tear radical orthodoxy of opinion. that if you deviate from you are not only wrong, you are demonized. and this is, i'm not a university professor. i can, i can say that this is not hyperbole, i'm not exaggerating. and i think i think that, that kind of, that conceit, the anticipation of, you know, social engineering based on their values alone. the ology of the left i think, can be as offensive to people as the, as a kind of intolerance of the right. and that's, that's where we have to somehow find a way to the middle in terms of balance and understanding and some kind of recognition that if we're going to move our way forward,
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we have to understand that on any issue of public policy, there cannot be enemies there can only be solutions, i have to say that i'm just very grateful for a real discussion with real terms, that's candid and not as control. so i want to just say thank you very much way davis anthropologist, botanist photographer author, explore in residence. thank you so much for being with us today. thank you very much, steve. so what's the bottom line? my guess is not the 1st to predict that the american empire and the american dream are fading. what is happening is that american identity at home and abroad are being sorted out, but don't be so quick to dismiss america. ultimately, the mix of cultures with diverse backgrounds and experiences is a huge strength that most other nations don't have in working through it's racism. and the gap between rich and poor, the united states may come back, ultimately healthier, and less dysfunctional after cove. it, i don't want to sound like a pollyanna, but the soul searching that america is experiencing right now may just be a driver,
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a positive change. and that's the bottom line. ah, it's one of the world's most powerful and dangerous criminal enterprises. central to the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of people. and behind the death of many more. exceptional access to some of its key players reveals the inner workings of an organization telling the name to many as the blood alliance. inside the sin, a la carte house part 2 of a 2 part investigation, people and power on al jazeera. there's a wave of sentiment around the world. you will actually want accountability from the people who are running their countries. and i think often people's voice is not heard because it's not part of the mainstream news narrative. obviously we cover
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the big stories and report on the big events going on, but we will say will tell a story that people generally don't have a voice. i mean, whenever chance, never be afraid to hang up and ask a question. and i think that's what they were when he does, we all the questions for people who should be accountable. and also we get people to give their view of what's going on. ah, i'm all back into the top stories on al jazeera opponents of trinity, as president guy said, of taken to the streets and the 1st demonstration, after what they say was an organized qu, lizzie, as powerful labor union, and the biggest party in parliament oppose any attempt by the president to suspend the constitution, i said took control of the government and dismissed the prime minister in july. and frances, recalling its baset as to the us and a strange,
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