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should be an exact 5050 split, so the very came to push these new sport. one of the, the picture back from see for these games where the skate part for example, is sets up right in the middle of time with the expectation that lots of young phones could go there and watch this sports. and of course that doing it all in front of, of empty seats. we mentioned that the high phone that's on its way already that caused the cancellation of a couple of days of rowing if they preempt the, the impacts that we'll have. but the surface is saying that quite happy because it may well produce some big away to them. i take a look at the headlines here now. just see right now, typhoon in far is hitting heavily populated regions of east in china. it comes days after flooding for the 1000000 people from the homes and killed at least 58 thousands of people have been moved to emergency shelters. the typhoon has also hit
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taiwan, causing major damage in some areas. when gus reached 191 kilometers and now even though the eye of the storm stayed more than 300 kilometers out to sea, afghans of ended the 1st night of a curfew over the 3 of the countries, 34 provinces will be subject to new restrictions the army is trying to hold the taliban advance, which has seen the group make large territorial gains. us defense secretary lloyd austin says he believes staff can government plans to consolidate security forces and major cities could help quell the taliban search. and i think the 1st thing to do is to make sure that they can slow the momentum and then, and then be able to put themselves in a position where they can re take some of the games that the pallet on that some of the ground that they've lost so i think, i think from my engagements with the afghan leadership,
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they are committed to that and. and so we look forward to, to them making progress, they have, they have the capabilities, i have a capacity to, to make progress and to and to really began to block some of the taliban advances. kirk, he says 2 of its soldiers have been killed and 2 others wounded in northern syria. the vehicle was attacked in the bab area. the defense ministry says turkish forces immediately fired back. russia is putting on his annual show of naval strength, is displaying a state of the art war ships, submarines, and weaponry in a parade on the never river. and since petersburg, i am in the gulf of finland, president vladimir putin, is that the event those headlines. the news continues also talk to al jazeera teaching. you can watch the english streaming lied,
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and i gives you channels plus thousands of our programs award winning documentaries . and you get to choose to scribe you choose dot com, forward slash al jazeera english the the people of a fun have seen turmoil in conflict for much of the past 40 years given by internal divisions and foreign interests. the soviet invaded in the late 1970. the taliban rose to power in the 1990 s. and then there was the u. s. envision in 2001 . 20 years on the americans are still there. and by the has promised, the mission will finally end on august the 31st vivian elections and initiatives aimed at bringing peace and stability to understand. but without success. after
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years of trying to facilitate political reconciliation between the taliban and government, united states and other countries, the us sign an agreement with the taliban in dover to withdraw its troops. in exchange, the taliban agreed not to support any of the on groups or attacking the forces or the allies. but after years of conflict with civilians, very often the victims are the different sides within have gone to stand ready to move forward. we've been quite flexible. tolerance since these talk we have a new generation of african who had never experience the language. so we need to be adaptable to, to this new young generation of half a day for the sooner we stop fighting the sooner we concentrate the focus in reaching a deal where international community egan, for us to work together and to reach
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a compromise with us troops gone by the end of august of understand affairs we have to be solved internally can be overcome the wounds left by years of disagreement and victory and division. after months of in truck on talks, have they built trust about the taking $193.00 districts that we have taken during the past 28 months and it's not by military force? year 40 the carbon immunization courses have joined us because they are fed up with the piping and also the slow progress in the peace process. but we are painting our fin not taking once again, both sides met at the negotiation table in dover. and that's where we caught up with the chief of the high council for national reconciliation of the lab dollar talks to out there. ah, doctor of the la gibbon,
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how council for national reconciliation. thank you very much for talking to us there. you're welcome. it's been 48 hours since you've been in doha. we last met 10 months ago, described to us what has happened in the last 10 months, and how closer are africans to finding peace. i can say that to begin with that it was a real 48 hours and to yes, from a finest on the delegation. from senior leadership of upon the stand. we're here together with us. and to the idea behind this was that be, become here and but his entire unified view and support the piece because the choice is not between one side overtaking militarily and then there will be peace. but it is between that scenario which will not lead to peace,
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which will lead to the front innovation of the war for many, many, many years to come and further complication of the situation and the potential civil war and all of that involvement of other countries. and between in an inclusive peaceful settlement. so we came here to present us unified to be that to get it's, this is deborah trinity to seize it and to capitalize on it. and of course, pete piece will not materialize overnight, but to, to, to give them not assurance that we are serious, worse and save. meanwhile, to assure them that there will be no military solution. and insisting on a military solution will lead to, to the continuation of the suffering. i thought people, it was an opportunity to know one another better because in the live
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situations with the beginning in the collision of the talks, we had on the specie from both sides. and then later on there was an opportunity for me in moscow, but that was a shot at a port unity and in between the delegations have met in different nuts. so it was important for us now i have much, much more clarity in my mind. and also daisha that they should be very clear about our positions. and i see there are a lot of common points which need to wish me to work on it. speaking to you, you are always an optimist about the success of dialogue and negotiations. but 10 minutes have passed in trying to know each other. the positions that both sides had for each other remained almost the same. what gives you hope that there
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is going to be peace because the situation on the ground seems to be pointing otherwise. all the, the reason for us coming here was not to present our position and say the take it to leave it at the i'm not commenting on there to to defer. i didn't lock with dish, but this was not odd had to be. so we came here to tell them that piece is difficult, more difficult than war. and we are here with flexibility to, to find common grounds. and then, and in india, move on towards a peaceful settlement. and also, if there is any illusion such as that one side can win militarily, we argued that this was not going to happen. yes, of course, personally as a person would share it. now i have this responsibility. but apart from that,
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which has been drawn there in beauty, the was in, at least in the past 36 years of my life i've been involved in the politics of are fighting f, harness on one another. so you were the defense minister in 1996. i was the spokesperson for the defense ministry. and later on i was, i was the chief of staff for that minute stuff defense and also the spokesperson for the ministry of defense and later, and diminished up on our face in earlier indeed is essence into how they get the soviets. so they took up, she had a provision if i wanted to see the continuation of suffering of our people to see the counties which we helped to achieve. peace like tajikistan. honda son was instrumental and to in achieving that settlement between between
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2 sites, integer to start and to see the develop developed and to see the opportunities which out of that for the people of afghanistan and for the region. and we cannot utilize it because of the continuation of the was it has this appointed one day more as one missed one more mr. port unity. but it takes what sites it cannot happen with the goodwill in intention of one site. that's what i was going to come towards because it takes 2 parties to reach. so you say that you have presented the options military, the military solution is not viable. it will not in peace. but the situation on the ground is that the taliban are making advances. they've taken no more than $200.00 out of the $400.00 districts and have gone this done their surrounding population centers and prevention capitals. and this seemed to have not moved from the demands whether it was the release of prisoners, whether it was the listing from the u. n. list. so many people are left wondering
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than what is the point in talking and including people from your side and who have been asking this question that, you know, we've been at the same place for the last 10 months. unfortunately, the negotiations was the start of it was, it was a good point that the fact that we were head and we started negotiations after many, many years of fighting with one another. that was, that was good. that is the good part in the fact that the door for the negotiations is not, is not shut at the moment. that's also important. in spite of the differences, as in spite of white gaps which exist between the views of both sides sales, we think that pieces a peaceful settlement is much, much better option than discontinuation of the water be continued. we will continue to make these efforts. we will say, okay, now, no negotiations, the reality is that the water is intensified as intensified the level of violence
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as is intensively high in the people are suffering on daily basis, days in and out. so in this sort of situation to say, okay, because there is no significant progress to stop it, we stop per talking to one and that, that, that will not be date that adoption as well. what about your rest and part as an expectations from because of the afghan government has achieved what it has with the help of its best and i live. first, i would like you to touch upon the role of the united states because the sentiment from amongst your team members is that they feel abandoned by the united states. it hasn't given the gone government, the kind of support that it needed to establish peace. and if you betrayed that there are different feelings about that. the fact of life is that they decided, but they wanted to to decide about tindy. previous administration had made that
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decision and the current administration continued on that basis and the withdrawal will be completed in a few days to complete withdrawal of the troops. so that's a fact of life. but to it's not like abandon and get on the sun. that's it. that's also an opportunity, an opportunity and that's also about unity. not just just what i for the ton about if you want to be part of assess them and work to get at it for a peaceful settlement. that's to be forward. the support unity will be there for them. idea of the lifting, the minute did is peaceful sutherland, the listing will take place. that's how much they think that it has to happen before as conditions because they think that this was promised to them. and according to the high agreement between the taliban in the united states and united states is also saying that taliban have not told promises. and i mentioned this
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that this is between noon tonight in the states and we'd expected to hire him and, and be supported. this hagi meant and cooperated with it. but we're not here to clarify. the united states has very valid points saying that taliban has not implemented, let dare promise to do. so these are, these are the, the type of discussions that we have we were having. but the good thing was that we decided to continue at this level as well. why did meanwhile affecting negotiation negotiating teams to expedite data for us to find ways, innovative? ways that if out of many, many agendas, we have only addressed 4 of them if out of network 50 agenda items when the food is being addressed and the world continues. that's not the
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piece that will, that will get us there because the war will create its own momentums obviously, but it requires both sides to come together tracks. but the talk that can be a one way street coming back to expectations from the west speaking to diplomats, who have been closely monitoring and not involved in the process that is taking place in advanced on there was a sense that they felt that there needs to be a sobering of the reality on the ground on part of the african government, which hasn't happened. there is still talk about, you know, within 3 months we're going to retake all the areas that have been taken by the taliban. we will teach them a lesson and we will take them back to where they were. and that seems to be the rhetoric coming from kabul as well. so as long as there is no real sense of realization that they have the momentum of the fighting behind them, they've taken that many areas. then they might be time to concede, to concede, to what to concede to what the lesson is that is that
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a viable option for no? absolutely not. that will never happen the in the war in the fighting, you will have upsets said back to have back in fort which jason, the because of the, the way to do the withdrawal of the international troops took place, talk about took advantage of that. today's just the army is the people which are just that. yes, of course, they saw the vacuum this gap and then they took advantage of it. now that people are resistant, can run group in afghanistan. polls is, it's what upon the whole nation by force through fighting, it will never happen. that's why i said that to weekend yet to say that, look from one side, get an opportunity to have peaceful settlement from the other side. if the thinking is that we will, we will capture areas district offered after district and that will lead to as the
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posing a military solution. and that meant to solution. we want to get it through the talks that will not happen. we need to have inclusive baseball set them. and so the topics one vote, i know that i'm not that mentioned favorite of the topics. but to the fact that to the army in the army said mission is not to is not to to, to say that ok, let's come and take us and they will, they will, they will, they will talk to about according to, to their, to their mission. now let me quote, present actual gun and just a few weeks ago saying that the u. s. decision to leave a gun on is a decision moment for the taliban. the region, an african themselves. the choice ahead is clear core, less around and acceptable and state and gornstein or continue the dangerous power grabbing alternative who is continuing on the path of the power grabbing alternative. because if you speak to the other side, we have gone government. no,
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you look at it from the human show that they have captured, they have captured so many districts in the past in the past few weeks or months. but does that mean? does that mean when that is when there is an opportunity for talks? why not to get seriously into the issues which of which are that and find, find a way for solving it. so it's, it's very clear what is being said. and also the situation is very clear on the ground and understand if you've been seeing all of the concerns which have been raised by the international community. the articles being put forth in the research by think tanks, talking about timelines of the collapse of cobble once again, and the government is going to fall. do you think that it is a realistic assessment and how hopeful are you that the african government in its current shape and form will be able to protect all of the hartford freedoms that
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people have achieved in the last 2 decades. so indeed years which has and as a college and control at the moment, unfortunately, those freedom to the, those rights was that people were enjoying in their chief bench which were made that has been reversed. that's also a fact of life. and the point is that the, in our side, the what we presented in the past $44040.00 was that we have different opinions about the way of life about the governance and all of that. can we get to get it while maintaining our views about human rights, women's rights, freedom of speech. they should be here. they should have learned from a jersey to dizzy to being here. it's. it's meant that quote,
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as being here and that's what was going on when we knew talk about freedom of speech. so we have different opinions about these things. can we find ways to not to fight for imposing god. we have life upon the b but but to, to compete for it. to contest it. to civilian it's true. peaceful means. that's the whole thing. taliban cannot convert the whole population of upon a son into taliban taliban a zation of her finest. son is not acceptable. yes, of course, they feel at this moment that they have that hand militarily on the ground too. and that will not last that way. i'm sure. i'm not talking about days and weeks that we're talking about the course of time because that's the lesson from out. his state, so the sooner we get to the other fact in reality of life,
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the death to you cannot, you cannot impose, you are well upon the whole nation through military might. even if you have that opportunity that should compel them. and also, as i mentioned, we're ready to, to talk about but my question was, how confident are you that the african government is going to be able to prevail, to protect those freedoms and assure the african people that it is here in the long run. and it will continue to be there as, as i mentioned, if there is no, there is no peaceful settlement. unfortunately the world will continue. and as a result of the war, tinge will change and it will go and to hand. that part. if you're talking about the survival of the state, i should say that yes when,
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when the slot makes it public, that is opposition. there are different roofs which are not happy with our conduct, but a day courtesies as they are unhappy. but they're the same time a deputy with the principles in the principle of at a public one person one vote. and so to another principles. and if you're talking about the survival of the state, yes. but how, how cohesive is that is, is that a coalition? so to speak of people in cobble because as you were coming here we saw those differences. once again you, you weren't able to convince president cars. i go with the heck, but they are to come and join you in. these talks with the taliban to convince the taliban that there is no military solution. and the principle of i have no doubt and you can ask it under that one principle the did is no military solution. they have given the message, yes,
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you referred to farm at present cache. a will refer to a message with the enigma deal that said this. the other stated that and in the discussions which were going on that in cobble as well did with these these, these issues. but meanwhile, it was expected. i'm not saying that it, it was a clear promise. it was expected that some other senior leaders of taliban also come from from pakistan. those were based impacts them. and that was one of the main reasons that those leaders didn't participate. but talking about the prison cars, he accompanied me up to the airport and to his support. and he spoke before us before departure. so that on the issue of peaceful set on that, i don't think that those who have not participated. that's because they don't,
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didn't believe in it or the believe that did as a military solution. but just basic left a very quickly we need to discuss about what is happening in the region as well. the taliban have not just taken areas inside of the sun. they've taken at least 4 major border crossings into the sun. again, we're seeing a lot of rhetoric unit, a man who supports rhetoric from cobble about how they're being supported from outside powers and how they're getting support. what is the role that the region is playing, and are you hopeful that there is a positive role that can be played by regional? i was in a band. i will be very brief. it is randolf that did, did he did, asian can play in it will be in the legitimate interest that support for peaceful settlement, the inclusive peaceful set. okay. different ideas, different, different contacts and no time to comment on them. but to there's
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only one way forward to support inclusive peaceful settlement. this will be in the interests of the region treaties. back as a conference, there was a conference in tashkent. how the ideas of those conferences like that that conference was on connectivity railway between and from central asia to, to, to pakistan from, from, from, was based on to pakistan through us on a sunday either going to do with the projects which it was an important event how to say those ideas will materialize without piece and you have been riding on a lot of hope from the african peoples ever since these talk started. this was a unique opportunity into decades that i've gone spinal li are sitting across the table video cards. this is going to be looked back by people in history. they're going to say, this is
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a pivotal moment where peace could have been achieved in understand how hopeful are you that those expectations are going to be met. and you're going to be able to convince the other side that piece is the only solution, and without it, there is going to be for the suffering of the gun people. one thing they can, i can say in this respect, that this is the ratio of the absolute majority of the people of afghanistan. and this is the only way forward, which is in the interest of stuff on his desk and people in high interest of our country in to run one thing which i can assure can to men, men and women that love to spare any moment to make it 1st, it is a small port unity we need to, we need to, we need to capitalize on it. and to as guarantee that all these efforts will produce the same result that the people are expecting. even
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in the past 10 months. part of our population are disappointed why these things happen that have not happened. one thing which i can say is that they will spend no effort in trying to consensus around it and move forward in and make sure that no opportunity is mist dr. the, the la chip and how council for national reconciliation. thank you very much for talking to out there. take a becoming a living legend of a young age with simply not enough. he transformed his influence on the pitch into political clouds. the brought peace to the ivory coast posted by eric comes in football rebels. the life of drop by the football who succeeded,
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where politicians had not dropped the boy and civil war on out. there are each and every one of us ever got a responsibility to change our personal space for the better the more we could do this experiment and a lot of us could increase just a little bit that would be worth doing. anybody had any idea that it would become a magnet who is incredibly rough. they're asking for women to get 50 percent representation in the future assembly here in getting this pick up the collect the segregate, to say this is extremely important service that they provide to the city. we need to take america to try to bring people together trying to deal with people
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who left behind me. ah, ah, a rush to get to safe grounds. typhoon strikes east in china just days off the devastating flooding. ah, ah, i'm sammy's a dan. this is al, just you're alive from dell hall. so coming up, the us says, afghan forces must flow with the bonds of bonds to the government imposes a nighttime curfew desperate for hell for needs migrant.


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