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910. he's threatening one of the singapore most blood tradition. it's famous, straight, told the fragile on $1.00 0, $1.00 east investigate it. poker can innovate to survive on al jazeera news high for me. okay. it has been more than 2 months since, protested the cause columbia hit the streets and overturned a tax reform proposal. but the demonstrators didn't go home as the active if their moms have grown. so we are asking right now, what is it that the government response is going to be like, how the test is dealing with it and what are they asking for right now on today's episode of the stream, we start a book, a talk with to demonstrate this most important, the most important thing is to make visible all the abuses that have taken place in
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our country. there have been many cases of abuse. we, as a people have the right to protest. the constitution says we have rights. and at this moment, we are not supported. we are fighting for the rights we have had for many years. you know, because i'm only john, the golden. this is an indolent state. it is a state that doesn't talk to the people. it talks through force and weapons, we want peace, democracy, life. we don't want a state of terror. we don't want the state where people are murdered, but where there are minimum guarantees. they cannot assassinate the youth. who are the future of this country that you need to help us cover the processing columbia? we have christina elizabeth natalie. so good to have all of you, christina festival, introduce yourself to our stream audience. and in the context of these protests, tell us who you are. and what you do hi, my name is christina noriega, and i'm a freelance journalist based in book with colombia who has been covering the protests for the past 2 months to have you had
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a really interesting yourself to the stream audience. really great to be here. thanks for the chance. my name is elizabeth dickinson. i'm a senior analyst for columbia international crisis group. we're a conflict prevention organization and i've spent the last 2 months a link to this across the country, both in rural and urban areas. get to happy and natalie, explain your connection to the current protests in colombia and introduce yourself try international audience. thank you very much. and now one of the members, now she's an independent clinic from waiting on that, and we're only covering the protest we are actually doing different activities around the, the, for employees in the page. so yes, i have an idea of why these protests are ongoing. why people didn't just go home and say, wow, that was amazing. we actually succeeded, we overturned the patch reform proposal. my id is it's covered. but if you're
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watching right now on your youtube, you can jump into a comment section of i guess your questions. i be part of today's show in these of us i'm thinking that covered is connected to why people didn't go home. these amounts of grown. you'll take loopy. so i think the way that it was described to me, i thought very well by one of the processors that i spoke to the family, which has been the epicenter of the present. it's a city on, on the pacific coast where natalie is with us today is based and the way that she's painted me was really the tax reform that's part these process. it seems to be uncovered. our eyes uncovered our eyes to the broad array of injustice. isn't inequalities, but really characterized columbia? this is a country with very limited social mobility, access to education, to the job market, extremely limited. on top of that, as you mentioned, a year of worsening pandemic. so the pandemic has hit columbia so hard, and we've had on and off last sounds that affected the most vulnerable the most of
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all. why? because informal job, those people cannot afford to stay home. they can't work virtually income groups that in the lowest income to columbia were far more likely to become you to not have access to medical care and to lose their job during the pandemic. so all the inequalities that exist already in society, they were exposed by the pandemic and worse. and so that is why i think the crisis today has really riven just such an extent that it requires a response in order to, to move forward. christina, as you're doing your reporting, how are you making it makes sense for the people who are following your reporting. what are you saying is the reason why more than 2 months later, there was so many demands from all over the country and for so many groups from what i've seen in my reporting is that there are also a lot of people on the ground community members in marginalized neighborhoods, who feel like they've gone on her for a very long time,
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they want to make sure that these protests don't and without some other demand being heard and some of the demands are very local and unique to their communities . these are also neighborhoods where there's a lot of violence, there's a lot of unemployment poverty, and they want to make sure that their demands are also hurts. naturally, you are in a place that has become the epicenter of protests and demonstrations. it's a place called kelly. can you tell me a little bit more about pointers, their resistance? yeah, it is a very special place and how that situation happened is, is part of the what fuel the current protests, there are no police that now. right? sure was this one of those fancy. what a point we had more than 45, i guess it seems so right now most systems are
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there any more will roles for the seal fighting, but we'd be put in a 60 and t before with the people joining forces to requesting all the voice that we had in the cd and they're all over our cd o replace entirely. it was served a part of the cd sell for. 1 the tv and, and they are just places for the gallery to talk to each other to see what's next to share for. so the, the, for him for, for, was to rave to feel libraries. and i've seen these gathering in the, when they say they are in the different parts of the cd because we see chill or we can, we can talk with each other because we're building some people that are making
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these neighborhoods. christine, i just said there was a lack of education to employ me. is that these they just really, really my pay mean try because we know that we can do these for teams for our neighborhood, for our people here for nothing. can you list all of the things that you want? i think that's the 5, just the on one hand i could, you might have, you know, have 5 immediately that you want as an activist from your government right now. i came but i was i think it was for the, you know, you just mentioned it before. we were waiting alive. it kinda fell out of this information going around on what happening and what happened before they
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tired. so i paid one of the thing is to kill it, or may not comfortable for that happening month, normally a, so right now, we try old a few more right lucian, but all the piece of the government, you know, do eat their employees. they should be corey or humor, right? you know, there to be factors in put it into case you need to call or all the different things that we need. and they've been doing that job and people and we, all, we all pay taxes is there. we don't see the money any worse. so what the hell when i'm comfortable, the other one is to see my putting out this information. i'll make information out in the other really here to people,
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you know because they just don't want to hear anyone. they just been with each other with the people they want to hear when the reach of people here with the people that are in power. so we really need to feel, we are really like where the country and tommy is a really big tv. what we need to do is create a spaces together relating to each other and the our team is still on the, on the police with all these last month. i want to, i want to come by. yeah, i'm going to, i'm going to come to that because part of what fuel these demonstrators is how the police is reacting than how the government has reacted. i was going to bring in the voice of cruise and then i'm going to go straight to you, elizabeth, have a listen to clues and then come off the back in terms of the government response to these protests his chris. so a lot of the progress is a young people who feel less out of the system. they feel left out of the coven
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recovery, and it's less out of the implementation of the piece. and then another demand has been to the criminalization of protests that we've seen has surged in response to the process. so this has been the impression that everyone seen from the smile from the right police from, from just read re being used by the, by the administration criminalizes processes. and instead of responding to the administration has responded with mc, ryan law was labels and progresses. urban terrorist and it tries to print a already a legal form for protest. elizabeth, how would you describe the government response to demonstrations? well, i think, you know, one of the, one of the reasons that this crisis has become so entrenched is that from the
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beginning the government hasn't seen it as a political crisis, but rather under curity crisis. and because of their viewpoint, they've been very heavily on the police in an attempt to control the process. but what's happening on the street is not a security crisis. it is a deep social and political cry from the vast majority of colombians to be heard. and to have real solutions and feel the reliance from the police has in fact entrenched the process. and i think it created the 2nd set of grievances. so the way that we think about it is the, the sort of socioeconomic frustration, the difficulties of, of sort of daily life really formed the base of why people on the street. but the reason they stayed on the street was because of police brutality. and now that has the mercy is perhaps the single most unifying grievance among the processors is to have accountability for the way that the police run has responded how they responded, sometimes actively firing on protesters using non lethal weapons inappropriately. so for example, shooting here, gothic close range, or very dense neighborhoods,
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i think it's worth stating that the police in columbia were created to the time of conflict. and in many ways the institution continues to operate on that model. it hasn't have this hard moment of examination. after the peace accord in 2016 was signed that ended that armed conflict about what does it look like for a police to act in a country that is in peace. and so the relationship between citizens and the police continues to be very conflicts. christina, me shave us. he asked us some headlines, which i'm absolutely sure that you are familiar with. and you've been reporting on colombian press on the attack in national strikes. columbia agreed to the police abuse is against protest. us. one more headline here. colombians has thrown to anti government protest. hundreds have gone missing. christina, how do hundreds go missing where they gone? what is happening? what a lot of human rights organizations have been saying as bad. police will arbitrarily
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arrest protesters. and then these protesters are taken to police stations, but then the reports of the detained it doesn't, it ends there. there are no more reports of what happens to them after that. and that's how a lot of these protesters go missing. and so a lot of these human rights organizations have had to communicate with police stations to figure out where these protesters are detained and where they are located. i want to bring in, here's the presidential advisor. his name is emilio. i know, and he's been in dial up to having conversations with the protesters, but it looks like now the government a taking a much from allied have a listen. have a look. know they are located. there can be no more roadblocks. they are illegal. they are violent and they are not a peaceful way to protest. if they happen,
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authorities have to abide by the law. this means being very firm against those who do not protest in a peaceful manner, firmer against the vandals, and the firmest against those who commit terrorist acts while taking advantage of the peaceful protest was in contact with you. this is intriguing because the government spokes person, he's saying he's supposed to be talking to the protest. this is calling some of the acts, terrorist acts, but the happening people have been killed doing these protests. so where is the violence happening? is they happening on both sides? is this an overreaction from the government? are they just trying to stop the protesters? how do you see this? i think i've seen a lot of people can't. i mean it's, it's been a violence from the government and over reaction coming for me. and i think it's misleading. what he said that the rules are violent because most places
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where people got it, you know, in the restaurant because they don't want people to kill what is happening, what, all the or my doing all the things that they're going to be. if you are not doing so there is one thing, but the role doing the same thing. what be in, for example, that is coming from a person by the and the only way the team really violent is when the police people in this month, people get there. it's to that, that people down the road. so have the place for violence that that was there. that was trying to put something on it. look, you know, saying that he should be silent, should pay your cd. you showed him in the media that you don't,
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paul putting up on shadow social media that the media is because they want us to be quiet and we know what to do that. and that's when they say that. no, because we just go to a screen. i do want to tell them what is what really happened here. me good if i would jump in. yeah, go ahead. elizabeth and christina you 5 on well, so i just wanted to draw and what not to leave a thing because i think one of the things that has been very distinct about this process movement is the use of blockade. so blockades, within cities and located between cities, i don't think it's useful to think about why this is the form of process that has risen at this moment. i think it very much relates to something that christina and natalie were saying about how communities want to take back their own economy toward their own economy. when the blockades emerge, essentially it was a way to create a space in which citizens could be safe, to organize safe,
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to have conversations safe, to set their own futures and to determine their own goals. these are in areas where you talk to youth and they just feel they have no control over their life. they have no access to access to higher education. they have no access to the job market . they are segregated in parts of the city that are stigmatized as being criminal or stigmatize of being so poor. you know that they'll never get out of that cycle. so this, these blockades really were right to reclaim that narrative. they know we're going to build internally. we're going to build our own community. i think that has what is what is interesting about this moment and what could persist. and what could really take this crisis in a positive direction, which is to say that local leaders have emerged in communities. ideas have sprung up, you know, within the community. how could we organize? how can we create our own library, our own spaces for you? how can we make sure that our community is empowered and that's a space, but that has been reclaims the why the blockade. it was because of this need to
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reclaim one on future and control over that fate. we're going to go ahead. yeah, i would add to that the add to that, that a lot of youth that are organizing are also trying to see what is going to end up from these protests. they are really trying to create a movement that will outlast the mass protests that we've seen. dined down any way they want a transformation in their neighborhood because they have been burdened by illegal economies by unemployment, by violence. and what you've seen is communities that are coming together and fundraising to create libraries like others have said they've created workshops and pretty much different things for their communities. and what i also want to, yeah, what i want to add to is that
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a lot of people have also said that if it weren't for the blockades, they wouldn't be able to start negotiations with the mayor in cali, for example. they feel like the protests previously weren't powerful enough for them to start negotiations and that the blockades have allow for this to happen. so get, i have a number of questions for you from you chief audience. i'm going to ask you the question is going to do an instant response and instant response. so we can get as many and it's possible color says next to colombia will have presidential congress elections. that will be a change for the people. how will it natalie? and actions next year, change not change. instant offset, very quick. go ahead. i hope so. i think other people are paying for the people in the organ at each other to go on boarding pools and also to do to be the in the and the boarding pool to see what is happening there. okay. how
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know natalie needs rainy is also watching these rainy. se, kudos to you, elizabeth, you make a great point. if the police are formed during a war time, they will take that mentality to the citizens. could that be changed and is about very quick response, please? i think it has to be changed for the effectiveness of the institution with every day they're losing credibility because of the way that the police are behaving in response to the very communities that they're meant to protect. and one more, this is from chavez. chavez is on youtube. thank you for watching. thank you for being part of the show. what role with an activities are ordinary colombians doing support the protest i've indirectly or directly in schools, what places, etc. christina, you take that one because obviously with violence on the streets that must have a chilling effect for the demonstrators. what do you think? i have seen a lot of disenfranchised youth organized to protect protesters during these marches
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. and so they have created sort of a front line to defend themselves, and that's also been an interesting develop from these recent protest. sophia is in boca time, and she has a really interesting take on what is needed right now. natalie. i'm going to ask you to respond to sophia is response very quickly here she is festival. the most important for you to share the change the auditors are demanding columbia to listen to them. it seems obvious, but the response of the goal has been to send public courses to demonstrations rather urgent. dia, look, if you space is for participation, that the government has promoted, have been inclusive or representative. and there has no evidence of political will to comply with the claims. second, in order to have long term vision. most of the problems that people are currently
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practicing. structural loot. so it is necessary to guarantee social on the clinic, right. we public policies that go beyond the electron swing and short term approach . natalie, you have demands when your government, what happens next? what i was thinking about this is late, but nobody knows what is going to happen every day. and because we are in such a diverse country and a push the cd, every bad things can change. and every day that would be the responsible. there were these just switch something or it is an important only be you hear entirely, we can enter a we can we can people my age, which is nobody on so i mean it's like the like the worries don't have them, but i think this is going to be so long to roll, you know,
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you something that it's not going to, we're told more going to mom here for a while. but the major pulling is what be what, what you say the go or money. just know and he's not implementing eric anything. he didn't get an implement so they're not gonna do anything for you, but we're just going to keep quiet in the best we can assure that we're going to keep fighting that one day. i'm looking at it, which is july, the 20th, when congress comes back into work. and i am wondering whether that might be the date with a national strike committee, where the demonstrated, the protest is all giving their demands to congress in a sentence. elizabeth, what are your expectations? so my protests have already been called again for the 20th of july,
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and i think it's very possible that we see the movement gain momentum. once again, this idea of dialogue is crucial and it hasn't happened yet, and it's not only national dialogue and sort of a national level among the lead talking to the bells, which is what it historically isn't columbia, have to reflect the reality of the approaches, which is decentralized at a local level and listening to the streets. and it's of us natalie and also christina, thank you so much for being part of our show today. if you want to follow them and you want to follow the expertise, have a look here on my computer. you can find christina, you can find a elizabeth. and this is the noise ratio, which is part of the organisation that natalie is part of. thank you. everybody thank you for your comments and questions. i'll see you next time. take. ah, [000:00:00;00]
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