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effective that i was busted with a punitive jail sentence. without fire in something which should induce a sense of, sup, to all those who cherish on ended. the rule of south africa is fast sliding bag tool. big tight rules to grind offense for so say they're ready for sci fi toss of a few case government. if foreign troops control from the region, they also want the u. n. to investigate ethiopian and retrain leaders for like all crimes and crimes against humanity and take wry and all the news chiles newly elected constitutional assembly. as meeting for the 1st time to drop the replacement for the constitution written under dictator acosta. initiate, which is widely blamed for deep social inequalities that tribute deadly protest in
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2019. i'm showing la have more. this is a new constitution, 155 members who rep who are trying to overcome the divisions in july and society, but also in many ways represent those divisions. 155 members, half of them, a women, 17 of the seats have been designated for indigenous communities. the l g b t, community has represented people with disabilities. so they are trying to heal the divisions by being represented by the very, the desperate state of, of trillion society. rescuers in the philippines is searching for 5 people still missing after a military plane crashed, killing at least 45 soldiers form us out for c, 130 carried both civilians, military pass. now, when it went down, as it was landing, it's an airport on hollow island. over the top stories generation change is next. something was going to change. has anything really changed?
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this is systemic violence that needs to be addressed at its core. we are in a race against the barrier and know what to say. we are all saying we're looking at the world as it is right now, not the world. we like it to be. the devil is always going to be in the details. the bottom line, when i was just around the generation divide isn't a miss young millennials and gen these around was not striving for incremental change. they're fighting for radical policies because they see that was falling apart from climate change to crushing foot in death. young people are taking more forceful positions and they expect fosters welcome to generation change where we attempt to understand and challenge the idea of mobilizing the youth around the world. this week we talk to 2 young people who are fighting police brutality in the us. they use different tools and strategies, but they have the same end goal,
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racial justice in the classroom, brooklyn, which is a diverse community. how did that? she appeared i am the daughter of immigrants, which is something that i talk about a lot. my family is from jamaica and so growing i've been seeing, you know, a lot of the struggles and being 1st generation american my mom had a really difficult time finding a school within our community for me, my sister's c o 2. and so i ended up having to travel about 40 every day i go to school wasn't majority white neighborhood. and so i remember,
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always asking why is it that most of my classmates are white when i go back home, my neighbors are black. are emily great communities, you know, and so things that i was able to fully understand that until i got older and understood the history of us have me your 24. and you've already graduated from columbia university where you started a nonprofit for women of color cold we believe. and you're also one of the youngest in turns in a white house with your most well known as the co founder of freedom launch, new york city. tell me a little bit more about it. i was out on the ground in brooklyn, and we're seeing that a lot of processors were out. and we're looking for organizers and where you saw was that there was a lot of confusion. and so we created freedom march,
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and we do the work of making sure that our voices are heard and waiting to see how many people came together and fit in solid charity. and since that day we've been on the front lines ever since you dedicated your life to the fight for racial justice. have there been any personal costs for yourself? you always have to make the decision back when the bell rings. what exactly is going to be or on a lot of people say, you know what i've done during the so right movement and my answer is always whatever you're doing right now. and grateful to be able to read my own organization that had slapped women lead. i am a force and he reckoned with 100 front lines. it's not always amorous. that's not always the way. it's actually very tiring, but it has been an incredible journey and will continue to be an incredible journey
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. ah, you grew up in a mixed race family and you talk publicly about the discrimination that he faced in school and in your neighborhood going up. one of my earliest memories is actually it was about 5 or 6 years old, being beaten up in a bathroom by some other kid who called me the n word. i can't remember anything earlier than that, and that is something that dual impacts. and you also grew up in orlando, florida, just 15 minutes from stanford, where tree one martin was killed in 2012. i saw myself and i was a kid who took the city by home for the bus will drop me off about a mile away from me and i would walk that mile every single day after school. and
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that's what happened to him on martin. he was stopped by george zimmerman, and then the criminal justice system didn't do anything to hold george zimmerman accountable. so that was the last offer me what is the importance of data in 5 for racial justice in 2014 ferguson having the friday for the was one of the for the last point moment where the nation can focus on police violence. it became clear that there was very little data produced by the federal government to help us understand the problem for me, that the 1st thing is to get the data so that i build loving police as a map that quite simply visualizes people who are killed by police, the goal is to demonstrate as this is indeed a why problem that requires a systemic solution.
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you've been working to renew the racial injustice for a while now. have there been any personal costs to you? absolutely. my work is literally compiling reading through analyzing and thinking out how to tell a story about cases of people who have been killed and otherwise it's hard, in part because you can live. and these are people division beings with family to community to there are also been physical threat as well. right? so i've had the f b, i show up at my door and i was starting to get threat messages e mail as a young black man in the work like, i'm constantly up again, institution and just on that, i'm much more powerful. and yet you know, time and time again, i'm reminded that this work job remains important. that's why the work has to continue. samuel and chelsea. thank you
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so much for being here today. the 1st question i'd like to ask both of you. do you think our generation is more politically active than the generations before? and how are approaches different. i disagree with the fact that we're more politically active this generation. if you look at history, then you know even the rights movement, there were young leaders who are on the phone lines for that as well. john lewis was 23 when he's still going to march on washington. martin luther king organize that. a very young age. i think what we're seeing now is in the midst of a digital age where social media is so easily at everyone's disposal, that it is a toolkit, and ways that we haven't seen before. historically, to democratize information, to share resources and ultimately to build community. and i think that's what happened this past summer with the george white process. but i also think that that is really indicative of the power of community building and coalition building that we're seeing with jonesy and millennial generation. so just to be care,
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you're seeing that generation is not more politically active, but what we're doing is we're using digital to, to tools to organize in ways the generations before didn't have the opportunity. absolutely correct. samuel, how would you respond to that? yeah, i agree wholeheartedly with that, i think you look just at the sheer number of protests that occurred since the ferguson uprising in 2014 and then again after the murder of george floyd in minneapolis, it's a scale that this nation has never seen before. you know, we have in terms of organizing, we were learning from organizing all across the world to figuring out how to use limited resources. but access to technologies, access to a phone, access to twitter, then just allow us to go further to go faster, to organize more quickly and at a scale that hasn't been pop. what is digital organizing? then? digital organizing is how do we actually mobilize and align people skills, their talent, their energy, and their concern about the issue with actions that can make the biggest difference
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towards ending police violence towards changing the systems and structures that reproduce police farms and cities across the country. and chelsea how are using that in your work? digital organizing is how freedom march and why c came to be right. it was through a friend and i coming together and saying that there wasn't enough organized process taking place in new york city. but then it's translating that into action items, the way that be signing petitions, whether that be getting people to come on the ground or that be sharing and disseminating information, which is really important, especially in the age of misinformation. and so we had our online classes, we had virtual training, we had seminars, we had panels, and so it was through that sharing of information that ultimately led to the spread of freedom march and y, c and s growing so rapidly. during the summer. you brought misinformation, so let's, let's touch on that a little bit. while technology and social media has made it easier for us to mobilize, but it has also led to an increase polarization in the country. how do you deal
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with the distrust in facts? one is sort of radical transparency. so you know, in my work, since 2014 has really been focused on collecting, analyzing, and storytelling, using data to better understand the issue, police fans across the country. where are so hot spots a police violence. where are the places that are actually making progress towards reducing police violence and what are some of the policy and systemic changes that can be effective in reducing police shootings, police use of force, racial disparities and policing. and in the context of that work, you mentioned this information. there are a set of, i'll call the myths and this is just information committed to misinformation, but it predates for the new round of social media. what are the next can you need? i think there are a set of miss around policing that have been around for centuries, and really traced back to slavery, right? this idea of black criminality. this idea that the police are not doing anything
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wrong, they are merely encountering people who are inherently violent in inherently violent places, which are often cold birds, which are racist co way of that narrative is pernicious. it exists across the political spectrum. and so part of it is how do we use the tools available to us data, data visualization, organizing, policy making to effectively and directly dismantle those myths? because ultimately, these mishap power the history of our current policing institution was that it was initially created as a slave catching institution. and so when we talk about undoing so many years, right of systemic racism, we talk about the fact that it's still rights movement, truthfully never ended, it had just taken on a different form. understanding the data is important, but also understanding that there of course is that intentionality, right? to suppressed information. and there is a reason for that. chelsea, what is the funding, the police this idea around the funding, the police,
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let's see. very clear. it's a spectrum. it's not a yes or no conversation, especially because the fund and why p d has literally been used as a facial ising way to really polarize the country. and in reality, when you kind of break down what the funding, the police really means is reallocating police resources, reallocating community resources, there is an urgent need to reimagined public safety and to dramatically shift how we approach public safety away from the policing based approach. and towards investing in a community based approach is not a not responding to communities with violence. what are the new ways of imagining safety that you know, our generation are talking about? how do we protect our communities? and what does it look like to envision a place where we take the resources that are ultimately present and deeming our
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young people as criminal and putting that money and that funding into resources for our education institutions and putting that money into health care. right. and so for us to really understand this, 1st and foremost understand the history is to understand tracing of the money. right, and the budget, especially in new york with a lot of the work that we did this past summer, around the conversations around the funding and why p d d funding? the police, which really just translates to how do we make sure that we're putting the resources back into our communities just to get a scale of how big i want people to know. one does a police budget look like in different cities, the total amount of money spent on the police, about $11000000000.00 on the n y p d h here, which is the most of any local law enforcement agencies in the country. but you know, city across city, police departments are a huge expenditure. so in places like oakland, it can be up to 40 percent of the cities general fund that is spent on policing. which far clips in the amount of money spent on a new jobs programs,
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investments in mental health as a response to mental health crises and the types of things that are actually far better approaches that are not violent approaches to some of the issues that police are currently responding to only about 4 percent of the total amount of time and off the fact that i typical shift is responding to violent crime. so again, what police are spending their resource is doing is not about to fall across a lot about keeping people safe from harm. it is about a whole host of other things that are not about public safety and actually to your appointment, exacerbate the problem in respond with violence to people who are going through are going to struggles are going to poverty or going through homelessness, or going through mental health crises, this is something where we need to re imagine what the response to these issues is to get there, have to debunk and dismantle dismiss that police as an institution exist to keep people safe because the data just simply doesn't support that. how can you fix it in the immediate, in the media, it looks like answering the,
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the call to action that so many people have been saying, since this past summer in truth be told for such a long time, it looked like thinking about how do we have more programs like what's being scaled and bringing mental health professionals on the ground with police officers. it looked like perhaps completely right down. having police officers be the 1st response to every situation that takes place, but having the opportunity to call help professionals ma'am, coming in and look like funding, adequately our education system, right? all of these things are very tangible. next steps that we can take, and really what we're asking for is a re imagining of how do we go about addressing the needs of our communities and doing so in a way that pushes the conversation forward. and there's nothing radical about that . is there data then to prove that the funding to police is more effective? what we can show with the data is that there are cities that have begun to pilot alternative responses to some of the things that police traditionally have
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responded to in l. a. they actually are piloting a corresponded program which is not as good as having just a mental health provider, but this is the mental health providers sort of takes the lead, the police play back up in a sort of sit back. what is interesting about the program is the l. a sheriff's department which runs the programming in collaboration with the county mental health providers. they actually found a report last year where they reviewed the program and they admitted to sheriff's department admitted that they would have used for us an additional $600.00 more time and they would have shot for more people if there hadn't been mental health provider on the scene d escalating the situation and that's the police saying that right? so you can imagine the truth is probably a lot for a lot a lot further along than that. chelsea spoke about how george flights that had an impact on the nation, but also you personally his that is in the 1st also case of police brutality in this country. so i will definitely say that george floyd is not the 1st right me. there is trade one more in what i will say is that when we understand george floyd
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and his that so we also have to pay that within the context of what happened right . there was a panoramic that had a lot of people on their phones and that was the main way of you receiving it sunday to day basis. and so i think it created a shockwave effect where everyone was forced to see you when i think back to 2014 and 15 in the context of ferguson uprisings. so much of that work was necessarily focused on proving that there was a systemic problem. and not because folks who had experienced it didn't know there was a stomach problem, really because there were a lot of white people who refused to believe it. and a lot of policy makers who refused to act on that. and i think when george floyd video came out, there was also something about that video in particular at the number of officers who were there. so the, on the stair on derek, chopin's face, he really was indifferent to george for his life. there was something about that
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incident in particular and i think it's a different course. there was now a consensus that there was a problem with systemic that it was everywhere. and i say something said sam, i would say that we definitely did see a shift, but i would actually push back and saying that on a large scale, this was the conversation. because in fact i feel like the election results told a completely different story. it showed the fact that there was a device in nature when it came to what happened with george? why? because troop called, if the george floyd death was enough. then we should have seen a large land slide when for bite. and at the very least, to denounce trump's administration. another thing that i would add is that 6 years ago with ferguson, we didn't have a president that was going on twitter talking about, you know, there's problems in the streets that are organizing pro tasks and demonstrations.
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and, you know, we need to send the national guard in 6 years ago. we weren't in the middle of a panoramic. and 6 years ago we didn't have a president who went on a debate telling boys to stand by and stand back. and so the reality boys are wasted from the secret. yes. so i think it's important for us to understand that this past summer was in a lot of ways, a boiling of incidence and boiling of trauma. my question to you sam is do you think data can help bridge that divide? and i've seen that bridge, the divide and i think data is a really important tool for dismantling the myths that white people have told themselves that make them comfortable about the status quo. and frankly, i think we have to talk about data in the context of white supremacy because one of the reasons that policy makers, researchers and a whole lot of in communities of power and privilege, respect data so much is that they actually dismissed the stories of community
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members in lieu of data, but i don't think that we should be diluted into thinking that there are so many more people who, if they just saw this thing, would think differently and reports after a towards investigation after investigation. if you don't believe that there is a systemic issue in policing still, i think it is going to be extremely difficult if not impossible to convince you. i think the question is, how do we mobilize the critical mass of people who we already have on our side to actually implement those changes? i don't think i didn't, could implement all the transformational changes that we need. it's about how do we mobilize over 100000000 people consistently and in a way that is coordinated and directed exactly at the places to make the biggest difference. i really want to emphasize sounds that we cannot be diluted, into believing that data alone is going to fix everything. it's not data and needs to be paired with also the humanity element and understanding stories and
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narratives. and we also have to be intentional about what is needed within a given movement and how we can respond in a way that really pushes the conversation forward. i'm asking you both. are there any people are movements internationally that inspire you and inspire your work from hong kong to palestine to brazil, to nigeria. we're seeing movement against state violence encountering similar tactics with tear gas in the repression and having the problem solved in real time with it. not only sort of domestically or internally, but internationally. other people who have gone to similar struggles and experience similar things in the space of police data, most countries actually collect better data on policing the united states to us. and we are more about ourselves by examining some of the data internationally. so for example, we that the united states has one of the highest rates, police violence among sort of wealthy western nations that isn't unique to united
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states, right? this is all across the americas that has been sort of the function of policing in societies that were constructed on slavery and, and on the genocide of indigenous peoples. and we're seeing in brazil right now. large scale protests in response to police hospitals. the highest rate of police times in the entire world, $6000.00 people that come by police single year, but 80 percent people can go on black and it isn't feeling hard to collect data on those cases. i'm. so part of this knowledge sharing is figuring out how to find those records, how to compile those stories. i'm so that local organizers can use that in their organizing work. chelsea which are movements of people internationally that inspire your work. i think that there is a lot of ground that we've made within the u. s, but also there is a lot of conversations on a global scale that needs to be had around policing. and so i think about and sorry, because that's something that is so closely connected to the work that we've been
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doing on the front lines. sars is a form of police within nigeria that focuses on essentially trying to end robberies, right. and so they do that by targeting, particularly young people who either look like they have money, perhaps are suspicious, etc. but really what it boils down to is profiling. and using that as a way to justify over policing, to justify killing people without any type of accountability. and so a lot of young folks have answered the call to action of saying no more. so for us, it's really important to make sure that we are supporting these movements as they are happening and we are being intentional about those calls actions that are coming out of them. our generation is usually considered as a generation that is unwilling to work within systems. if they don't fit our demands, how do you define you work within that context and what is your end goal? so i would definitely say that yes, we are
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a generation that works outside of systems, but i would say that we are a generation that is multifaceted and can do both. and so specifically with the work of freedom, i want to see we not only focus on protests and we also do policy work. so we have our 5 to freedom policy platform that focuses on getting out of classrooms. we also are on the front lines and so i think it's really important to understand that ultimately it is the people that will push institutions and systems to be better. but in that same way that if we do not show up in those systems and we create opportunities for those who do not share our same beliefs and for those who ultimately are okay with the status quo, to make decisions about our lives. and so that is why we have to be intentional about showing up everywhere. i think that we are a generation that calls us. i think that we're a generation that holds folks accountable. and we're also a generation that is not afraid to change the game. if the current one isn't workday, so i think we're generation that doesn't wait for permission. i think the problems
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that we are facing are so profound and be inequities, economically, politically, socially that we just can't wait like the institutions are going to save us. the government isn't going to save us. there's no, you know, anointed leader who's gonna save us. this is life or death for us for our family members, for our generation. and i think we have to, we have been rising to that moment. we'll continue to rise to that challenge because ultimately i think we do need to reimagine everything. we need to imagine society or institutions and we can't keep operating. i'm united states is a 21st century country running on a $1700.00 operating system. and it's just, it's not a system that is acceptable, it's not the system that we deserve. and i think we have the tools that are disposed to change it. absolutely. samuel and chelsea. thank you so much for joining me. it's been a fascinating talk. thank you. thank you. me
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