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there. the rebels in northern ethiopia seek ry region, take more territory including the capital, but the federal government denies it losing the battle. those displaced now face the risk of famine. so is it the end or the beginning of a wider conflict? this is inside sort ah, ah, ah, hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much am john the fight for? if your peers trigger i region saw a sudden turn this week with rebel forces taking back to provincial capital mckelly . while the central government declared a cease fire fighting in the area had intensified in recent weeks,
people celebrated as ethiopian and their allied air. retrans forces withdrew. but the 2 gray people's liberation front has rejected the cease fire as a joke, saying it will keep pushing to recapture the entire region. ethiopia government denies. it's on the back foot. an army spokesman insist soldiers can retake mckelly in 3 weeks if they wanted. he says, troops were pulled out to deal with an external threats if you will get to our guests in a moment. but 1st, this report from catherine soy in neighboring, kenya. they feel going. government has issued a statement about what's going on in t gray and one of the things that stands out the reasons given for the withdrawals of the national army from some areas in that region. the statement says that the reason is that the schools is needs to prepare for a more national external threat. did not say what threat feasel which this external forces are. but then the statement did say that the grand
defense forces that appear to be on the offensive now not a priority to deal with. and that if need be the army, the military can take over the capital machaela within 3 weeks. so the government saying that the withdrawal is a strategic move and also saying that the declaration of the sci fi was also a political move to because of humanitarian reasons. it says that some as need to go back to the, to plant, to of a farming. now we also talked to the spokesman of t p last that to grand people's liberation front. a good time to read out who says that the fight that the grand fighters will not rest until every inch of the ease is liberated. he said, however, the t p less is in principle,
happy to hold any kind of talks to be escalate. the situation talks with a government but with conditions. he says that all services, including telecommunications and internet services and so on, must be, must resume. that has been cut off, he says that there has to be accountability of the atrocities that have been committed against the grand people. and all he calls invading forces. all invading forces must leave t gray. so it's going to be interesting in the coming day, the coming weeks to see whether these seas fire will hold already the to grant forces. i say that it's a joke, and to see how the government, they're retrans government and the mar forces would still control huge chunk of west and west. and the guy how all this forces, all this, what he's going to respond. the fighting has displaced more than 2000000 people since november rights groups have accused all sides of mass killings and rape.
350000 people now face famine, and at least 60000 have escaped across the border to sudan. the u. s. a major ally says it will take further measures against ethiopia and eritrea. if the situation doesn't improve soon, it is essential. now that all parties commit to the cease fire, allow humanitarian access protect civilians, there be independent investigations into atrocities. and that there is justice for victims. ethiopia, is it a pivot point to have an inflection point? what the parties do now matters and will determine whether there is a better future ahead for what we see and fall into gray bears the hallmarks of crimes against humanity. and quite possibly a genocide prospect for a durable piece. and if you o p a and it's road as a responsible regional leader. now in question,
as is prime minister the abi legacy relations between prime minister abi i met and t guys, leaders worsened after he introduced reforms in 2018 which included dismantling the federal governing coalition, which was led by t p l. f. officials from to gripe the t p l f, which had dominated if you'll be in politics for decades, accused of a of trying to increase the federal power. ave postponed last year's elections citing corona virus concerns, but regional leaders and to grey held their own vote in september in defiance of the central government. then in november, the government said t. p l f. rebels attack the federal army base in the north and killed soldiers in troops in response if you will be as government took control of mikella in late november and declared victory. but the fighting continued and the worse and in recent weeks. the now right,
let's bring in our guess and others about samuel get a true journalist based in ethiopia in rome, leticia bater, horn of africa, director of human rights watch, and in the hague. other cassie a bit program officer at the international institute for democracy and electoral assistance. a warm welcome to you all. sammy, let me start with you today. to brian rebels, they have rejected the governments unilateral cease fire, they have described it as a joke. so where does that leave the overall situation right now? it seems that fighting will continue. there will be lots of people that will be impacted by this. i speak from the humanitarian perspective, the people that i met. you know, they have no connection to the politics of the sub of r mckelly or t p for the job and government. so the focus from the beginning us reflected by the un and other organizations has been the impact it's been having on the ground. and
you know, many countries friendly countries, t t o b i including the bite, an administration has been calling for some kind of fire. we're hoping we're going to see this. a deceased fire have an impact on the ground. but it seems this conflict will go on and again, many people will be impacted. and it organizations continue to, to ask for some kind of monitor and corridor might not be achieved, but at the end it's everyday people that would be parted by any decision that comes from either the be administration or the government that is in mckelly at the moment latisha, samuel there was talking about the humanitarian crisis that's been playing out in the tea gray region. now, according to the un one, hundreds of thousands of people in t gray are facing famine. this is
a conflict that has been characterized over and over again by abuses of civilians. there have been widespread reports of massacres, sexual violence, burning of crops and much, much more. how devastating has this conflict been from a humanitarian standpoint? i mean, enormous in terms of the level of atrocities which are being committed which have in many ways directly resulted in the humanitarian crisis. we're talking about right now and both because of the actions of war and parties in terms of the destruction of civilian infrastructure in terms of the destruction, the crop is burning a call. but also the very base. it's up to the bible 1st of civilians on the ground . and at the same time, a lot of the actions of the warring parties have also contributed on restrictions
on movement of city. so when we're talking about she monetary and access right now, we need to talk about both ensuring that there is in p did access, but she managed very active, but also making sure that war and part team and not targeting civilians in need need to reach fixed and immediately, i mean, i think this is where it's important to underline the warning find which are coming out in early june around the fact that they were already a 3rd. a a 1000000 people who was already starving, the clear message that was that if the immediate urgent assistant wasn't given, then we were going to be dealing with an even bigger monetary and atom. you know when news 1st emerge, that mckelly had been retaken by to ryan rebels. many analysts describe this as a stunning turn of events for prime minister, obey ahmed. just how big of a set back is this for him?
it is a set buck. at the same time, i think they have realized that this is a one that is and winnable. and it's not really because they lost the war that they are leaving. i think it's really a grinding. it's telling me that we have seen. and it seems like the movement of troops both on, on the tv and, and a joke inside was pre planned and coordinated for the it's not really a defeat that led to the return of the t p l f. and the take away defense force back to mckelly. it's a realization on the side of the federal forces that this is an unwinnable war. samuel the t p l f. last territory, not just to, if you open government forces but also to their retrans soldiers and to fighters from the horror region. so how much territory in all, did they lose? again, you know like everything and we get all kinds of negations and pops and
numbers and we can never verify what's been happening unless we have access to this . some of the areas that you mentioned, you know, i was able to talk to only some cities and to grow including mccully. awesome and id got an idea of the but the rest of to guy wasn't even accessible to us or 8 organizations. so it's really, really difficult to verify what's been happening on the ground. there's no media that has been having such an access for them to make that determination. so it's speculation once again, but they did lose some. we just have to verify the information. and i don't see i have conflicting information. so i mean, i don't know, you know, i've seen
a lot of reports now that people are hopeful that aid will be able to eventually get in to trigger i region. but from your vantage point, what are the implications of what has happened? do you believe that humanitarian agencies will be able to get unfettered access to, to gray region? and how soon do you expect that that might happen? well i think it's a cycle just mentioned, i mean we, we don't really know right now there is a communication shut down again in the region and i mean it's absolutely urgent. adamant that the government needs to ensure that the communication is restored, the electricity has been shut down again. i mean, this is both making it impossible for organizations like for the media to report in real time to understand it's making it incredibly difficult. but you monetary actors to effect with the tracks from the ground. they need information to be able to understand the security situation. but this is also critical to the communities
on ground. they need to know what's going on. they need to know what i can receive right now. and so the communication shut down. it's just terrible. i mean, i'm for that very reason right now. it is urgent for the messaging which has been coming from the international community around monetary and access around monitoring over system which is being distributed in the region in terms of ending restrictions on humanitarian action. but also in terms of ending what has been the deliberate attacks on civilians in the way this will have been conducted, berkeley and direct me can contribute to the humanitarian crisis. we're dealing with right now. so the messaging and the pressure needs to continue right now would actually be adam. a spokesman for to ryan rebels said that they will stop at nothing to liberate every square inch of t gr i,
and that they will pursue the forces that they had been fighting against, into eritrea and into the horror region if need be, how much has the specter of a wider conflict grown as a result of all of this i'll get to that, but just to added to the same issue of everybody pure and access. i think the, the fact that the open government federal force have now withdrawn and also the fact that most of the rebounded area and provisions were actually coming from europe and sources. and now that the departure could actually worse than the gap in humanitarian provisions. so work has to be done to ensure that there is, there is an increase in, in him, out of here to provision. that's what a come from the gap that's been created in terms of the communication block out. i think we need to check whether the black culture is actually, you know, because of infrastructure problems within the area that the to go out for some control. if that is the case,
i think it would have to be fixed there. but we also have to check whether the block out, you actually are the result of external measures from, from the federal government. so we need to see the exact 3 reasons to be able to fixed up on the, on the, on the claim that the defense forces will pursue while the computer, our enemy forces. i suspect that it is more propaganda tool. and i obviously have a desire to continue on the momentum, but i am afraid that considering the depleted military capabilities that they have . and also considering that if they engage in an offensive, it will be more than a traditional watson's which was very much like what happened in early november. and i'm not sure if they have the capabilities that they had at the time to actually defeat the festival. and i'm her and other forces. so my says is that they will stay where they are. and if they attempt to engage in an offensive, they may,
they may suffer ctv or casual it is samuel, where do things go diplomatically from here? i mean, do we expect to see, for example, african emissaries playing a role with the un be more involved? what about the us? i mean, who could play the kind of role that is needed right now to de escalate the situation? for the most part, the african union has been very powerless and has been mute when it comes to this kind of issues within the continent. they've been sending delegation, head soap state for my head, so states and to speak to the leadership both. but you feel that you has been coming back and forth including the for a minister of finland, who may have missed spoken according to the feel. been side by saying there is a genocide. but i think countries that are respected traditionally in terms of
piece building are perhaps the swedish norwegians, even canada. they have a brand respected. they have this gift of soft power. they can use to try to bridge the gap. because you know, again within the african continent, because we see all this kind of disasters, we have this tendency to mation numbers. 91 percent of the population are facing food emergency for example, or millions of people starving or 500 people having some kind of disaster. so when people begin to see the thesis behind the number, i have been, some of us have been to the degree region. we begin to understand the impact. this is having, i've never been to a society that is desperately in need of leadership and impacted by
a conflict that has nothing to do with everyday people. done the people i met and the to great region, unless there is an international leadership. doctors respected by both, especially by your side. this caught that this conflict will continue and it won't just be on your bent matter. it's would become region on matter. very soon. heading to this to done their starting board from the northern countries and this refugees will soon be heading to europe. so this is becoming a worldwide international affair, and we should take the fish. i saw you nodding along to quite a lot of what samuel was saying there, did you want to jump in and add to the point he was making? yeah, i mean not for new. the i do want to just come back to the discussion about the communication blockhouse as well. i mean, i think some of the arguments here we heard in the 1st few months that the communications were down the course of action by the federal government. but it does seem communications, but down in most of the day right now. so it is difficult to see how the federal
government would not be responsible for the capable of shutting down the communication with such a group scale. and i think we just underlining then again, we have seen repeated shocking all of communications when there had been periods of significant fighting and instability in the region. and each time, when the communications have been restored, we have documented areas atrocities. so, you know, again why it is important to keep the message about the need to restore communications immediately in terms of the international community. i think we have repeatedly said, but it is shocking that a complex crisis of such magnitude and gravity is not on the agenda, but the human right counsel inter need about not being something like some only a gender. the security council in new york. it is essential with the secretary general to use a range of power, but the patch to publicly course for the international community play cpr appear on
the agenda for security council. now it's not the time to back down as we would saying. and i mean, coming to the point samuel was raising, i mean, here we're talking about a community and it's very difficult to see right now sections of a, but you get to be and pick a population that have been left on gave by the abuses and what is essential, is that, that needs to be independent investigators who are able to access all throughout the region right now to ensure the preservation of evidence. if it's a very big concern, we've been reading since the beginning to enable one day for that to be true. accountability and want which also the community is going to see as a credible home of accountability and latisha if i could just follow up with you when you talk about these rights abuses, these atrocities that you, your group and other rights groups have been documenting. it's all of the parties to the conflict who have been accused of committing these atrocities, correct?
i mean, we have definitely documented more abusive from the size of the ethiopian eritrea. and government forces on the i'm had a regional postage. we have documented also significant abuses against the error tray and refugee population also binder i militia. in the early stages of the complex, the i retry and refugee population, which had in some way forgotten in more recent months. one targeted by woodside, including by the train for if you destroyed the 2 train refugee camp in the region . adam, when he took office 3 years ago, prime minister ob, a promise to unite ethiopia, is the country more fractured now than it was then i ask this because it seems like it's been a, a huge fall from grace for, for prime minister. obey. and i mean, he was a, he was a darling, especially of the west,
you won the nobel peace prize. and now there, there are some countries and humanitarian actors that essentially consider him to be a pariah. so i mean, how does this impact him? and is the country more divided now after 3 years of his leadership than when he would then when he took the reins, i don't think the country is more divided. i think we, we should, we should not underestimate that. the fisher's, the divides in the country were inherits it. we can argue, arguably, i think that the way he pursued the process of transforming the ruling party is at the root of the conflict that we see in integration. and also some of the taishan in, in romeo a bo, he's not the only actor that contributed to this particular problem. and i'm glad i think you asked about the atrocities earlier committed by or locked us. i think this is, this is obviously as a leader of a country, he is partly responsible for it, but to pin it's only on him. i would be unhelpful to finding a more,
more sustainable, a peaceful way of resolving the issue that, that with us today. so yes, his reputation suffered and it must, it's, it's understandable because all these things are happening under his watch are the same time we should recognize about the these are complex disputes and everybody had a role. and i think the miscalculations about lead to the war in november would not be repeated. now, particularly, i also hope that the, that the, that the grand defense forces would be more deliberate, more reflective of what has happened in this, in the last 2 or 3 days. and take a more conciliatory approach, rather than engaging him in more offensive tactics. that could ultimately be more damaging to a population that has already suffered a lot. samuel did the, the prime minister did r b. i might have any other viable options available to him at the moment other than declaring this unilateral cease fire. oh, well,
he needed to. there was lots of pressure for instance, from other international countries, including donors, us aid being, you know, usaid has spent close to half a $1000000000.00 and the 2 great conflicts trying to help older spectrum's. the surprised recapture. mckelly might say the road. but again, there is a world wide understanding of what's happening in the field. it's in the open, there's social media, there are people activist. that's how i've been debating this and talking about this for since last november. and i mean, it was, i think it was time to listen and also listen to the victims on the ground. what i mean, even the children in human rights commission has been saying it may claim what human rights watch i'm listening to national has been saying from the get go. i think
there was lots of pressure, not just from donor nations, from, from all of us. they can because they impact the faces. i mean, i mean, they just have to be accounted for. there are too many of them. all right, well, we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much to all of our guests and we will get you the tisha bader and adam cassie abbey. and thank you to for watching. you can see this and all of our previous programs. again, anytime by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter or handle its at ha, inside store for me, how much room and a whole team here, bye for now. the oh, the world's lungs are being seen. the amazon rain for it is diminishing the rate of
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