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play again i'm fully back to bowl with the headlines on al-jazeera israel's prime minister has promised an investigation after at least 24 people were killed in a stampede at a religious festival it happened in mount meron where up 220-0000 ultra-orthodox jews had gathered fossett has more from merrill the prime minister's spokesman has been tweeting about it saying that it was the overcrowding that led to a stampede which in turn led to the partial collapse of a structure that people were standing on so that is the the closest thing we've had to sort of an official proximate cause of what took place but of course there are much wider questions being asked about the nature of all this as well. in india several states say they've already run out of koran a virus jobs a day before the country sought its vaccination drive for all adults above the age of 18 new infections across india have reached a new high with 386000 cases reported in the last 24 hours for sale meanwhile
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is marking another bleak milestone in the corona virus pandemic after the number of deaths passed 400008 quarter of the fatalities were recorded this month for sale is only the 2nd country after the us to reach that figure the country has reported 14500000 cases. there's been gunfire on the southern border between kyrgyzstan and hours after a cease fire violence began over river infrastructure on the disputed boundary at least 13 people have been killed in the heaviest fighting in the years and a lawyer defending kremlin critic alexei navalny has reportedly been detained even pavlov is defending the corruption foundation and is accused of disclosing classified information on thursday in of on the last an appeal against a conviction for defaming a world war 2 veteran those are the headlines inside stories next on our stay with us.
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somalia's president backed down from extending his term by 2 years but there's no clear path to elections and the political crisis is triggering unrest in the capital so could the turmoil spark a new conflict this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm homage in june when the somali president's term expired in february he tried to extend it by 2 years but after facing opposition from within and outside the country how much of
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a farmer joe is backing down he's called for preparations to hold the ladle lections but for all joe and his opponents haven't been able to agree on how that vote should go ahead rival factions have been fighting in the capital mogadishu and the shabab is seizing the opportunity to extend its grip the armed groups said it was behind a car bomb that killed at least 3 people outside the national prisons authority headquarters it's feared the turmoil could lead to a new conflict as catherine sawyer reports. president mohammad up to life maja's address to the nation was tough but the same time provided an offer to unlock the political statement he accused the opposition leaders of politicizing the security forces trying to cause. and grab power and some foreign countries of meddling in somalia in tunnel affairs but he also pedaled back on the controversial law passed by the lower house of parliament to extend his time in office by 2 yes'
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and have the electoral commission organize a popular vote within that time i'm no good or the hun bulk of the federal governments of somalia has always believed and still sees dialogue compromise negotiation and the return to the discussion table as the only viable options on the ring the september 17th 20 twentieth's remans and the recommendations on the election model call upon all of the signatories of the agreement to come together immediately for discussions. the september greenman says the country will hold and in direct election where. members of parliament who in time vote in a president talks between the government leaders from the federal state and others have a stalwart with a different side accusing each other of derailing the process some analysts say the president of the decision to extend doesn't change the political contest over management of the election and the mistrust between politicians.
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between the different groups and. the un has failed to do that and so unless the african union or somebody else. i don't think they will come to. forward. and the rest of the country from the crisis was tensions have been building for a while and the crisis. has drawn in the military and police force which you say to be divided along political lines government and paul opposition forces fought on sunday in mogadishu and there are reports the opposition forces hold positions in several parts of the city people have been fleeing libya homes fearing more conflict but some a hopeful that the presidents message will deescalate tensions and politicians will find a middle ground to hold an election soon catherine sign. the unrest is the 2nd
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bout of violence in mogadishu over 4 maggio's bid to stay in power and many fear the dispute will further divide somalia's armed forces that are drawn from different clans president for module belongs to one of the main clans that iraq where the majority of the military in the capital and most opposition leaders belong to the how we there's growing concern there could be a return of clan based violence that followed the overthrow of mohamed bari in 1901 the nation hasn't had a stable central government since then a new internationally backed government was installed in 2012 but his struggle to assert control beyond mogadishu. all right this spring in our guests in mogadishu i'm going to be a member of parliament and former deputy prime minister in toronto with an alley a development and humanitarian expert and co-founder of lead now a somali women's political pressure group and also in mogadishu. housen
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a security analyst and former director general of somalia's defense ministry a warm welcome to you all i'm going to let me start with you today why did president for module finally give up on extending his term was it because of mounting pressure from both the international community and from domestic groups. to a few common thank you very much were given the submission with at least 2. well you have it of only and say what i think is actually to be total so many people also welcome my 2 sisters why but i know very well one of them. my present actually my mother have provided no. actual nothing precious about it anybody but what i'm telling you is actually according to the rules and regulations of the country that according to the constitution it's actually when the present sees the situation of the country and this is actually the members of the federal stages and also the prime minister and the consult with the speaker of the parliament
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that's when he actually decided to come back to the parliament i'm actually. asked the bottoming to come on saturday and he will actually promise the current situation of the country so it's not something that has been person i think by the way you know that would or the be able to rise well according to the course of the country you know that surely. one of our constitution face you know if you're aware that. someone is if it in a so and sovereign and it democratically bob a pundit exclusive representation of the people multi-party system and social justice according to that according to that actually article of the 1st constituent our amendment. is actually a commitment to come back to the betterment and exactly to tell us. but he made it it's uncertain time to think of the kind of spirit of the country that there will
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be more of the peace on people so that's the kind of the president that supposed to have so many people john there been clashes in mogadishu the past few days between forces loyal to president for module and units loyal to the opposition how tense is the situation now and what's the level of concern that fighting might get worse going forward yes there has been clashes but now destruction is on left to the political does a political momentum right now has been shown by make clearly there has been meetings between now and again the president will imprison and that the and notify the extension and it was welcomed by both the president and the prime minister and now we see the prime minister going to meet. him in syria to be a session on saturday so that's sort of calm the tensions violence but unless there is a long term political agreement and the way forward is the level of uncertainty can create. a lot of challenges going forward or what you who have been john
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was just talking about the potential for instability let me ask you how much has the political stalemate in somalia created uncertainty for the somali people and also for the security forces. i think when someone is in that state right now will we ever be. politically and also from security perspective. the current situation arising from the state may still may resulting in an illegal extension passed by parliament signed by the president. and i correct myself is not the parliament it's the lower house that signed it and passed it to the president signed has brought us to the brink of war and also we've seen backlash between the 2 forces that mentions. that you know. at this point in 22 into one for somalia to be threatened and all the shit to be under under fire it's quite
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saddening for most of us and to see hundreds hundreds of thousands of people meet the capital at this time and some of that has been also a horrifying scene to watch i want to go back to the comment the question they asked earlier the pressure both international community and at home give rise to the president coming back in not fighting the label extension absolutely and there's been mounting pressure both of them's national community internally obviously with the insecurity that has been going on but also within the government actions. the kind minister calling for a ceasefire the state the federal state members also rejecting the extension so i think all of this added to. has pushed the president to to attract more meaning that it's that his. parliament. has momentum the president has
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so that it been an extension to begin with was and we. all know i hope will the current political negotiations will yield fruits and move the country towards an election in the way from by. and i'm going to come on president for module as you mentioned in your previous answer has said that he is going to appear before parliament on saturday in order to gain their endorsement for the electoral process that was agreed upon he's talking about the september 17th agreement that had been cobbled together last year than later fell apart do you believe that that can actually get done will the lower house of parliament agree to this when he appears before the. yes definitely because in the 1st place that the solution has been actually you know met an unlighted by the city of concern of the council of ministers. and they actually submitted to the parliament. by the time they got to
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the parliament we translated it into a law and then the president actually signed it degree on that 17 of of it 17 of us a term that actually. a law which has been signed by the president is the actually the most important the one that everybody is supposed to actually accept it but what our understanding is and people they don't want story consider is why after almost all these people achieve the premium the country of the people wants to leave the country tomorrow actually creating all these kyra's and at same time calling the people not just into their homes i'm actually get away from that house but if the president comes on saturday and asks the parliament again immediately after the parliament will actually discuss i'm a low actually to reestablish and they bid on it and they establish actually the same row make it back we're back to that really so it's easy to sit there which
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actually was used to be a political agreement between the premier the member states somalia all of them during actually the summit in a in in the summer of 1234 in with asia and that but it's going to be meant if you look actually kept in their own way they actually sent it to the parliament by the time they sent to the parliament and the betterment actually making it low and the president signs that that into a degree with the actually giving autarky to the right of people to use that the grid or do you think actually it will actually go back to them again and again and again the mind of the present. is there yes to explain why i have to be going back on what the reason we're actually is actually b.j. we know a lot of us because our country you know he's going to actually a situation that we suppose according to what my system has been said now we have to actually come to the people and the same time we up to actually. creating that.
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and replace that no into the previous vote so differently but it will mean that it will accept actually to go back because of tampa and condition of the jihad and there are opposition forces who abandon positions in other parts of the country these are frontline positions in some instances against al shabaab in order to travel to mogadishu and take up positions there there are reports that a ship has taken over at least one town as a result of this vacuum that has developed so how much concern is there that will further exploit any security vacuum and make more gains going forward. you know i don't like to point out of position forces because at the end of the day this out so my security forces that i why. they have the they also want to keep its forces no matter which wing they are right now fighting against or the faction between
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them yes as you know so much security forces what will cheney in equates to fight the enemy that is. and the threat that al shabaab will pull is still there and it's going to be there before until there is so much security forces united against that yes we know many forces have left the front of 32 bases and that is we have a lot of time in the short term impact not only with security and morning hours but also for the chance of the civilians that mean not the force of a key to it because always when you're fighting a good income to insurgency you need to win the hearts and minds of the city remains that you want there to protect so book 800 m.l.'s wish and make this right now and future it will endure and shailene the financial regime that all security forces which right now look on the arrow is the challenge back in shabab right now we can see
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a broken chain of command we can see are and as you know every security falls right now has we're going to much in a whole month was that is the child brings an issue yesterday we have seen a an excellent as to whether the i mean someone told us you miscue be chief of news and there was a meeting us and i yes i'm here in mogadishu so right now i think the main priority should be for the also my security forces to refocus and prioritize backing the training that was then this is all fairly complicated i want to look for a moment at the september 17th agreement that had been cobbled together and then later fell apart when it came to the elections i mean this had called for the election the federal lawmakers through indirect elections. it had been agreed to but then it fell apart in the election was delayed because of disputes between the federal government and different states like puntland in juba land along with the opposition. what has to happen now for an agreement on how to conduct
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the elections going forward because even if the lower house of parliament agrees to to this agreement again. that doesn't really solve the problem does it really doesn't the fundamental problem right now is the lack of trust between the state borders i mean that's due to you know clear violations that we've seen over the past 6 to 8 modes so i think. obviously if we haven't was signed by the president. or the other stakeholders but there were several challenges within how to implement that and that's then to you know total collapse of the talks followed by. you know attacks that were. once on the flop and this is further you know who are really the themes of the
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conditions so fundamentally right now it's not about the process let's say of. the people it is in how does that whether that for us looks like it who needs the part of. instructions obviously you know mass 6 to 8 months been having just one president and the rest leader is having pox and then each time the next they're side we don't really know exactly what goes on the special. where the african union has announced on board to be dispatched to show how priscilla think that discussion ended and that's in part and i think that probably is the saving going. right now that. has that someone impartial in the matter actually.
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i don't manhood and it was just talking about the fact that the a you is going to be sending an envoy to try to facilitate dialogue let me ask you specifically about that i know that a president for marjoe has called for dialogue to happen are we going to see dialogue or are we going to see negotiations who from your perspective is going to be mediating in any potential negotiations that are going forward. i think it is actually supposed to be it's money driven so money lead dialogue and this is actually traditionally and culturally we always used. we have been doing it for the . last couple years i mean. if you see the somali people mostly they don't they don't come and actually just stock they always talk fully and totally according to the course is history saying that actually
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is going to come we'll actually see the in between actually the for the member states and underdone the visit of the for the republic. maybe he will consult separately each one you know an actual to consult and discuss with actually with the seminars and that he wants to talk but some analysts will sit down together we'll discuss about this issues but i would like to actually remind everybody one thing which is very important this political agreement which has been made in actually the some rep has been actually i mean a couple times you know actually when it was 1st actually stablished by the council of ministers. last year and it was brought to the parliament we translated it into a law and you remember it was actually a signal consistency and closeness model of election with rejected it actually that actually was proposed by the president himself by his council of ministers and then the present by the time he has seen that the parliamentarians rejected it agreed
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with them. helpfully and he signed the degree by the time he did that we went back to what we can actually see in that election and that actually what they'll be working on it in the it was not a meeting of the member member for the member states and the president and the prime minister that was after that time or you're sitting with them the a greet by the time they couldn't come back here they brought it to the present really to the parliament and we have something to agree to and we made it a lot if you remember that last actually because at the low number of pity used to be number 20 but by actually excellence the president has to share my mood but never actually made it the same law limited to the same thing action is happening the direction would be continuing it but it's still 17th temba agreement. i don't know how to work ok you accept it because some of them are too
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they might actually insist sitting seeing something which is ridiculous out. there which the bottom at either hand of the breast and i'm sorry i'm sorry to interrupt you just we're starting to run out of time and i want to i want to go over to john and ask another question real quick john given the level of distrust among politicians in somalia now which you had referred to earlier what happens next i mean what has to happen for this political dispute to get resolved and what happens if it does not get resolved thank you 1st week for the president you need the full human rights that will that. as well and said and also on arrival it be indicated it has been always talks between the 4 so many dishes and they have the reserve red line between the 2 sides in name i know it's time to mediation eyes it's going to be a slow money and mediation or it's going to be supported by. special envoy coming
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in to be attacked that's where i think be a real negotiations mediation and a dialogue and it's like in minutes if that doesn't happen in the in the short course for the level of uncertainty it's very i think the hope there's a lot of hopes being lost it's a little until now people have known about the allegations and there you can imagine the level of load you know we have the progress made we have a great form it meaning in terms of rebuilding our security forces if a national economic order reforms of the overall reform forces of the john john i'm step john i'm sorry to interrupt you we just have about a minute left but i do want to ask then one last question when you heard jim there at talk about people who have been fleeing their homes and you mentioned that earlier we only have about a minute left let me ask you how scared are civilians right now. i think there was a sigh of relief by civilians both in the shop but the global somali there and we
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are very pleased that right now things have calmed and tensions are no but the potential for violence is very intense unless we find political appointments and i just want to make a. comment. what we need to do as someone is i mean this is has to be a sum of money on the let process of finding a political solution but however we need to understand that you know in this in this age. no longer interested in one man rule or where men show anything that has been clear in the mask particularly one week there is a myth to you know the silence in sort of. you know the gnat gnat gnat reacting what you see who to show is citizens reacting against the inability to actually go to elections we have you know everyone's got
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a right to their views but we don't have the right to create alternative facts the facts are somebody must hold elections every 4 years and there isn't actually has to be consensus in and sort of everybody meaning to the outcomes of that election we cannot risk any. opportunities to go back slide into the years of violence so i think it's good and i want to call on everyone to continue on the dialogue into make sure that the citizens not just the show all over somalia and outside of somalia feel that you know they can they can live in peace in compete in the global war that obviously with their many challenges there is called it is meant in crisis in somalia. you know 80 percent of the country is facing drought so there are serious challenges that we cannot afford to have this political conundrum continue all right we've run out of time so we're going to have to leave the conversation there thank you so much to all of our guests to be with an alley and
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