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it's politics music ace politics the state t.v. channel if the propaganda megaphone for dictatorship look at. the president of the state of t.v. company if dissensions least for crimes or for want from human rights so. to involve them in such an event it is to make politics. clear that this is al-jazeera these are the headlines joe biden says the u.s. vaccination campaign is on target and has ordered states to ensure all adults are eligible by may fast by the ones that the fight against private 19 though is far from over he's adding people to get vaccinated and to keep social distancing and wearing masks when i came in office you may recall i set a goal that many you said was a kind of way over the top i said i intended to get
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a 100000000 shots in people's arms in my 1st 100 days in office tonight i can say we're not going to meet that goal we're going to beat that goal because we've actually on track to reach this goal of 100000000 shots in the arms of my 60th day in office no other country in the world has done this none meanwhile other health officials in brazil are warning that hospitals in major cities are nearly full the covered $1000.00 daily death toll exceeded 2000 for the 2nd day running on fast day now there are reports that gunmen have kidnapped students from a college in northern nigeria they have duction happened in katrina station northwest of nigeria and this is the latest in a series of school attacks but the most recent being a mass kidnapping in zamfara state last month. south korea is suspending defense
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exchanges and banning arms exports to myanmar it's the latest countries a cup tie is after the military coup security forces are being accused of torture and persecution in their response to peaceful protests. the u.s. says some hopeful progress has been made towards a cease fire in yemen but it says more commitment is needed from the warring parties special envoy timothy linda king made that assessment after visiting the region yemen has now been at war for more than 6 years tributes have been pouring in off to south africa's zulu king died at the age of 72 the zulu nation says good was well a teeny had been in hospital for weeks to treat diabetes when his health took a turn for the worse king's brother to me was the leader of south africa's largest ethnic group and he served as monarch for 5 decades well those are the headlines i'll have more news for you here on al-jazeera after the stream to stay with us. want to i'll just see the room. you told me with the government you represent is
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now religious reasons we listen we do not see the fence material in any country you can't leave in yemen we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that. i am femi ok and you are watching the stream china is preparing to host the winter olympics in 2022 but should it be allowed to a growing number of groups are saying no they are concerned about the culture human rights record especially beijing's treatment of its minority weak up muslim population what are your thoughts you can share them in a live chat and be part of today's discussion. the united nations says that at least $1000000.00 we have been detained in mass
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prison camps in the region in recent years activists say that prisoners have been subjected to torture forced labor and of mass sterilization and a new independent report has found china to be in breach of all 5 acts of genocide as defined by united nations despite growing evidence china has denied any wrongdoing in changing the country's foreign minister recently said that beijing's treatment of weakness was a shining example of china's human rights progress and this week a former minister spokes person criticize boycott schools. even when they are do good some western parliaments have even gone so far as to pass bills approaching be absurd frost the tories with facts slanders and smears trying or shorter and up and damaging their own reputation and making themselves. and now more countries are starting to openly challenge china's narrative top officials in at least 3
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countries the united states canada and the netherlands have recently condemned beijing's treatment of the weaker people as genocide rights groups and now politicians corporate sponsors and athletes to boycott the olympics joining us to discuss this is moment john jr he is the deputy director of radio free asia is weak as service on us out is an attorney and africa it and sophie richardson is china director of human rights watch all 3 guests are based in washington d.c. welcome to i guess i have to say that we also asked chinese government officials to join us they declined but they responded immediately they sent us quotes from the foreign ministry of spokespeople who for ready made quotes and comments in different news articles it is really good to see you again this is a difficult topic for us to to wrestle with because why why we still talking about this year's. years later let me show you one china government officials response to
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a lot of the increased knowledge about what is happening to the weak as in china picture number one wake up people as seen by the general public in their daily lives up in china picking up a 2 week of people inching jiang while china by the western media amid the intensifying saunders' against china. john number one what do you say hey this is supposed to be real life in china what are you saying here that the great picture by the way but whenever we look at the chinese media training leaders and the people traders dancing all the time look at the pure you see people dancing we say people have not seen my legs for years for many people yes. this is what this is how holding camp you know this is how the west according to china say is the way to people and these are the some of the people who are in
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canada or australia and turkey these people have relatives in the camps who have lost their parents. even children who they can't they're searching for their relatives actually and they are given voices and the media actually on the contrary trying to i didn't give any voice any permission for them to speak to the relatives even make it on call so these are the people portrayed and given the space under vested media actually i had you have been on the stream in fact so famous you've all been on the storm over the years you've been telling us increasingly how the situation for the winter people is coming was what is different right now in terms of the information we know right. well 1st i just want to jump in on the last comment you know that is not the proper representation of the general public if
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anything my family as a general public and i'm looking for my brother and my pin straight now like i mean i can't imagine excruciating. or parents still looking for a girl missing son for almost 5 years and if you look at that picture it really show this chinese government's very anti muslim narrative yes and the picture on the right one. selectively presented pictures a more conservative or you get people against the pictures on the left you know like community have been you don't have as community say once when he jabber in the 2nd picture. i mean heavy messaging there seems like and shows no racism and islamophobia anti muslim. sentiment of the chinese government so let's be clear on the facts because you know people like me like who are
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basically still looking for their family members and that is the community but i just feel like i need to jump in on that to make this a pitch at a picture says a 1000 wasn't there so much depth and that picture again let me just go back to this so where are we right now there were not some allegations a lot and you were telling us about festival people just disappearing and i know you have personal stories over and you've got personal stories so for you a look at this from a human rights position what has changed where we are right now in 2021. well i think some of the newest in even though we've got about the extent of forced labor. that people who are arbitrarily detained are also now being made to work through things like labor transfer programs but the scope. of it all camps one dimensional we would talk to them until recently with the skyrocket.
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you know we think as opposed to the numbers of people who are simply being put in arbitrary detention facilities and it's hard to tell what exactly has driven mad but we're extremely concerned because not only will these people out of have fair trials but also the sentences that people aren't getting are horrifically long the average has gone from about 5 years on baseless charges now to upwards of a decade baseless charges and i think that you know largely speaks to the chinese government's agenda of keeping people silent and i'm reachable and breaking apart families and you know. china every article in the genocide convention says illegal report on weekends right. now in fact i'm actually part of the team that presented the world it's clear and convincing
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evidence that china actually being responsible for committing ongoing genocide in breach of the genocide convention and the clear and convincing. evidence that it is a pretty high stress hold for me and for those of you your audience who don't understand the legal standard and that's what this report does you know we came together more than 50 independent legal experts as well as regional experts and that is a fact and aren't i think so free mention a really good point right now b.c. internment camps are being turned into premier prison camps hoping larch members are that innocent where you good people and you know i just found out and recently that my brother is actually since january 2019 as being held in solitary confinement just think about a for a 2nd when a young man who walks into these internment camps and after more than 2 and
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a half years there holding solitary confinement what does that do to your physical and mental health you know i can imagine like what what kind of life he's living he looked like a ghost in a few minutes we deal that the chinese government showed and it's absolutely despicable it's considered to be torture under the international norms what the tennis game is doing to my own brother and millions of innocent people who and this is a very basic question before people who are just trying to understand why will china do this why with a holiday why would such a terrible state he said he was skin and bones when you go lots to and you caught him on a video can you explain just just. why would china davis look i think at the end of the day the hate actually became
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a state policy there's so much to keep the good racism against people if the fact in fact if i could quote a chinese official what he said is that we're trying to turn weaker people to normal people. who speaks like that from like when you are targeting and make group and say look we're turning them to normal so our we have normal is that the statement my brother is like a very successful entrepreneur who's doing years by the chinese government and milky came to the united states on a state department sponsored program then he they labeled him as the enemy of the state so the leaked official documents off the chinese government surveilled that people could be targeted for many reasons one being obviously ethnic group it could be religious persecution as well as just being young and one truly devastating aspect of this intellectuals the finest we good society is the prime her target
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for these prison camps and when you target the best of the society the shippers and movers of that society then you would lay the foundation to commit genocide much and i would love it will help here as a journalist because you are personally connected to what is happening in china for your own family members but you also reporting the story so here on my laptop is a night of nations genocide convention as a journalist can you just go for one to 5 killing members of the group evidence of that please mamma. yes. because the fishermen rights groups and according to some new news confirmation that we are a complaint from the local areas and if they come. indicate that actually some reports at in one camp that we confirmed $150.00 people
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died in it and it's short time period so and. some people are died after they were being released so even though we cannot confirm mass mass deaths in the camps but after happening that that's for sure and at this moment like we talked about the 50500000 where your kids are being kept rated from their families they're still held in the government that's number 5 for simply just transferring children of the going to a novel yet causing same assassinate and mental harm to members of the people we heard about rihanna's brother that that's number 2 number 3 in fact inflicting conditions calculated to bring about the pope's physical destruction in holland pot this is huge what is that you know i'm hot. well much of that is resemble
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that could be we can say that. there are some subjected to mental and physical torture in the camps and outside the camps they're subjected to brainwashing. they're subjected to abolish their. cultural identity for example. they're living spaces living freedom and from every aspect of being kind of a restricted china and many many chinese officials to stay with the weakest family to monitor them and we get women is forcefully sterilized and natural birth rate is plummeted for example in cost care alone 60 percent from 2015 to 2019 so when they were forced to this kind of oppression i believe that that would cause physical and mental harm to their body so now we are calling the filtration what it is genocide. is
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a situation that's coming up which is the olympics coming up in 2020 tunes and this is something to often who we spoke to is thinking about now is what or what is happening right now to we the people also miss thinking about the olympics and how data strategize around the olympics i will have a listen. the chinese regime at the moment is simply incapable in unwilling to address its treatment of the weaker population and what i mean treatment i mean the genocide that is happening in the 21st century because for far too long countries and governments have a piece china both politically and economically china one day became this democratic liberal and free nation but there simply hasn't happened in fact it's gotten worse. now that beijing 2022 olympics is right around the corner it is a chance for individuals organizations companies countries and governments to take a stance and say china we do not support your genocide games but the question is
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how much are those entities willing to give up how much influence power and money are the are they willing to give up the soft power that china offers them sophia's knotting i'm going to put this to sophie but not before i read out the statement from the i say the international olympic committee recognizes the whole human rights but has neither the mandate nor the capability to change the laws of the political system of a sovereign country that's what the i.o.c. says so what do you say. the i.o.c. has the power to swear games are out and about sounds and i think it was a real mistake to to another round of kings in china to have any clear. path to list for human rights abuses the transitoriness did not live up to the
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promises that they made beijing are going to get both games in the 1st place and the reality of the 12 years later. the chinese government is committing human rights violations of a scope and scale that we haven't seen since the 19898001 square massacre. so the idea of karen. if feel good event which the human spirit is celebrated well carrying around her arithmetic violations . really i think strained community and it's going to be an obvious rallying point i think not just for the human community and we're on target most of the opera but i think it can be very interesting to see how athletes who are very outspoken risk . to having to compete in this environment but john i'm just looking hannah i know you don't mind me showing you real progress story your brother still missing is
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a tweet what you said he's punished because of your wealth that role as asia he's innocent in china knows it should be released unconditionally what difference does an upcoming olympics make to stories like yours and other people is it enough pushing little can you get lashed international attention with china baseplate in any way. like i said my brother my judgment was a high school teacher and writer. his taken away 270 and in recent news indicates that he might have been sentenced and he didn't commit any any any crimes at all like many other innocent leaguers who are in the camps and or turn to to to to to the prisons later so like sophia mentioned in 2018 many international communities argue that the olympics would encourage china to improve their human rights records but china didn't. honor
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any promises that china i gave coming it promises he gave to the international community at the time and told late years later we are witnessing genocide according to reports in quoting to the us government and i don't know yet if it brings any change to that to the chinese society it even writes why but people would say that politicizing olympics is not right but olympics is a politics for china when it's coming it's regime they use that. value or opportunity to legitimize its illegal regime so we try to set it because of that we've made china it world state country while this chicago was not permitted to hold the olympics beijing is given this opportunity to hold on to the 1st night and to hold and a winter olympics was an extraordinary let me share some of the comments on you
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going to ask you to do a very efficient very brief response as each of us i appreciate your questions pfaff one i think governments especially with the muslim majority populations should be seen as they condemn china full 8th ethnic genocide and also call for more independent investigations into the weekend camps so if you take that one just a quick response back to step one i couldn't agree with that person or it's incredibly important to hear those government speak up and we think that an independent investigation is the obvious next step that's what the world does in the face of human rights crises this is but this is terrible i'm going to give this one to you right this is terrible how can we let this go on and it's 2021 this is modern day holocaust right again. yes reluctance go on because we remain as biased that many countries are doing so so your line of this genocide report i would like to see serious diplomatic accountability i'm part of every
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country especially bill simon rejoicing only doing so then we could prevent that we could deter the chinese government from continuing to destroy this group as a whole or in part as the genocide commercial laid out so it's time to take action be a part of change couple of ideas hey mama and i'm going to ask you to just respond very quickly and more spoiled stock about inefficient trade blockade a little bit what happened in south africa with apartheid to try and force apartheid to end a lead to more says the nelson nation alone is not enough financial pressure will welcome back to my much on financial pressure with that well with china some companies are trying and they suck but they said tough situation for many country for example because china will use that if the 2nd biggest economy in the world but economy is the big thing big issue for the chinese we're going to stay in
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power so if they regain our 1st from a kind of italy it might change its behavior but it depends on the big companies based on the united states and around the world that played a role in holding chinese government accountable for the atrocity committing against leaders and human rights violations as well as genocide when we talk about genocide i'm asking you beginning what. has changed what's different now from the many conversations we've had over the last few years one of the things i have noticed as a journalist at the stream is notice is that there's more a way and yes we spoke to a number of different people who wanted to contribute sad thoughts to this discussion and this is what i told us have a listen have a lot. perforations aren't really challenging the chinese government on this matter for the olympics it seems like a lot of corporations are turning
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a blind eye on the. page 2022 is a point of pride for the regime but what we need to do is create a diplomatic one to show the women that we were governments around the world who have the power to send a strong message to beijing saying that they will not accept the genocide against we were use the repression against the battens hungers mainland chinese people i'm just thinking sophie rahab at the very end of the show so a single thought about now what happens next we know we have evidence we know what is happening for the most part of the week that people now want sophie human rights perspective it's absolutely imperative that there be an independent investigation that then makes recommendations. for her. or her project and his government sense of impunity now right and i had you know the
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chinese official said if people in she and john are living such a happy like then give us unfettered access to the region and secondly the mission of the olympics is build a better world a lobbying and perpetual genocide to host this wonderful sports event would only allow us to be complicit in this genocide it's time for us to boycott. john i ran i always really appreciate you because you bring your own personal pain in you share it with us and you continue to campaign. now what it is. it's a very tough question actually. so weak we should keep fighting keep pounding the ground. and like. he mentioned that unfettered access should be given to see and investigate the region and not only handpicked
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journalists by the chinese government but other journalists including us should be given permission to go and investigate what happened and compare the veracity of the chinese government statement. not like always cutting out from max i think that the region and holding our relatives at hockey are used against us and to stop us finally if it does not really help the situation with a change while at john wright and so forth thank you so much. extended gasohol that always come back and update us on what is happening with the people in china we really don't that for us again today i love. thank you very much for watching i'll see you next time i'll take it.
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then they choose news as it breaks with schools continuously being targeted especially in northern parts of nigeria then up here the region 2 towns with highest rates of poverty before it will fall behind with detail coverage of the scenario being not the reason campaign was temporarily suspended because there weren't enough vaccine from around the world these volunteers well be routinely tested for private instead they'll be getting regular blood samples leak. it's one of the biggest clubs in south america. but its greatest rival is just a few blocks away. a mutual dislike between funds formed from
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