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tv   The Stream 2020 Ep 102  Al Jazeera  July 1, 2020 7:32am-8:00am +03

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very clearly we are now having 40 plus 1000 new cases a day i would not be surprised if we go up to $100000.00 a day if this does not turn around $35000.00 schools have reopened in thailand as it eases code 19 restrictions the government made assurances that all precautions are being taken off the concern among students parents and teachers. one person's been killed and 7 others wounded during a largely peaceful protest and that drew hundreds of thousands of people the protesters want justice for those killed during and after the rule of former president omar al bashir security forces in the capital used tear gas to break up the crowds those were the headlines the news continues on al-jazeera after the stream station watching left. to use their own we. ask you how worried you are about the increase in hostilities in yemen we listen this is the
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moment to stop all the 30 action this is the moment. on fighting we meet with global news makers the stories the 00. i am for me ok you are watching the stream today we are going to take deep into the plot lives matter and the men and talk about way we fit into it but if you know you'll be l m history you know that we started the movement so what are we talking about today i'll show you this tweet we very often ask our online community what are the stories you'll for and what would you like us to talk about on the stream to mina says the lack of focus and justice for black women and trans women's lines within the black ice matter movement that is our discussion there is so much to unpack you 2 can do that if you own you tube right now jump into the chat and you'll be part of today's conversation.
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that is say hello to the guest the guests will introduce themselves to you how kimberly welcome back it's been a long time teller he never asked well i'm a professor of law at columbia and u.c.l.a. law school and i'm also the executive director of the african american policy forum when 2014 began to say her name hash tag and campaign to draw attention to the fact that black women are also killed by the police and it's important that we say their name so their stories can be part of the movement thank you so much for being on the show today the minister welcome back to the state in about 5 minutes i think is the link and remind us what you did why during this conversation. well i am such a probiotic woman it's not even funny my men are i mean activists i am
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very much a black feminist and i'm a rabble rouser and i'm happy to be here to talk about the ratio of black women. thank you so much and a special hello and welcome to the string to gina best gina tell everybody who you are why you are critical to today's conversation. i am here today representing my daughter i am the mother of all taker one a new black woman who has unfortunately been erased. arsal i was contacted by dr kimberly and when she reached out to help me in 2015 when india was killed by virginie beach police swat team with my 4 month old grandson in the backseat of her car so i'm here today directly as a result of the outreach of dr kimberly and say her name and i also am part of the state her name mother's network. we're amplifying all of our daughters and all
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black women and trans women who've been killed by police. gina we were just looking at your twitter banner and i'm just going to read it because in the 2 lines you tell the extraordinary story of what happened to your daughter india case so you are india cagas mother on twitter mother of india innocent navy vet killed by the genial beach police then the date $530.00 rounds into her parts car that's the swat team with a full month old baby son in the back seat exclamation mark that is your daughter and then let me start the conversation with you this is julie julie to says the stories of the men told a much louder than the women i can list so many of the men but struggle sometimes to remember the names of as sisters she says also it's the same phenomenon the missing a murdered indigenous women in canada so let's talk about say her name black women's
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lives matter why is it that we can name dozens of black men who were murdered in similar circumstances or caught employees who tallaght situations but if we say india kagan who knows and i think. we unfortunately what exists in our society right now that we're fighting against him why the movement for say her name is still paramount is that just as you said the names of black men who have been killed by police are on the lips and tongue of pretty much everyone because the that is the name those are the names that are elevated and amplified where the names of our daughters and what black women who've been killed by police the there has been suppression and out not only suppression but also the complete there's been there ignored and erased because unfortunately we are still contending with
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and i'm going to call it the patriarchy that exists in a society where women have no place not in life nor in death to be nice to the word aren't regret. i mean he's got head. yeah i did i went to how i just 1st of all # you know i think i met you a few years ago and i'm so sorry again for your loss because and the fact that it's been erased because i'm tired of it i've just gotten past the point so one of the things i'm thinking about is when you reference the patriarchy i think that's so important talk about because you know we have these markers of manhood in our society you know the ability to protect provide you know have children or you know procreate and then you know this whole like sexual prowess and manliness and one of the things that historically black men have not been able to do is protect black women from races nihilists and things like that and so i think honestly it's
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embarrassment it's like if we don't talk about it then we don't have to remind the world that we're not really so called men because we can't even protect our own women from police matter and you know generations of this like every time a black man tries to stand up and protect a black woman or a child he's killed or injured that gets in grains and sue out you know they think about let's not even bother so right now i think it's really difficult for people to admit that black women are being killed by the police because then it's an adult men on black men which again goes to nature anything that happens to women is always an indictment on the men of a community so rather not say it so we don't have to confront it and deal with the embarrassment that we can't save our women to protect our women yes that that's profound right there and i think it plays in so much to a whole range of things that we don't talk about in our community because it goes back to the inability for men to protect but i would
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add to that that there is patriarchy in the sense that that cost is tolerable the cost non-speaking out the cast of not being who you know are women in . in the conversation one thing that gina said in a pod cast we just did 'd a special edition of intersectionality matters featuring the story of indicator and one thing that just blew me away i was asking gina about what the response of the community was to this egregious outrageous action on the part of virginia police that shot all these rounds into the car knowing that india was in the car knowing she had nothing to do with any wrongdoing knowing the baby had nothing to do with any wrongdoing what were people saying and edginess gina i think you know put her finger on it when she said in these collateral damage situations where
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a black woman finds herself in the crosshairs of the police what people tend to say is a what did you do ron to put yourself in that situation what you wish your responsibility for it and when i heard that i think this is rape culture as applied to danny's violence we start with what are all of the decisions that the victim made that put earning in the line of fire and if we can come up with some justification to say well you know you should've been with the guy there's no outrage about what the police actually did and so there's an excellent way that patriarchy shapes i believe all of the ways that women 5 women stories are interpreted and you know even though they don't even really say that when men get killed there's really not a conversation of well why was eric garner 6 selling those loosies or why was like brown walking in the middle of the street people realize that none of those things
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can justify police violence but when i mean it they can come up with a story absolutely you can generate as a journalist i do see it i think i see the story says divil and. yes the outrage about how the killing that was not justified and then be might be a little bits of another story comes out oh well he's been in prison before oh well blah blah blah blah so we. still see through but it seems that it's not as to why not if there are lines out where he just expressed right and then let's go to sleep let's do it as like our own we can manage it yeah it's a lot it is ok and we say things and that's what pains the last let's do. so let me just bring in. his agenda consultant and she's being stinking about these issues but with the a range of black women let's have a listen to. there is your black woman and black lives matter speaks the
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pervasiveness of patriarchy and sexism this is seen who is being memorialized for driving the movement and whose lives are being centered in the immediate narrative there is not only harmful because it contributes to a narrow understanding of who the movement is for whatever reasons but her moves are gender specific ways in which black women experience racism from the movement's agenda in order to adequately disrupt the system threatening violence there needs to be a greater understanding of how the systems of white supremacy and patriarchy intersect and inform each other this must manifest and more attentiveness the sexism within the movement and a deliberate effort to amplify the voices and stories of women and part of their entire worlds within the movement. gina tell us about this is there any way you want to speak an event and you asked people how many people knew your daughter how many people with and how many people put up the hands well it was thousands and it was here in i live in howard county maryland which is primarily. well it's.
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primarily a 9 millimeter after black people when i was there was enough. out of thousands maybe 15 i was standing up on a point and maybe 15 people raised their hands and from my vantage point of course tears in my eyes at that moment but it was enough to see that even in maryland even here a navy that that no one knew and in his life doesn't need to quantify but beneath that but no one knew about the egregious way in which she will start an attack with flash bang grenades and murdered by the beach with her baby in the car no one and. let let me just add one other thing than that she also you know said as she got a bill for it you know the virginia police these police gina best a bill for the destruction of the car that her daughter was killed and that this is
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the level of the disregard for our lives from black people's lives and black women and their children are part of that you know that that exercise that that i started doing in 2015 continues i would ask everybody to stand up and i would say when you hear the name of someone that you don't recognize sit down so i would say eric garner my ground to where ra is aligned across the aisle and almost everywhere most people were still standing the moment i sent michelle casella everyone sat down there might be 5 people still standing and i get to indicate or no one is left in either town showed up to actually feel. can we let this moment pass because there are lots of people on you tube right now who are having a rich conversation see me the we are having. a tell us about michelle so that they go away everyone goes away knowing more of the will. is is in
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some ways her death kicked off saying her name michelle was killed 5 days after mike brown was killed there was no media attention there was no conversation there was this growing consciousness of course about black people being killed by the police the intolerable dimension of it but no mention her name until fran garrett michelle's mother said somebody in the recognize that my daughter has been killed so she took michelle's cough and to the city hom to mend attention to the fact that her daughter lost 7 her life not because she did anything wrong her. family. call when someone call for a mental health pick up order for her daughter who is suffering from schizophrenia and the police decided that they were going to break into her home when she didn't want to come out and within seconds of the encounter the officer had shot at
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through the heart that's what we're looking at black black women are not safe in the street they're not safe in their homes they're not safe in their own bodies and they're not they're not removed morry allies in death because this loss of life falls outside of any of the available frames that people have for thinking about anti-black police violence so that death caught our attention and then we started to say well why aren't these names being mentioned in the rallies and in the marches that we go to so we went to march as with a poster with all of the names of black women we could find and started saying say her name and that was the beginning of the hashtag and the demand to this day it's still a challenge people don't know this. if you don't know the story you can either have the right or and so they're necessary to protect our lives and i don't really exist yet i notice anything that. even say her name has been collapse it and people here
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say his name and it's slightly along the lender stand that this was created because you are cannot name black women that have been killed black trans women that i think you know you know black queer women that have been killed because everything is there so now it's like say his name what his name has been said over and over and over to the point you don't have any worries right now 3 weeks ago it woman an interesting list later died in police custody and people are not i talk about this every day because i just don't understand why nobody is saying talking about this or are mentioning them she's not getting the colorful cartoons she's not getting the means for instagram but yet and this is not to disparage the black men but they found a case from last year a young boy eliza who is now being a memorial eyes and i'm like priscilla just died 3 weeks ago why didn't she get the flower that's why did briana taylor get a star studded televised memorial service. they don't know what he articulated it
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wasn't even if i mean let me just bring in joe johns joe johns he's a transmetal she's an actress an activist she spoke to us a little bit earlier because rudy talking about a marginalized group of black women and then we go into the trans community and then he's even can you be even more marginalized is what john jones tells us that have. trans women and especially black turns them into the inner alarming amount of issues in society that financially they believe protection with in our care system and protection in general and industries is ideal that it can't people who are not human i. feel angry when trans people or not you realize people are less likely to jump in with an altercation for or left lane for more when you harm a transfer thing and in general so i think we need to move into a police where we are getting to know trans people we're hiring trans people we are funding trans people but we're really getting to you were transferred people are
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seen as equals. and then just picking up the conversations that we're having a new chief about the teaching plus going to ainus an arse. people being left out of this conversation and. that maybe that we need to have campaigns for that group of the community as well so how do you even begin to start with and it is such ality. well you know i don't want to be in there that when tunku have about black women being killed by the police we have and always do include trans women. when we consider gentlemen to be women. and core in our group is more the sister kayleigh more one of the principal stories that make up say her name kayla moore was killed
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when her roommate called the police because she was having a mental health crisis when the police arrived they ran a warrant check on kayla. and her birth name found a warrant for a man who was you know more than you know 1015 years old and. and she was tried to arrest her she was aware that there was no warrant for her and because they were threatened by her they killed her in much the same way eric garner or george floyd was killed her last words were i can't breathe now let's just think about it if i can't agree 7 is is meant to be this symbolism of the fact that black people can't exist without police literally on our throats on our now and then surely kayla more story should be part of that 'd natasha khanna whose last words were you promise not only know me well not one knows about that story and
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it's on this is a for those who say well the reason we don't talk about black women is it's not on video actually there are killings there are men are on video the issue is that there is no space in the imaginary about what inside black police violence looks like so saying the name of kayla moore tunisia anderson maya hall of india cater the point of this is to understand that the experience in the vulnerability means that we're not safe in our own body. than our own bodies a movement that does not talk about our bodies is not a movement that's lifting us up to. illuminate it i think with. an online so it's a free for instance as a lot of this panel why activism has to be intersectional she sent this is why it has to be intersectional also getting some pushback to your conversation i know you're used to this let me bring up 3 instances that being part of the conversation
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hayes says i feel like lots of black women and women in general are starting these ways of bashing black men and creating these hate. towards fees plot man i know you . know we are going to tell. me why don't you want to reveal. what an honor it's. going to get one by one he's not i mean you're always ok well. we're also and intentional intent is to divert away from the issue at hand we're specifically talking about black women who are murdered and killed by police who have not been amplified that the system is that the media and who are usually the megaphones of the 1st point of contact for the police that they are also part and parcel in erasing all stories of black women so when you focus on that there usually is someone who's going to come in and say well what about black
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on black crime and what about this what about that we're specifically addressing the issue of black women so when you have others who inject and i want to solve this this intentional did you do all that is intended to divert in this part of the problem we're dealing with to this day and that is the you're a share that's part of that policing and what is the yes so yeah i guess the i get that my name has feminist in it and then i read is a. given that i get a fresh out of that if i wanted to be hateful if i wanted to even go there because i don't i'm one of the i organized one of the biggest. like multinational multi-state demonstrations against police brutality in history so if i didn't love black men or care about black boys i would have done what i want to remind people that the greatest threat to the health and safety of black women and children are black men if i was on a table i would focus on that so i'm not doing that what i'm what we point out is
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that we have been erased but when it comes to pointing these things out like i said earlier it's an embarrassment it is an indictment it feels like and it feels like why are you talking about this and making us look bad because we can't do anything about it and so it gets translated as oh you don't care about black men you don't care. black boy you're you know you're just you're just want to focus on women well somebody has to focus on the women because i can as a miriam carey was shot in her car with her baby in the back of her me soccer game and i remember when kareem games was killed that every always who was also me there were blaming her for it they were bleeding or remember or member when ronnie should ride knocked on the door to get help and the white man children people said why did she go to this party why was she hi like this is these are the responses when trayvon martin was killed were killed a boy was actually shot by a police officer trayvon martin was killed by a local neighborhood guy and yet it wasn't ricky a boy that started the movement and she was shot by a cop and totally
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a racist from this thing so when we bring these things out it's embarrassing it's hurtful and it's an indictment and it the censors black men who with it with out our history for civil rights and everything we have held on to this believe that it's black men who are going to lead us and we're going to take a sense of this promised land when really it's been the black women who have been doing all the work behind the scenes to sustain communities and sustain movements while being sexually assaulted violated denied respect and honor underpaid exploited we're finally at a point we're saying no more we are going to employ him by our experience of going to talk about our sisters and if i have to put priscilla it's late at sign of police custody as my screen name so that you see it every time i tweet that's what i'm going to do until you care about her as much as you care about race are books and george floyd. killing is not like really i unjust going to remind people that several years ago it was about 5 years ago that you came onto the scene when
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we were talking about say one was the same month the sonship armed was pulled out of her and then her child jake demands what has changed in the c.s. . well you know i think you can see from this. some of this conversation that the main thing that changed i think is more people are saying our name more black women in particular are exasperated you know with this trickle down idea around racial justice now the reality is 'd it's them and he says just said this is an old idea that we need to just throw our lot behind a patriarchal 5 frame of anti-racism and if we don't do that if we insist on putting black women side by side with our sons mothers and brothers that somehow we're being the ones that are being divisive not the frame that starts with dividing us and telling us that we're on the margins that is going to lead and if
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you could. have the irony of the month that conversation on the left you know his let's just say that i just remembered this kills us kid you know his own much that you know thank you so much it is not enough time and i think you're listening never . like it was soon so at the beginning of this let me just dip into one more time. 376 is the shock that so many people on our upset by what you did a talking about police that you are right i leave it there thanks for watching it with me thanks ladies.
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